<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4068"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4144" dir="ltr">FWIW - I recently served as a test rider for a new motorcycle product which allows running greatly reduced tire pressures without pinch-flatting. It worked beautifully. But near the end of the long-term test I experienced a failure. The flat resulted from abrasion between the inner tube and tire - the front inner tube had literally worn through in one location and showed significant abrasion in several other spots. The tube in the rear wheel showed significant abrasion as well but had not worn completely through. The only application to Tigers is to confirm that tube abrasion caused by tire flex and potentially elevated temperatures is a real phenomenon.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4266" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4328" dir="ltr">Terry Packer <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4329" dir="ltr">9470018<br> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4034" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4033" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4032" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4067" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4669" size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> wseay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>; tigers@autox.team.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 6, 2015 11:22 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4041" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5668736496"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4047" dir="ltr">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4044"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4043" size="4">Back in the day when radial tires were fairly new, I ran
radials on my Tiger. I also used a tube. The tube was a heavy-duty
(thicker) one that was made for radials. I was told that the heavy-duty
tube was needed because the sidewalls of a radial will flex and scuff the
tube. Don’t know if anyone makes a heavy-duty tube today or
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wseay@embarqmail.com<br clear="none">______________________________<br clear="none">"I think not therefore
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4804" style=""><b>From:</b> <a title-off="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="tigers@autox.team.net" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">Tom Witt via Tigers</a> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4806"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2015 1:45 PM</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4807"><b>To:</b> <a title-off="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="tigers@autox.team.net" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4808"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels</div></div></div></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4810">A while back I recall looking into using a tube in a modern tire and the
resounding answer was NO. Apparently the interior tire surfaces are coarse and
abraid the tube. Which then leaves the question who would produce a modern type
tire and have the interior constructed to suit a very small minority of
drivers? Anyway, this is just a “Safety First” FYI. I’m not saying
people haven’t used tubes and had no issues. I’m just restating what I
read.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4817" style=""><b>From:</b> <a title-off="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="tigers@autox.team.net" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">Jay Laifman via Tigers</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:28 AM</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4819"><b>To:</b> <a title-off="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="gammaman@mokancomm.net" ymailto="mailto:gammaman@mokancomm.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:gammaman@mokancomm.net">Richard Bruner</a> </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4820"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels</div></div></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446839813240_4822" dir="ltr">That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand it.
I think there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties
catalog. The wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for the tire
bead to seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels. That was one
of the selling points of Rick's LAT wheels - he added a deeper groove. So
it sounds like people may put tubes in for that reason.</div>
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<div class="yiv5668736496gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Richard Bruner via Tigers
<span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv5668736496gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;">Are
the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless? I took the old tires off of
mine, and they all had tubes in them. I also need to refinish the
wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined surfaces
with too harsh of an abrasive. I was thinking soda blasting might be the
best choice? Any suggestions?<span class="yiv5668736496HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Richard</font></span><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Donate:
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