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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:37:59 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] AustinHealer on BAT
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Is that anyone here?

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Yes we are...
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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Thu Aug 21 15:21:53 2025
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:21:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High
Message-ID: <000001dc12e1$9f23d720$dd6b8560$@comcast.net>

 

Hey all -

 

It's been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.  

 

My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop
installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant
drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.
Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure
I wasn't actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled
locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the
water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading
accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect
both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check
the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending
unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?  

 

Thanks and I hope all is well out there!

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 16:38:57 2025
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 22:38:57 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Don's suggestions :  Temp Gauge Reading High
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References: <000001dc12e1$9f23d720$dd6b8560$@comcast.net>
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I suggest you check to see if your engine is well-grounded to the ?ground? side of your battery ,and to your gauge.
Perhaps the ground continuity was altered during the engine work.
Also, on my Griffith Series 200 I encountered an odd problem with my fuel gauge not reading correctly.
Peter Bayer (Nisonger Instruments) helped solve it::: I had to assure that I had a solid ground to the case of the fuel gasuge itself.

S|UMMARY: Check all of your ground paths.
Hope this helps.
Don Antilla

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 5:48?PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High

Hey all ?

It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.

My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?

Thanks and I hope all is well out there!

Graham Harlowe
B382001466
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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 17:22:57 2025
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High
In-Reply-To: <000001dc12e1$9f23d720$dd6b8560$@comcast.net>
References: <000001dc12e1$9f23d720$dd6b8560$@comcast.net>
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A high reading indicates there is a higher current flowing through
the gauge,  so a poor connection is unlikely.  Is your tank near empty or
full?  A bad regulator might make less of a difference if the gauge is near
empty.

The voltage regulator gets its ground through it's mounting screw.  It
would not be a first if there's a bit of corrosion under there.  In a quiet
place, turn on the key, don't start it, and you should be able to hear the
stock voltage regulator ticking away..

For some more hints, here's a link to my old article on gauge
troubleshooting.

TigersUnited.com
<http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp>

Both gauges have the same innards, so you can swap leads and see what
happens with the pointer angles.

Stu

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 5:57?PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
>
> Hey all ?
>
>
>
> It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.
>
>
>
> My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a
> shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed,
> coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge
> reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.
> To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various
> water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was
> right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is
> reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can
> affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan
> to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the
> engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thanks and I hope all is well out there!
>
>
>
> Graham Harlowe
>
> B382001466
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
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From cars at wt-inc.com  Thu Aug 21 17:23:34 2025
From: cars at wt-inc.com (Cars)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 23:23:34 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High
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Try bleeding the air out through the temp sender. Sometimes when we use adapters etc it raises the sender enough that it is in an air pocket. I always bleed the air out through the sender after I have driven the car a little.

Good luck
Lynn

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2025 3:21:53 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High




Hey all ?



It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.



My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?



Thanks and I hope all is well out there!



Graham Harlowe

B382001466
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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Thu Aug 21 17:29:09 2025
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:29:09 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Don's suggestions :  Temp Gauge Reading High
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR1001MB2413034FB642D01CE0A01A40FD32A@MWHPR1001MB2413.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
References: <000001dc12e1$9f23d720$dd6b8560$@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <001501dc12f3$6600e5c0$3202b140$@comcast.net>

 

Thanks Don.   The Ground needs a good Ground.   ? G.

 

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2025 6:39 PM
To: gharlowe at comcast.net; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Don's suggestions : [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High

 

I suggest you check to see if your engine is well-grounded to the ?ground? side of your battery ,and to your gauge. 

Perhaps the ground continuity was altered during the engine work.

Also, on my Griffith Series 200 I encountered an odd problem with my fuel gauge not reading correctly.

Peter Bayer (Nisonger Instruments) helped solve it::: I had to assure that I had a solid ground to the case of the fuel gasuge itself.

 

S|UMMARY: Check all of your ground paths.

Hope this helps.

Don Antilla

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 5:48?PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>  <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High

 

Hey all ?

 

It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.  

 

My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?  

 

Thanks and I hope all is well out there!

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 22 15:36:13 2025
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 21:36:13 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment  Temp Gauge Reading High
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Graham: Please pardon my ignorance, but will you let me know if you have a classic Smiths gauge setup, or a Ford type?
My comment prior about grounding the case assumes you have a Smith?s type system. In that case, you do need to ground your indicator case or- as happened to me- you get flakey readings.
Don

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 7:37?PM
To: gharlowe at comcast.net <gharlowe at comcast.net>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High
A high reading indicates there is a higher current flowing through the gauge,  so a poor connection is unlikely.  Is your tank near empty or full?  A bad regulator might make less of a difference if the gauge is near empty.

The voltage regulator gets its ground through it's mounting screw.  It would not be a first if there's a bit of corrosion under there.  In a quiet place, turn on the key, don't start it, and you should be able to hear the  stock voltage regulator ticking away..

For some more hints, here's a link to my old article on gauge troubleshooting.

TigersUnited.com<http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp>

Both gauges have the same innards, so you can swap leads and see what happens with the pointer angles.

Stu

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 5:57?PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hey all ?

It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.

My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?

Thanks and I hope all is well out there!

Graham Harlowe
B382001466
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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 15:46:45 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 14:46:45 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High
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No, the Smiths type does not require the case be grounded... except for the
night light.

The two terminals are
1.  about 10V (pulsed, 10V average from the regulator)
2. to the sensor which completes the circuit by going to ground.
And it doesn't matter which terminal is which..  Inside is a heating wire,
non-polaized.
Gary W.


On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 2:40?PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Graham: Please pardon my ignorance, but will you let me know if you have a
> classic Smiths gauge setup, or a Ford type?
>
> My comment prior about grounding the case assumes you have a Smith?s type
> system. In that case, you do need to ground your indicator case or- as
> happened to me- you get flakey readings.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Stu <
> sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 7:37?PM
> *To: *gharlowe at comcast.net <gharlowe at comcast.net>
> *Cc: *tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High
>
> A high reading indicates there is a higher current flowing through
> the gauge,  so a poor connection is unlikely.  Is your tank near empty or
> full?  A bad regulator might make less of a difference if the gauge is near
> empty.
>
>
>
> The voltage regulator gets its ground through it's mounting screw.  It
> would not be a first if there's a bit of corrosion under there.  In a quiet
> place, turn on the key, don't start it, and you should be able to hear the
> stock voltage regulator ticking away..
>
>
>
> For some more hints, here's a link to my old article on gauge
> troubleshooting.
>
>
>
> TigersUnited.com
> <http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp>
>
>
>
> Both gauges have the same innards, so you can swap leads and see what
> happens with the pointer angles.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 5:57?PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey all ?
>
>
>
> It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.
>
>
>
> My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a
> shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed,
> coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge
> reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.
> To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various
> water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was
> right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is
> reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can
> affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan
> to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the
> engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thanks and I hope all is well out there!
>
>
>
> Graham Harlowe
>
> B382001466
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 19:26:16 2025
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 21:26:16 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High
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Standard Smiths gauge.   However, I?m running GM one-wire alternator, so not using the stock voltage regulator.   ? G.

 

 

From: Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2025 5:47 PM
To: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>; gharlowe at comcast.net; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High

 

No, the Smiths type does not require the case be grounded... except for the night light.

 

The two terminals are

1.  about 10V (pulsed, 10V average from the regulator)

2. to the sensor which completes the circuit by going to ground.

And it doesn't matter which terminal is which..  Inside is a heating wire, non-polaized.

Gary W.

 

 

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 2:40?PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Graham: Please pardon my ignorance, but will you let me know if you have a classic Smiths gauge setup, or a Ford type?

My comment prior about grounding the case assumes you have a Smith?s type system. In that case, you do need to ground your indicator case or- as happened to me- you get flakey readings.

Don 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com <mailto:sabre2tgr at gmail.com> >
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 7:37?PM
To: gharlowe at comcast.net <mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net>  <gharlowe at comcast.net <mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net> >
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>  <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High

A high reading indicates there is a higher current flowing through the gauge,  so a poor connection is unlikely.  Is your tank near empty or full?  A bad regulator might make less of a difference if the gauge is near empty.

 

The voltage regulator gets its ground through it's mounting screw.  It would not be a first if there's a bit of corrosion under there.  In a quiet place, turn on the key, don't start it, and you should be able to hear the  stock voltage regulator ticking away..

 

For some more hints, here's a link to my old article on gauge troubleshooting.  

 

TigersUnited.com <http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp> 

 

Both gauges have the same innards, so you can swap leads and see what happens with the pointer angles.   

 

Stu

 

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 5:57?PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

Hey all ?

 

It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.  

 

My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?  

 

Thanks and I hope all is well out there!

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 22 20:51:32 2025
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:51:32 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High
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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 20:54:33 2025
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 22:54:33 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High
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No, there's a separate voltage regulator for the fuel and temp gauges,
located just behind the instruments.  It switches the 12V on and off so
that it averages out to be about 10V.  This switching is the ticking I
mentioned.  Try to read this voltage with an old style analog meter and the
pointer will be jumping around.  A digital meter will go nuts.  This
assumes, of course, that a previous owner didn't replace the stock panel
voltage regulator with an electronic one.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 9:26?PM <gharlowe at comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Standard Smiths gauge.   However, I?m running GM one-wire alternator, so
> not using the stock voltage regulator.   ? G.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2025 5:47 PM
> *To:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>; gharlowe at comcast.net;
> tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High
>
>
>
> No, the Smiths type does not require the case be grounded... except for
> the night light.
>
>
>
> The two terminals are
>
> 1.  about 10V (pulsed, 10V average from the regulator)
>
> 2. to the sensor which completes the circuit by going to ground.
>
> And it doesn't matter which terminal is which..  Inside is a heating wire,
> non-polaized.
>
> Gary W.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 2:40?PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Graham: Please pardon my ignorance, but will you let me know if you have a
> classic Smiths gauge setup, or a Ford type?
>
> My comment prior about grounding the case assumes you have a Smith?s type
> system. In that case, you do need to ground your indicator case or- as
> happened to me- you get flakey readings.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Stu <
> sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 7:37?PM
> *To: *gharlowe at comcast.net <gharlowe at comcast.net>
> *Cc: *tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High
>
> A high reading indicates there is a higher current flowing through
> the gauge,  so a poor connection is unlikely.  Is your tank near empty or
> full?  A bad regulator might make less of a difference if the gauge is near
> empty.
>
>
>
> The voltage regulator gets its ground through it's mounting screw.  It
> would not be a first if there's a bit of corrosion under there.  In a quiet
> place, turn on the key, don't start it, and you should be able to hear the
> stock voltage regulator ticking away..
>
>
>
> For some more hints, here's a link to my old article on gauge
> troubleshooting.
>
>
>
> TigersUnited.com
> <http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp>
>
>
>
> Both gauges have the same innards, so you can swap leads and see what
> happens with the pointer angles.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 5:57?PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey all ?
>
>
>
> It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.
>
>
>
> My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a
> shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed,
> coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge
> reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.
> To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various
> water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was
> right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is
> reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can
> affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan
> to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the
> engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thanks and I hope all is well out there!
>
>
>
> Graham Harlowe
>
> B382001466
>
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>
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From cars at wt-inc.com  Fri Aug 22 21:01:32 2025
From: cars at wt-inc.com (Cars)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 03:01:32 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High
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Listen to Theo!!!

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Theo Smit via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2025 8:51:32 PM
To: gharlowe at comcast.net <gharlowe at comcast.net>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High

The regulator Gary refers to is the "instrument stabilizer" that is mounted under the dash, not the regulator associated with the generator (or externally regulated alternator).

If the instrument stabilizer is not properly grounded then the fuel and temperature gauges will read high.

-Theo

On Aug 22, 2025, at 7:34?PM, gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

?



Standard Smiths gauge.   However, I?m running GM one-wire alternator, so not using the stock voltage regulator.   ? G.





From: Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2025 5:47 PM
To: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>; gharlowe at comcast.net; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Don's follow up comment Temp Gauge Reading High



No, the Smiths type does not require the case be grounded... except for the night light.



The two terminals are

1.  about 10V (pulsed, 10V average from the regulator)

2. to the sensor which completes the circuit by going to ground.

And it doesn't matter which terminal is which..  Inside is a heating wire, non-polaized.

Gary W.





On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 2:40?PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Graham: Please pardon my ignorance, but will you let me know if you have a classic Smiths gauge setup, or a Ford type?

My comment prior about grounding the case assumes you have a Smith?s type system. In that case, you do need to ground your indicator case or- as happened to me- you get flakey readings.

Don



From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com<mailto:sabre2tgr at gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 7:37?PM
To: gharlowe at comcast.net<mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net> <gharlowe at comcast.net<mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net>>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High

A high reading indicates there is a higher current flowing through the gauge,  so a poor connection is unlikely.  Is your tank near empty or full?  A bad regulator might make less of a difference if the gauge is near empty.



The voltage regulator gets its ground through it's mounting screw.  It would not be a first if there's a bit of corrosion under there.  In a quiet place, turn on the key, don't start it, and you should be able to hear the  stock voltage regulator ticking away..



For some more hints, here's a link to my old article on gauge troubleshooting.



TigersUnited.com<http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp>



Both gauges have the same innards, so you can swap leads and see what happens with the pointer angles.



Stu



On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 5:57?PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:



Hey all ?



It?s been quiet here so hoping to T-up an easy discussion.



My temp gauge is reading about 25 degrees high.   I noticed it after a shop installed a new clutch, which required the engine to be removed, coolant drained, etc., but nothing that should have affected how the gauge reads.  Running on a cool day, temps were reading around 215-220 degrees.  To ensure I wasn?t actually in danger of overheating, I checked various water-cooled locations with an infrared thermometer.   Highest reading was right at the water neck/thermostat housing (191 deg F).   The fuel gauge is reading accurately.  I understand the under-dash instrument stabilizer can affect both instruments, but in this case, only one gauge is off.  I plan to check the ground to the temp gauge and clean contact points at the engine sending unit and at the gauge.   Any other suggestions?



Thanks and I hope all is well out there!



Graham Harlowe

B382001466

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From rollright at aol.com  Sat Aug 23 09:01:08 2025
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 15:01:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Horn issue
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Message-ID: <2011126739.305597.1755961268755@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,
?In getting my car ready for an inspection sticker, I noticed my horn system works intermittently. When it works, both horns sound .fine.Seems the problem is in the steering column.?I've looked under Electrical (horns) and Steering column (horns) in the Shop Manual and find no clear illustration of the copper disc actuating devices.?Also looked in Sunbeam Survivor and CAT Notes. Nothing.?Can anybody suggest anything that will clearly illustrate the actuating system?? Once again, wen they honk, they?sound perfect.?Best regards to all,..
Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Sat Aug 23 09:51:08 2025
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 09:51:08 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Horn issue
In-Reply-To: <2011126739.305597.1755961268755@mail.yahoo.com>
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There is a cross-section diagram in the workshop manual that illustrates how all the steering hub parts go together but I'm not sure if that will help you. 
Easiest thing to do is to remove the steering column cowl pieces, that should be four slot screws, and then you can visually inspect the horn ring and the slider button. If required you can remove the slider by undoing the turn signal switch mounting from the column. 
It may be that you just need to clean up the contact ring; or else to clean the contact ring in the hub, that is actuated by pressing the horn ring on the steering wheel. 
Disassembly of the hub is not hard but take some pictures so you know how all the various pieces stack up. 

Theo

> On Aug 23, 2025, at 9:10?AM, James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hello,
>  
> In getting my car ready for an inspection sticker, I noticed my horn system works intermittently. When it works, both horns sound .fine.
> Seems the problem is in the steering column.
>  
> I've looked under Electrical (horns) and Steering column (horns) in the Shop Manual and find no clear illustration of the copper disc actuating devices.
>  
> Also looked in Sunbeam Survivor and CAT Notes. Nothing.
>  
> Can anybody suggest anything that will clearly illustrate the actuating system? 
> Once again, wen they honk, they sound perfect.
>  
> Best regards to all,..
> 
> Jim Armstrong
> Mk 1A
> 382002083 LRXFE
> Code 86
> TAC # 0763
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> 
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From cmccann1972 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 23 12:21:38 2025
From: cmccann1972 at gmail.com (Cullen McCann)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 18:21:38 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Unrestored Hardtop value?
Message-ID: <LV2P220MB0821DAF255744755D61BFF33FB3CA@LV2P220MB0821.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Friends, I don't message very often because my Tiger is in hibernation while I finish some other projects. But I thought this would be the best place to ask.

I know everybody's going to want to see photos. Just do the best you can with what I'm offering. What is a hardtop worth in the following condition:

Minimal Rust, a.k.a surface but not rusted through. Unrestored and in multiple colors. No hail damage. Rear window trim is present  except for the couplers on the center above and below.

All mounting hardware, window hardware and hinges, our present but in unrestored condition with some pitting.

Back window missing, side windows white and broken.

What would you expect to pay  for an unrestored hardtop in this condition?

I'm not offering one for sale.

500 bucks? 1000?


Sincerely,
Cullen McCann
Yukon, OK.
B382001452 LROFE
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 23 12:25:53 2025
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 13:25:53 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Horn issue
In-Reply-To: <2011126739.305597.1755961268755@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2011126739.305597.1755961268755.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2011126739.305597.1755961268755@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi James,

I don't know if these photos will help or not.
[image: IMG_20150126_202718 (1).jpg]

[image: IMG_20150126_202735.jpg]


[image: IMG_20200106_154041.jpg]

Basically, when you push on the horn ring on the steering wheel the spring
loaded, copper colored disc shorts against the horn ring and completes the
path.  You might have a loose or broken wire causing an intermittent
problem.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 10:19?AM James Armstrong via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> In getting my car ready for an inspection sticker, I noticed my horn
> system works intermittently. When it works, both horns sound .fine.
> Seems the problem is in the steering column.
>
> I've looked under Electrical (horns) and Steering column (horns) in the
> Shop Manual and find no clear illustration of the copper disc actuating
> devices.
>
> Also looked in Sunbeam Survivor and CAT Notes. Nothing.
>
> Can anybody suggest anything that will clearly illustrate the actuating
> system?
> Once again, wen they honk, they sound perfect.
>
> Best regards to all,..
>
> Jim Armstrong
> Mk 1A
> 382002083 LRXFE
> Code 86
> TAC # 0763
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 23 12:48:27 2025
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 13:48:27 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Unrestored Hardtop value?
In-Reply-To: <LV2P220MB0821DAF255744755D61BFF33FB3CA@LV2P220MB0821.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Mine was in similar condition when I restored it last year.  I stripped it
and had it painted, rechromed the hardware, replaced the windows and all of
the seals and replaced the headliner.  I spent about $1800 total for all of
that.  Hagerty says that a hardtop adds $5000 to the value of a Tiger.  So
if that figure is correct I would guess that the unrestored hardtop could
be worth $2000 or $3000?  That sounds high now that I say it out loud.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 1:39?PM Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Friends, I don't message very often because my Tiger is in hibernation
> while I finish some other projects. But I thought this would be the best
> place to ask.
>
> I know everybody's going to want to see photos. Just do the best you can
> with what I'm offering. What is a hardtop worth in the following condition:
>
> Minimal Rust, a.k.a surface but not rusted through. Unrestored and in
> multiple colors. No hail damage. Rear window trim is present  except for
> the couplers on the center above and below.
>
> All mounting hardware, window hardware and hinges, our present but in
> unrestored condition with some pitting.
>
> Back window missing, side windows white and broken.
>
> What would you expect to pay  for an unrestored hardtop in this condition?
>
> I'm not offering one for sale.
>
> 500 bucks? 1000?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Cullen McCann
> Yukon, OK.
> B382001452 LROFE
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From rollright at aol.com  Sat Aug 23 13:18:18 2025
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 15:18:18 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Horn
References: <36620F7B-1990-4B73-8608-F2513CF370EB.ref@aol.com>
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Thanks for taking the time to send those photos Joe
That?s the closest thing I?ve come to an illustration and it really helps. Thanks again Jim Armstrong.
Sent from my iPhone

From robertdhogan at gmail.com  Sat Aug 23 16:37:19 2025
From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 18:37:19 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
Message-ID: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>

After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm trying
to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector leaks.
Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge
with gasoline.
I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks
because of the flammability risk.
Haven't found any information on the net.
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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 05:31:49 2025
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 07:31:49 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If there's
a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.

On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm trying
> to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector leaks.
> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge
> with gasoline.
> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks
> because of the flammability risk.
> Haven't found any information on the net.
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 08:25:33 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 07:25:33 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CAGiVA4ayHutSaCOZz9sJesz346P7OBJstysEo1ak_=Ozbj6bnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADoP9Fc_=d_sku=Ar1QPgtE+GpSwQnDgFYnxZjzpJLp2jWE4-Q@mail.gmail.com>

And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive
mixture, not to mention fire.
Gary W.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If
> there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
> possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm trying
>> to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector leaks.
>> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
>> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge
>> with gasoline.
>> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks
>> because of the flammability risk.
>> Haven't found any information on the net.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From robertdhogan at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 08:38:43 2025
From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:38:43 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CADoP9Fc_=d_sku=Ar1QPgtE+GpSwQnDgFYnxZjzpJLp2jWE4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at the
filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the
compatilbiity and carburation effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in
minute amounts with the regular gasoline.  I suspect that would be
insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the
least favorable option.













On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> wrote:

> And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive
> mixture, not to mention fire.
> Gary W.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If
>> there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
>> possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm
>>> trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector
>>> leaks.
>>> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
>>> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge
>>> with gasoline.
>>> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks
>>> because of the flammability risk.
>>> Haven't found any information on the net.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>
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From robertdhogan at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 08:40:15 2025
From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:40:15 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CANcw8Mgx+BNjOCEyU6JErC7HPeEeCABOyxqrzJk5ySqRA9oz9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGiVA4ayHutSaCOZz9sJesz346P7OBJstysEo1ak_=Ozbj6bnQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, remeber the video of the guy that had a gasoline leak in his garage
with his E-type?

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:38?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:

> While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at the
> filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the
> compatilbiity and carburation effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in
> minute amounts with the regular gasoline.  I suspect that would be
> insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the
> least favorable option.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive
>> mixture, not to mention fire.
>> Gary W.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If
>>> there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
>>> possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm
>>>> trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector
>>>> leaks.
>>>> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
>>>> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge
>>>> with gasoline.
>>>> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks
>>>> because of the flammability risk.
>>>> Haven't found any information on the net.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>>>
>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 08:58:50 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 07:58:50 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CANcw8MgEzBj_UBWJ3ESA860D=vxg4gdFjYa6VV+tApWfae5ssQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADoP9Fc_=d_sku=Ar1QPgtE+GpSwQnDgFYnxZjzpJLp2jWE4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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It was 1992 when I did my tanks but you are probably worrying too much.
Make sure the metal fittings are clean and smooth, put on the rubber
connectors (make sure they are on far enough), tighten the clamps.  No
leaks when I did mine.  Now my fuel pump connections were a pain...
I finally got those fixed with some liquid teflon stuff.
Gary W.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 7:40?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, remeber the video of the guy that had a gasoline leak in his garage
> with his E-type?
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:38?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at the
>> filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the
>> compatilbiity and carburation effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in
>> minute amounts with the regular gasoline.  I suspect that would be
>> insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the
>> least favorable option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive
>>> mixture, not to mention fire.
>>> Gary W.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <
>>> jefferyrandall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If
>>>> there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
>>>> possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm
>>>>> trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector
>>>>> leaks.
>>>>> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
>>>>> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a
>>>>> purge with gasoline.
>>>>> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no
>>>>> leaks because of the flammability risk.
>>>>> Haven't found any information on the net.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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>>>>
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From coolvt at aol.com  Sun Aug 24 10:24:03 2025
From: coolvt at aol.com (Mark L)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 16:24:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
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I figured with air that there wouldn't be the issue of cleaning out the tanks or carbs later.? RE air.? I remember a plumber testing water lines with air for an inspector.??If I remember right there was a plug with? a schrader valve on the inlet.? ?in your case at the gas filler hose. Plug the other end and you're in business.
In a message dated 8/24/2025 11:37:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, robertdhogan at gmail.com writes:?
While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at the filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the compatilbiity?and carburation?effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in minute amounts with the regular gasoline.? I suspect that would be insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the least favorable option.????????????
On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> wrote:
And push the Tiger outside.? Gas spills inside can build to explosive mixture, not to mention fire.Gary W.?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com> wrote:
Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
?After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector leaks.Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge with gasoline.I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks because of the flammability risk.Haven't found any information on the net._______________________________________________

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 10:44:13 2025
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:44:13 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
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References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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If you do have a slight leak it can be hard to find.  Or at least it was
for me.  I would go out for a drive and get horrible gas fumes in the car.
When I got home I would pull the panels out of the trunk looking for a leak
and could never see anything damp.  I finally read somewhere that you can
wrap the joints with tissue paper and that will show you where the leak
is.  It worked for me.  It turned out the hose between the passenger side
tank and the filler cap had tiny little cracks that would leak gas while
cornering if the tank was near full.  I replaced that hose and everything
has been good.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 11:21?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> wrote:

> It was 1992 when I did my tanks but you are probably worrying too much.
> Make sure the metal fittings are clean and smooth, put on the rubber
> connectors (make sure they are on far enough), tighten the clamps.  No
> leaks when I did mine.  Now my fuel pump connections were a pain...
> I finally got those fixed with some liquid teflon stuff.
> Gary W.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 7:40?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, remeber the video of the guy that had a gasoline leak in his garage
>> with his E-type?
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:38?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at
>>> the filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the
>>> compatilbiity and carburation effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in
>>> minute amounts with the regular gasoline.  I suspect that would be
>>> insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the
>>> least favorable option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive
>>>> mixture, not to mention fire.
>>>> Gary W.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <
>>>> jefferyrandall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If
>>>>> there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
>>>>> possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm
>>>>>> trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector
>>>>>> leaks.
>>>>>> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
>>>>>> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a
>>>>>> purge with gasoline.
>>>>>> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no
>>>>>> leaks because of the flammability risk.
>>>>>> Haven't found any information on the net.
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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 10:56:45 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 09:56:45 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wf=fx0HMV1abOVj4x=pwq_tqS_YPCHUSN2SnNiuUseQvGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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Before you change the rubbers..  get ALL new rubber!
AND have the tanks cleaned, checked and sealed (Radiator shops used to do
that, hopefully there is one that
still will).  These are old tanks, they may have tiny pin holes, sealer
will fix that if they aren't too big.
Gary W.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 9:44?AM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you do have a slight leak it can be hard to find.  Or at least it was
> for me.  I would go out for a drive and get horrible gas fumes in the car.
> When I got home I would pull the panels out of the trunk looking for a leak
> and could never see anything damp.  I finally read somewhere that you can
> wrap the joints with tissue paper and that will show you where the leak
> is.  It worked for me.  It turned out the hose between the passenger side
> tank and the filler cap had tiny little cracks that would leak gas while
> cornering if the tank was near full.  I replaced that hose and everything
> has been good.
>
> Have Fun,
> Joe Brown
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 11:21?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It was 1992 when I did my tanks but you are probably worrying too much.
>> Make sure the metal fittings are clean and smooth, put on the rubber
>> connectors (make sure they are on far enough), tighten the clamps.  No
>> leaks when I did mine.  Now my fuel pump connections were a pain...
>> I finally got those fixed with some liquid teflon stuff.
>> Gary W.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 7:40?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, remeber the video of the guy that had a gasoline leak in his garage
>>> with his E-type?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:38?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at
>>>> the filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the
>>>> compatilbiity and carburation effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in
>>>> minute amounts with the regular gasoline.  I suspect that would be
>>>> insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the
>>>> least favorable option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive
>>>>> mixture, not to mention fire.
>>>>> Gary W.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <
>>>>> jefferyrandall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If
>>>>>> there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as
>>>>>> possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm
>>>>>>> trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector
>>>>>>> leaks.
>>>>>>> Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
>>>>>>> Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a
>>>>>>> purge with gasoline.
>>>>>>> I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no
>>>>>>> leaks because of the flammability risk.
>>>>>>> Haven't found any information on the net.
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
>>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>>
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 24 14:05:24 2025
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald S Antilla)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 20:05:24 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wf=fx0HMV1abOVj4x=pwq_tqS_YPCHUSN2SnNiuUseQvGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANcw8Mh5-gq4dx8jFc_hAWH31MkDBYtkMrkdcr2KsqFL_NhSKw@mail.gmail.com>
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I used the toilet paper technique when I was trying to find the source of a water seepage into a Doppler Navigation Radar on a USAF HH-53B helicopter. Did that back in about 1969. It worked well; found the leakage path.

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, August 24, 2025 at 3:05?PM
To: Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com>
Cc: Tiger's List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas Tanks & Connector Pipes Leakage Testing
If you do have a slight leak it can be hard to find.  Or at least it was for me.  I would go out for a drive and get horrible gas fumes in the car.  When I got home I would pull the panels out of the trunk looking for a leak and could never see anything damp.  I finally read somewhere that you can wrap the joints with tissue paper and that will show you where the leak is.  It worked for me.  It turned out the hose between the passenger side tank and the filler cap had tiny little cracks that would leak gas while cornering if the tank was near full.  I replaced that hose and everything has been good.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 11:21?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com<mailto:winbladgary at gmail.com>> wrote:
It was 1992 when I did my tanks but you are probably worrying too much.  Make sure the metal fittings are clean and smooth, put on the rubber
connectors (make sure they are on far enough), tighten the clamps.  No leaks when I did mine.  Now my fuel pump connections were a pain...
I finally got those fixed with some liquid teflon stuff.
Gary W.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 7:40?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com<mailto:robertdhogan at gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, remeber the video of the guy that had a gasoline leak in his garage with his E-type?

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:38?AM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com<mailto:robertdhogan at gmail.com>> wrote:
While testing with pressurized air would be ideal, assuming a seal at the filler opening can be obtained, the essence of my question was what the compatilbiity and carburation effect of residual kerosene is when mixed in minute amounts with the regular gasoline.  I suspect that would be insignificant. Testing the fuel storage initially with gasoline is the least favorable option.













On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com<mailto:winbladgary at gmail.com>> wrote:
And push the Tiger outside.  Gas spills inside can build to explosive mixture, not to mention fire.
Gary W.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:36?AM Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com<mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com>> wrote:
Just put in the smallest amount of gas, like a half gallon, max. If there's a leak that will find it. Be sure the hoses are centered as much as possible and tighten the clamps as snugly as. you can.

On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 7:13?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com<mailto:robertdhogan at gmail.com>> wrote:

After completing the reinstallation of my tiger's 2 gas tanks, I'm trying to determine the best means of testing for any rubber connector leaks.
Has anyone tested for leakage by adding a few gallons of kerosene?
Any usable test fluid would have to be flushed out before doing a purge with gasoline.
I don't want to risk adding gasoline until I know if there are no leaks because of the flammability risk.
Haven't found any information on the net.
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