<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><div></div><div dir="ltr">I use my GPS as it shows my actual speed- more so than for where I am going- as out of my mind is a short trip! </div><div class="signature"><div>Tony Lang (TtT)<var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Jerry Mo Christopherson' <JCMC2006@suddenlink.net>; tigers@Autox.Team.Net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 2, 2016 4:40 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] speedo nylon gear<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2189003358"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv2189003358WordSection1"><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Jerry</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> The 16T gear works very well with today’s radial tires which are not as tall as the original bias ply tire.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Yes you can work back from the tires, gears combo you have to see what is needed.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Your tire circumference – ft in a mile – tire revs / mile – rear axle gears – engine revs/ mile</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Engine revs/ mile – trans gear to speedo cable gear – revs/ mile at speedo.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Ron Fraser</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> Jerry Mo Christopherson [mailto:JCMC2006@suddenlink.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2016 5:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ron Fraser' <rfraser@bluefrog.com><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] speedo nylon gear</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Ya, I was just thinking one could work it backwards, i.e. I have this wheel/tire combo and this rear end ratio so what combination of “gears” would I need to get close to something that was as “accurate” as the original. To me the speedometer is just something relative anyway. If we are all having to live with a 16 tooth gear any way we just accept that it’s wrong.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Jerry</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;'> Ron Fraser [<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2016 3:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jerry Mo Christopherson'; <a href="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com">CoolVT@aol.com</a>; <a href="mailto:Rollright@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Rollright@aol.com">Rollright@aol.com</a>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] speedo nylon gear</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Jerry</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>The different gears and ratios are designed to make the tire sizes of the day work fairly accurately with the speedometer.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Original 15T to 6T and a 980 revs/ mile speedo needs a tire with a circumference around 75”</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Has anyone ever measured the circumference of an Original Tiger Tire to verify this calculation?</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>A 16T to 6T with 980 speedo needs a tire C around 70.5”</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>These are just a mechanical calculation from the speedo to the tire circumference with all the original gear ratios.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Sunbeam had other speedos available – 1000 and 1020 revs/ mile and different axle ratios; any of these will change the accuracy of the speedo and thus require a different cable gear.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>It’s probably easier to convert to a GPS speedometer then play with all these gear ratios if you’re looking for a totally accurate speedo.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Ron Fraser</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> Jerry Mo Christopherson [<a href="mailto:JCMC2006@suddenlink.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:JCMC2006@suddenlink.net">mailto:JCMC2006@suddenlink.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2016 1:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com">CoolVT@aol.com</a>; <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>; <a href="mailto:Rollright@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Rollright@aol.com">Rollright@aol.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] speedo nylon gear</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>This video is very informative, which leads me to this question. Not knowing the number of the drive gear on the Tiger trans, is it possible to get a different drive gear to better match the original ratio using the only driven gear that is now available (i.e. 16t)?? Just wondering.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Jerry Christopherson</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>9473187</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>TAC insp. #58</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", sans-serif;'> Tigers [<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>CoolVT--- via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 01, 2016 2:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>; <a href="mailto:Rollright@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Rollright@aol.com">Rollright@aol.com</a>; <a href="mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] speedo nylon gear</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>This tutorial on speedo gears is taken from a Mustang site (sorry I can't give the proper credit). It's for Mustangs, but much is the same on a Tiger.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Mark L</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQyhhPNyKc&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQyhhPNyKc&feature=youtu.be</a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>In a message dated 12/1/2016 2:14:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</span></div></div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>Jim</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'> The original Mk I speedometer cable gear is C3OA-17271-A 15 teeth</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>Mark on the gear is 15R – pictures are an original 15R gear – very worn.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>16R is what is available now</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>The different colors are for different teeth count; makes them easy to ID.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>Took me years at work to convince R&D design teams to change the color of gears when different gear sets were being evaluated. I hated getting 5 bags of black gears that I then had to count the teeth.</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>Ron Fraser</span></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;'> Tigers [<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rollright--- via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] speedo nylon gear</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Hello,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>How many teeth does the Tiger speedo gear have and what do the colors mean? </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Mustangs Unltd. have so many.........</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I recall some years back the correct one for a Tiger went out of print. Perhaps they are in print again? </span></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Jim Armstrong<br>382002083<br>Mk 1A<br>code 86<br>TAC # 0763</span></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv2189003358MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com</a></span><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com</a><br><br><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>