From jliny5 at cox.net Thu Jun 1 10:26:59 2023 From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 12:26:59 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Fire !!! Message-ID: <1F423396-B5C3-44A0-BD37-FA9E2EC7F915@cox.net> ?Jim I believe the old Halon gas extinguishers are no longer available due to EPA restrictions. They have developed a similar product that IS available. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/htr-hg100c It uses ?Halotron? gas whatever that is but operates on the same principle. Different sizes and colors are available from Summit?others also I am sure. Not cheap. I did go with the ELEMENT extinguisher. Tests appear to show it is effective and uses a gas to smother fire?so no mess. More easily stowed and 1/3 the price of the Halotron extinguisher. Also available from Summit. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/efe-el40100?seid=srese1&ppckw=pmax-safety-equipment&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkNHx0r2i_wIViEhyCh0opwAxEAQYASABEgLk3PD_BwE I would shop around. summit price is among highest. Hope this helps. Jim Sent from my iPad > On Jun 1, 2023, at 9:20 AM, JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers wrote: > ?Hello, > I have a Halon extinguisher bottle that is absolutely ancient and I don't trust it. In looking to find the new Halon replacement material bottles, I find myself at a loss and confused. > Summit and JEGS have extinguishers, but I can't find a new Halon-like material from the items they carry. I figure I'd like a 1 kilo or two pound size.Anybody gone down this path recently ? Can you tell me a source and what you came up with? > Maybe someone other that Summit or JEGS ??? > Help please !?Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A 382002083 > LRXFE Code 86 > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jliny5 at cox.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollright at aol.com Thu Jun 1 11:42:36 2023 From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 13:42:36 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Fire !!! In-Reply-To: <1F423396-B5C3-44A0-BD37-FA9E2EC7F915@cox.net> References: <1F423396-B5C3-44A0-BD37-FA9E2EC7F915@cox.net> Message-ID: Very informative Mr. Linder. Thank you very very much. That?s the information I was looking for. Jim Armstrong Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2023, at 12:27 PM, James Lindner wrote: > > ? > ?Jim > > I believe the old Halon gas extinguishers are no longer available due to EPA restrictions. They have developed a similar product that IS available. > > https://www.summitracing.com/parts/htr-hg100c > > It uses ?Halotron? gas whatever that is but operates on the same principle. Different sizes and colors are available from Summit?others also I am sure. Not cheap. > > I did go with the ELEMENT extinguisher. Tests appear to show it is effective and uses a gas to smother fire?so no mess. More easily stowed and 1/3 the price of the Halotron extinguisher. Also available from Summit. > > https://www.summitracing.com/parts/efe-el40100?seid=srese1&ppckw=pmax-safety-equipment&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkNHx0r2i_wIViEhyCh0opwAxEAQYASABEgLk3PD_BwE > > I would shop around. summit price is among highest. > > Hope this helps. > > Jim > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jun 1, 2023, at 9:20 AM, JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers wrote: >>> >> ?Hello, >> I have a Halon extinguisher bottle that is absolutely ancient and I don't trust it. In looking to find the new Halon replacement material bottles, I find myself at a loss and confused. >> Summit and JEGS have extinguishers, but I can't find a new Halon-like material from the items they carry. I figure I'd like a 1 kilo or two pound size.Anybody gone down this path recently ? Can you tell me a source and what you came up with? >> Maybe someone other that Summit or JEGS ??? >> Help please !?Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A 382002083 >> LRXFE Code 86 >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jliny5 at cox.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From e.coiner at cox.net Thu Jun 1 21:48:57 2023 From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner e.coiner) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 20:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tigers] Transmission paint color or bare metal?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1627391758.367004.1685677737799@myemail.cox.net> I have a very late Mk1a. No sign of blue or any paint on case. I have never known Ford to paint a manual trans case. They are coated with a phospate dip and that's it. I have seen a lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO. > On May 30, 2023 at 5:36 PM Clyde Mclaughlin wrote: > > What is the proper color for the trans in a mk1a > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Thu Jun 1 22:33:09 2023 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 00:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Tigers] Transmission paint color or bare metal?? In-Reply-To: <1627391758.367004.1685677737799@myemail.cox.net> References: <1627391758.367004.1685677737799@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <562213100.914851.1685680389127@connect.xfinity.com> I agree, no paint on a top-loader in the Tiger! Gary > On 06/01/2023 8:48 PM PDT e.coiner e.coiner wrote: > > > > I have a very late Mk1a. No sign of blue or any paint on case. > > I have never known Ford to paint a manual trans case. They are coated with a phospate dip and that's it. > > I have seen a lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO. > > > On May 30, 2023 at 5:36 PM Clyde Mclaughlin wrote: > > > > What is the proper color for the trans in a mk1a > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbsyv at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 22:43:13 2023 From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim B) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 21:43:13 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Transmission paint color or bare metal?? In-Reply-To: <1627391758.367004.1685677737799@myemail.cox.net> References: <1627391758.367004.1685677737799@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <727A5B6F-C484-455D-B912-0CA323F6227E@yahoo.com> The only aluminum case transmissions that I?ve seen painted were done during a rebuild. Never seen one painted from the factory. Cast iron was a different story. > On Jun 1, 2023, at 8:48 PM, e.coiner e.coiner wrote: > > I have a very late Mk1a. No sign of blue or any paint on case. > > I have never known Ford to paint a manual trans case. They are coated with a phospate dip and that's it. > > I have seen a lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO. > >> On May 30, 2023 at 5:36 PM Clyde Mclaughlin wrote: >> >> What is the proper color for the trans in a mk1a >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Fri Jun 2 09:04:18 2023 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:04:18 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Transmission paint color or bare metal?? In-Reply-To: <727A5B6F-C484-455D-B912-0CA323F6227E@yahoo.com> References: <1627391758.367004.1685677737799@myemail.cox.net> <727A5B6F-C484-455D-B912-0CA323F6227E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901d99563$82e559b0$88b00d10$@bluefrog.com> We have to remember that the Tiger engine is a Ford Export engine. If Rootes wanted the transmission painted, Ford would paint it. I?m no expert on this subject, we need owner observations to clarify. I would think transmission painted would be called out somewhere in the order records for the engines. I have some pictures of painted transmissions but no context to explain original or painted by a previous owner. 1 T15KL engine ? trans looks black to me but so does the bellhousing 2 G13KA engine ? trans looks black ? engine looks untouched 3 B19KC engine Fall build ? trans has some blue Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Jim B via Tigers Sent: Friday, June 02, 2023 12:43 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission paint color or bare metal?? The only aluminum case transmissions that I?ve seen painted were done during a rebuild. Never seen one painted from the factory. Cast iron was a different story. On Jun 1, 2023, at 8:48 PM, e.coiner e.coiner > wrote: I have a very late Mk1a. No sign of blue or any paint on case. I have never known Ford to paint a manual trans case. They are coated with a phospate dip and that's it. I have seen a lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO. On May 30, 2023 at 5:36 PM Clyde Mclaughlin > wrote: What is the proper color for the trans in a mk1a _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 11.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 36705 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Sat Jun 3 07:03:32 2023 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2023 09:03:32 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] AF 14 & AF202 Message-ID: <000301d9961b$ce099c40$6a1cd4c0$@bluefrog.com> I'm looking for information about AF14 and AF202. They are the AF Tigers with Automatic transmission. Thanks Ron Fraser -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 07:11:58 2023 From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2023 09:11:58 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Time is Running Out! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Drive mine weekly On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 7:46 PM Stu via Tigers wrote: > Know what week it is? Yes, it's British Car Week! Have you had your > Sunbeam out for a drive yet? Better go soon, Sunday's the last day. > > I had the Tiger out for a half hour or so cruise last Saturday to > start the week off, then stopped at a "Cars and Coffee" gathering on Sunday > morning. Did you take yours anywhere interesting? > > So get your Sunbeam out and DRIVE IT! NOW! NOW! Before it's too late! > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 19:44:50 2023 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2023 20:44:50 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Time is Running Out! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Drove mine to the Fredericksburg TX Car Fest today. Spreading the gospel of Sunbeam Tigers to a world of Corvettes and Mustangs. On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 8:52 AM Clyde Mclaughlin wrote: > Drive mine weekly > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 7:46 PM Stu via Tigers wrote: > >> Know what week it is? Yes, it's British Car Week! Have you had your >> Sunbeam out for a drive yet? Better go soon, Sunday's the last day. >> >> I had the Tiger out for a half hour or so cruise last Saturday to >> start the week off, then stopped at a "Cars and Coffee" gathering on Sunday >> morning. Did you take yours anywhere interesting? >> >> So get your Sunbeam out and DRIVE IT! NOW! NOW! 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URL: From rollright at aol.com Mon Jun 5 07:24:37 2023 From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 09:24:37 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Vredestein sprint classic 13 inch References: <3C030BB6-086E-4FE2-AC40-BBDA3413E728.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <3C030BB6-086E-4FE2-AC40-BBDA3413E728@aol.com> After being out of print for sometime. I just noticed the Tire Rack ad in the July issue of Classic Motorsports, that the 185/70R 13 ? Sprint Classic Is back in print. It?s been out of print now for sometime and it is back, joining its friends in the 14 and 15 inch categories. Jim Armstrong Sent from my iPhone From coolvt at aol.com Mon Jun 5 19:52:27 2023 From: coolvt at aol.com (M Lafayette) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 01:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Non Tiger- Poor assumption References: <28771348.185607.1686016347498.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28771348.185607.1686016347498@mail.yahoo.com> If you do? maintenance or repairs on your car there might be a lesson here on making assumptions.A few years back I was leaving a car show after being a spectator. When walking to my car I noticed a guy on the edge of the flea market struggling with one of those collapsible type canopy structures.? This is the type that you've seen dozens of times. Metal frame that collapses or expands and then is covered with a vinyl type material to form a tent like device of 8, 10 or 12 sq.ft.?? I could see he was in trouble so I offered to help. I explained that I had one almost exactly like his and should be no trouble for us. Since I was the supposed tent expert he listened to my instructions as i told him to pull here or push there.?We struggled for 8 or 10 minutes, seemed to make progress and then? were noticeably farther behind.? I finally told him.? "This is very strange.? I've put one of these up many, many times? and never had this much trouble."? ? His answer, "Put it up,? I'm trying to take it down!" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walmenke at bigpond.net.au Sun Jun 11 19:19:33 2023 From: walmenke at bigpond.net.au (Wally Menke) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:19:33 +1000 Subject: [Tigers] new Halon replacement extinguishers In-Reply-To: <778933650.2727524.1685569263228@mail.yahoo.com> References: <778933650.2727524.1685569263228.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <778933650.2727524.1685569263228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017b01d99ccb$f2e57b40$d8b071c0$@bigpond.net.au> Hi Jim In a previous life in the mid to late 70s 8-) I used to be involved in the design of fire extinguishers. Halon or BCF (Bromo di Chloro Floromethane from memory) was used extensively for extinguishers and also fixed systems in computer rooms where CO2 was used. These were the days when even a small computers were the size of a phone box. They were great as they left no residual after use, whereas a powder type leaves a lot of the powder which is corrosive. However, it was band ages ago when they found that it eats ozone and depletes the ozone layer! Which was a good move especially for us living in the southern hemisphere which is most effected. So in short, it?s unlikely that you will find any Halon fire extinguisher on the market now. Cheers Wally Menke Melbourne, Australia From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2023 7:41 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] new Halon replacement extinguishers Hello, I have a Halon extinguisher bottle that is absolutely ancient and I don't trust it In looking to find the new Halon replacement material bottles, I find myself at a loss and confused. Summit and JEGS have extinguishers, but I can't find a new Halon-like material from the items they carry. I figure I'd like a 1 kilo or two pound size. Anybody gone down this path recently ? Can you tell me a source and what you came up with? Maybe someone other that Summit or JEGS ? Help please ! 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Then I install my proprietary crystal-controlled microprocessor board that influences the original mechanism to keep accurate time.? Your clock looks, sounds and is set the way it originally was.? It will also work with either battery polarity and start itself when power is applied.? If necessary, I can also do minor cosmetic improvements like painting hands or buffing the plastic lens while it is apart.? The cost is $100 each, which includes return postage.? Package your clocks securely so they don't get damaged in transit, and send them with a check to 418 Whig Lane, Glassboro, NJ 08028. My Jag collection is the result of buying cars and never selling them.? I got the first one over 50 years ago. Mike Eck '51 XK120, '55 XK140SE, '60 MK IX, '61 MK2 M/OD, '72 E-Type www.jaguarclock.comSent from my Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sunbeams at sc.rr.com Mon Jun 12 13:07:34 2023 From: sunbeams at sc.rr.com (Eric Gibeaut) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:07:34 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] fire extinguishers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003f01d99d61$25a8fa80$70faef80$@rr.com> Today's Topics: 1. Re: new Halon replacement extinguishers (Wally Menke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:19:33 +1000 From: "Wally Menke" To: "'James Armstrong'" , Subject: Re: [Tigers] new Halon replacement extinguishers Message-ID: <017b01d99ccb$f2e57b40$d8b071c0$@bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Jim In a previous life in the mid to late 70s 8-) I used to be involved in the design of fire extinguishers. Halon or BCF (Bromo di Chloro Floromethane from memory) was used extensively for extinguishers and also fixed systems in computer rooms where CO2 was used. These were the days when even a small computers were the size of a phone box. They were great as they left no residual after use, whereas a powder type leaves a lot of the powder which is corrosive. However, it was band ages ago when they found that it eats ozone and depletes the ozone layer! Which was a good move especially for us living in the southern hemisphere which is most effected. So in short, it?s unlikely that you will find any Halon fire extinguisher on the market now. Cheers Wally Menke Melbourne, Australia From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2023 7:41 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] new Halon replacement extinguishers Pegasus Racing sells non Halon extinguishers but not cheap! https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=2480 Hello, I have a Halon extinguisher bottle that is absolutely ancient and I don't trust it In looking to find the new Halon replacement material bottles, I find myself at a loss and confused. Summit and JEGS have extinguishers, but I can't find a new Halon-like material from the items they carry. I figure I'd like a 1 kilo or two pound size. Anybody gone down this path recently ? Can you tell me a source and what you came up with? Maybe someone other that Summit or JEGS ? Help please ! Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE Code 86 TAC # 0763 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Coming back from a little drive, I could clearly hear some extra clattering coming from under the hood. A quick listen with the hood up seemed to lay the blame with the generator, but we had people coming shortly, no time to check more. A confirmation drive this evening confirmed it. Once warmed up, the generator gets real noisy. It is generating just fine, I have both a voltmeter and an ammeter to prove it. The current generator is a rebuilt unit I got from Napa in 2010 ( It's actually the second from then, the first having a brush shatter after just a couple hundred mules). But I only have a few thousand miles on it since then. I want to buy a replacement and swap the core. Rock Auto claims to have them (look under old Mustangs), but are there any other sources that you guys could recommend? I have events I want to drive it to on June 24/25 so I need quick service. Thanks Stu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Stu Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 7:42 PM To: Tiger Net Subject: [Tigers] Generator Issue When I first got the Tiger out this spring, I commented to my daughter that I was surprised that it seemed to be running fine, She said See? You shouldn't be so pessimistic. I replied that though it's running fine now, it's just because it has yet to reveal how it's going to GET me this year. Well, Sunday it did. Coming back from a little drive, I could clearly hear some extra clattering coming from under the hood. A quick listen with the hood up seemed to lay the blame with the generator, but we had people coming shortly, no time to check more. A confirmation drive this evening confirmed it. Once warmed up, the generator gets real noisy. It is generating just fine, I have both a voltmeter and an ammeter to prove it. The current generator is a rebuilt unit I got from Napa in 2010 ( It's actually the second from then, the first having a brush shatter after just a couple hundred mules). But I only have a few thousand miles on it since then. I want to buy a replacement and swap the core. Rock Auto claims to have them (look under old Mustangs), but are there any other sources that you guys could recommend? I have events I want to drive it to on June 24/25 so I need quick service. Thanks Stu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 20:18:09 2023 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Smiths Clocks In-Reply-To: <1149621822.3464228.1686593668542@verizon.net> References: <1149621822.3464228.1686593668542@verizon.net> Message-ID: Now I just need to find a clock. On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 2:28 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: > I had two Smiths clocks that of course didn't work. Searching the web for > a repair service I came across an 11 year old thread on the SAOCA forum. > It mentioned a Mike Eck that repaired them. Even being such an old thread, > I figured I'd contact him. He is a Jaguar collector and still provides the > repair service. I received both clocks back and they tick like they should > as soon as power is applied. Here is the email I received from him. > > Hi Jim, > > It sounds like you are into Sunbeams. As for my service, I disassemble > the clock, ultrasonically clean it and properly lubricate it. Then I > install my proprietary crystal-controlled microprocessor board that > influences the original mechanism to keep accurate time. Your clock looks, > sounds and is set the way it originally was. It will also work with either > battery polarity and start itself when power is applied. If necessary, I > can also do minor cosmetic improvements like painting hands or buffing the > plastic lens while it is apart. The cost is $100 each, which includes > return postage. Package your clocks securely so they don't get damaged in > transit, and send them with a check to 418 Whig Lane, Glassboro, NJ 08028. > > > My Jag collection is the result of buying cars and never selling them. I > got the first one over 50 years ago. > > Mike Eck > '51 XK120, '55 XK140SE, '60 MK IX, '61 MK2 M/OD, '72 E-Type > www.jaguarclock.com > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbbrown1980 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at cthompson.net Mon Jun 12 20:19:36 2023 From: chris at cthompson.net (chris cthompson.net) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 02:19:36 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] Smiths Clocks In-Reply-To: <1149621822.3464228.1686593668542@verizon.net> References: <1149621822.3464228.1686593668542@verizon.net> Message-ID: I just got my clock back from Mike, too. He let me know my face was not correct for a MK1a and he had somebody who could make the correct one if I didn?t mind waiting. I didn?t mind waiting, it came back looking and running like new. Highly recommended. Chris B382000331 From: Tigers On Behalf Of Jim D'Amelio via Tigers Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 2:14 PM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Smiths Clocks I had two Smiths clocks that of course didn't work. Searching the web for a repair service I came across an 11 year old thread on the SAOCA forum. It mentioned a Mike Eck that repaired them. Even being such an old thread, I figured I'd contact him. He is a Jaguar collector and still provides the repair service. I received both clocks back and they tick like they should as soon as power is applied. Here is the email I received from him. Hi Jim, It sounds like you are into Sunbeams. As for my service, I disassemble the clock, ultrasonically clean it and properly lubricate it. Then I install my proprietary crystal-controlled microprocessor board that influences the original mechanism to keep accurate time. Your clock looks, sounds and is set the way it originally was. It will also work with either battery polarity and start itself when power is applied. If necessary, I can also do minor cosmetic improvements like painting hands or buffing the plastic lens while it is apart. The cost is $100 each, which includes return postage. Package your clocks securely so they don't get damaged in transit, and send them with a check to 418 Whig Lane, Glassboro, NJ 08028. My Jag collection is the result of buying cars and never selling them. I got the first one over 50 years ago. Mike Eck '51 XK120, '55 XK140SE, '60 MK IX, '61 MK2 M/OD, '72 E-Type www.jaguarclock.com Sent from my Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at cthompson.net Tue Jun 13 06:33:45 2023 From: chris at cthompson.net (chris cthompson.net) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:33:45 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] Smiths Clocks In-Reply-To: References: <1149621822.3464228.1686593668542@verizon.net> Message-ID: They?re not cheap, but they seem to always be available on ebay. You might also try contacting Mike to see if he knows of any that are bargains?. From: Tigers On Behalf Of Joe Brown via Tigers Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:18 PM To: Jim D'Amelio Cc: Tiger Group Subject: Re: [Tigers] Smiths Clocks Now I just need to find a clock. On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 2:28 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers > wrote: I had two Smiths clocks that of course didn't work. Searching the web for a repair service I came across an 11 year old thread on the SAOCA forum. It mentioned a Mike Eck that repaired them. Even being such an old thread, I figured I'd contact him. He is a Jaguar collector and still provides the repair service. I received both clocks back and they tick like they should as soon as power is applied. Here is the email I received from him. Hi Jim, It sounds like you are into Sunbeams. As for my service, I disassemble the clock, ultrasonically clean it and properly lubricate it. Then I install my proprietary crystal-controlled microprocessor board that influences the original mechanism to keep accurate time. Your clock looks, sounds and is set the way it originally was. It will also work with either battery polarity and start itself when power is applied. If necessary, I can also do minor cosmetic improvements like painting hands or buffing the plastic lens while it is apart. The cost is $100 each, which includes return postage. Package your clocks securely so they don't get damaged in transit, and send them with a check to 418 Whig Lane, Glassboro, NJ 08028. My Jag collection is the result of buying cars and never selling them. I got the first one over 50 years ago. Mike Eck '51 XK120, '55 XK140SE, '60 MK IX, '61 MK2 M/OD, '72 E-Type www.jaguarclock.com Sent from my Galaxy _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbbrown1980 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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UK sun is not up to it. > > Definitely cleaned them well and improved the yellowing but not back to new. > > I didn't think it would be miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement. > > I could have done something better with my time but it was fun to try. > > > > > On Wed, 14 June 2023, 4:13 am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, > wrote: >> Anyone have suggestions or success on Clea ing these up. 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URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 20:35:56 2023 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:35:56 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Plastic water bottle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In case the text came blacked out for anyone else, here it is: .To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide method. I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of the plastic then dipped them. Could have used some Californian sun as UV is the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it. Definitely cleaned them well and improved the yellowing but not back to new. I didn't think it would be miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement. I could have done something better with my time but it was fun to try. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 6:48?PM michael king wrote: > This is from Oliver B in the UK... > > > > > > > > > > > > *..To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare > washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide > method.I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of > the plastic then dipped them.Could have used some Californian sun as UV is > the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it.Definitely cleaned them well > and improved the yellowing but not back to new.I didn't think it would be > miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement.I could have done > something better with my time but it was fun to try.* > > > > > On Wed, 14 June 2023, 4:13 am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, < > tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Anyone have suggestions or success on Clea ing these up. Mine is looking >> ruff. >> >> LanceBeauchamp 9470951 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blance598 at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 07:05:29 2023 From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:05:29 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Plastic water bottle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the tip! Beau On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 10:36 PM Jay Laifman wrote: > In case the text came blacked out for anyone else, here it is: > > > > .To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare washer > bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide method. > > > > I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of the > plastic then dipped them. > > > > Could have used some Californian sun as UV is the key when they soak. UK > sun is not up to it. > > > > Definitely cleaned them well and improved the yellowing but not back to > new. > > > > I didn't think it would be miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of > improvement. > > > > I could have done something better with my time but it was fun to try. > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 6:48?PM michael king > wrote: > >> This is from Oliver B in the UK... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *..To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare >> washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide >> method.I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of >> the plastic then dipped them.Could have used some Californian sun as UV is >> the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it.Definitely cleaned them well >> and improved the yellowing but not back to new.I didn't think it would be >> miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement.I could have done >> something better with my time but it was fun to try.* >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 14 June 2023, 4:13 am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, < >> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Anyone have suggestions or success on Clea ing these up. 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Re: Plastic water bottle (Jay Laifman) ? 3. Re: Plastic water bottle (Lance Beauchamp) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:54:50 -0700 From: Jim B To: michael king , "tigers at autox.team.net" ??? Subject: Re: [Tigers] Plastic water bottle Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Love it Michael! Mine looks like many or the examples, Which in all honesty, I?m fine with. If I had an extra, I?d properly try mineral spirits. Just a thought. Jim B > On Jun 13, 2023, at 6:36 PM, michael king wrote: > > This is from Oliver B in the UK... > > ..To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide method. > > I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of the plastic then dipped them. > > Could have used some Californian sun as UV is the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it. > > Definitely cleaned them well and improved the yellowing but not back to new. > > I didn't think it would be miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement. > > I could have done something better with my time but it was fun to try. > > > > > On Wed, 14 June 2023, 4:13 am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, > wrote: >> Anyone? have suggestions or success on Clea ing these up. Mine is looking ruff. >> >>? ? 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In case the text came blacked out for anyone else, here it is: .To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide method. I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of the plastic then dipped them. Could have used some Californian sun as UV is the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it. Definitely cleaned them well and improved the yellowing but not back to new. I didn't think it would be miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement. I could have done something better with my time but it was fun to try. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 6:48?PM michael king wrote: > This is from Oliver B in the UK... > > > > > > > > > > > > *..To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare > washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide > method.I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of > the plastic then dipped them.Could have used some Californian sun as UV is > the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it.Definitely cleaned them well > and improved the yellowing but not back to new.I didn't think it would be > miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement.I could have done > something better with my time but it was fun to try.* > > > > > On Wed, 14 June 2023, 4:13 am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, < > tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Anyone? have suggestions or success on Clea ing these up. Mine is looking >> ruff. >> >>? ? LanceBeauchamp 9470951 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:05:29 -0400 From: Lance Beauchamp To: Jay Laifman Cc: michael king ,? "Tiger Club. Submission" ??? Subject: Re: [Tigers] Plastic water bottle Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for the tip!? ? Beau On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 10:36 PM Jay Laifman wrote: > In case the text came blacked out for anyone else, here it is: > > > > .To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare washer > bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide method. > > > > I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of the > plastic then dipped them. > > > > Could have used some Californian sun as UV is the key when they soak. UK > sun is not up to it. > > > > Definitely cleaned them well and improved the yellowing but not back to > new. > > > > I didn't think it would be miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of > improvement. > > > > I could have done something better with my time but it was fun to try. > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 6:48?PM michael king > wrote: > >> This is from Oliver B in the UK... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *..To use up some of my life I thought I'd try do clean up some spare >> washer bottles. These go yellow so I tried the Oxi-boost and hydro-peroxide >> method.I used plastic softener to get the deep grained oil and crud out of >> the plastic then dipped them.Could have used some Californian sun as UV is >> the key when they soak. UK sun is not up to it.Definitely cleaned them well >> and improved the yellowing but not back to new.I didn't think it would be >> miraculous but I wanted to see the degree of improvement.I could have done >> something better with my time but it was fun to try.* >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 14 June 2023, 4:13 am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, < >> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Anyone? have suggestions or success on Clea ing these up. Mine is >>> looking ruff. >>> >>>? ? 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Jim Armstrong I 382002083 Sent from my iPhone From owain.lloyd at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 10:30:55 2023 From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:30:55 +0200 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 114, water bottle In-Reply-To: <6B305B69-1016-4E88-AD41-16225BB149B0@aol.com> References: <6B305B69-1016-4E88-AD41-16225BB149B0.ref@aol.com> <6B305B69-1016-4E88-AD41-16225BB149B0@aol.com> Message-ID: tudor? they are available as reproductions. why not just replace it? On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 6:25?PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > Sounds great for the bottles that have the embossed rootes emblem. But > what about the ones that are painted with the word tutor on them? > Any thoughts anybody? > > Jim Armstrong > I 382002083 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blance598 at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 16:31:59 2023 From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:31:59 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 116 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Your trying to save a repro, really? On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 2:03 PM wrote: > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 114, water bottle > (JAMES ARMSTRONG) > 2. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 114, water bottle (Owain Lloyd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:55:56 -0400 > From: JAMES ARMSTRONG > To: Tiger's Den > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 114, water bottle > Message-ID: <6B305B69-1016-4E88-AD41-16225BB149B0 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sounds great for the bottles that have the embossed rootes emblem. But > what about the ones that are painted with the word tutor on them? > Any thoughts anybody? > > Jim Armstrong > I 382002083 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:30:55 +0200 > From: Owain Lloyd > To: JAMES ARMSTRONG > Cc: "Tiger's Den" > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 114, water bottle > Message-ID: > nuOqNst0M_zn8CgmdP6Snb+x-j++SgA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > tudor? they are available as reproductions. why not just replace it? > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 6:25?PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers < > tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Sounds great for the bottles that have the embossed rootes emblem. But > > what about the ones that are painted with the word tutor on them? > > Any thoughts anybody? > > > > Jim Armstrong > > I 382002083 > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd at gmail.com > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20230614/2e612a21/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 116 > *************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maliburevue at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 09:56:56 2023 From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 15:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Smiths Clocks In-Reply-To: References: <1149621822.3464228.1686593668542@verizon.net> Message-ID: <128786730.459712.1686844616775@mail.yahoo.com> What are they selling for nowadays, new, used, MKI, MKIA/MKII? On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 06:34:32 AM MDT, chris cthompson.net via Tigers wrote: They?re not cheap, but they seem to always be available on ebay.? You might also try contacting Mike to see if he knows of any that are bargains?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Fri Jun 23 11:11:05 2023 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:11:05 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] wheel info Message-ID: <001001d9a5f5$b48a66c0$1d9f3440$@bluefrog.com> Interesting share - it's the little details we need to see and share. I found this on the inside of an Alpine wheel - part # 1214930 - date code 64 SANKEY I also see what looks like 4 X 13 and there could be other print under the paint. Ron Fraser -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_5443.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 359647 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 13:01:27 2023 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:01:27 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter Message-ID: Does anybody know of an aftermarket cigarette lighter that will fit the hole in the dash? I've looked at several and they are all too small for the existing hole. I want to add one so I can charge up a phone when needed. Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimdamelio at verizon.net Mon Jun 26 15:49:53 2023 From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (Jim D'Amelio) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:49:53 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <913242735.5132996.1687816194882@verizon.net> Joe,This Victor lighter on eBay should fit if the hole in your dash is stock.? EBay # 264299770378Jim DSent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Joe Brown Date: 6/26/23 5:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Tigers at autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter Does anybody know of an aftermarket cigarette lighter that will fit the hole in the dash?? I've looked at several and they are all too small for the existing hole.? I want to add one so I can charge up a phone when needed.Thanks,Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 15:58:31 2023 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 16:58:31 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter In-Reply-To: <913242735.5132996.1687816194882@verizon.net> References: <913242735.5132996.1687816194882@verizon.net> Message-ID: I see that my local AutoZone stocks this lighter. I will have to go there and measure the diameter to see if it will fit the dash opening. All of the ones I've looked at before would just fall through the hole. I guess I could wrap something around the lighter to make it fit tight in the hole but I'm hoping to find something that actually fits. Thanks, Joe On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:49?PM Jim D'Amelio wrote: > Joe, > > This Victor lighter on eBay should fit if the hole in your dash is stock. > EBay # 264299770378 > > Jim D > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Joe Brown > Date: 6/26/23 5:35 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: "Tigers at autox.team.net" > Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter > > Does anybody know of an aftermarket cigarette lighter that will fit the > hole in the dash? I've looked at several and they are all too small for > the existing hole. I want to add one so I can charge up a phone when > needed. > > Thanks, > Joe Brown > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 26 18:43:13 2023 From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter In-Reply-To: <913242735.5132996.1687816194882@verizon.net> References: <913242735.5132996.1687816194882@verizon.net> Message-ID: <540015887.3094656.1687826593086@mail.yahoo.com> All the 1960s, 1970s lighters have the same size socket/reciprocal. You need one with an extra outer ring, like this lighted one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/334609426965 David Franchi Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Joe Brown Date: 6/26/23 5:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Tigers at autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Cigarette Lighter Does anybody know of an aftermarket cigarette lighter that will fit the hole in the dash?? I've looked at several and they are all too small for the existing hole.? I want to add one so I can charge up a phone when needed. 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