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<DIV>Cullen,</DIV>
<DIV>I think you have to wonder about the true condition if he thinks a Mark II
is worth $240,000 and he is only asking $80,000. That alone might be an
indicator. In the long run maybe those “less than 100k” Mark II “drivers”
are a better deal.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tigers@autox.team.net
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">Cullen McCann via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 16, 2016 8:41 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=randya@pacbell.net
href="mailto:randya@pacbell.net">Randall Antosiak</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tigers@autox.team.net
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers Den</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Mk2 values</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you all who contributed to my question about MKII values. I have used
the Hagerty Valuation tool many times, but I couple that knowledge with personal
experiences. </DIV>
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<DIV>I am aware of a Tiger Mk II "for sale" that I'm trying negotiate the
possible sale of. Admittedly I was hoping to do so without opening up the
floodgates of other competition, hence my lack of detail.</DIV>
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<DIV>He's asking 80 grand for a non driving car, with many critical MKII pieces
that have not yet been confirmed. He may have them but I haven't seen them. The
car does start, but does not drive. It also is packed in a garage with stuff all
around it, obstructing some of its inspection, but its very clearly a MKII. It
is recorded in TBON. No visible rust but may have some body filler, amount
unknown. Communication is poor with the seller and his expectations are
unreasonable. He quotes a 240K sale on a MKII and is confident his car is worth
70-80 grand. I didn't think it is. I know of a couple driver quality MKII's that
recently sold for less than 100k. Frustrating situation. He has no inspiration
to build the car, only to get rich off of it. If the deal was right, I could
possibly buy the car but I have no desire to overpay. I think the car is maybe
"worth" 45 or 50 but he would just laugh. I have offered him 30 without
confirmation of the grill, top of grill trim and wheel arches, and he didn't
even respond to my offer.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you so much for understanding and thank you for helping with
discussion on values. Just trying to make sure I am representing my case
realistically to the potential seller. My patience for negotiation is running
out. I've been lightly pursuing the car since early 2013. </DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you all!</DIV>
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<DIV>Cullen</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Randall Antosiak <SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN>Hi Cullen - </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>As a starting point to determine the value of your car, you can go
to the Hagerty web site and look it up. This site can give you a ball
park number:</SPAN></DIV>
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href="https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1967-Sunbeam-Tiger-Mk_II"
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<DIV dir=ltr>Cars in #4 condition are daily drivers, and Hagerty gives the Mk
2 a value of $67,500 in this condition. </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Since you wrote your car is a basketcase and doesn't drive, it
will be worth less. However, as long as you have all the rare parts
(wheel arch trim, rocker trim, grill, eyebrow, tach), then I would guess a
rock bottom value around $55k -60k.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>- Randy</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Cullen McCann via Tigers
<<A href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>tigers@autox.team.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Tigers Den <<A
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>tigers@autox.team.net</A>> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:30
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Tigers] Mk2
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<DIV dir=ltr>Dear friends. I would like the list opinion on Mark 2 Tiger
values these days. We have all seen several come and go at auction in restored
condition. I realize this question is so subjective it's nearly impossible to
answer. </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>At least give me a Range. Assuming the following conditions are
true:</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Authentic mk2 tiger. <BR>No visible rust or collision damage.
<BR>Matching engine, trans and rear end<BR>Complete car with egg crate grill
and wheel arch trim<BR>Hardtop included. <BR>Runs but does not drive.
<BR>Complete but needs total restoration. Basketcase. <BR>Been in same family
for 30 years. </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>What's the least a person would expect to pay?<BR>What the
most?<BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Thanks friends!!</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Cullen<BR>LROFE</DIV></DIV>
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