[Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar

Michael Wood mwood24020 at aol.com
Thu Sep 30 11:02:42 MDT 2021


No, my car had less HP at the time (260 with 4bbl and headers) and stock front suspension. We all ran together in SCCA F Stock.  But, I did have KONI's, optimized alignment, limited slip and bolt on TMC traction bars. That all changed when I went to the 302/5spd combo further down the road. Also, I don't believe a rear bar or the motors your Dad and Stan were running were factory options and none of us were technically stock legal (but, the faster Camaro and Mustang drivers didn't care lol) But I might be misremembering, it was a long time ago :)
No doubt, a rear bar can be made to work correctly, just look at Buck's race car. Of course, they also run BIG front springs and bar! The real point I'm making is that installing an off the shelf Addco bar on a stock suspension car has not been optimal in my experience.  



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From: Taylor, Matthew <MTaylor at ea.com>
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I was just comparing two stock Tigers with factory options.  I think you were a bit more modified and Stan runs a 1” front sway bar.  I don’t think he has a rear bar but I’m not positive.
 
  
 
And Gary, the set up isn’t that hard.  100% stock rear springs.  Slightly stiffer front springs.
 
  
 
Matthew
 
  
 
From: Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:41 AM
To: garywinblad at comcast.net; Taylor, Matthew <MTaylor at ea.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
 
Yep, Terry and Stan were the bogey when I first started autocrossing my Tiger, both of them were fantastic drivers with tons of experience, But, I ended up getting past them both and I think set up had a lot to do with it. Effectively giving up rear grip to make the car more neutral or "tossable" I don't think makes sense. But, end of day, what you (big "you") are most comfortable with in terms of set up is key and, you're right, for most drivers that will be more important in terms of time on course than ultimate grip :)

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From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: Taylor, Matthew <MTaylor at ea.com>; Taylor, Matthew via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>; Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
 
I have seen your dad(a long time ago), him and his car are VERY fast.
 
It seems to be set up very hard like a go-cart.  The rear bar makes it loose and he steers it (wags the tail) around the cones with power and his posi.
 
Very impressive and fast.
 
Gary 
 

On 09/30/2021 10:07 AM Taylor, Matthew via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
I don’t know about “total grip capability,” but you have seen my dad drive his Tiger with the rear sway bar and it works great.  I’ve driven and autocrossed Tigers that are set up properly with or without the rear sway bar and they both handle great but different.  A good driver can adjust to the differences and take advantages of the differences, but I doubt one is much faster than the other.  It’s possible that one could be faster than the other depending on the type of course, but it would be fractions of a second based on my autocross experiences.
 
  
 
Matthew
 
  
 
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Wood via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:28 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
 
 
 
Like said, any rear bar on a Tiger is an aftermarket solution...and I've yet to see one (not counting custom fabricated with heim joints, correct angles, adjustability etc used in conjunction with front end improvements) that made any sense or was additive to total grip capability. 
 
 
 
Mike


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From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Wed, Sep 29, 2021 1:54 pm
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Sway bar
 
Was a rear sway bar originally fitted on the Tiger or was it a LAT option or not?  Size, mounting points? Either way could someone post some pictures of how they were suppose to be mounted and installed?
 
 
 
Thanks
 
 
 
Joel Martin
 
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