From blance598 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 11:28:23 2023
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 13:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
Message-ID: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>

I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not tighten.
That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got the car back
from New paint and body work. I was going to use a threaded stud ,but no
access.
Any ideas are appreciated.  Beau
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/ebbd2556/attachment.htm>

From sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  1 15:41:30 2023
From: sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com (Arden Bedell)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 14:41:30 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN0P221MB08741A9E549D8DF52D16B5DAAFC6A@MN0P221MB0874.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Rivet nut?

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/rivet-nuts/

On 10/1/23 10:28, Lance Beauchamp wrote:
> I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not 
> tighten. That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got 
> the car back from New paint and body work. I was going to use a 
> threaded stud ,but no access.
> Any ideas are appreciated.? Beau
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers  http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/53d93031/attachment.htm>

From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 15:43:30 2023
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 17:43:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGiVA4YLT9NvFd7k4y4vTvcVMEctz3NaYYZ9Kap9W51SWuhcNA@mail.gmail.com>

Put a motif clip in the hole and screw in your stud.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 4:12?PM Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not tighten.
> That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got the car back
> from New paint and body work. I was going to use a threaded stud ,but no
> access.
> Any ideas are appreciated.  Beau
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall at gmail.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/c28a23d1/attachment.htm>

From ktisdale at ix.netcom.com  Sun Oct  1 15:49:51 2023
From: ktisdale at ix.netcom.com (Ken Tisdale)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 15:49:51 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nW10gYim2GuVb9emU9jukphMapcqa=v8wMxr-jb9tfxgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <abafb1aa-94c8-4674-923d-bf14038e5c12@ix.netcom.com>

Took the gas tank cover off. taped the correct wrench for the screw stud 
on a yard stick and play doed the nut in the wrench, and patiently got 
it to work. A pain, but it worked.

Ken

On 10/1/2023 11:28 AM, Lance Beauchamp wrote:
> I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not 
> tighten. That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got 
> the car back from New paint and body work. I was going to use a 
> threaded stud ,but no access.
> Any ideas are appreciated.? Beau
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ktisdale at ix.netcom.com
>
>
-- 
Ken Tisdale 303-807-5488
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: ktisdale.vcf
Type: text/vcard
Size: 4 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/868273ef/attachment.vcf>

From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 16:49:11 2023
From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 18:49:11 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] toureau stud
Message-ID: <CAF6p=0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size,
put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the
panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2"
hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the
treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved
for good.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/23c1ae63/attachment.htm>

From jim at island.net  Sun Oct  1 18:12:04 2023
From: jim at island.net (Jim)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 17:12:04 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] toureau stud
In-Reply-To: <CAF6p=0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF6p=0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ADE99257-7091-45D2-8F1F-A5DD2B89A623@island.net>

I just drilled an appropriate hole  and installed 10/32 ?Riv nuts? and screwed the studs in? all done from above ? easy-peasy
Jim
B382000446 LRXFE

Sent from my ShoePhone


> On Oct 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size, put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2" hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved for good.
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive
> 
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jim at island.net
> 
> 


From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 18:12:52 2023
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 20:12:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] toureau stud
In-Reply-To: <CAF6p=0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF6p=0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <611185986.281891.1696205572302@connect.xfinity.com>

Put a small copper wire in the hole with your screw-in stud.  It will get a bite.  Then clip it short
and screw it down.  Has worked for me before.
Gary
 

> On 10/01/2023 3:49 PM PDT Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size, put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2" hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved for good.
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive
> 
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/e937f88e/attachment-0001.htm>

From blance598 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 07:16:49 2023
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 09:16:49 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 227
In-Reply-To: <mailman.509.1696205601.23356.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.509.1696205601.23356.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CACQC2nXEUaKUZE14wKo=43K7M2jMYufY+-j1-qXXUpY555MEHw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you gentlemen for your thoughts on my striped stud hole.  Beau

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 8:46 PM <tigers-request at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Send Tigers mailing list submissions to
>         tigers at autox.team.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         tigers-request at autox.team.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         tigers-owner at autox.team.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Tonneau cover studs (Arden Bedell)
>    2. Re: Tonneau cover studs (Jeffery Randall)
>    3. Re: Tonneau cover studs (Ken Tisdale)
>    4. toureau stud (Clyde Mclaughlin)
>    5. Re: toureau stud (Jim)
>    6. Re: toureau stud (GARY WINBLAD)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 14:41:30 -0700
> From: Arden Bedell <sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com>
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
> Message-ID:
>         <
> MN0P221MB08741A9E549D8DF52D16B5DAAFC6A at MN0P221MB0874.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Rivet nut?
>
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/rivet-nuts/
>
> On 10/1/23 10:28, Lance Beauchamp wrote:
> > I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not
> > tighten. That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got
> > the car back from New paint and body work. I was going to use a
> > threaded stud ,but no access.
> > Any ideas are appreciated.? Beau
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/53d93031/attachment-0001.htm
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 17:43:30 -0400
> From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAGiVA4YLT9NvFd7k4y4vTvcVMEctz3NaYYZ9Kap9W51SWuhcNA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Put a motif clip in the hole and screw in your stud.
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 4:12?PM Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not tighten.
> > That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got the car back
> > from New paint and body work. I was going to use a threaded stud ,but no
> > access.
> > Any ideas are appreciated.  Beau
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> > http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe:
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/c28a23d1/attachment-0001.htm
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 15:49:51 -0600
> From: Ken Tisdale <ktisdale at ix.netcom.com>
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tonneau cover studs
> Message-ID: <abafb1aa-94c8-4674-923d-bf14038e5c12 at ix.netcom.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Took the gas tank cover off. taped the correct wrench for the screw stud
> on a yard stick and play doed the nut in the wrench, and patiently got
> it to work. A pain, but it worked.
>
> Ken
>
> On 10/1/2023 11:28 AM, Lance Beauchamp wrote:
> > I have a striped hole , near the trunk hinge, the stud will not
> > tighten. That's a sealed area, how does one cure this issue, just got
> > the car back from New paint and body work. I was going to use a
> > threaded stud ,but no access.
> > Any ideas are appreciated.? Beau
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ktisdale at ix.netcom.com
> >
> >
> --
> Ken Tisdale 303-807-5488
> -------------- next part --------------
> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> Name: ktisdale.vcf
> Type: text/vcard
> Size: 4 bytes
> Desc: not available
> URL: <
> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/868273ef/attachment-0001.vcf
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 18:49:11 -0400
> From: Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com>
> To: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] toureau stud
> Message-ID:
>         <CAF6p=
> 0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size,
> put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the
> panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2"
> hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the
> treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved
> for good.
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/23c1ae63/attachment-0001.htm
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 17:12:04 -0700
> From: Jim <jim at island.net>
> To: Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] toureau stud
> Message-ID: <ADE99257-7091-45D2-8F1F-A5DD2B89A623 at island.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I just drilled an appropriate hole  and installed 10/32 ?Riv nuts? and
> screwed the studs in? all done from above ? easy-peasy
> Jim
> B382000446 LRXFE
>
> Sent from my ShoePhone
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Clyde Mclaughlin <
> clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size,
> put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the
> panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2"
> hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the
> treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved
> for good.
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jim at island.net
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 20:12:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
> To: Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com>, Tiger Talk List
>         Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] toureau stud
> Message-ID: <611185986.281891.1696205572302 at connect.xfinity.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Put a small copper wire in the hole with your screw-in stud.  It will get
> a bite.  Then clip it short
> and screw it down.  Has worked for me before.
> Gary
>
>
> > On 10/01/2023 3:49 PM PDT Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size,
> put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the
> panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2"
> hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the
> treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved
> for good.
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231001/e937f88e/attachment.htm
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tigers mailing list
> Tigers at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 227
> ***************************************
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231002/33932b8d/attachment.htm>

From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct  2 08:43:30 2023
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 10:43:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] toureau stud
In-Reply-To: <ADE99257-7091-45D2-8F1F-A5DD2B89A623@island.net>
References: <CAF6p=0CgNqSVWiNHnpxVxYT9LvKqQ5uoeTREoi5Awg7kXMUPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <ADE99257-7091-45D2-8F1F-A5DD2B89A623@island.net>
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hZMJvMXxDJGCkzuAkQDKdFG6FUD6K1W43ZS3rJ8MLA-hg@mail.gmail.com>

Rivnuts are the way to go.  But rather than drilling the hole out, suggest
that you enlarge the existing hole with a long tapered reamer.  Hole should
be large enough to snugly fit the body of the rivnut but not the ridges
along the side.  Get the rivnut started into the hole and then tap it in
flush with the body.  The ribs will cut into the side of the hole.  Then
finish the job with the insertion tool.  I have done this on a number of
stud holes and the result is better than factory.  Ultimate plan is to
install rivnuts for all of the studs ... someday.
Good luck

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 8:12?PM Jim via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I just drilled an appropriate hole  and installed 10/32 ?Riv nuts? and
> screwed the studs in? all done from above ? easy-peasy
> Jim
> B382000446 LRXFE
>
> Sent from my ShoePhone
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Clyde Mclaughlin <
> clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Get a stud with #10 machine thread,  drill the hole to appropriate size,
> put a small punch through the hole and tap it, it will put a dent in the
> panel in the trunk underneath, then use a rota broach bit and make a 1/2"
> hole in that under panel, now you can install a nut and washer on the the
> treaded stud, maybe use some blue locktite or a nylock nut.  problem solved
> for good.
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jim at island.net
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231002/cbeb7d1a/attachment-0001.htm>

From awtiger at cox.net  Tue Oct 10 07:16:50 2023
From: awtiger at cox.net (Andy Walker)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 08:16:50 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] MkII headlight rings
Message-ID: <001c01d9fb7c$08da48e0$1a8edaa0$@cox.net>

Hey, guys:

 

I just got a call from a friend of mine who maintains the old Alan Fraser
Tiger race car for its current owner.  Evidently, the car received front end
damage at a race in Sonoma earlier this year and they are in the process of
making the necessary repairs.  Unfortunately, the MkII Tiger headlight rings
were destroyed in the accident and they are now in need of another set.
Does anyone out there have a pair that they would like to make available to
the project?  

 

In our phone conversation this morning, I told him that I believed that
those rings were only used on late Series V Alpines and all MkII Tigers.
Are they any other Rootes cars that used those rings?  Thanks in advance for
any help that you all can provide!!!

 

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

B382001600LRXFE

TAC #740

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231010/043a3fc3/attachment.htm>

From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 13 13:33:05 2023
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:33:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Steering Wheel Resto
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hZn+pbpkFx1NRfcNpMRg5U4kNwMXsJO0z0HUwDd89gTnQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have been a regular watcher of Youtube videos by Thomas Johnson's Antique
Furniture Restoration.  Imagine my surprise when in I saw that his most
recent project was the restoration of a Sunbeam Tiger steering wheel.  The
host car was described as a California car, the 36 car produced.  That
would make it B9470036 by my reckoning.  If the owner is reading this he
may want to identify himself and his car.  Thomas Johnson doesn't know much
about Sunbeam Tigers but he knows lots about antique wood restoration and
repair.  If you would like to see how a pro does a steering wheel
restoration check out this video:
https://youtu.be/ZcwkLN1SDTA?si=exMcdrE4RSKBJlIs

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231013/4568d04f/attachment.htm>

From sosnaenergyconsulting at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 17:14:10 2023
From: sosnaenergyconsulting at gmail.com (David Sosna)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:14:10 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Steering Wheel Resto
In-Reply-To: <CAMRx0hZn+pbpkFx1NRfcNpMRg5U4kNwMXsJO0z0HUwDd89gTnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMRx0hZn+pbpkFx1NRfcNpMRg5U4kNwMXsJO0z0HUwDd89gTnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7379a375-708a-4eb4-8daf-d39e04c031ca@gmail.com>

Will:

Wow.? Just WOW!? That was an amazing video--thanks for sharing it.

Came out so nice it seems a shame to get finger grease and dirt on it. ?

Thanks again.

Best Regards

David Sosna

On 10/13/23 12:33, Will Seay via Tigers wrote:
> I have been a regular watcher of Youtube videos by Thomas Johnson's 
> Antique Furniture Restoration.? Imagine my surprise when in I saw that 
> his most recent project was the restoration of a Sunbeam Tiger 
> steering wheel.? The host car was described as a California car, the 
> 36 car produced.? That would make it B9470036 by my reckoning.? If the 
> owner is reading this he may want to identify himself and his car.? 
> Thomas Johnson doesn't know much about Sunbeam Tigers but he knows 
> lots about antique wood restoration and repair.? If you would like to 
> see how a pro does a steering wheel restoration check out this video: 
> https://youtu.be/ZcwkLN1SDTA?si=exMcdrE4RSKBJlIs
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers  http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting at cox.net
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231013/bd92dff5/attachment.htm>

From blance598 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 14 11:51:41 2023
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 13:51:41 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Orange ignition light
Message-ID: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>

Got the car back recently from a 2 year body and paint vacation. Now I have
wiring issues.
I connect the bat an the orange light comes on, my key is still in my hand.
Car starts light goes out an it's charging fine. Shut off the car the light
comesback on an never goes off?
My thoughts, voltage  regulator?
Car looks great , just so you know. Beau
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231014/ce50485c/attachment.htm>

From tsmit at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 14 12:11:56 2023
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 12:11:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Orange ignition light
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <892060997.13939963.1697307116118.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>

Your ignition switch may be getting stuck in the accessory position. 

Theo

> On Oct 14, 2023, at 12:10 PM, Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Got the car back recently from a 2 year body and paint vacation. Now I have wiring issues. 
> I connect the bat an the orange light comes on, my key is still in my hand. Car starts light goes out an it's charging fine. Shut off the car the light comesback on an never goes off?
> My thoughts, voltage  regulator?
> Car looks great , just so you know. Beau 

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Oct 14 13:11:37 2023
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:11:37 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Orange ignition light
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01d9fed2$43b0fc80$cb12f580$@bluefrog.com>

Beau

 

1st you need to check the wire diagram and your wire harness.

 

Your situation sounds like the NY wire (brown / yellow) from the light is on the BAT terminal of the VR.

 

NY wire from light goes to ARM terminal on VR with NY wire from generator

 

Battery wires are N ? brown wires.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:52 PM
To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Orange ignition light

 

Got the car back recently from a 2 year body and paint vacation. Now I have wiring issues. 

I connect the bat an the orange light comes on, my key is still in my hand. Car starts light goes out an it's charging fine. Shut off the car the light comesback on an never goes off?

My thoughts, voltage  regulator?

Car looks great , just so you know. Beau 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231014/d6321db6/attachment.htm>

From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 14 13:27:58 2023
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:27:58 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Orange ignition light
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hZ59JwJV2=s-dz8MC4hZtwqSZJbyeoTZHa4FLozPF-FLg@mail.gmail.com>

Lance,
The light is wired wrong.  It should go to a switched voltage.  Instead, it
must be connected to a voltage that is always on.  It's probably connected
to terminal 1 on the ignition switch instead of terminal 2.  Terminal 2 is
where all the white wires connect.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 1:51?PM Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Got the car back recently from a 2 year body and paint vacation. Now I
> have wiring issues.
> I connect the bat an the orange light comes on, my key is still in my
> hand. Car starts light goes out an it's charging fine. Shut off the car the
> light comesback on an never goes off?
> My thoughts, voltage  regulator?
> Car looks great , just so you know. Beau
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231014/11b6c636/attachment.htm>

From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Sat Oct 14 19:33:20 2023
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 01:33:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 230
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1697306402.18083.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1697306402.18083.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2009231445.8228715.1697333600251@mail.yahoo.com>

 36 was grabbed out of long term storage by a guy in Temecula California. He jumped into CAT and the forum for a short while before he flipped it.? He got some missing bits from me and the usual suspects in Alpine world.? I saw the car in person .?Very few PO changes save for the mustard ish respray
    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 01:37:52 PM MDT, <tigers-request at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Send Tigers mailing list submissions to
??? tigers at autox.team.net

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
??? tigers-request at autox.team.net

You can reach the person managing the list at
??? tigers-owner at autox.team.net

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."


Today's Topics:

? 1. Steering Wheel Resto (Will Seay)
? 2. Re: Steering Wheel Resto (David Sosna)
? 3. Orange ignition light (Lance Beauchamp)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:33:05 -0400
From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
To: Tiger Server <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Steering Wheel Resto
Message-ID:
??? <CAMRx0hZn+pbpkFx1NRfcNpMRg5U4kNwMXsJO0z0HUwDd89gTnQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I have been a regular watcher of Youtube videos by Thomas Johnson's Antique
Furniture Restoration.? Imagine my surprise when in I saw that his most
recent project was the restoration of a Sunbeam Tiger steering wheel.? The
host car was described as a California car, the 36 car produced.? That
would make it B9470036 by my reckoning.? If the owner is reading this he
may want to identify himself and his car.? Thomas Johnson doesn't know much
about Sunbeam Tigers but he knows lots about antique wood restoration and
repair.? If you would like to see how a pro does a steering wheel
restoration check out this video:
https://youtu.be/ZcwkLN1SDTA?si=exMcdrE4RSKBJlIs

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231013/4568d04f/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:14:10 -0700
From: David Sosna <sosnaenergyconsulting at gmail.com>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering Wheel Resto
Message-ID: <7379a375-708a-4eb4-8daf-d39e04c031ca at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

Will:

Wow.? Just WOW!? That was an amazing video--thanks for sharing it.

Came out so nice it seems a shame to get finger grease and dirt on it. ?

Thanks again.

Best Regards

David Sosna

On 10/13/23 12:33, Will Seay via Tigers wrote:
> I have been a regular watcher of Youtube videos by Thomas Johnson's 
> Antique Furniture Restoration.? Imagine my surprise when in I saw that 
> his most recent project was the restoration of a Sunbeam Tiger 
> steering wheel.? The host car was described as a California car, the 
> 36 car produced.? That would make it B9470036 by my reckoning.? If the 
> owner is reading this he may want to identify himself and his car.? 
> Thomas Johnson doesn't know much about Sunbeam Tigers but he knows 
> lots about antique wood restoration and repair.? If you would like to 
> see how a pro does a steering wheel restoration check out this video: 
> https://youtu.be/ZcwkLN1SDTA?si=exMcdrE4RSKBJlIs
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers? http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting at cox.net
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231013/bd92dff5/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 13:51:41 -0400
From: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
To: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Orange ignition light
Message-ID:
??? <CACQC2nWYsOCm215ffOc0Q9oKfjS5Zip1DTKYB50SPyushez82A at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Got the car back recently from a 2 year body and paint vacation. Now I have
wiring issues.
I connect the bat an the orange light comes on, my key is still in my hand.
Car starts light goes out an it's charging fine. Shut off the car the light
comesback on an never goes off?
My thoughts, voltage? regulator?
Car looks great , just so you know. Beau
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231014/ce50485c/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Tigers mailing list
Tigers at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers

Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive


------------------------------

End of Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 230
***************************************
  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231015/560099c1/attachment-0001.htm>

From packertl3 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 20 16:29:11 2023
From: packertl3 at yahoo.com (Terry Packer)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 22:29:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master Cylinder
In-Reply-To: <1866246372.23043364.1695562793318.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
References: <546c17d0-442e-4c8c-b788-46ac6743dad3@verizon.net>
 <1866246372.23043364.1695562793318.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
Message-ID: <1061955406.451142.1697840951933@mail.yahoo.com>

I was looking at the clutch hydraulics on my Mk1 to ensure the clutch slave is producing maximum travel. What I noticed is some lost motion in the clutch master cylinder between the pushrod and the piston. It's definitely there and not in the clevis/clutch pedal, etc. My first thought is that the master piston should return until it bottoms against the dome of the pushrod, which is stopped by the bore washer/circlip. Before going any further I thought I'd confirm whether or not this "play" of 1/8" or so between the pushrod and piston is a fault or not. I'm hoping that it is and correcting it will result in the slave producing a touch more travel.

Thanks in advance.Terry
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231020/c4615457/attachment.htm>

From packertl3 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 20 20:28:01 2023
From: packertl3 at yahoo.com (Terry Packer)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 02:28:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master Cylinder II
In-Reply-To: <1061955406.451142.1697840951933@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <546c17d0-442e-4c8c-b788-46ac6743dad3@verizon.net>
 <1866246372.23043364.1695562793318.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
 <1061955406.451142.1697840951933@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <673913322.500100.1697855281529@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All
Upon re-reading my previous post I think I failed to ask a straightforward question. Should the clutch master piston return the full length of the bore until it contacts the pushrod dome or is some space between the two normal/permissible?
Thanks AgainTerry
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231021/c7ded8a3/attachment.htm>

From garywinblad at comcast.net  Fri Oct 20 21:46:36 2023
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:46:36 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master Cylinder II
In-Reply-To: <673913322.500100.1697855281529@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <673913322.500100.1697855281529@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8001894D-5D81-4177-BD8D-A9D9C9523419@comcast.net>

Terry,
I am pretty sure it should return all the way.
Have you taken it apart?  There is a spring
inside and I have had them break before.
Gary Winblad


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:45 PM, Terry Packer via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi All
> 
> Upon re-reading my previous post I think I failed to ask a straightforward question. Should the clutch master piston return the full length of the bore until it contacts the pushrod dome or is some space between the two normal/permissible?
> 
> Thanks Again
> Terry
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive
> 
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net
> 
> 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231020/edfcd9a1/attachment.htm>

From mark44124 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 21 09:54:21 2023
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 11:54:21 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master Cylinder II
In-Reply-To: <673913322.500100.1697855281529@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <546c17d0-442e-4c8c-b788-46ac6743dad3@verizon.net>
 <1866246372.23043364.1695562793318.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
 <1061955406.451142.1697840951933@mail.yahoo.com>
 <673913322.500100.1697855281529@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+8dKTtrROVgn4Qnr4Ni2rJhrzdxtp5n_VpVxUakifiT1Jo3rg@mail.gmail.com>

I?ve rebuilt several. The piston is retained by the domed part of the push
rod which is in turn held in via the circlip. There should be no gap. If
your piston is hanging up then it may be buggered inside the bore.


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:45 PM Terry Packer via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Upon re-reading my previous post I think I failed to ask a straightforward
> question. Should the clutch master piston return the full length of the
> bore until it contacts the pushrod dome or is some space between the two
> normal/permissible?
>
> Thanks Again
> Terry
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark44124 at gmail.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231021/93ef02f4/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: IMG_6331.jpg
Type: image/jpg
Size: 68863 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231021/93ef02f4/attachment-0001.jpg>

From harryb at elams.org  Sat Oct 21 13:16:59 2023
From: harryb at elams.org (H B Elam)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:16:59 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master cylinder
Message-ID: <AAA7BCEE-E460-42C4-A178-8BEDB5834A5B@elams.org>

On both B382002021 & B382000471 there was 1) a hole on the clutch actuating arm and 2) a tab pop riveted to the driver side frame rail with a suitable sized hole. The two allowed an external spring to be connected between them to assist in fully returning the piston to the fully returned position against the piston dome.
B382002027 came with the spring and was never any problem.

B382000471 did not have the spring and had a screaming throw out bearing when the clutch was engaged on the entire trip in 1983 from Arizona to Virginia. Without determining the cause, I replaced the throw out bearing while doing other engine work. Years later in 1991 on a vacation trip the bearing began screaming again. This time I remembered the spring and found a suitable replacement. To date there has never been another problem in another 20K miles driving.

I have official parts listing books for all Tigers. I am also TAC inspector #37. Never have I found a part list that included the spring and only rarely have I found a spring or pop riveted tab installed during a TAC.

Harry Elam

From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sun Oct 22 20:52:52 2023
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:52:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master cylinder
In-Reply-To: <AAA7BCEE-E460-42C4-A178-8BEDB5834A5B@elams.org>
References: <AAA7BCEE-E460-42C4-A178-8BEDB5834A5B@elams.org>
Message-ID: <1663010168.487033.1698029572907@connect.xfinity.com>

I have it on good authority(Paul Reisentz) that Tigers never came with the return spring.

When I bought B94790622 in 1971 it already had one.

If you don't have a return spring, you have a self-adjusting clutch which IIRC the shop manual says
it is..?
Mine has a hole punched in the frame rail for the spring, no tab, rivets or anything.  My spring is
much lighter than the ones Paul used to install but has always worked fine for me.
Gary



> On 10/21/2023 12:16 PM PDT H B Elam via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> On both B382002021 & B382000471 there was 1) a hole on the clutch actuating arm and 2) a tab pop riveted to the driver side frame rail with a suitable sized hole. The two allowed an external spring to be connected between them to assist in fully returning the piston to the fully returned position against the piston dome.
> B382002027 came with the spring and was never any problem.
> 
> B382000471 did not have the spring and had a screaming throw out bearing when the clutch was engaged on the entire trip in 1983 from Arizona to Virginia. Without determining the cause, I replaced the throw out bearing while doing other engine work. Years later in 1991 on a vacation trip the bearing began screaming again. This time I remembered the spring and found a suitable replacement. To date there has never been another problem in another 20K miles driving.
> 
> I have official parts listing books for all Tigers. I am also TAC inspector #37. Never have I found a part list that included the spring and only rarely have I found a spring or pop riveted tab installed during a TAC.
> 
> Harry Elam
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive
> 
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net

From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct 23 09:17:23 2023
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 11:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master cylinder
In-Reply-To: <1663010168.487033.1698029572907@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <AAA7BCEE-E460-42C4-A178-8BEDB5834A5B@elams.org>
 <1663010168.487033.1698029572907@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hZq9rE-WTcs=Fujfgvd-iyT-jV4PgkXDZ35-J9Mq_Czww@mail.gmail.com>

B382001570 came with a spring

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:52?PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I have it on good authority(Paul Reisentz) that Tigers never came with the
> return spring.
>
> When I bought B94790622 in 1971 it already had one.
>
> If you don't have a return spring, you have a self-adjusting clutch which
> IIRC the shop manual says
> it is..?
> Mine has a hole punched in the frame rail for the spring, no tab, rivets
> or anything.  My spring is
> much lighter than the ones Paul used to install but has always worked fine
> for me.
> Gary
>
>
>
> > On 10/21/2023 12:16 PM PDT H B Elam via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On both B382002021 & B382000471 there was 1) a hole on the clutch
> actuating arm and 2) a tab pop riveted to the driver side frame rail with a
> suitable sized hole. The two allowed an external spring to be connected
> between them to assist in fully returning the piston to the fully returned
> position against the piston dome.
> > B382002027 came with the spring and was never any problem.
> >
> > B382000471 did not have the spring and had a screaming throw out bearing
> when the clutch was engaged on the entire trip in 1983 from Arizona to
> Virginia. Without determining the cause, I replaced the throw out bearing
> while doing other engine work. Years later in 1991 on a vacation trip the
> bearing began screaming again. This time I remembered the spring and found
> a suitable replacement. To date there has never been another problem in
> another 20K miles driving.
> >
> > I have official parts listing books for all Tigers. I am also TAC
> inspector #37. Never have I found a part list that included the spring and
> only rarely have I found a spring or pop riveted tab installed during a TAC.
> >
> > Harry Elam
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
> >
> > Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers
> http://autox.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231023/837b434c/attachment.htm>

From rollright at aol.com  Tue Oct 24 11:23:44 2023
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 17:23:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Side trim installation instructions complete with pictures
References: <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all,
?I bought my Mk1A back in 1976. When purchased, it had? a fresh paint job with no side trim at all .?I want to take care of that issue, and to that end I've got:1-trim2-fixing "clips"3-Rick's instruction for trim/clip installation4-Dr. Ron Fraser's dimensions?I'm asking help in locating an article (maybe TE/AE newsletter), covering this installation with color pictures.I "saved" it but now lost it.?Can anyone help?? TIA !Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231024/69add919/attachment.htm>

From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 24 12:08:23 2023
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:08:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Side trim installation instructions complete with
 pictures
In-Reply-To: <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1361823013.1565802.1698170903413@mail.yahoo.com>

 Ok, we can do the cross hatch pattern orange.

    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:32:20 AM PDT, James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hello all,
?I bought my Mk1A back in 1976. When purchased, it had? a fresh paint job with no side trim at all .?I want to take care of that issue, and to that end I've got:1-trim2-fixing "clips"3-Rick's instruction for trim/clip installation4-Dr. Ron Fraser's dimensions?I'm asking help in locating an article (maybe TE/AE newsletter), covering this installation with color pictures.I "saved" it but now lost it.?Can anyone help?? TIA !Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763_______________________________________________

tigers at autox.team.net

Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/douglasalyle at yahoo.com


  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231024/bb1a1e24/attachment.htm>

From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 24 13:55:29 2023
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 19:55:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Side trim installation instructions complete with
 pictures
In-Reply-To: <1361823013.1565802.1698170903413@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1698745304.1029900.1698168224472@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1361823013.1565802.1698170903413@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7655201.1623111.1698177329278@mail.yahoo.com>

 Sorry, responded to the wrong email....

    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 12:46:50 PM PDT, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Ok, we can do the cross hatch pattern orange.

    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:32:20 AM PDT, James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hello all,
?I bought my Mk1A back in 1976. When purchased, it had? a fresh paint job with no side trim at all .?I want to take care of that issue, and to that end I've got:1-trim2-fixing "clips"3-Rick's instruction for trim/clip installation4-Dr. Ron Fraser's dimensions?I'm asking help in locating an article (maybe TE/AE newsletter), covering this installation with color pictures.I "saved" it but now lost it.?Can anyone help?? TIA !Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763_______________________________________________

tigers at autox.team.net

Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/douglasalyle at yahoo.com


  _______________________________________________

tigers at autox.team.net

Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/douglasalyle at yahoo.com


  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20231024/1eeb3da3/attachment.htm>