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<div>Years ago, when I got a mini starter for my Tiger, I found the exact same thing – the parts place had a pair of starters on the shelf where one was marked as being for a manual and the other for an automatic transmission. It was the A/T part that had the
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Tigers List <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:53 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>'Tony Lang' <<a href="mailto:achd73@yahoo.com">achd73@yahoo.com</a>>, Tigers List <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Tigers] Flywheel<br>
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<div><span class="468063920-02122015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Tony
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Exactly. When I did this work on my Tiger several decades ago I ran the starter drive gear around my new flywheel ring gear by hand and it stop in less than 1 revelation of the drive gear. I got a new starter drive gear and it work perfectly.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="468063920-02122015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">It is imperative that anyone working on these parts to be aware of the problems and check everything for fit and function or you will be redoing your work over and over again.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="468063920-02122015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Most of us don't understand the difference between the 160 and 157 tooth ring gears. Even worse is that fact that you generally have to order the A/T starter to work on the Tiger
engine.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="468063920-02122015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">My goal is to sort this out some.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="468063920-02122015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ron Fraser</font></span></div>
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<b>From:</b> Tony Lang [<a href="mailto:achd73@yahoo.com">mailto:achd73@yahoo.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2015 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>; <a href="mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Flywheel<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449065922946_27049"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449065922946_27070">Ron- it is imperative you match the ring gear to correct starter bendix. A parts store without an older employee that is aware of the 157 and 160 tooth flywheel ring gear
will sell you whatever starter that will bolt up. Unfortunately it is easy to install a new flywheel but pulling the engine isn't as easy as changing a ring gear. May well be to late for your ring gear but it is easy to change out the bendix so "others" can
make sure they have a bendix that matches their ring gear.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 2:03 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">I found a comment which makes sense to me.</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">Flywheel ring gear was changed from 160 to 157 teeth to improve starter gear engagement.</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">Ring gear OD = 13.258" circumference = 41.65"</span></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">41.65"/ 160 = .26"</span></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">41.65" / 157 = .2653"</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">Maybe this is why my 160 tooth original ring gear was all chewed up.</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">I have not found a date when Ford made this change to 157 teeth.</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv5365282710078055119-02122015">Ron Fraser</span></font></div>
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