<html><head></head><body lang="en-US" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Ron ;</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As usual you are a veritable library of facts and dimensions of almost everything Tiger. Thanks for being so diligent. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">Do you know if the dipstick/tube sets are the same for 289 blocks? Would the 289 have a different timing cover that would account for the shorter stick?</span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">My car came to me with a 289, and the dipstick/tube combination are considerably different from the dimensions you have for the 260. I have felt for a long time that my engine has a non-standard stick.</span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">My tube is only 10" long, and the dipstick is correspondingly shorter at 19 1/4". But taking the corresponding dimensions from the tube stop/seating ring, the "full" mark is out on my stick by roughly 1/2" ( the oil level is 1/2" more oil in my crank case.)</span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">Not enough for me to worry about, but it would be nice to know if the 289 specs that level.</span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">Thanks Ron, </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">Dave</span></div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.</div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>Ron Fraser via Tigers</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 5, 2015 12:10 PM</div><div><b>To: </b>'Dave Barakat'</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>rfraser@bluefrog.com</div><div><b>Cc: </b>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style="">
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<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="875321714-05102015">Dave
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<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="875321714-05102015"> It looks like I need to investigate
the dip stick part further.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="875321714-05102015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="875321714-05102015">The
dip stick and dip stick tube should be a matched pair.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="875321714-05102015"></span></font> </div>
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<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Parts
List 6601334</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">1224808 Oil Level indicator NOTE
- this is a Rootes part # only</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">6100734 Oil Level indicator NOTE
- this is a Rootes part # for a Ford part</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">6100489
C2OZ-6754-A Tube - Oil level
indicator</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ford Master Parts Catalog - listed for the 260
engine</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">C3OZ-6750-B 22.48" shield to
full, 23.32" shield to Add, 24.44" shield to tip</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">C2OZ-6754-A
Tube</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">This appears to be the correct dip stick and
tube combination for the Tiger.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Maybe 1224808 is indicated because Rootes had to
modify the dip stick. The long handle had to be bent to clear the
hood.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">I'm sure this prompted Rootes to have Ford
correct this issue with a new part - possibly the C4JZ-6750-A part - the "J" in
this part # indicates a Ford Industrial Group supplied
part.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">The later Tiger dip stick has the handle loop
tighter to the shield with only a slight bend.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">The C3OZ-B and C2OZ-A parts are being reproduced
by Scott Drake.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><span class="875321714-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ron
Fraser</font></span></span></div></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" lang="en-us" class="OutlookMessageHeader" align="left"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Dave Barakat
[mailto:dave.barakat@icloud.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2015
2:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> rfraser@bluefrog.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Andy Walker;
tigers@Autox.Team.Net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity
w/non-stock filter<br><br></font></div>Ron…..thanks…this is so helpful and I
will measure the stick and tube against David’s spec. The tube and stick were
obtained from SS as “dipstick for generator cars” (TM50/TM54), but no
other part number given.
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<div>On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>
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<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Dave</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"> <font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">It is very possible you do not have the original dip
stick. I'm not sure I have the original in my engine
either.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Parts List 6601334</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">1224808 Oil Level indicator
NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">6100734 Oil Level indicator
NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a Ford part</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">There is no indication about when this part change
occurred.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Here is an email from David Franchi - 8/12/2004 with some
measurements.</font></span></div>
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<div>The original dip stick & tube measurements are:</div>
<div>Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell"
cover/dust guard. </div>
<div>Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.</div>
<div>--</div>
<div>Tube - 15 15/16" overall. 14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating
ring" (were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of the tube. 7
5/16" from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting wing".</div>
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<div>With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick protrudes 9
1/2" out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the stick to the
bottom of the tube "stop/seating ring") </div>
<div>David Franchi</div>
<div><span class="822013001-05102015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ron Fraser</font></span></div></span></span></div>
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