From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  1 23:56:23 2023
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 06:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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Happy New Year everyone,
I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.
Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
 B382001212LRXFE
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 00:42:26 2023
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 15:42:26 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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Brian,

That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.

1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated
and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...

2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them..
But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the sales
images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin
black Would be the first choice...

Just my .02..

Brochure Image attached.

MK



On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Happy New Year everyone,
>
> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
> thermal coated.
>
> Two questions.
> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>
> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
> feedback will be most appreciated.
> Cheers
> B
>
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
>
> B9470208LRXFE GT
> B9471101LRXFE
> B9472615LRXFE
> B382000846LRXFE
> B382001212LRXFE
>


-- 
Regards

Michael King
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From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 07:17:36 2023
From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 09:17:36 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1
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Where are you getting the headers?

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> Happy New Year everyone,
> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
> thermal coated.
> Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating
> the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
> feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
> Brian Glenn
>  P.O. Box 578
>  Julian, CA 92036-0578
>  714.345.9883
>
>  B9470208LRXFE GT
>  B9471101LRXFE
>  B9472615LRXFE
>  B382000846LRXFE
>  B382001212LRXFE
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> From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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> Brian,
>
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
>
> 1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
>
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them..
> But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the sales
> images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin
> black Would be the first choice...
>
> Just my .02..
>
> Brochure Image attached.
>
> MK
>
>
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Happy New Year everyone,
> >
> > I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
> > thermal coated.
> >
> > Two questions.
> > 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
> > 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> >
> > I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
> > feedback will be most appreciated.
> > Cheers
> > B
> >
> > Brian Glenn
> > P.O. Box 578
> > Julian, CA 92036-0578
> > 714.345.9883
> >
> > B9470208LRXFE GT
> > B9471101LRXFE
> > B9472615LRXFE
> > B382000846LRXFE
> > B382001212LRXFE
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
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From rollright at aol.com  Mon Jan  2 09:00:32 2023
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 11:00:32 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1
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Happy new year to all.
There is a technique called metal spray that I had applied to my stock exhaust headers, and it prevents rust without looking strange. I had them coated with stainless steel when my engine was rebuilt, and it?s prevented any rust from occurring. It simply looks like a new metal header, but without any rust. I like it, but I?m not so much an absolute stickler for concourse originality.
Jim Armstrong
Mark 1a B382002083
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> To: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
> Message-ID: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Happy New Year everyone,
> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.
> Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
> 
> B9470208LRXFE GT
> B9471101LRXFE 
> B9472615LRXFE 
> B382000846LRXFE 
> B382001212LRXFE
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> From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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> 
> Brian,
> 
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
> 
> 1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
> 
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them..
> But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the sales
> images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin
> black Would be the first choice...
> 
> Just my .02..
> 
> Brochure Image attached.
> 
> MK
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Happy New Year everyone,
>> 
>> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
>> thermal coated.
>> 
>> Two questions.
>> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
>> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>> 
>> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
>> feedback will be most appreciated.
>> Cheers
>> B
>> 
>> Brian Glenn
>> P.O. Box 578
>> Julian, CA 92036-0578
>> 714.345.9883
>> 
>> B9470208LRXFE GT
>> B9471101LRXFE
>> B9472615LRXFE
>> B382000846LRXFE
>> B382001212LRXFE
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Michael King
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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  2 09:24:27 2023
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:24:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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 <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
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 Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually  satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.
David

    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Brian,
That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??
2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...
Just my .02..
Brochure Image attached.
MK


On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Happy New Year everyone,
I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.
Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
 B382001212LRXFE


-- 
Regards

Michael King
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Jan  2 10:49:02 2023
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 09:49:02 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:  Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?  Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?

 

mayf

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

 

Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.

 

David

 

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com <mailto:michael.s.king at gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Brian,

 

That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.

 

1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...  

 

2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...

 

Just my .02..

 

Brochure Image attached.

 

MK

 



On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Happy New Year everyone,

 

I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.

 

Two questions.

1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?

2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?

 

I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.

Cheers

B

 

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE 
B9472615LRXFE 
B382000846LRXFE 
B382001212LRXFE



-- 
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Michael King

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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Mon Jan  2 11:08:05 2023
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 18:08:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 2
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These are the new CAT offering.? I agree with Michael that the black and white pictures make it hard to tell.?I think I would still use the inner coating if available. The outside in a silver or black as that was in period . Then there is anything applied in period was good for a very limited time before it looked like crap.?I was always taking out the BBQ black hi temp paint on other car's.?

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Where are you getting the headers?

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> Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
> Message-ID: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Happy New Year everyone,
> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
> thermal coated.
> Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating
> the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
> feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
> Brian Glenn
>? P.O. Box 578
>? Julian, CA 92036-0578
>? 714.345.9883
>
>? B9470208LRXFE GT
>? B9471101LRXFE
>? B9472615LRXFE
>? B382000846LRXFE
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> From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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> Brian,
>
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
>
> 1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
>
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them..
> But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales
> images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin
> black Would be the first choice...
>
> Just my .02..
>
> Brochure Image attached.
>
> MK
>
>
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Happy New Year everyone,
> >
> > I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
> > thermal coated.
> >
> > Two questions.
> > 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
> > 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> >
> > I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
> > feedback will be most appreciated.
> > Cheers
> > B
> >
> > Brian Glenn
> > P.O. Box 578
> > Julian, CA 92036-0578
> > 714.345.9883
> >
> > B9470208LRXFE GT
> > B9471101LRXFE
> > B9472615LRXFE
> > B382000846LRXFE
> > B382001212LRXFE
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
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From: JAMES ARMSTRONG <rollright at aol.com>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1
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Happy new year to all.
There is a technique called metal spray that I had applied to my stock exhaust headers, and it prevents rust without looking strange. I had them coated with stainless steel when my engine was rebuilt, and it?s prevented any rust from occurring. It simply looks like a new metal header, but without any rust. I like it, but I?m not so much an absolute stickler for concourse originality.
Jim Armstrong
Mark 1a B382002083
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> From: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
> To: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Happy New Year everyone,
> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.
> Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
> 
> B9470208LRXFE GT
> B9471101LRXFE 
> B9472615LRXFE 
> B382000846LRXFE 
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> From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Brian,
> 
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
> 
> 1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
> 
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them..
> But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales
> images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin
> black Would be the first choice...
> 
> Just my .02..
> 
> Brochure Image attached.
> 
> MK
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Happy New Year everyone,
>> 
>> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
>> thermal coated.
>> 
>> Two questions.
>> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
>> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>> 
>> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
>> feedback will be most appreciated.
>> Cheers
>> B
>> 
>> Brian Glenn
>> P.O. Box 578
>> Julian, CA 92036-0578
>> 714.345.9883
>> 
>> B9470208LRXFE GT
>> B9471101LRXFE
>> B9472615LRXFE
>> B382000846LRXFE
>> B382001212LRXFE
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Michael King
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:24:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>, michael king
??? <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
Message-ID: <1983971840.3034711.1672676667913 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually? satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.
David

? ? On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:? 
 
 Brian,
That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??
2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...
Just my .02..
Brochure Image attached.
MK


On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Happy New Year everyone,
I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.
Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.CheersB
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
 B382001212LRXFE


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Regards

Michael King
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From dnmwilson at aol.com  Mon Jan  2 11:52:32 2023
From: dnmwilson at aol.com (DAVID WILSON)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:52:32 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 2
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You can get the headers from the CAT parts department. Go to the CAT home web page and select parts.  However, a person has to be a CAT member to order from CAT parts.

David

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>   3. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating (D or G at sbc)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 09:17:36 -0500
> From: Clyde Mclaughlin <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com>
> To: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1
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> Where are you getting the headers?
> 

One can get the headers from the CAT Parts Dept., on the CAT home web page. The CAT Parts Dept. sells only to CAT members.

David

From tym2 at comcast.net  Mon Jan  2 13:24:56 2023
From: tym2 at comcast.net (Dr. T. Y. McDowell)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 15:24:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <1983971840.3034711.1672676667913@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <1983971840.3034711.1672676667913@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <141993330.524740.1672691097107@connect.xfinity.com>

I bought the CAT headers and had them ceramic coated.  They still look perfect!

Tym McDowell

>     On 01/02/2023 11:24 AM D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.
> 
>     David
> 
>     On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Brian,
> 
>     That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
> 
>     1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...  
> 
>     2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...
> 
>     Just my .02..
> 
>     Brochure Image attached.
> 
>     MK
> 
> 
> 
>     On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > >         Happy New Year everyone,
> > 
> >         I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.
> > 
> >         Two questions.
> >         1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
> >         2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
> > 
> >         I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.
> >         Cheers
> >         B
> > 
> >         Brian Glenn
> >         P.O. Box 578
> >         Julian, CA 92036-0578
> >         714.345.9883
> > 
> >         B9470208LRXFE GT
> >         B9471101LRXFE
> >         B9472615LRXFE
> >         B382000846LRXFE
> >         B382001212LRXFE
> > 
> >     > 
> 
>     --
>     Regards
> 
>     Michael King
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 14:26:33 2023
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 22:26:33 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <004a01d91ed2$83478c50$89d6a4f0$@mayfco.com>
References: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
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None except the works race cars.
Agree - headers shouldn?t be concours.  That said - I personally would
enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much about
concours points.  And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awesome
and are most effective.  Also period correct for race car headers.

Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.  Let?s make 23 is better than
22 (please!)

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:

> If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:  Did it leave
> the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?
> Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers
> were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because
> they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how
> many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?
>
>
>
> mayf
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *D or G at
> sbc via Tigers
> *Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
> *To:* Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>; michael king <
> michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
>
>
>
> Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period
> were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <
> michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
>
>
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
>
>
>
> 1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
>
>
>
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on
> them.. But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the
> sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a
> satin black Would be the first choice...
>
>
>
> Just my .02..
>
>
>
> Brochure Image attached.
>
>
>
> MK
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Happy New Year everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
> thermal coated.
>
>
>
> Two questions.
>
> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
>
> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>
>
>
> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
> feedback will be most appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> B
>
>
>
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
>
> B9470208LRXFE GT
> B9471101LRXFE
> B9472615LRXFE
> B382000846LRXFE
> B382001212LRXFE
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
>
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Mon Jan  2 15:57:35 2023
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (Jim D'Amelio)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2023 17:57:35 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
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Pictured are new J.C. Whitney headers I purchased 40 years ago. Had them Jet Hot coated for around $400.? Going to install them on the original 260.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/2/23  1:58 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating Happy New Year everyone,I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.Two questions.1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.CheersBBrian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883  B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE  B9472615LRXFE  B382000846LRXFE  B382001212LRXFE
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From dnmwilson at aol.com  Mon Jan  2 15:58:34 2023
From: dnmwilson at aol.com (dnmwilson at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 22:58:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 3 What is Stock?
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Larry,
The only item which was optional from the factory was the removeable hardtop.? My understanding is that the records indicated which of the early Tigers were shipped with a hardtop, but that was not continued later in the run of Tigers.? Using your definition of stock, only those Tiger owners who could document that their hardtop was shipped on their car from the factory coud consider the hardtop to be "stock".? However, Sunbeam recognized that dealers would lose out with only one option, and wanted to provide further revenue stream for their dealers.? So Sunbeam developed the LAT options, almost all of which were manufactured in America.? It did not make sense to ship them to the UK to be installed on the cars only to be shipped back to North America (the main Tiger market).? Furthermore, due to the number of LAT options, dealerships would not like to try to figure out which combinations of them their customers would want on a Tiger sitting on the showroom floor.? It simply made sense for the options to be installed at the dealerships, like the majority of hardtops.? Just like all the parts in the Rootes Parts Manuals, the dealership would be happy to sell the LAT options and the dealer may or may not install the LAT options.
The three major Tiger clubs in the US have all decided that LAT options are considered STOCK.
David


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From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
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??? <ora_archy at yahoo.com>, "'michael king'" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
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If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:? Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?? Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?

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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  2 16:15:57 2023
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 23:15:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iQ5kHRyJ0twLdPbXZYz=Xm8x29f2zQoCE3jVifeDbrJ5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
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 If you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then all LAT options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, wheels, hood, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would all be dealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Performance Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a car. Rootes had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA homologation. Anyone have a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?

David

    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 None except the works race cars. ?Agree - headers shouldn?t be concours.? That said - I personally would enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much about concours points.? And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awesome and are most effective.? Also period correct for race car headers.?
Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.? Let?s make 23 is better than 22 (please!)
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:


If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:? Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?? Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?

?

mayf

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

?

Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.

?

David

?

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote: 

?

?

Brian,

?

That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.

?

1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??

?

2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...

?

Just my .02..

?

Brochure Image attached.

?

MK

?



On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


Happy New Year everyone,

?

I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.

?

Two questions.

1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?

2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?

?

I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.

Cheers

B

?

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE 
B9472615LRXFE 
B382000846LRXFE 
B382001212LRXFE




-- 
Regards

Michael King

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan  2 16:26:53 2023
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 18:26:53 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian,
I would question whether your authentic LAT headers are really authentic.
The original LAT headers, as you can see in the brochure picture, connected
the stock exhaust system via a tight right-angle fitting into the
collectors.  For track use you would remove the block-off plate from the
end of the collector.  For street use the block off plate would stay on and
the exhaust would have to go around the tight right-angle bend.  That setup
was good for the track but really lousy for the street.  I suspect that
your "authentic" headers don't incorporate the right-angle feature and
therefore would fail any authenticity test with flying colors.  As to the
color and finish on the LAT headers, I had LAT headers on my car for some
time and it's my recollection that they were satin black.  The original
color doesn't matter much, though, because the paint burnt off in no time.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 2:42 AM michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
>
> 1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
>
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on
> them.. But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the
> sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a
> satin black Would be the first choice...
>
> Just my .02..
>
> Brochure Image attached.
>
> MK
>
>
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year everyone,
>>
>> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
>> thermal coated.
>>
>> Two questions.
>> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
>> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>>
>> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
>> feedback will be most appreciated.
>> Cheers
>> B
>>
>> Brian Glenn
>> P.O. Box 578
>> Julian, CA 92036-0578
>> 714.345.9883
>>
>> B9470208LRXFE GT
>> B9471101LRXFE
>> B9472615LRXFE
>> B382000846LRXFE
>> B382001212LRXFE
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
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From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  2 17:25:34 2023
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 00:25:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <1806384422.3671346.1672701357250@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <1983971840.3034711.1672676667913@mail.yahoo.com>
 <004a01d91ed2$83478c50$89d6a4f0$@mayfco.com>
 <CANE47iQ5kHRyJ0twLdPbXZYz=Xm8x29f2zQoCE3jVifeDbrJ5g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1806384422.3671346.1672701357250@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1532369226.6361540.1672705534630@mail.yahoo.com>

All,Thanks for all the great input regarding thermal coating and colors.
Another option I'm exploring is installing LAT 27 Tri-Y headers instead.They were originally painted black and silver to distinguish which side to install.Does anyone know how to distinguish them without the paint?How about the down pipes; does anyone have a source or a jig?
The recent articles in the CAT Tiger Tales and TEAE newsletters discussing Port of Entry has a British American Imports sticker for B9471362 that lists eight LAT additions that were installed by Import Autos, Inc. of Jackson, MI.
The Suggested Retail Price included only factory installed options and delivery/handling.?
The Adjusted Total included all options, including LAT.
Cheers,B
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
 B382001212LRXFE 

    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 03:16:04 PM PST, D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net> wrote:  
 
  If you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then all LAT options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, wheels, hood, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would all be dealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Performance Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a car. Rootes had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA homologation. Anyone have a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?

David

    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 None except the works race cars. ?Agree - headers shouldn?t be concours.? That said - I personally would enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much about concours points.? And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awesome and are most effective.? Also period correct for race car headers.?
Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.? Let?s make 23 is better than 22 (please!)
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:


If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:? Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?? Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?

?

mayf

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

?

Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.

?

David

?

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote: 

?

?

Brian,

?

That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.

?

1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??

?

2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...

?

Just my .02..

?

Brochure Image attached.

?

MK

?



On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


Happy New Year everyone,

?

I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.

?

Two questions.

1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?

2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?

?

I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.

Cheers

B

?

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE 
B9472615LRXFE 
B382000846LRXFE 
B382001212LRXFE




-- 
Regards

Michael King

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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Mon Jan  2 20:20:33 2023
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 03:20:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8
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The headers Brian is talking about are a new batch made by CAT as a replica item.? One of the local members had an original set that was reverse engineered. The finish question is a good one given the inclusion of LAT options as written in our United judging guidelines. As I understand it representatives of Sunbeam clubs got together and agreed on guidelines.? I have seen a set and was on the interest list for a set for one of my cars.?A local MK2 has an original set installed but I've never got down low enough to look.?

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? 1. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating (Will Seay)
? 2. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating (Brian Glenn)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 18:26:53 -0500
From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
To: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>, Tigers Den
??? <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
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Brian,
I would question whether your authentic LAT headers are really authentic.
The original LAT headers, as you can see in the brochure picture, connected
the stock exhaust system via a tight right-angle fitting into the
collectors.? For track use you would remove the block-off plate from the
end of the collector.? For street use the block off plate would stay on and
the exhaust would have to go around the tight right-angle bend.? That setup
was good for the track but really lousy for the street.? I suspect that
your "authentic" headers don't incorporate the right-angle feature and
therefore would fail any authenticity test with flying colors.? As to the
color and finish on the LAT headers, I had LAT headers on my car for some
time and it's my recollection that they were satin black.? The original
color doesn't matter much, though, because the paint burnt off in no time.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 2:42 AM michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
>
> 1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
>
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on
> them.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the
> sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a
> satin black Would be the first choice...
>
> Just my .02..
>
> Brochure Image attached.
>
> MK
>
>
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year everyone,
>>
>> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them
>> thermal coated.
>>
>> Two questions.
>> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
>> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>>
>> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
>> feedback will be most appreciated.
>> Cheers
>> B
>>
>> Brian Glenn
>> P.O. Box 578
>> Julian, CA 92036-0578
>> 714.345.9883
>>
>> B9470208LRXFE GT
>> B9471101LRXFE
>> B9472615LRXFE
>> B382000846LRXFE
>> B382001212LRXFE
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
> _______________________________________________
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 00:25:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
To: Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>, Owain Lloyd
??? <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>,? D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>,? michael king
??? <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
Message-ID: <1532369226.6361540.1672705534630 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

All,Thanks for all the great input regarding thermal coating and colors.
Another option I'm exploring is installing LAT 27 Tri-Y headers instead.They were originally painted black and silver to distinguish which side to install.Does anyone know how to distinguish them without the paint?How about the down pipes; does anyone have a source or a jig?
The recent articles in the CAT Tiger Tales and TEAE newsletters discussing Port of Entry has a British American Imports sticker for B9471362 that lists eight LAT additions that were installed by Import Autos, Inc. of Jackson, MI.
The Suggested Retail Price included only factory installed options and delivery/handling.?
The Adjusted Total included all options, including LAT.
Cheers,B
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
 B382001212LRXFE 

? ? On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 03:16:04 PM PST, D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net> wrote:? 
 
? If you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then all LAT options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, wheels, hood, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would all be dealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Performance Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a car. Rootes had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA homologation. Anyone have a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?

David

? ? On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:? 
 
 None except the works race cars. ?Agree - headers shouldn?t be concours.? That said - I personally would enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much about concours points.? And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awesome and are most effective.? Also period correct for race car headers.?
Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.? Let?s make 23 is better than 22 (please!)
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:


If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:? Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?? Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?

?

mayf

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

?

Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.

?

David

?

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote: 

?

?

Brian,

?

That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.

?

1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??

?

2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...

?

Just my .02..

?

Brochure Image attached.

?

MK

?



On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


Happy New Year everyone,

?

I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.

?

Two questions.

1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?

2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?

?

I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.

Cheers

B

?

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE 
B9472615LRXFE 
B382000846LRXFE 
B382001212LRXFE




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Regards

Michael King

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From MTaylor at ea.com  Tue Jan  3 09:13:41 2023
From: MTaylor at ea.com (Taylor, Matthew)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 16:13:41 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
In-Reply-To: <1806384422.3671346.1672701357250@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1187341543.6361278.1672642583277.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <CAET8snWUWvw_u8W3UxkhX84Mcu4gEG-hExcgu+Ngn6C4frip2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <1983971840.3034711.1672676667913@mail.yahoo.com>
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All of the LAT factory options were allowed in SCCA in 1965 and were perfectly legal then.  After the Tiger did so well (and would have won the championship if not for Chevy), the big manufacturers protested and then they were not allowed in 1966.  Additionally, the LAT factory options were allowed in the stock classes in the AHRA at least through 1967, but not in the NHRA.

Matthew

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 3:16 PM
To: Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>; Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

If you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then all LAT options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, wheels, hood, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would all be dealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Performance Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a car. Rootes had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA homologation. Anyone have a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?

David

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com<mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com>> wrote:


None except the works race cars.
Agree - headers shouldn't be concours.  That said - I personally would enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much about concours points.  And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awesome and are most effective.  Also period correct for race car headers.

Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.  Let's make 23 is better than 22 (please!)

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com<mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>> wrote:

If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:  Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?  Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?



mayf



From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy at yahoo.com<mailto:ora_archy at yahoo.com>>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com<mailto:michael.s.king at gmail.com>>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating



Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.



David



On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com<mailto:michael.s.king at gmail.com>> wrote:





Brian,



That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.



1.  My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports..  It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot...  If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...



2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure..  And..  Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...



Just my .02..



Brochure Image attached.



MK




On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Happy New Year everyone,



I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.



Two questions.

1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?

2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?



I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.

Cheers

B



Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE


--
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Michael King
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From lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 13 22:54:22 2023
From: lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com (Derrick Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2023 05:54:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] =?utf-8?q?Rick=E2=80=99s_3_point_seat_belts?=
References: <702856828.1324555.1673675662771.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <702856828.1324555.1673675662771@mail.yahoo.com>

Arrived today, long weekend, wanted to put them in. Not clear to me which end goes in which direction. Done some Dr. Googling but nothing specific found so far.?
Any guidance who single handed Lu is resolving the CA drought because his Tiger is drivable for the first time in 27 years?
My former English teacher daughter would be mortified with my composition but my thumbs are not ?talented enough to transcribe what my brain wants to convey.?
Derrick


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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Sat Jan 14 09:26:03 2023
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:26:03 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] =?utf-8?q?Rick=E2=80=99s_3_point_seat_belts?=
In-Reply-To: <702856828.1324555.1673675662771@mail.yahoo.com>
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I have no experience, but if you Google "Sunbeam Tiger Seatbelt" there 
are some images that might be helpful.

As to ending the California drought I take some credit for that too. I 
was just starting to fabricate and replace the floors in my un-garaged 
Corvair station wagon..., and the precipitation began. More than 
coincidence in my book. :-)

On 1/13/2023 9:54 PM, Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote:
> Arrived today, long weekend, wanted to put them in. Not clear to me 
> which end goes in which direction. Done some Dr. Googling but nothing 
> specific found so far.
>
> Any guidance who single handed Lu is resolving the CA drought because 
> his Tiger is drivable for the first time in 27 years?
>
> My former English teacher daughter would be mortified with my 
> composition but my thumbs are not ?talented enough to transcribe what 
> my brain wants to convey.
>
> Derrick
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
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From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 11:42:45 2023
From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:42:45 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Front exhaust down pipes for stock manifolds
Message-ID: <CAF6p=0B_+c_0McPx6ODCkdTGG53N=DXNtwXo36v7L6ouSd=5VQ@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone found a supplier for front down pipes?
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From tkparker1941 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 14:27:00 2023
From: tkparker1941 at gmail.com (Tom Parker)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:27:00 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Front exhaust down pipes for stock manifolds
In-Reply-To: <CAF6p=0B_+c_0McPx6ODCkdTGG53N=DXNtwXo36v7L6ouSd=5VQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Rick (SS) carries stainless downpipes, EC59s, Stainless, pair $146...

Tom

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 1:52 PM Clyde Mclaughlin <
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> Has anyone found a supplier for front down pipes?
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From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net  Thu Jan 19 14:31:24 2023
From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] California assoc  tiger owners
References: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864@mail.yahoo.com>

I am a CAT member but can't seem to contact the parts department through email, has anyone have a ?good email address for them? ?catmbr.org/parts doesn't work.
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Thu Jan 19 17:10:23 2023
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:10:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Tigers] California assoc  tiger owners
In-Reply-To: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864@mail.yahoo.com>
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the parts email is parts at catmbr.org

Catmbr.org/parts just gets you to the webpage. 

Theo

> On Jan 19, 2023, at 4:57 PM, clydemclaughlin--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I am a CAT member but can't seem to contact the parts department through email, has anyone have a  good email address for them?  catmbr.org/parts doesn't work.
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From bucktrippel at verizon.net  Thu Jan 19 17:13:34 2023
From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:13:34 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] California assoc  tiger owners
In-Reply-To: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <3c2c01d92c64$09ea1db0$1dbe5910$@verizon.net>

CAT Parts is undergoing a management change. After 20 years Bill Graff has now handed over operation to Jere Teepen.

I suggest you use the CAT roster to find Jere?s number.

Meanwhile I?ll let him know you are trying to get ahold of him and I?ll also report the web problem 

 

Buck Trippel

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of clydemclaughlin--- via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 1:31 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] California assoc tiger owners

 

I am a CAT member but can't seem to contact the parts department through email, has anyone have a  good email address for them?  catmbr.org/parts doesn't work.

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 17:18:11 2023
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:18:11 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] California assoc tiger owners
In-Reply-To: <686221985.1740412.1674163884864@mail.yahoo.com>
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Try Parts at catmbr.org.

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> I am a CAT member but can't seem to contact the parts department through
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From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 08:00:05 2023
From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 10:00:05 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] "CAT" parts
Message-ID: <CAF6p=0DaZ9-yvqckfdOiqoqFqx9XdVTeB6b+pN=-0MYZNkE+ZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the correct email address, I guess the one that's on the web
site is out of date or a misprint, Clyde
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