<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Ron,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">That is good but, might be better with some</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">load. Maybe leave the wire on the solenoid.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Gary</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">I just checked the wire diagram again<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Check the WR, white/ red wire from switch to solenoid<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Take the WR wire off the solenoid – attach voltmeter to it and turn ign switch several times while watching the volt meter<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers [<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>R Flynn via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Solenoid problem?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have replied - struggling with the intermittent nature of the problem, nonetheless some updates below.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Checks in addition to those below:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Solenoid mount has been checked & cleaned & tightened<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Voltage drop between battery post and S post when cranking is 0.45V; battery voltage otherwise<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Resistance between S post and solenoid ground is 3.7 ohms<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Jumper between battery and S posts cranks engine (but 90% of the time so does turning the key, so not sure how much that indicates)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Cleaned all connections on ignition switch, barrel is a little sloppy in turning<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Resistance along brown wire is 0.3 ohms, no indication of flaky connection when flexing wire harness & connections<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Battery appears to be of a Nov 1994 vintage as best I can tell (which doesn't exactly much inspire confidence)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Time for a new battery at the very least methinks, then my suspicion is focusing on the ignition vs. the solenoid at this point.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:27 R Flynn <<a href="mailto:flynnr2@gmail.com">flynnr2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I believe I have a solenoid problem but thought it worth checking with the collective wisdom here:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Symptoms: Tiger turns over immediately most times, but regularly when turning to the start position *nothing* happens (no clicks, no noise, nothing). This tends to persist for a few tries it then it will all start working again. Happens occasionally on cold start, might happen more frequently when engine is hot but pattern not entirely clear.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">What has been checked so far:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Battery has 12.6V, clean terminal connections & ground, and battery volatage is making it to the solenoid<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Cleaned terminals & connections on starter<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Solenoid terminals & connections cleaned<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Solenoid voltage drop between battery & starter posts is in 0.12V-0.15V range (was north of 0.3V before cleaning terminals)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My conclusion is that the solenoid is flaky, but if I am missing anything please shout.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Cheers in advance<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br><span>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a></span><br><span>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>