From blance598 at gmail.com Wed Feb 3 20:48:40 2021 From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 22:48:40 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires Message-ID: What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. Beau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jefferyrandall at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 05:24:37 2021 From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:24:37 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use Townfair Tire up here in the NE. They have a good selection of 13" tires that range from pizza cutters to 60 series. Myself I run 175/70 on the front and 205/60 on the rear of stock steel wheels. Jeff On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:51 PM Lance Beauchamp wrote: > What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest > purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. > > Beau > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phastphill at aol.com Fri Feb 5 11:08:35 2021 From: phastphill at aol.com (phastphill at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them.? What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger.? ? ? ? ? Beau_______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mise2527 at mypacks.net Fri Feb 5 14:41:43 2021 From: mise2527 at mypacks.net (mise2527 at mypacks.net) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 13:41:43 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 15 Message-ID: <1123001933.6220.1612561303602@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I just got: KUMHO SOLUS TA11 185/70R13 on all 4 corners I have a stock tiger with LAT-70 repro wheels. They look right on those rims on the car. Ride and handling is pretty good for all season tires. -----Original Message----- >From: tigers-request at autox.team.net >Sent: Feb 4, 2021 11:00 AM >To: tigers at autox.team.net >Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 15 > >Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers at autox.team.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request at autox.team.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner at autox.team.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Tires (Lance Beauchamp) > 2. Re: Tires (Jeffery Randall) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 22:48:40 -0500 >From: Lance Beauchamp >To: "Tiger Club. Submission" >Subject: [Tigers] Tires >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest >purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. > > Beau >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:24:37 -0500 >From: Jeffery Randall >To: Lance Beauchamp >Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" >Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >I use Townfair Tire up here in the NE. They have a good selection of 13" >tires that range from pizza cutters to 60 series. Myself I run 175/70 on >the front and 205/60 on the rear of stock steel wheels. > Jeff > >On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:51 PM Lance Beauchamp wrote: > >> What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest >> purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. >> >> Beau >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall at gmail.com >> >> >> >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: > >------------------------------ > >Subject: Digest Footer > >_______________________________________________ >Tigers mailing list >Tigers at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > >------------------------------ > >End of Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 15 >************************************** From robertdhogan at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 14:13:09 2021 From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 16:13:09 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear > nothing hits and work great > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm > Subject: [Tigers] Tires > > What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest > purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. > > Beau > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phastphill at aol.com Sat Feb 6 20:00:46 2021 From: phastphill at aol.com (phastphill at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 03:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1728227381.2351155.1612666846130@mail.yahoo.com> nope not great in the rain no tiger is -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hogan To: phastphill at aol.com Cc: blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2021 4:13 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the?Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only".Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers wrote: stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them.? What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger.? ? ? ? ? Beau_______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbsyv at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 23:37:44 2021 From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim B) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 22:37:44 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: <1728227381.2351155.1612666846130@mail.yahoo.com> References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> <1728227381.2351155.1612666846130@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1BA5DEA6-4665-4C22-B560-105769DCF99D@yahoo.com> But great on dry pavement > On Feb 6, 2021, at 7:00 PM, phastphill--- via Tigers wrote: > > nope not great in the rain no tiger is > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Hogan > To: phastphill at aol.com > Cc: blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2021 4:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires > > One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". > Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers > wrote: > stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp > > To: Tiger Club. Submission > > Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm > Subject: [Tigers] Tires > > What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. > > Beau > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 14:32:26 2021 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:32:26 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better than the BEST tire when these cars were new. So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason: (1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads; (2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not designed for. So that will accelerate damage. And the Tigers, with their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on. That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in ?serious bodily injury or death.? On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers > wrote: stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. 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URL: From mwood24020 at aol.com Sat Feb 6 14:53:43 2021 From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <152052880.2048810.1612648423788@mail.yahoo.com> The R888 is an R-comp, but has full tread, works fine in the rain and provides good grip. I wish they still made the RA1 in 13" sizes, better tire all around and would be my first choice for 13's. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hogan To: phastphill at aol.com Cc: blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2021 1:24 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the?Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only".Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers wrote: stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them.? What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger.? ? ? ? ? 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URL: From robertdhogan at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 16:44:57 2021 From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:44:57 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to puncture. Correct? On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay wrote: > Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better than > the BEST tire when these cars were new. > > So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason: > (1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads; > (2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not > designed for. So that will accelerate damage. And the Tigers, with their > Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on. > That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in > ?serious bodily injury or death.? > > > > On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: > > One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes > R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". > Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers < > tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear >> nothing hits and work great >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lance Beauchamp >> To: Tiger Club. Submission >> Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm >> Subject: [Tigers] Tires >> >> What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest >> purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. >> >> Beau >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertdhogan at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 16:48:57 2021 From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:48:57 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used BFG 235R50-13' TA Radials on my Tiger before they aged out without any danger to the lower a-arm pivot bars. On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 6:44 PM Rob Hogan wrote: > The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved > road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to > puncture. Correct? > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay wrote: > >> Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better >> than the BEST tire when these cars were new. >> >> So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason: >> (1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads; >> (2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not >> designed for. So that will accelerate damage. And the Tigers, with their >> Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on. >> That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in >> ?serious bodily injury or death.? >> >> >> >> On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: >> >> One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes >> R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". >> Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? >> >> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers < >> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear >>> nothing hits and work great >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lance Beauchamp >>> To: Tiger Club. Submission >>> Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm >>> Subject: [Tigers] Tires >>> >>> What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest >>> purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. >>> >>> Beau >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> tigers at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> tigers at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 19:38:01 2021 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:38:01 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8EA5146D-1A99-410E-9A02-BE54927E7B49@gmail.com> I would suggest that there was danger to the pivot bars - and probably further weakening. It's just that they didn?t break while the tires were on the car. :-) On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: I used BFG 235R50-13' TA Radials on my Tiger before they aged out without any danger to the lower a-arm pivot bars. On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 6:44 PM Rob Hogan > wrote: The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to puncture. Correct? On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay > wrote: Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better than the BEST tire when these cars were new. So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason: (1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads; (2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not designed for. So that will accelerate damage. And the Tigers, with their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on. That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in ?serious bodily injury or death.? On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan > wrote: One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? Virus-free. www.avast.com <> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers > wrote: stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. 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URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 19:42:11 2021 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:42:11 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don?t know about other dangers. For example, are road tires designed to be more puncture resistant because roads are apt to have more sharp objects? Are road tires designed to stand up to harsher shock if they hit a pot hole? Is the lifespan of the R888rs so short on the road that a driver may not be cognizant of how far they have degraded with a ?normal? road use? Like I said, I don?t know the answers to these questions. I?m also of the opinion that companies have to put on warnings simply because their attorneys tell them to. So here, where the tires are designed for a specific purpose and conditions, and they don?t give any attention to road hazards, they simply may not know the answer. Thus the warning. On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to puncture. Correct? On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay > wrote: Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better than the BEST tire when these cars were new. So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason: (1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads; (2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not designed for. So that will accelerate damage. And the Tigers, with their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on. That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in ?serious bodily injury or death.? On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan > wrote: One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? Virus-free. www.avast.com <> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers > wrote: stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. 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URL: From blance598 at gmail.com Sun Feb 7 10:52:36 2021 From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:52:36 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires Message-ID: I'm sorry. I made a slight error when I said the Tiger was stock, I meant eng wise. Tires an wheels are not. Right now I'm running 15" panasports, and had my rear springs rearched to raise the car app 2 1/2 inches. Now its time to replace the tires, running Kumos right now, there getting old. Beau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbsyv at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 20:40:14 2021 From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim Buster) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 19:40:14 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B83F794-4752-4997-B5D1-65EF63BCD2CC@yahoo.com> I?m running Dunlop Direzza 195/50 front 205/50 15 rear. I like em. > On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Lance Beauchamp wrote: > > ? > I'm sorry. I made a slight error when I said the Tiger was stock, I meant eng wise. Tires an wheels are not. Right now I'm running 15" panasports, and had my rear springs rearched to raise the car app 2 1/2 inches. > Now its time to replace the tires, running Kumos right now, there getting old. Beau > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > From blance598 at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 10:32:07 2021 From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 12:32:07 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: <3B83F794-4752-4997-B5D1-65EF63BCD2CC@yahoo.com> References: <3B83F794-4752-4997-B5D1-65EF63BCD2CC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I'll check them out. On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, 10:40 PM Jim Buster wrote: > I?m running Dunlop Direzza 195/50 front 205/50 15 rear. I like em. > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Lance Beauchamp wrote: > > > > ? > > I'm sorry. I made a slight error when I said the Tiger was stock, I > meant eng wise. Tires an wheels are not. Right now I'm running 15" > panasports, and had my rear springs rearched to raise the car app 2 1/2 > inches. > > Now its time to replace the tires, running Kumos right now, there > getting old. Beau > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwood24020 at aol.com Sun Feb 7 11:04:32 2021 From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 18:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1571000619.2432133.1612721072196@mail.yahoo.com> The R888 is not going to be more prone to puncture than any other lower TW rated tire. The R-comp "not suitable for highway use" disclaimer is mandated, but not all R-comps are the same. e.g. Would I use Hoosier A7's on the street? Nope, they're basically slicks and soft as hell. But, the treaded R-comps I've never shied away from, whether RA1, R888, Victoracer etc etc and have never had a problem, This is on many cars, not just my Tiger. They will wear much faster, they will not have the same type of siping capability of a true all weather street tire and they will likely bring more impact harshness to the table. But, first time you commit to a turn at a "spirited" rate of speed, you'll appreciate the grip :) Agree on the increased loads to suspension components. Make sure everything is in good shape, especially bushings and bearings. -----Original Message----- From: Jay To: Rob Hogan Cc: blance598 at gmail.com ; Tigers Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2021 9:38 am Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires I don?t know about other dangers. ?For example, are road tires designed to be more puncture resistant because roads are apt to have more sharp objects? ?Are road tires designed to stand up to harsher shock if they hit a pot hole? ?Is the lifespan of the R888rs so short on the road that a driver may not be cognizant of how far they have degraded with a ?normal? road use? Like I said, I don?t know the answers to these questions. ?I?m also of the opinion that companies have to put on warnings simply because their attorneys tell them to. ?So here, where the tires are designed for a specific purpose and conditions, and they don?t give any attention to road hazards, they simply may not know the answer. ?Thus the warning. On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to puncture.? Correct?? On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay wrote: Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better than the BEST tire when these cars were new. So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason:(1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads;(2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not designed for.? So that will accelerate damage.? And the Tigers, with their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on.? That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in ?serious bodily injury or death.? On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan wrote: One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the?Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only".Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers wrote: stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them.? What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger.? ? ? ? ? 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URL: From tsmit at shaw.ca Sun Feb 7 16:49:27 2021 From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 16:49:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Tigers] Tires In-Reply-To: <8EA5146D-1A99-410E-9A02-BE54927E7B49@gmail.com> References: <595095359.2083189.1612548515174@mail.yahoo.com> <8EA5146D-1A99-410E-9A02-BE54927E7B49@gmail.com> Message-ID: <572876217.206754229.1612741767672.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> You know, if your driving style, suspension condition and/or tire choices are such that you are worried about the condition of the lower fulcrum pins, then you should probably replace them and maybe consider one of the various means of reinforcing the lower control arm mounts. There are few other pieces on your 55 year old car that are more critical to it continuing to go down the road in the direction you want. Theo From: "Jay Laifman" To: "Rob Hogan" Cc: "Lance Beauchamp" , "tigers" Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38:01 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires I would suggest that there was danger to the pivot bars - and probably further weakening. It's just that they didn?t break while the tires were on the car. :-) On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Rob Hogan < [ mailto:robertdhogan at gmail.com | robertdhogan at gmail.com ] > wrote: I used BFG 235R50-13' TA Radials on my Tiger before they aged out without any danger to the lower a-arm pivot bars. On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 6:44 PM Rob Hogan < [ mailto:robertdhogan at gmail.com | robertdhogan at gmail.com ] > wrote: The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to puncture. Correct? On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay < [ mailto:jay.laifman at gmail.com | jay.laifman at gmail.com ] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better than the BEST tire when these cars were new. So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason: (1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads; (2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not designed for. So that will accelerate damage. And the Tigers, with their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A arms on. That?s not a good thing to happen on the road - can definitely result in ?serious bodily injury or death.? On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan < [ mailto:robertdhogan at gmail.com | robertdhogan at gmail.com ] > wrote: One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only". Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety issue? [ https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon ] Virus-free. [ https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link | www.avast.com ] On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers < [ mailto:tigers at autox.team.net | tigers at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear nothing hits and work great -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp < [ mailto:blance598 at gmail.com | blance598 at gmail.com ] > To: Tiger Club. Submission < [ mailto:tigers at autox.team.net | tigers at autox.team.net ] > Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm Subject: [Tigers] Tires What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest purchasing them. What are we running front and back, totally stock Tiger. 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URL: From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Tue Feb 9 17:56:22 2021 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 00:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] tires References: <1844075778.13637.1612918582934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1844075778.13637.1612918582934@mail.yahoo.com> I have used both the RA1 and the R888, both worked well for me on Minilights, the RA1's I used 205/60x13 all around because they didn't have 185's for the front. I really didn't like the look because they stuck out from the fender a bit. Later went to the R888's with 205 on the rear and 185's on the front and I like the ?fitness look better. I have been caught in the rain with booth, slow down and no problem. ?I have replaced my control arm pivot pins with the new better material ones. ?My dilemma is what to put on my stock steel wheels with hub caps if I try to show in concours, even the high price old repos from Crocker Tire are not the exact correct size, so .... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.s.king at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 18:54:56 2021 From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:54:56 +0800 Subject: [Tigers] tires In-Reply-To: <1844075778.13637.1612918582934@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1844075778.13637.1612918582934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1844075778.13637.1612918582934@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think the closest for original wheels that are a reasonable price and "almost" the correct width whitewall stripe are the maxxis MA1 165/80/13s. A few friends have fitted these to their tigers and apines and find them a decent tyre for normal road use. On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 09:07, clyde mclaughlin via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have used both the RA1 and the R888, both worked well for me on > Minilights, the RA1's I used 205/60x13 all around because they didn't have > 185's for the front. I really didn't like the look because they stuck out > from the fender a bit. Later went to the R888's with 205 on the rear and > 185's on the front and I like the fitness look better. I have been caught > in the rain with booth, slow down and no problem. I have replaced my > control arm pivot pins with the new better material ones. My dilemma is > what to put on my stock steel wheels with hub caps if I try to show in > concours, even the high price old repos from Crocker Tire are not the exact > correct size, so .... > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 8:57 PM michael king wrote: > I think the closest for original wheels that are a reasonable price and > "almost" the correct width whitewall stripe are the maxxis MA1 165/80/13s. > A few friends have fitted these to their tigers and apines and find them a > decent tyre for normal road use. > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 09:07, clyde mclaughlin via Tigers < > tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I have used both the RA1 and the R888, both worked well for me on >> Minilights, the RA1's I used 205/60x13 all around because they didn't have >> 185's for the front. I really didn't like the look because they stuck out >> from the fender a bit. Later went to the R888's with 205 on the rear and >> 185's on the front and I like the fitness look better. I have been caught >> in the rain with booth, slow down and no problem. I have replaced my >> control arm pivot pins with the new better material ones. My dilemma is >> what to put on my stock steel wheels with hub caps if I try to show in >> concours, even the high price old repos from Crocker Tire are not the exact >> correct size, so .... >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king at gmail.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: