<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>And they have 3 terminals, 12v, gauges, AND ground (the mount lug).</div><div>If no ground (reg not screwed to </div><div>clean grounded metal, the gauges should read high but still function, </div><div>since the are running on 12v instead</div><div>of 10v.</div><div>Gary<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 18, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22259"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22258">The MGB voltage stabilizer is the same one the tiger uses.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22239"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22237"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22236">Joel Martin</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21925"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21984" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21983"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21982"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21981"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21980"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21979"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:23 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Tigers Digest, Vol 8, Issue 208<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21985"><br>----- Forwarded Message -----<br><br>Send Tigers mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22281">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21986">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net" href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21987">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:tigers-owner@autox.team.net" href="mailto:tigers-owner@autox.team.net" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21988">tigers-owner@autox.team.net</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."<br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Dash Pieces (<a ymailto="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com" href="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22177">CoolVT@aol.com</a>)<br> 2. Re: Dash Pieces (Larry Mayfield)<br> 3. Re: Dash Pieces (Andy Walker)<br><div id="yiv2214856253">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22178"><strong>Mayf,</strong></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22180"><strong id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22179">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the
voltage stabilizer. It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and
is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just
to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off be sure to
label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be
faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the
problem.</strong></div>
<div><strong>Mark L</strong></div>
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<div>In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</div>
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<div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to
my car. The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use
on the wood dash. Is there a source for such? I have the switches
but sadly they do not come with them. </div>
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<div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22016">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments:
mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of
the problems and I have been attacking that as best I can. Also there
does not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and
the panel switch as well. I replaced the fuse block and that did help.
More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied
dielectric grease as well. The wipers work, the horn honks the heater
motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also
purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green
indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals
and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3
under dash. So I am going to keep after it. Was there an wiring
change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not
look like the schematic. If I look at the back side of the fuel gage and
temp gage what wire goes where?</div>
<div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal">Some remote help needed here… at least some advice or
comment.</div>
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<div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal">mayf </div>
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Fastest Sunbeam, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (not
top) speed</span></div>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv2214856253WordSection1"><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows the dash instrument lights coming from the panel light switch, which gets its power from the main light switch. The only thing my schematic shows coming from the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level resistance and to the temp sensor resistor. Nothing going to lights at all. But the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do anything. </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">As to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage on the red with white stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light works. Nothing. </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I suspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=using a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =stabilizer to ground. Yeah, I’ll give that a try. </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Sure will be great to get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my list. Part of my [problem stems from a long latency between when it was apart and now. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash that when I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the same place so that when I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went back in the same location and terminal. </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Many thanks for the suggestions, new avenues to test!</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">mayf </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" name="_MailEndCompose" href=""><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></a></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;"> <a href="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com">CoolVT@aol.com</a> [<a href="mailto:CoolVT@aol.com">mailto:CoolVT@aol.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com">drmayf@mayfco.com</a>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Mayf,</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage stabilizer. It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off be sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Mark L</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</span></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"><mime-attachment.jpg></span></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car. The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash. Is there a source for such? I have the switches but sadly they do not come with them. </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problems and I have been attacking that as best I can. Also there does not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel switch as well. I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease as well. The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash. So I am going to keep after it. Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic. If I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes where?</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">Some remote help needed here… at least some advice or comment.</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">mayf </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;">_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (not top) speed</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com</a><br><br></span><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv2214856253"><style><!--
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It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off be sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Mark L</span></strong><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</span></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"><mime-attachment.jpg></span></div><div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car. The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash. Is there a source for such? I have the switches but sadly they do not come with them. </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problems and I have been attacking that as best I can. Also there does not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel switch as well. I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease as well. The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash. So I am going to keep after it. Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic. If I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes where?</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">Some remote help needed here… at least some advice or comment.</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;">mayf </span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:black;">_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (not top) speed</span></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div class="yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com</a><br><br></span><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tigers mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net" href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><mime-attachment.jpg></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><mime-attachment.jpg></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br><span>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a></span><br><span>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>