From jimdamelio at verizon.net Thu Dec 1 09:04:11 2022 From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (Jim D'Amelio) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2022 11:04:11 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question Message-ID: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.? ?Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket?? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory,? but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted.Thanks?Jim DSent from my Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsmit at shaw.ca Thu Dec 1 09:19:54 2022 From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 09:19:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> References: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1234726514.67697574.1669911594828.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet> The ?wrong from the factory? part is that the frame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or things will just tear apart over time (as they already do). Cheers, Theo > On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: > > ? > It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory, but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted. > > Thanks > > Jim D > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimdamelio at verizon.net Thu Dec 1 09:43:54 2022 From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (Jim D'Amelio) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2022 11:43:54 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <1234726514.67697574.1669911594828.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet> Message-ID: <2040290405.1423328.1669913041674@verizon.net> Theo,Thanks for the response.? I understand how the difference was with the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifications to make it more level.? Just needed to know the orientation of the bar.?Jim DSent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Theo Smit Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jim D'Amelio Cc: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question The ?wrong from the factory? part is that the frame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or things will just tear apart over time (as they already do).?Cheers,TheoOn Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote:?It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.? ?Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket?? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory,? but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted.Thanks?Jim DSent from my Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Thu Dec 1 10:04:42 2022 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 12:04:42 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> References: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> Message-ID: <001401d905a7$02a511b0$07ef3510$@bluefrog.com> Jim Shop Manual ? Section H ? pg. 2 ? exploded illustration. Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Jim D'Amelio via Tigers Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2022 11:04 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory, but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted. Thanks Jim D Sent from my Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 1 10:15:26 2022 From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 17:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> References: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2039073935.3980811.1669914926109@mail.yahoo.com> This might help. David Franchi http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/wsm/tt-images/wsmh2-1.jpg On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 08:11:20 AM PST, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.? ?Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket?? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory,? but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted. Thanks? Jim D Sent from my Galaxy _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/orr4sale at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 10:28:46 2022 From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 12:28:46 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <001401d905a7$02a511b0$07ef3510$@bluefrog.com> References: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> <001401d905a7$02a511b0$07ef3510$@bluefrog.com> Message-ID: Giving up typing on my phone will resome from my laptoo On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:26 PM Ron Fraser wrote: > Jim > > > > Shop Manual ? Section H ? pg. 2 ? exploded illustration. > > > > Ron Fraser > > > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Jim > D'Amelio via Tigers > *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2022 11:04 AM > *To:* tigers at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question > > > > It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. Does > the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket? > Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different > view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory, but can't > find a picture of a stock bar mounted. > > > > Thanks > > > > Jim D > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimdamelio at verizon.net Thu Dec 1 11:14:44 2022 From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (Jim D'Amelio) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2022 13:14:44 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <2039073935.3980811.1669914926109@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1438053287.971499.1669918490546@verizon.net> Ron and David,Guess I should have checked the service manual.? Duh, old age is catching up with me.Thanks,Jim DSent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: D or G at sbc Date: 12/1/22 12:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net, Jim D'Amelio Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question This might help.David Franchihttp://www.tigersunited.com/resources/wsm/tt-images/wsmh2-1.jpg On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 08:11:20 AM PST, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.? ?Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket?? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory,? but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted.Thanks?Jim DSent from my Galaxy_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/orr4sale at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Thu Dec 1 11:23:58 2022 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 13:23:58 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <001401d905a7$02a511b0$07ef3510$@bluefrog.com> References: <1155476965.1416693.1669910663645@verizon.net> <001401d905a7$02a511b0$07ef3510$@bluefrog.com> Message-ID: <002701d905b2$15bf33b0$413d9b10$@bluefrog.com> Here is a scan of that page. Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Ron Fraser Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2022 12:05 PM To: 'Jim D'Amelio' ; tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question Jim Shop Manual ? Section H ? pg. 2 ? exploded illustration. Ron Fraser From: Tigers > On Behalf Of Jim D'Amelio via Tigers Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2022 11:04 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory, but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted. Thanks Jim D Sent from my Galaxy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Panhard.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 371053 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 13:04:10 2022 From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 15:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: <2040290405.1423328.1669913041674@verizon.net> References: <1234726514.67697574.1669911594828.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet> <2040290405.1423328.1669913041674@verizon.net> Message-ID: The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was able to get the rod very close to ideal. I did have to work around the brake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod slightly. I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on turns in both directions especially with the power on with LSD. On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: > Theo, > > Thanks for the response. I understand how the difference was with the > MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifications > to make it more level. Just needed to know the orientation of the bar. > > Jim D > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Theo Smit > Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Jim D'Amelio > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question > > The ?wrong from the factory? part is that the frame attachment and the > axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, which you > cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and more important > issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended to position > the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that requires more > structure back there to support the lateral loads or things will just tear > apart over time (as they already do). > > Cheers, > Theo > > On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers > wrote: > > ? > It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. Does > the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket? > Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different > view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory, but can't > find a picture of a stock bar mounted. > > Thanks > > Jim D > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From modtiger at comcast.net Thu Dec 1 16:52:15 2022 From: modtiger at comcast.net (Tom Hall) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 15:52:15 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: References: <1234726514.67697574.1669911594828.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet> <2040290405.1423328.1669913041674@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 12/1/2022 12:04 PM, Clyde Mclaughlin wrote: > The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I > fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left > side frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on > the other side and playing with the angles and positioning of the > frame mount I was able to get the rod very close to ideal.? I did have > to work around the brake line on the right side and also extended the > length of the rod slightly.? I have found that the car now transitions > much more evenly on turns in both directions especially with the power > on with LSD. As many of you already know, I manufacture a "Kit" that repairs and replaces the woefully weak OEM Panhard frame mount.? It is symmetrical so that it will mount on either side and has three vertical holes for elevation to locate the frame rod end for improved operational performance.? So it can be used with the OEM Rod as is, or to relocate the axle bracket as Clyde has done to improve left right transitions.? It's a shame that the factory waited two + years to correct this seemingly minor design error that they discovered during Mk I prototype testing.? I've done several of these conversions over the years with good results. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers > wrote: > > Theo, > > Thanks for the response.? I understand how the difference was with > the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some > modifications to make it more level.? Just needed to know the > orientation of the bar. > > Jim D > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Theo Smit > Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Jim D'Amelio > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question > > The ?wrong from the factory? part is that the frame attachment and > the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, > which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and > more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have > been extended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal > ride height. But that requires more structure back there to > support the lateral loads or things will just tear apart over time > (as they already do). > > Cheers, > Theo > >> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers >> wrote: >> >> ? >> It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.? >> ?Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or >> the diff bracket?? Does it really matter which end goes where? >> I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong >> position from the factory,? but can't find a picture of a stock >> bar mounted. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jim D >> >> >> >> Sent from my Galaxy >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/modtiger at comcast.net > > -- Tom Hall ModTiger Engineering LLC 5712 San Luis Court Pleasanton, CA 94566 (925)462-3876 modtiger at comcast.net http://tigerengineering.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Thu Dec 1 17:31:01 2022 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 19:31:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question In-Reply-To: References: <1234726514.67697574.1669911594828.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet> <2040290405.1423328.1669913041674@verizon.net> Message-ID: <327504898.1056071.1669941061866@connect.xfinity.com> Is the side the panhard rod attaches really matter? I guess that maybe if it is at an angle (like on Tigers) it could help push down the side that tries to lift with engine torque but that's not really its purpose. Gary > On 12/01/2022 3:04 PM Clyde Mclaughlin wrote: > > > The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was able to get the rod very close to ideal. I did have to work around the brake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod slightly. I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on turns in both directions especially with the power on with LSD. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: > > > > Theo, > > > > Thanks for the response. I understand how the difference was with the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifications to make it more level. Just needed to know the orientation of the bar. > > > > Jim D > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Theo Smit > > Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00) > > To: Jim D'Amelio > > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question > > > > > > The ?wrong from the factory? part is that the frame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or things will just tear apart over time (as they already do). > > > > Cheers, > > Theo > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket? Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory, but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Jim D > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have included 2 pix..note from the pix that the two lower > tubes are parallel, and I would believe less likely to bottom out over > obsticles, and they look better, but I'm looking for ground clearance. > Thanks for any input, Clyde > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king at gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have had the > major mechanicals done by an expert but will be a lot of little things I > will be doing. > > First is a new steering wheel: > https://momo.com/en-us/momo-street-steering-wheels/momo-retro.html > > Anyone know of an adapter for this? > > Thanks. > > Derrick > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king at gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 10:13:42 2022 From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:13:42 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] hillman spindle Message-ID: How would you know if your car had the lowered hillman spindles? measurements? i.d. markings?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 11 15:10:23 2022 From: lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com (Derrick Schmidt) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 22:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> Tiger is back on the road.? Had been 27 years since I last drove it. Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. Googling, I found these places.? Anybody have any experience with any of these places?? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results with Nisonger. http://paspeedo.com/index.htm https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ https://www.classygauges.com/ Thanks. Derrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Sun Dec 11 17:49:56 2022 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:49:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? In-Reply-To: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1863284003.68804.1670806196530@connect.xfinity.com> Derrick, If you are a all handy, it is pretty easy to fix it.. usually. They easily come apart. First step is to pull it out and make sure the cable is turning. What are the symptoms? Gary > On 12/11/2022 5:10 PM Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: > > > Tiger is back on the road. Had been 27 years since I last drove it. > > Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. > > Googling, I found these places. Anybody have any experience with any of these places? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results with Nisonger. > > http://paspeedo.com/index.htm > > > https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ > > > https://www.classygauges.com/ > > > Thanks. > > Derrick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggere at comcast.net Sun Dec 11 19:11:13 2022 From: ggere at comcast.net (Gary M. Gere) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:11:13 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? In-Reply-To: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello, I have been using Palo alto speedometer service for decades. I lived within driving distance of their shop for most of my life, and was able to bring the gauges in and talk to them personally. You can?t believe the variety of instruments they service. I had them refurbish and re-calibrate all of the gauges in my 1967 mkii and they look and work as though they were new. I could not recommend them more highly. -Gary > On Dec 11, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: > > ? > Tiger is back on the road. Had been 27 years since I last drove it. > > Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. > > Googling, I found these places. Anybody have any experience with any of these places? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results with Nisonger. > > http://paspeedo.com/index.htm > > > https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ > > > https://www.classygauges.com/ > > > Thanks. > > Derrick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ggere at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 11 20:05:05 2022 From: lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com (Derrick Schmidt) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 03:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <124113242.4235194.1670814305813@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks.? I am in the Sacramento area, one daughter went to Stanford and the other lives in Sunnyvale so I was leaning that way anyway. Glad to know they do good work.? Thanks again.? Derrick? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 6:11 PM, Gary M. Gere wrote: Hello, I have been using Palo alto speedometer service for decades. I lived within driving distance of their shop for most of my life, and was able to bring the gauges in and talk to them personally. You can?t believe the variety of instruments they service. I had them refurbish and re-calibrate all of the gauges in my 1967 mkii and they look and work as though they were new. I could not recommend them more highly. -Gary On Dec 11, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: ?Tiger is back on the road.? Had been 27 years since I last drove it. Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. Googling, I found these places.? Anybody have any experience with any of these places?? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results with Nisonger. http://paspeedo.com/index.htm https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ https://www.classygauges.com/ Thanks. Derrick _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ggere at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 20:30:58 2022 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:30:58 -0600 Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? In-Reply-To: <1863284003.68804.1670806196530@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> <1863284003.68804.1670806196530@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: I had a broken odometer gear in mine and couldn't find the part anywhere. I sent it to Nisonger and they fixed it up. They also converted my tach to work with electronic ignition. The only problem I have now is that the speedometer needle sticks if I haven't driven it in awhile. I can thump on the speedometer and it frees up. I know how to fix it but I don't want to take it apart right now. The only other problem I've ever had with the speedometer is when the cable somehow got against the exhaust and melted. Have fun, Joe Brown On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 9:10 PM GARY WINBLAD wrote: > Derrick, > If you are a all handy, it is pretty easy to fix it.. usually. > They easily come apart. First step is to pull it out and make sure the > cable is turning. > What are the symptoms? > Gary > > > On 12/11/2022 5:10 PM Derrick Schmidt via Tigers > wrote: > > > Tiger is back on the road. Had been 27 years since I last drove it. > > Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. > > Googling, I found these places. Anybody have any experience with any of > these places? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results > with Nisonger. > > http://paspeedo.com/index.htm > > > https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ > > > https://www.classygauges.com/ > > > Thanks. > > Derrick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbbrown1980 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.s.king at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 21:00:53 2022 From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 12:00:53 +0800 Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? In-Reply-To: <1863284003.68804.1670806196530@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> <1863284003.68804.1670806196530@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Agree aftwr sitting so long.. Likely a lack of lubrication or dried up lubrication making it stick...also worth chefkmcanle is turning to drive it.. Or that the peg on the cable is locating into the speedo head correctly. On Monday, 12 December 2022, GARY WINBLAD wrote: > Derrick, > If you are a all handy, it is pretty easy to fix it.. usually. > They easily come apart. First step is to pull it out and make sure the > cable is turning. > What are the symptoms? > Gary > > > On 12/11/2022 5:10 PM Derrick Schmidt via Tigers > wrote: > > > Tiger is back on the road. Had been 27 years since I last drove it. > > Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. > > Googling, I found these places. Anybody have any experience with any of > these places? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results > with Nisonger. > > http://paspeedo.com/index.htm > > > https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ > > > https://www.classygauges.com/ > > > Thanks. > > Derrick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@ > comcast.net > > > -- Regards Michael King -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Sun Dec 11 22:28:37 2022 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 00:28:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Tigers] Speedo rebuild recommendations? In-Reply-To: <124113242.4235194.1670814305813@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1211429049.2948391.1670796623167@mail.yahoo.com> <124113242.4235194.1670814305813@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <177547867.77819.1670822917605@connect.xfinity.com> Derrick, Were you the guy that was going to bring your Tiger to Cars and Coffee Folsom? We have several Tigers in the Sacramento area now. Gary Winblad El Dorado Hills > On 12/11/2022 10:05 PM Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: > > > Thanks. > > I am in the Sacramento area, one daughter went to Stanford and the other lives in Sunnyvale so I was leaning that way anyway. Glad to know they do good work. > > Thanks again. > > Derrick > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0 > > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 6:11 PM, Gary M. Gere wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I have been using Palo alto speedometer service for decades. > > > > I lived within driving distance of their shop for most of my life, and was able to bring the gauges in and talk to them personally. You can?t believe the variety of instruments they service. > > > > I had them refurbish and re-calibrate all of the gauges in my 1967 mkii and they look and work as though they were new. > > > > I could not recommend them more highly. > > > > -Gary > > > > > > > > > On Dec 11, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tiger is back on the road. Had been 27 years since I last drove it. > > > > > > Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. > > > > > > Googling, I found these places. Anybody have any experience with any of these places? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results with Nisonger. > > > > > > http://paspeedo.com/index.htm > > > > > > > > > https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > > > > > > > https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ > > > > > > > > > https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ > > > > > > > > > https://www.classygauges.com/ > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Derrick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > tigers at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ggere at comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gary Winblad El Dorado Hills On 12/11/2022 10:05 PM Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: Thanks.? I am in the Sacramento area, one daughter went to Stanford and the other lives in Sunnyvale so I was leaning that way anyway. Glad to know they do good work.? Thanks again.? Derrick? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 6:11 PM, Gary M. Gere wrote: Hello, I have been using Palo alto speedometer service for decades. I lived within driving distance of their shop for most of my life, and was able to bring the gauges in and talk to them personally. You can?t believe the variety of instruments they service. I had them refurbish and re-calibrate all of the gauges in my 1967 mkii and they look and work as though they were new. I could not recommend them more highly. -Gary On Dec 11, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Derrick Schmidt via Tigers wrote: Tiger is back on the road.? Had been 27 years since I last drove it. Surprise, surprise, speed doesn't work. Googling, I found these places.? Anybody have any experience with any of these places?? Went through the archives and only saw some mixed results with Nisonger. http://paspeedo.com/index.htm https://dandmrestoration.com/speedometer-repair/ https://www.speedoservice.com/speedometer-repair/ https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/ https://www.classygauges.com/ Thanks. Derrick _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ggere at comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larryall at pacbell.net Mon Dec 12 10:59:33 2022 From: larryall at pacbell.net (larryall) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 09:59:33 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Speedo service Message-ID: <1464464338.627931.1670867977644@pacbell.net> I also live near Palo Alto Speedometer.They refurbished mine probably 25 years ago and is still working as new.They also recommended a new speedo cable which I got from Curts ClassicSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 09:34:15 2022 From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 11:34:15 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] electric windshield washer Message-ID: has anyone installed the electric washer pump shown as an accessory in the BON on page 122? I have one left over from some Jaguar stuff but it looks like it won't fit where the original one is, but I do have an alternator that maybe in the way. 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Clyde > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sabre2tgr at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 09:52:37 2022 From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:52:37 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] windshield washer Message-ID: Since I asked the question about the Lucas washer pump/reservoir I was able to make a bracket and install it where the original type was mounted on the rf inner fender. I too have previously installed a universal electric washer pump, but I hid it under the false floor on the passenger side and converted the old mechanical pump to an electrical switch. I like the Lucas pump assy, it's kinda cool and I hadn't seen one on a sunbeam before and was surprised to see it mention in the BON. Clyde -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: