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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Tod<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Very interesting that Norm has changed his position.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>I have received no engine information to confirm the existence of 289 engine blocks in the Mk 1A production build.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Yes it is very possible that Rootes did this but I would like to see the evidence before I change my position.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Tod Brown [mailto:todbrown@roadrunner.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; tigers@Autox.Team.Net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Ron:<br><br>Interesting. I had a conversation with Norm just recently and he said just the opposite, that there were a few cars that were built by Jensen at the end of the MkIA run with all of the changes that were incorporated on the MkII's just to make sure it would all go together. Those cars carried the MkIA badging. I made a mistake in my description in my previous email about the specific changes. I referred to a Watts linkage rear setup. That was incorrect. I meant to say Panhard rod, as that was the change incorporated into the MkII's, as you know.<br><br>I suggested to Norm that it would be a good idea for him to publish what he knows about the MkII changeover process, but have not heard anything back from him. As you may know, as the editor of Rootes Review, I ran an ad for the MkII prototype, B382100002 LRXFE in the June issue past. When I got the info about the car and the request to run the ad, I was somewhat skeptical since a lot of the MkII trim was missing, so I contacted Norm. It was the result of our resultant conversation that he mentioned the MkIA's with the 289s. I was surprised when he mentioned them because, like you, I had always believed it to be a myth. However, the oracle has spoken. If Norm is reading this, I would urge him to weigh in to settle this.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Tod<br><br>On 7/16/2016 8:39 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Tod</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> I don’t believe any Mk 1A originally came with a 289 engine. I see no evidence of anything but the B19KC 260 engine group for the last production Mk 1A. Norm Miller calls the 289 engine in Mk 1As a myth. It would be nice to have real evidence to confirm either position.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>My <b>Original Tiger Engine Study</b> does not contain specific information for the engines in the last dozen or so Mk 1As produced. Owners lets change that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>I will gladly accept and examine engine information for any original Tiger engine. I have a worksheet that is easy to fill out – just ask for one.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Ron Fraser</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Tigers [<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tod Brown via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 15, 2016 7:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Actually, there were two MkII's assembled by Rootes before production was turned <br>over to Jensen. They carry serial numbers B382100001 and B382100002 but no JAL<br>numbers. The Jensen run began with B382100100 and ended with ...633. See the<br>note in the SS Catalog:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>MARK II PRODUCTION NUMBERS VARY. CARS WITH</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>SERIAL # B382100001 </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>AND #B382100002 EXIST WITH NO JAL #’S (JENSEN ALPINE LTD. BODY #) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>WHICH INDICATES THE CARS WERE COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED BY ROOTES, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>NEVER GOING TO THE JENSEN PLANT AND MUST HAVE BEEN A PRE-</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>PRODUCTION PILOT CARS. THE NEXT MK II IS B382100</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>100 WHICH CARRIES </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>A JAL NUMBER, THE FIRST OF THE MK II SERIES.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>There were also six (IIRC) MkIA's fitted with the MkII mechanicals (289 block, wide-<br>ratio trans, modified Watts linkage, etc.) but were badged as MkIA's at the end of<br>the MkIA run at Jensen. <br><br>Tod Brown<br>B382002384LRXFE<br>TAC 864 </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>