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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Joel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Overheating is always the worst and most difficult for us long distance tech support.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is a comprehensive tech tip for overheating on TE/AE web site.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is a relationship for the position of the fan in a shroud – closer to the radiator can stall the air flow and actually push hot air back into the radiator. I believe the fan blades should be about 3/4s out from the rear edge of the shroud.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>You might want to take the fan and shroud off to see if the pusher fans alone controls the temp better.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you have the original 4 blade fan, I think I would give that a try to see what happens.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Overheating<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34170"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34171"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34172"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Well after 8 years and a gazillion dollars, I am officially completely discouraged. I have the hardtop yet to put together, fit the new Robbins top which after stretching in the sun, still is about 2 inches from being even close to fit and wheel alignment. Toneau cover and top boot covers look good though.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34175"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34176"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I have had my radiator, not an original tiger radiator, re-cored, rebuilt 289 engine – done by machine shop with .30 pistons, hipo heads, arp bolts, new values, oil pump, gaskets etc with new SS water pump, nothing left untouched.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34177"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34178"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Generator rebuilt, voltage regulator replaced multiple times, rebuilt AMP gauge – this worked for a few months. Replaced generator with alternator, last week, 100 amp American made – older CAT 1 piece bracket and a Jaeger volt gauge – looking good on this front.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34180"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34181"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Overheating defined as greater than 210 at idle or running. No expansion tank. Temporary manual temperature gauge installed until sort things out, if ever – did not feel could trust the electric sending unit or rebuilt gauge at this point. Things tried:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ol start=1 type=1 id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34183"><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34184"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>New copper core, I believe, not aluminum – totally taken advantage of by this individual here, so no confidence in job performed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34185"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>16 pound radiator cap – have used the SS 7 pound one as well <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34186"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>160 degree thermostat and 180 as well – 160 currently installed<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34187"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>14” 6 blade plastic fan<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34188"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Fan spacer made to move fan with 1” of radiator fins.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34189"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Custom made fan shroud<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34190"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Spacer in upper radiator hose to slow down flow – have put this in and out multiple times, no real difference – currently installed<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34191"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>2 – 10” pusher electric fans with relay and in line 30 amp fuse, last thing I did, no help.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34192"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34193"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Oh and the SS heater control valve lasted 80 miles. Moss Motors valve lasted about a week, the second Moss one leaking after about 10 minutes from cold start up. All 3 diaphragms split and blew coolant all over. Received credit and currently have plugged both hoses going in and out of heater valve so I could leave valve in place and look correct till overheating and better parts solution presents itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34197"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34198"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Here how things went from cold start up yesterday – about 72 degrees outside.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34199"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Starts on the first turn of the key.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34200"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Let idle until electric choke brings to 950 rpm.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34201"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Off we go, about 4 miles of running at 190.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34202"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Stop at stop light – turn on electric fans, temp up to 200 really quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34203"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Running at 60 mph for another 10 miles at 200 degrees<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34204"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Pull into gas station that is suppose to have ethenal free gas for new weed eater – not there 30 seconds – temp up to 210 with electric fans on.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34205"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Temp stays at 210 the next 12 miles or so – tried fans on and then off – no difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34206"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Next stop light, about 1.5 minutes, temp goes to 220, fans on<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34207"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Stays at 220 until I can get home.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34208"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Blowing coolant, slight coming into house – not sure for how long.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34209"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Fans on, hood up – heat soak up to 230 before coming back down.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34210"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34211"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>My last observations: temp goes up amazingly fast when stopped at idle and does not come down with electric fans running or driving. At one point, the temp used to drop when driving back to 195/200, not sure when this stopped.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34214"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34215"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I have had 3 different mechanics look at this with me to this point, no more recommendations from them unless try an aluminum radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34216"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34217"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I am completely stumped at this point and beyond disappointment and discouraged.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34218"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>So, team Tiger owners – ideas, recommendations or just put the car cover on it and leave it for the next person?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34219"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34220"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> Joel Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34221"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34222"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34223"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34224"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34226"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1524138695718_34050"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>