[Tigers] Clutch issue

[Gary]

Mike,
Which one did you go with?
Paul R. told me Tom doesn’t recommend them anymore?
It seems like a great solution to me.
  Everyone always points out how hard it is
to replace it when it goes bad but it would
 be a lot easier than the one in my C5 and I
did have to do that but it lasted 120K.
Gary


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> On May 28, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com> wrote:
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> This whole discussion is part of the reason why I went to an annular throwout bearing on my car a number of years ago. The other reason was I just didn't like the affect all the external slave/arm geometry creates. I've been very happy with the change. 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> To: 'Gary' <garywinblad at comcast.net>; tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2021 8:50 am
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue
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> Gary
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>                 My point here is that if you drop the clutch rod you’re not going anywhere.
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> Your spring with the stock clip is excellent but what if something unexpected happens.
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> Rust happens, road debris happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happens, many things can happen out on the road.
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> Call it safety wire or tether wire, I want to make sure not matter what the clutch rod is not lost and I have to be towed.
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> Safety wire is usually stainless steel so it should not rust and it is just there with no tension or flexing, its just along for the ride until its needed.
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> Ron Fraser
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> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:10 AM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue
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> I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to hold the rod to the clutch arm,
> and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a way for it to fall out.
> And you will get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.
> Gary
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> On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
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> Jerry
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>                 I always recommend that everyone should put safety wire on the clutch rod – just in case the rod gets into a position it could fall.
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> If the clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it away car.
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> I think I have a safety wire on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; this should prevent the rod from ever totally leaving the car.
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> Ron Fraser
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> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Christopherson
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM
> To: Tiger Autox <TIGERS at AUTOX.TEAM.NET>
> Subject: [Tigers] Clutch issue
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> Thanks for the ideas from all of you.  The issue of a longer push rod (which I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the throw out bearing just so far.  Right now I’m touching the bearing (which I don’t want of course).  Today I received my order from S.S. (new kits for the master and slave) and it seems to have improved the issue, I’ll try driving the car tomorrow to see if it’s livable. I let someone talk me into a  RAM clutch, should have gone with a Centerforce maybe?  Rick from S. S. said people have had good luck with them.   I’m now of the feeling if you aren’t racing, a standard Mustang clutch is more than enough for the Tiger.  The idea of a higher volume (larger dia.) master also suggested by Rick, is that it will make the peddle force higher.  Another issue is how far can one allow the slave  piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder (mine does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in the manual).  Mine has a max movement of around 1.350, The piston could come out another .300 ,but that would have the front of the piston .300 past the end of the cylinder, probably not a good thing!
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> Thanks again for your responses!  Jerry
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