From modtiger at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 11:10:07 2022 From: modtiger at comcast.net (Tom Hall) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 10:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Stolen Tiger Alert Message-ID: Many of you may have met Charlie Ockels and his Tiger in the past.? He's from the San Francisco Bay Area but has attended many Tigers United and east coast United events.? Unfortunately, Charlie suffered a debilitating stroke a year ago last March and has been incapacitated since then.? His Tiger had been in storage at his "ranch" near Watsonville, CA.? Sometime in the last year, the Tiger disappeared from it's garage storage and is now missing. Charlie's Tiger is modified and has a very distinctive appearance, a short description follows along with a photo. Please contact me if you see this Tiger. Charlie Ockels Tiger B9470466 LRXFE,? JAL 550420, TAC #368 Calif Lic "B4YRTYM" Metallic Green w Uncut LAT Pie Mags Dale's front suspension w Safety Wired Rack Bolts 302 Crate engine, MTE T5 5 speed Trans,? Port fuel Injection system MTE fuel system w dual in-tank Pumps, very distinctive Chrome Side Vents -- Tom Hall ModTiger Engineering LLC 5712 San Luis Court Pleasanton, CA 94566 (925)462-3876 modtiger at comcast.net http://tigerengineering.net/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Charlies Tiger side view.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 407103 bytes Desc: not available URL: From twotigers at verizon.net Tue Jun 7 12:30:50 2022 From: twotigers at verizon.net (twotigers at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:30:50 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Stolen Tiger Alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101d87a9c$b71170d0$25345270$@verizon.net> Dang, that's a total bummer! If that Tiger shows it's face in Ventura County I'll see it. Kirk -----Original Message----- From: Tigers On Behalf Of Tom Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 10:10 AM To: 'Tiger's List' Subject: [Tigers] Stolen Tiger Alert Many of you may have met Charlie Ockels and his Tiger in the past. He's from the San Francisco Bay Area but has attended many Tigers United and east coast United events. Unfortunately, Charlie suffered a debilitating stroke a year ago last March and has been incapacitated since then. His Tiger had been in storage at his "ranch" near Watsonville, CA. Sometime in the last year, the Tiger disappeared from it's garage storage and is now missing. Charlie's Tiger is modified and has a very distinctive appearance, a short description follows along with a photo. Please contact me if you see this Tiger. Charlie Ockels Tiger B9470466 LRXFE, JAL 550420, TAC #368 Calif Lic "B4YRTYM" Metallic Green w Uncut LAT Pie Mags Dale's front suspension w Safety Wired Rack Bolts 302 Crate engine, MTE T5 5 speed Trans, Port fuel Injection system MTE fuel system w dual in-tank Pumps, very distinctive Chrome Side Vents -- Tom Hall ModTiger Engineering LLC 5712 San Luis Court Pleasanton, CA 94566 (925)462-3876 modtiger at comcast.net http://tigerengineering.net/ From jbsyv at yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 16:33:02 2022 From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim Buster) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 15:33:02 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Stolen Tiger Alert In-Reply-To: <001101d87a9c$b71170d0$25345270$@verizon.net> References: <001101d87a9c$b71170d0$25345270$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I?ll be on the lookout in Santa Barbara County!! Can?t miss the side vent. Jim B > On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:31 AM, twotigers--- via Tigers wrote: > > ?Dang, that's a total bummer! If that Tiger shows it's face in Ventura County I'll see it. Kirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers On Behalf Of Tom Hall > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 10:10 AM > To: 'Tiger's List' > Subject: [Tigers] Stolen Tiger Alert > > Many of you may have met Charlie Ockels and his Tiger in the past. He's from the San Francisco Bay Area but has attended many Tigers United and east coast United events. Unfortunately, Charlie suffered a debilitating stroke a year ago last March and has been incapacitated since then. His Tiger had been in storage at his "ranch" near Watsonville, CA. Sometime in the last year, the Tiger disappeared from it's garage storage and is now missing. > > Charlie's Tiger is modified and has a very distinctive appearance, a short description follows along with a photo. Please contact me if you see this Tiger. > > Charlie Ockels Tiger > B9470466 LRXFE, JAL 550420, TAC #368 > Calif Lic "B4YRTYM" Metallic Green w Uncut LAT Pie Mags Dale's front suspension w Safety Wired Rack Bolts > 302 Crate engine, MTE T5 5 speed Trans, Port fuel Injection system MTE fuel system w dual in-tank Pumps, very distinctive Chrome Side Vents > > -- > Tom Hall > ModTiger Engineering LLC > 5712 San Luis Court > Pleasanton, CA 94566 > (925)462-3876 > modtiger at comcast.net > http://tigerengineering.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > From michael.s.king at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:00:45 2022 From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:00:45 +0800 Subject: [Tigers] Stolen Tiger Alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 at 01:10, Tom Hall wrote: > His Tiger had been in storage at his "ranch" near > Watsonville, CA. Sometime in the last year, the Tiger disappeared from > it's garage storage and is now missing. > > it seems like there is a very limited market for "stolen" tigers... the TAC system and the personalisaed nature of the car would make it easy to identify... If it has been stolen for resale.. surely it would have to leave the country? Should notify all the intl clubs.. especially LHD markets. -- Regards Michael King -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenmurphy at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 11:21:58 2022 From: stevenmurphy at comcast.net (STEVE MURPHY) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 13:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Tigers] MKII Speedometer cable is kaput Message-ID: <812548129.698166.1654881718614@connect.xfinity.com> The original speedometer cable broke in my MKII. Trying to put in a replacement cable from a MKI reveals that there is a spacer/shim/adapter left in the Toploader tail shaft. Does anyone have experience removing said spacer? Had a pic of the item but MicroSD seems to be empty now. Here is a pic of the orig cable and the replacement. Looking for a suggestion on removing the spacer or acquiring a replacement MKII speedo cable. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cables.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 847869 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 11:36:27 2022 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:36:27 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] MKII Speedometer cable is kaput In-Reply-To: <812548129.698166.1654881718614@connect.xfinity.com> References: <812548129.698166.1654881718614@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <641426AA-D95A-4D74-A99F-0EB4D3AD1281@gmail.com> I found this on www.tigersunited.com in the Technical Tips section. Is this what you?re dealing with?

Subject: Re: Speedo Cable
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:33:59 -0700
From: Steve Laifman
To: "Sobol, Perry"
CC: "'Tiger Net'"
References: 1
"Sobol, Perry" wrote:
> Tiger Fans,
>
> The cable I bought does not look like the one it is replacing.
>
> After disconnecting the old cable the only part that was left was a 1inch
> round fitting with what looks like a screw hole in the center still stuck in
> the transmission.
>
> The tranny is a HEH CF in a MKII.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
Perry,
Although I am not sure what a "linch round" fitting is, there is a flat steel piece that could be described as a Large Hole, that fits around the speedo cable housing, and a smaller hole that is used to clamp this cable holder to the transmission. It's proper position is ON the cable, such that the cable housing is sandwiched between this clamp and the transmission. The other hole is used to bolt it to the threaded hole in the transmission. This can be reached through an access panel on the transmission cover, under the floor mats. It is a little tricky putting it on, because of limited space for things like fingers and wrenches. Since your clamp is apparently already off your cable, there is a neat trick you can use that will make life simpler for you. That clamp can be cut through the center of the large hole, leaving a "C" shaped section, with a tail having the bolt hole. This can more easily be put on the assembled cable and tightened down. It might look something like this: o( (connect the edges) An even neater trick, which requires a little pre-thought, is to cut that section out of the clamp at an angle. The clamp is positioned on the transmission, with the slotted hole totally above the cable entry, and held lightly in place by the holding screw. This can be done either when the tranny is outside the car, or in place. The cable is firmly inserted and seated, then the holding screw is loosened, allowing the clamp to fall down into the groove in the cable. The holding screw is tightened, and your done. To remove the cable, loosen the screw, wiggle the cable then flip the cut end up and tighten the holder. Cable comes out, and the holder is ready for re-insertion. Neat, Huh? Only trick is to position the holder on the tranny, with the cable out, and move it up till a diameter cut will clear the cable entry. Mark the particular half-cut you need to make, at this angle, then remove it and cut it at the proper angle. Hope this helps. Apparently someone replace yours with the clamp off the cable.
Steve --
Steve Laifman < Find out what is most > < important in your life > < and don't let it get away!>
> On Jun 10, 2022, at 10:21 AM, STEVE MURPHY wrote: > > The original speedometer cable broke in my MKII. Trying to put in a replacement cable from a MKI reveals that there is a spacer/shim/adapter left in the Toploader tail shaft. Does anyone have experience removing said spacer? Had a pic of the item but MicroSD seems to be empty now. Here is a pic of the orig cable and the replacement. Looking for a suggestion on removing the spacer or acquiring a replacement MKII speedo cable. Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now's Your Chance... - LSX Magazine | | | | | | | | | | | Ever seen a Ford-Powered C5 Z06 'Vette? Now's Your Chance... - LSX Magazine Blasphemy? Corvette purists might think so, but this wicked Z06 boasts go-fast parts from the Blue Oval and will... | | | On Monday, June 13, 2022, 01:49:58 PM MDT, Larry Mayfield wrote: It has happened? Hot Rod in Roadster Clothing: LS3-Swapped 1964 Sunbeam Alpine (motortrend.com) Blasphemy mayf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maliburevue at yahoo.com Mon Jun 13 14:24:49 2022 From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 20:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Perhaps Unforgiveable.... In-Reply-To: <2116763534.3212435.1655151706243@mail.yahoo.com> References: <005e01d87f5e$ba09d6d0$2e1d8470$@mayfco.com> <2116763534.3212435.1655151706243@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1698172630.3195248.1655151889422@mail.yahoo.com> ... and again. https://www.lsxmag.com/news/a-1978-corvette-with-a-ford-modular-v8/ On Monday, June 13, 2022, 02:21:50 PM MDT, Gary via Tigers wrote: Turn about is fair play. Ever seen a Ford-Powered C5 Z06 'Vette? Now's Your Chance... - LSX Magazine | | | | | | | | | | | Ever seen a Ford-Powered C5 Z06 'Vette? Now's Your Chance... - LSX Magazine Blasphemy? Corvette purists might think so, but this wicked Z06 boasts go-fast parts from the Blue Oval and will... | | | On Monday, June 13, 2022, 01:49:58 PM MDT, Larry Mayfield wrote: It has happened? Hot Rod in Roadster Clothing: LS3-Swapped 1964 Sunbeam Alpine (motortrend.com) Blasphemy mayf _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/maliburevue at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 15:14:03 2022 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 14:14:03 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Perhaps Unforgiveable.... In-Reply-To: <005e01d87f5e$ba09d6d0$2e1d8470$@mayfco.com> References: <005e01d87f5e$ba09d6d0$2e1d8470$@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <326971B0-8B55-4370-9D0A-C35F968D09DD@gmail.com> They call it a 1964 Series 3. However, it has a Series 1 or 2 wind shield and doors. They can be swapped. So maybe in addition to the engine and frame, they swapped the windshield and doors too. But otherwise it?s not a 1964 or a Series 3. Personally, I don?t like when the rear fins get pipped up like that. I prefer how the real racers made the cars more horizontal on top. Real racers being Mills, Moss, McLaren and Brabham. Now those are great looking cars (and with non-peaked rims too). > On Jun 13, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > > It has happened? > > Hot Rod in Roadster Clothing: LS3-Swapped 1964 Sunbeam Alpine (motortrend.com) > > Blasphemy > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just to emphasize how they lowered the rear for these race cars. > On Jun 13, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Gary via Tigers wrote: > > ... and again. > > https://www.lsxmag.com/news/a-1978-corvette-with-a-ford-modular-v8/ > > On Monday, June 13, 2022, 02:21:50 PM MDT, Gary via Tigers wrote: > > > Turn about is fair play. > > Ever seen a Ford-Powered C5 Z06 'Vette? Now's Your Chance... - LSX Magazine > > Ever seen a Ford-Powered C5 Z06 'Vette? Now's Your Chance... - LSX Magazine > Blasphemy? 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I prefer how the real racers made the cars more horizontal on top. Real racers being Mills, Moss, McLaren and Brabham. 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Stock is in the middle, probably closer to the racers. > On Jun 13, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Gary wrote: > > Jay, interesting observation. > So are all those racers modified or just the > LS3 hot rod? Yeah, I don?t like hot rod fins. > Gary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 13, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Jay wrote: >> >> ?They call it a 1964 Series 3. However, it has a Series 1 or 2 wind shield and doors. They can be swapped. So maybe in addition to the engine and frame, they swapped the windshield and doors too. But otherwise it?s not a 1964 or a Series 3. >> >> Personally, I don?t like when the rear fins get pipped up like that. I prefer how the real racers made the cars more horizontal on top. Real racers being Mills, Moss, McLaren and Brabham. Now those are great looking cars (and with non-peaked rims too). >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 13, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Larry Mayfield > wrote: >>> >>> It has happened? >>> >>> Hot Rod in Roadster Clothing: LS3-Swapped 1964 Sunbeam Alpine (motortrend.com) >>> >>> Blasphemy >>> >>> mayf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> tigers at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 16:18:04 2022 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:18:04 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Perhaps Unforgiveable.... In-Reply-To: References: <326971B0-8B55-4370-9D0A-C35F968D09DD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67900C36-53FF-47A3-985E-CAF94C25DC4A@gmail.com> The picture also reminds me of myself in 1979. I was driving my Alpine. I ran out of gas. So I was at the side of the road, after putting in gas, and using the little hand lever on the Alpine fuel pump, to get the gas into the engine (yes, in case you were not familiar with that for Alpines, there is such a lever). Someone drove by and yelled ?You should have had a V8.? Now, I did think that was funny. But part of the joke is that HAD I owned a Tiger, I would have merely run out of gas that much sooner. > On Jun 13, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Jay wrote: > > All those racers are lowered in the rear. > > And the LS3 is raised. > > Stock is in the middle, probably closer to the racers. > >> On Jun 13, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Gary > wrote: >> >> Jay, interesting observation. >> So are all those racers modified or just the >> LS3 hot rod? Yeah, I don?t like hot rod fins. >> Gary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 13, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Jay > wrote: >>> >>> ?They call it a 1964 Series 3. However, it has a Series 1 or 2 wind shield and doors. They can be swapped. So maybe in addition to the engine and frame, they swapped the windshield and doors too. But otherwise it?s not a 1964 or a Series 3. >>> >>> Personally, I don?t like when the rear fins get pipped up like that. I prefer how the real racers made the cars more horizontal on top. Real racers being Mills, Moss, McLaren and Brabham. Now those are great looking cars (and with non-peaked rims too). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 13, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Larry Mayfield > wrote: >>>> >>>> It has happened? >>>> >>>> Hot Rod in Roadster Clothing: LS3-Swapped 1964 Sunbeam Alpine (motortrend.com) >>>> >>>> Blasphemy >>>> >>>> mayf >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> tigers at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> tigers at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 10:37:45 2022 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 09:37:45 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Pilot who owned a Tiger and Ferrari in Woodland Hills in 80s Message-ID: <786C639A-BF73-450D-AC3A-73F2B233C1DC@gmail.com> Anyone here an airline pilot who owned a Tiger and then a Ferrari, and lived in Woodland Hills in the 1980s? Or anyone know who that might have been? I was just recalling that I purchased a Dynoplastic hardtop from you/him then. At the time, he had sold his Tiger and bought a Ferrari, and still had the hardtop. I bought it for a whopping $75. It?s funny, it didn't have the rear quarter windows. The front and rear clips were basically L brackets with J bolts in them. Years later, when I had money and restored my Alpine, I bought a decent factory steel hardtop and restored it to match perfectly, all new rubber, all new windows and all correct brackets. I finally ditched that silly $75 top. Then I came to realize how great that Dynoplastic one was. Glass rear window and sooooo light. Easy to put on and off by myself. Easy to hang up on the wall. Quick to put on and off if the need arose. And now instead I have a supremely heavy hardtop with plastic rear window, that I can still put on and off myself - but with quite a heft to get it up and off. In fact, I think I've done it only once or twice since restoring it. Of course that's mostly because I greatly prefer top down driving and don't drive it in the rain. Sometimes they say the simpler life is the better life. So maybe the simpler hardtop is the better hardtop. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From twotigers at verizon.net Thu Jun 23 15:36:49 2022 From: twotigers at verizon.net (twotigers at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 14:36:49 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Pilot who owned a Tiger and Ferrari in Woodland Hills in 80s In-Reply-To: <786C639A-BF73-450D-AC3A-73F2B233C1DC@gmail.com> References: <786C639A-BF73-450D-AC3A-73F2B233C1DC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01d88749$5a107520$0e315f60$@verizon.net> Jay, That was a great looking top. I believe I had the same top on my first Tiger but it was labeled Coachman. Bought it in the early 70?s. Dare I say, I actually liked the look of it slightly more than the factory hardtop! I don?t know about you airline pilot, but I bought my Tiger in Sun Valley in 1970. Kirk From: Tigers On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:38 AM To: Tiger List List Subject: [Tigers] Pilot who owned a Tiger and Ferrari in Woodland Hills in 80s Anyone here an airline pilot who owned a Tiger and then a Ferrari, and lived in Woodland Hills in the 1980s? Or anyone know who that might have been? I was just recalling that I purchased a Dynoplastic hardtop from you/him then. At the time, he had sold his Tiger and bought a Ferrari, and still had the hardtop. I bought it for a whopping $75. It?s funny, it didn't have the rear quarter windows. The front and rear clips were basically L brackets with J bolts in them. Years later, when I had money and restored my Alpine, I bought a decent factory steel hardtop and restored it to match perfectly, all new rubber, all new windows and all correct brackets. I finally ditched that silly $75 top. Then I came to realize how great that Dynoplastic one was. Glass rear window and sooooo light. Easy to put on and off by myself. Easy to hang up on the wall. Quick to put on and off if the need arose. And now instead I have a supremely heavy hardtop with plastic rear window, that I can still put on and off myself - but with quite a heft to get it up and off. In fact, I think I've done it only once or twice since restoring it. Of course that's mostly because I greatly prefer top down driving and don't drive it in the rain. Sometimes they say the simpler life is the better life. So maybe the simpler hardtop is the better hardtop. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Tiger #1 side view sharpened darkened corrected cropped.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155806 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 16:17:10 2022 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:17:10 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion Message-ID: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sosnaenergyconsulting at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 16:18:18 2022 From: sosnaenergyconsulting at gmail.com (David Sosna) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:18:18 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Pilot who owned a Tiger and Ferrari in Woodland Hills in 80s In-Reply-To: <001d01d88749$5a107520$0e315f60$@verizon.net> References: <786C639A-BF73-450D-AC3A-73F2B233C1DC@gmail.com> <001d01d88749$5a107520$0e315f60$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Love the side pipes--that had to be before parking lot speed bumps. ? Best Regards David Sosna On 6/23/22 14:36, twotigers--- via Tigers wrote: > > Jay, > > That was a great looking top. I believe I had the same top on my first > Tiger but it was labeled Coachman. Bought it in the early 70?s. Dare I > say, I actually liked the look of it slightly more than the factory > hardtop! I don?t know about you airline pilot, but I bought my Tiger > in Sun Valley in 1970. > > Kirk > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Jay > *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:38 AM > *To:* Tiger List List > *Subject:* [Tigers] Pilot who owned a Tiger and Ferrari in Woodland > Hills in 80s > > Anyone here an airline pilot who owned a Tiger and then a Ferrari, and > lived in Woodland Hills in the 1980s? ?Or anyone know who that might > have been? > > I was just recalling that I purchased a Dynoplastic hardtop from > you/him then. ?At the time, he had sold his Tiger and bought a > Ferrari, and still had the hardtop. ?I bought it for a whopping $75. > > It?s funny, it didn't have the rear quarter windows. The front and > rear clips were basically L brackets with J bolts in them. Years > later, when I had money and restored my Alpine, I bought a decent > factory steel hardtop and restored it to match perfectly, all new > rubber, all new windows and all correct brackets. I finally ditched > that silly $75 top. > > > Then I came to realize how great that Dynoplastic one was. Glass rear > window and sooooo light. Easy to put on and off by myself. Easy to > hang up on the wall. Quick to put on and off if the need arose. > > And now instead I have a supremely heavy hardtop with plastic rear > window, that I can still put on and off myself - but with quite a heft > to get it up and off. In fact, I think I've done it only once or twice > since restoring it. Of course that's mostly because I greatly prefer > top down driving and don't drive it in the rain. > > > > Sometimes?they say the simpler life is the better life. ?So maybe > the?simpler hardtop is the better hardtop. > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Thu Jun 23 18:42:09 2022 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 17:42:09 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> References: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7443E3AE-AA20-4345-A6F4-ECD79A40DB06@comcast.net> Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody ripped off somebody. Gary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay wrote: > > ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? > > https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 18:46:54 2022 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 17:46:54 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: <7443E3AE-AA20-4345-A6F4-ECD79A40DB06@comcast.net> References: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> <7443E3AE-AA20-4345-A6F4-ECD79A40DB06@comcast.net> Message-ID: <434710D5-19D3-42D3-BDE7-2DD32A5E02AB@gmail.com> It just boggles my mind. For $850,000, they could buy all of these together: the best MkI and the best MkII on the planet, a Tiger race car AND still have money left over to buy a house or two, depending where you are in the country. And heck, maybe instead of the house, a real Cobra too. I just can't imagine loving the idea of a V8 AH so much that you have to do this (and then immediately sell it and never enjoy the result). > On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Gary wrote: > > Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody > ripped off somebody. > Gary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay wrote: >> >> ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? >> >> https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Thu Jun 23 18:55:14 2022 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 17:55:14 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: <434710D5-19D3-42D3-BDE7-2DD32A5E02AB@gmail.com> References: <434710D5-19D3-42D3-BDE7-2DD32A5E02AB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Right on Jay. Even if they hammered the entire AH out of sheets of steel, it shouldn?t cost that much. Gary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Jay wrote: > > ? > It just boggles my mind. For $850,000, they could buy all of these together: the best MkI and the best MkII on the planet, a Tiger race car AND still have money left over to buy a house or two, depending where you are in the country. And heck, maybe instead of the house, a real Cobra too. I just can't imagine loving the idea of a V8 AH so much that you have to do this (and then immediately sell it and never enjoy the result). > > >> On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Gary wrote: >> >> Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody >> ripped off somebody. >> Gary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay wrote: >>>> >>> ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? >>> >>> https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> tigers at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at cthompson.net Thu Jun 23 19:14:04 2022 From: chris at cthompson.net (chris cthompson.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 01:14:04 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: <7443E3AE-AA20-4345-A6F4-ECD79A40DB06@comcast.net> References: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> <7443E3AE-AA20-4345-A6F4-ECD79A40DB06@comcast.net> Message-ID: It?s current price is $265,000. Still absurd. A reason this dealer calls himself Fantasy Junction? From: Tigers On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:42 PM To: Jay Cc: Tiger List List Subject: Re: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody ripped off somebody. Gary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay > wrote: ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phastphill at aol.com Thu Jun 23 20:13:23 2022 From: phastphill at aol.com (phastphill at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 02:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: References: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> <7443E3AE-AA20-4345-A6F4-ECD79A40DB06@comcast.net> Message-ID: <717728519.8195429.1656036803369@mail.yahoo.com> more like 26,500 $ couple to many zeros....body not aluminum .. crate 327?? all bs -----Original Message----- From: chris cthompson.net To: Gary ; Jay Cc: Tiger List List Sent: Thu, Jun 23, 2022 9:14 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion #yiv6880190490 #yiv6880190490 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv6880190490 #yiv6880190490 p.yiv6880190490MsoNormal, #yiv6880190490 li.yiv6880190490MsoNormal, #yiv6880190490 div.yiv6880190490MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv6880190490 a:link, #yiv6880190490 span.yiv6880190490MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6880190490 span.yiv6880190490EmailStyle19 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv6880190490 .yiv6880190490MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv6880190490 div.yiv6880190490WordSection1 {}#yiv6880190490 It?s current price is $265,000.? Still absurd.? A reason this dealer calls himself Fantasy Junction? ? From: Tigers On Behalf OfGary Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:42 PM To: Jay Cc: Tiger List List Subject: Re: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion ? Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody? ripped off somebody. Gary ? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay wrote: ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atwittsend at verizon.net Thu Jun 23 20:57:12 2022 From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 19:57:12 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> References: <10FA7703-5B43-42DC-98F1-5C207A0DE2B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: The old school bonnet straps clash with the modern valve covers/air cleaner in a disassociated way.? The 327 engine was early 60's and 5 years after the original build. It may be close to the time period but one would think the aluminum LS engines are a better fit weight and power wise. The dual carbs are surely over kill. Is that one of those gen-alt-nators? Or is it just a generator? Again it clashes with the modern engine coverings. The write up implies the period correct engine compartment??? /"The engine compartment is a visual delight of performance blended with*correct factory finishes* and excellent polished features. The engine compartment and firewall have been equally finished to a very high level, *correctly painted, and in keeping with the exterior presentation.*"/What? The engine dressings need to be more in keeping with the period of the car and a $700,000 price drop would seem appropriate. I'd rather have my "beater" Tiger than having to explain why I bought this - especially at the asking price. I think the selling agent web link say it all "Fantasy Junction." On 6/23/2022 3:17 PM, Jay wrote: > OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a > 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine > doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a > Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey > that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read > that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point > don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost > me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have > had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before > putting it for sale? > https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From srwick at hotmail.com Thu Jun 23 22:26:40 2022 From: srwick at hotmail.com (steve wick) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 04:26:40 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: References: <434710D5-19D3-42D3-BDE7-2DD32A5E02AB@gmail.com> Message-ID: When I was in high school in the early 70's, there was a guy in town who stuffed a 426 hemi in an Austin Healy. It didn't have a hood, the heads were higher than the fenders and I don't think he could see anything in front of him, but it sure drew attention. Sorry, off topic, but this thread brought back that memory. Steve ________________________________ From: Tigers on behalf of Gary Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 5:55 PM To: Jay Cc: Tiger List List Subject: Re: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion Right on Jay. Even if they hammered the entire AH out of sheets of steel, it shouldn?t cost that much. Gary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Jay wrote: ? It just boggles my mind. For $850,000, they could buy all of these together: the best MkI and the best MkII on the planet, a Tiger race car AND still have money left over to buy a house or two, depending where you are in the country. And heck, maybe instead of the house, a real Cobra too. I just can't imagine loving the idea of a V8 AH so much that you have to do this (and then immediately sell it and never enjoy the result). On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Gary > wrote: Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody ripped off somebody. Gary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay > wrote: ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more than 300 miles before putting it for sale? https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owain.lloyd at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 00:20:07 2022 From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 08:20:07 +0200 Subject: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion In-Reply-To: References: <434710D5-19D3-42D3-BDE7-2DD32A5E02AB@gmail.com> Message-ID: In all fairness, it does appear to come with some spares - a coil and new distributor cap. Il giorno ven 24 giu 2022 alle 06:26 steve wick ha scritto: > When I was in high school in the early 70's, there was a guy in town who > stuffed a 426 hemi in an Austin Healy. It didn't have a hood, the heads > were higher than the fenders and I don't think he could see anything in > front of him, but it sure drew attention. Sorry, off topic, but this thread > brought back that memory. > > Steve > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tigers on behalf of Gary < > garywinblad at comcast.net> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2022 5:55 PM > > *To:* Jay > *Cc:* Tiger List List > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] How much to spend on a conversion > > Right on Jay. > Even if they hammered the entire AH out of > sheets of steel, it shouldn?t cost that much. > Gary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Jay wrote: > > ? > > It just boggles my mind. For $850,000, they could buy all of these > together: the best MkI and the best MkII on the planet, a Tiger race car > AND still have money left over to buy a house or two, depending where you > are in the country. And heck, maybe instead of the house, a real Cobra > too. I just can't imagine loving the idea of a V8 AH so much that you have > to do this (and then immediately sell it and never enjoy the result). > > On Jun 23, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Gary wrote: > > Sounds like a case of elder abuse, somebody > ripped off somebody. > Gary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 23, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Jay wrote: > > ?OK, I had to share this absurdity. How much would you spend to take a 4 > cylinder English roadster and stuff a V8 into it? I would imagine doing it > to an Alpine and spending a bunch of money to make it like a Tiger might > make some sense. But what about a 4 seater Austin Healey that never came > with a V8 option? How about $850,000??? Yes, you read that right. They even > have the list of invoices paid. At some point don't you say "wait, stop, > dear god, how much is this going to cost me?" And then after ALL THAT MONEY > wouldn't you think he would have had a reason to do such as driving it more > than 300 miles before putting it for sale? > > > https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1957-austin-healey-100-6-bn4l/overview > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rollright at aol.com Mon Jun 27 12:52:41 2022 From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:52:41 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] British car day yesterday in Brookline Massachusetts References: <1B3A64BE-682E-4328-8723-F2C58B6FC1A1.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <1B3A64BE-682E-4328-8723-F2C58B6FC1A1@aol.com> Roasting hot day, 4 Tigers showed up, but also a number of Tiger owners without their cars or driving alternative vehicles. Good to see Stu Brennan David Kellogg David Twombley, and Jeff Randall myself Jim Armstrong and two other owners of two red cars one Tiger 2 and a Mark one. Memories getting catchy, so I didn?t remember their names. Nice cars though. A good time was had by all Sent from my iPhone From mai65tai at sonic.net Mon Jun 27 15:14:24 2022 From: mai65tai at sonic.net (John Stithem) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:14:24 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 207 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BBF9083-1BF5-45A7-A91B-7E7A4DB02939@sonic.net> Call Bill Martin. He has more of these conversions than anyone else. He should be able to answer any of your question. John John Stithem, PT, DPT, SCS Doctor of Physical Therapy Board Certified Sports Clinical Specialist Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2022, at 11:01 AM, tigers-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > ?Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. MDL TKO 600 conversion (GARY FISH) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:42:22 -0400 (EDT) > From: GARY FISH > To: "tigers at autox.team.net" > Subject: [Tigers] MDL TKO 600 conversion > Message-ID: <507861239.1141766.1656344542246 at connect.xfinity.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would like to be contacted by any member that has had this transmission conversion. > My question concerns the clutch pedal pressure required to disengage the pressure plate. > I can be reached at the included email. > Thanks > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 207 > *************************************** > From cars at wt-inc.com Mon Jun 27 15:24:13 2022 From: cars at wt-inc.com (Cars) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:24:13 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 207 In-Reply-To: <1BBF9083-1BF5-45A7-A91B-7E7A4DB02939@sonic.net> References: <1BBF9083-1BF5-45A7-A91B-7E7A4DB02939@sonic.net> Message-ID: <64615F18-8888-4598-BD04-2A07C80D9CB6@wt-inc.com> Or Dale at Dales Resto Sent from my mobile device > On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:15 PM, John Stithem via Tigers wrote: > > ?Call Bill Martin. He has more of these conversions than anyone else. He should be able to answer any of your question. > John > > John Stithem, PT, DPT, SCS > Doctor of Physical Therapy > Board Certified Sports Clinical Specialist > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 27, 2022, at 11:01 AM, tigers-request at autox.team.net wrote: >> >> ?Send Tigers mailing list submissions to >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftigers&data=05%7C01%7Ccars%40wt-inc.com%7C7357433eb5734c4ade2608da58821790%7Cfe04abb38a614c419e86f820d2248ab7%7C0%7C0%7C637919613022476230%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IwDVRsKnsNB1J8%2BSrFpes7PeLxGObziUR6fRBWGY8r0%3D&reserved=0 >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> tigers-request at autox.team.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> tigers-owner at autox.team.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. 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See photo of block. I am installing a new camshaft and I ordered one from COMP Cams back in March. I am not sure what is going on over at COMP Cams but my item is still on back order and they are now saying late July. Every time I have called it is always the same story?next month. Enough whining?does any body have a recommendation for another manufacturer. I have heard good things about Cower and bad things about Crane. COMP offered a cam and lifter kit which includes everything you need. I would prefer finding something similar. Thanks Jim Sent from my iPad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 96629 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 09:22:50 2022 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:22:50 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Camshaft Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi James, When I rebuilt my 260 about 4 years ago the only cam I could find was COMP Cams 31-215-2. It didn't have the exact same specs as the original Ford part, but it was close enough. But, like you said, nobody seems to have them in stock. Regards, Joe Brown On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:43 AM James Lindner via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello > > I am building a stock 260 for my very early Tiger. See photo of block. I > am installing a new camshaft and I ordered one from COMP Cams back in > March. I am not sure what is going on over at COMP Cams but my item is > still on back order and they are now saying late July. Every time I have > called it is always the same story?next month. > > Enough whining?does any body have a recommendation for another > manufacturer. I have heard good things about Cower and bad things about > Crane. > > COMP offered a cam and lifter kit which includes everything you need. I > would prefer finding something similar. > > Thanks > > Jim > [image: image0.jpeg] > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbbrown1980 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 96629 bytes Desc: not available URL: From owain.lloyd at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 09:30:57 2022 From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 17:30:57 +0200 Subject: [Tigers] Camshaft Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i recently built a stock 302 for a friend. he was on a budget. i used this summit cam (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-1799) which turned out to be really nice. smooth idle and progressive power up to about 5500. apart from ported heads and raised 10:1 compression it was pretty much stock but the car made well over double the HP on the rolling road compared to before the rebuild. i was surprised by that cam. On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 5:23 PM Joe Brown wrote: > Hi James, > > When I rebuilt my 260 about 4 years ago the only cam I could find was COMP > Cams 31-215-2. It didn't have the exact same specs as the original Ford > part, but it was close enough. But, like you said, nobody seems to have > them in stock. > > Regards, > Joe Brown > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:43 AM James Lindner via Tigers < > tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I am building a stock 260 for my very early Tiger. See photo of block. I >> am installing a new camshaft and I ordered one from COMP Cams back in >> March. I am not sure what is going on over at COMP Cams but my item is >> still on back order and they are now saying late July. Every time I have >> called it is always the same story?next month. >> >> Enough whining?does any body have a recommendation for another >> manufacturer. I have heard good things about Cower and bad things about >> Crane. >> >> COMP offered a cam and lifter kit which includes everything you need. I >> would prefer finding something similar. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jim >> [image: image0.jpeg] >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbbrown1980 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 96629 bytes Desc: not available URL: