[Tigers] Clutch issue

Sat May 29 10:01:20 MDT 2021

For sure, there's been some trial and error in getting the hydraulic TO bearing set up right over the last 20 years or so. But, once dialed in, I believe it is a much better solution. I've never liked the slave/lever arm throw out deal, although it works much better with a diaphragm clutch than the old three finger long style.

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From: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: Theo Smit <tsmit at shaw.ca>; Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com>
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Sent: Fri, May 28, 2021 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue

 Hi Theo!
 Interesting.  Steve Wickland has the McLeod in his Tiger.  He has been complaining about it for some time, I forget but I think his is causing
 the clutch to slip.  Tom Hall recommended to use hard line and fittings because the McLeod swivel ones leak (IIRC).
 Gary

 On 5/28/2021 7:55 PM, Theo Smit wrote:

I ended up making an anti-rotation bracket that located the McLeod throwout bearing and kept it from pulling on the swivel fittings. Without that, the fittings would leak a bit of fluid every time you applied the clutch with the engine running.  Theo 

On May 28, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

   Gary, the McLeod in "Blue" (Tom's med blue car) is still going strong after 25 years, so I'm not sure why he bailed. I think it is mostly because he's had no complaints about the Tilton and likes doing the conversion using their 7/8" master.  

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
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 Sent: Fri, May 28, 2021 6:50 pm
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    Thanks Mike,
 Ok, yeah he was recommending the McCleod with his mod to the fittings...
 Paul Reisentz also told me that McCLeod themselves did not recommend their part for use in Tigers!

 Tilton..  or are there any more details on your Australian job?
 Gary

  On 5/28/2021 5:22 PM, Michael Wood via Tigers wrote:

      I just talked to Tom. He's still using and recommending use of a hydraulic/annular TO bearing. But, he won't use the McLeod piece, only Tilton, these days.  
  Mike

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Well, I did some measuring today (by the way the new clutch and cylinder kits didn’t solve my problem) and thought I would pass on info for anybody that is interested.

The actual amount of movement of the slave cylinder with a full to the floor movement of the clutch peddle is .745”.  The measure of the piston movement from the very back to when the piston comes to the very front of the cylinder (not protruding) is like I mentioned before is 1.35”, so that leaves approximately .605” more potential movement to apply to the clutch arm.  I’m hoping the .700 Girling master cylinder I just ordered will take up just that amount. I can only hope.  HA!  If not I’ll pull the engine and tranny again and get a CF clutch.  As for a annular TO bearing, my friend has a highly modified Mazda with a 331 Ford engine for road racing with a annular TO bearing and it works very well with the stock master cylinder. I would be very interested in why TH doesn’t like them anymore.

Jerry  

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