From tlawell at austin.rr.com  Tue Aug 17 15:56:26 2021
From: tlawell at austin.rr.com (Terry Lawell)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 16:56:26 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Sunvisors
Message-ID: <611C308A.9080402@austin.rr.com>

Does anyone know where I can get a pair of sunvisors and mounting 
hardware for a 66 sunbeam tiger mk1a?

Cheers, Terry

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Aug 17 17:15:51 2021
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:15:51 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Sunvisors
In-Reply-To: <611C308A.9080402@austin.rr.com>
References: <611C308A.9080402@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001e01d793bd$d32e7c20$798b7460$@bluefrog.com>

Terry
	Sunbeam Specialties lists them - visors IP84, bracket set IP83
You need to contact them for more info.

Next choice is ebay or the people on this list or similar lists.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:56 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Sunvisors

Does anyone know where I can get a pair of sunvisors and mounting hardware
for a 66 sunbeam tiger mk1a?

Cheers, Terry
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Aug 17 19:45:20 2021
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 21:45:20 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Sunvisors
In-Reply-To: <41C0621C-45FD-4A72-B055-60EEF0EDD94B@cs.com>
References: <001e01d793bd$d32e7c20$798b7460$@bluefrog.com>
 <41C0621C-45FD-4A72-B055-60EEF0EDD94B@cs.com>
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Steve
	I'm not sure about that.  Seems to me I only bought the visors and they were fine with my brackets.
Rick is the one who would know for sure.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: STEPHEN HALBROOK <sjhcobra1 at cs.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:41 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunvisors

>From what I recall you need to buy visors and brackets from them. I don?t think that you can mix old parts with new parts.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Terry
>    Sunbeam Specialties lists them - visors IP84, bracket set IP83 You 
> need to contact them for more info.
> 
> Next choice is ebay or the people on this list or similar lists.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Terry Lawell
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:56 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Sunvisors
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get a pair of sunvisors and mounting 
> hardware for a 66 sunbeam tiger mk1a?
> 
> Cheers, Terry
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 11:20:59 2021
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:20:59 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
In-Reply-To: <000501d78486$eced7cb0$c6c87610$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CAKb_wfkEtv-xaq0+3JXht7cw9SJ8Bd_XXWcy1a5FKph5bNCRVg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <000501d78486$eced7cb0$c6c87610$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <CAKb_wfk0hgX0H-i6z7nunr0t2niCjhKo3eVXcekLbM0du4_i+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering a
Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  And
since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a
mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling for
about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out
for a long drive and see how it does.

Thanks for all of the info from everybody.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Jim
>
>                 Thank you for the pictures.
>
>
>
> It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.
>
>
>
> This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a
> Chrysler part number ? excellent.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
> *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb
> chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of
> plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>
> Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List
> Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the
> Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and
> Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List
> 6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for
> "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possible
> that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb.
> caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
>
>
> The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that
> number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.
> All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did
> find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.
> I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
> what they have.
>
>
>
> Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for
> Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger
> and he said the pressure rating was too low.
>
>
>
> Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm
> only finding used ones.
>
>
>
> If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please
> let me know what you got.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to
> B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>
>
> I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you
> described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the
> series V.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
> 1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521
>
> 5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894
>
> 1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895
>
>
>
> Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates
> Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>
>
> I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to
> see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
>                 I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam
> Specialties.
>
> Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
> Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
>
> I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any
> overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
>
>
>
> The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
>
>
>
> Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with
> early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated
> header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>
>
> Well, no really good help there.
>
>
>
> I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct
>
>
>
> Ron  Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be
> using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's
> website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.  I
> almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the
> engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from
> the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and
> got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap
> to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like
> .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.
>
>
>
> A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the
> pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
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From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 18 12:05:36 2021
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 18:05:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wfk0hgX0H-i6z7nunr0t2niCjhKo3eVXcekLbM0du4_i+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKb_wfkEtv-xaq0+3JXht7cw9SJ8Bd_XXWcy1a5FKph5bNCRVg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <000501d78486$eced7cb0$c6c87610$@bluefrog.com>
 <CAKb_wfk0hgX0H-i6z7nunr0t2niCjhKo3eVXcekLbM0du4_i+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1770300665.1922693.1629309936369@mail.yahoo.com>

 Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.?? They were about 10 years apart.??? Both failed soon after installation.??? The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and it also failed.??? Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.
Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short drives.?? Dimensions looked identical.?? Your results may vary.? Just keep an eye on it.

Doug

    On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.? I wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.? And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.? After idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.? Now I need to take it out for a long drive and see how it does.
Thanks for all of the info from everybody.
Thanks,Joe Brown
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


Jim 

??????????????? Thank you for the pictures.

?

It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.

?

This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.

?

Ron Fraser

?

From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

?

Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.? The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".?

?

Jim D

?

Sent from my Galaxy

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 

Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> 

Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net> 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap 

?

Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the Tigers up to? B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron has? Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.????Parts List? 6601131? says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.? This seems to contradict what is in TBON.? Is it possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?

?

The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.? All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.? I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.? I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at what they have.??

?

Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for Alpines, not Tigers.? I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was too low.??

?

Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.

?

If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please let me know what you got.

?

Thanks,

Joe Brown

?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:


I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that?

?

I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.

?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.

1224725??????????????? Header Tank?????? up to B382001521

5221224??????????????? Header Tank?????? from B382001522 to B382001894

1236126??????????????? Header Tank ????? from B382001895

?

Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.

?

I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.

?

Ron Fraser

?

From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

?

Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.

?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


Joe

??????????????? I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam Specialties.

Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.

Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.

I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.?? Catches any overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.

?

The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.

?

Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.

?

Well, no really good help there.

?

I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct

?

Ron? Fraser

?

?

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
To: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

?

Hi,

?

I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be using.? I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.? I almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the engine warms up.? I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and got .777".? I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like .75".? So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.??

?

A brand name and part number would be great? And also, what should the pressure rating be?? What I have is 13 lbs.

?

Thanks,

Joe Brown




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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 18 12:25:27 2021
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
In-Reply-To: <1770300665.1922693.1629309936369@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAKb_wfkEtv-xaq0+3JXht7cw9SJ8Bd_XXWcy1a5FKph5bNCRVg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAKb_wfk0hgX0H-i6z7nunr0t2niCjhKo3eVXcekLbM0du4_i+Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1770300665.1922693.1629309936369@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1775750672.1145497.1629311127845@mail.yahoo.com>

 I sold these 20 or so years ago for Tigers, and had no complaints. I believe the "Drake" caps are reproductions of this cap. They are now obsolete, but a few Ford dealers have some in stock, see link.
Ford #C9ZZ-8100-A or Motorcraft # RS-512A. Application was a dress cap for 1969 Mustangs.

https://www.rearcounter.com/C9ZZ-8100-A-parts392982.html
David Franchi
 

    On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 11:06:18 AM PDT, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.?? They were about 10 years apart.??? Both failed soon after installation.??? The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and it also failed.??? Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.
Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short drives.?? Dimensions looked identical.?? Your results may vary.? Just keep an eye on it.

Doug

    On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.? I wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.? And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.? After idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.? Now I need to take it out for a long drive and see how it does.
Thanks for all of the info from everybody.
Thanks,Joe Brown
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


Jim 

??????????????? Thank you for the pictures.

?

It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.

?

This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.

?

Ron Fraser

?

From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

?

Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.? The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".?

?

Jim D

?

Sent from my Galaxy

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 

Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> 

Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net> 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap 

?

Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the Tigers up to? B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron has? Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.????Parts List? 6601131? says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.? This seems to contradict what is in TBON.? Is it possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?

?

The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.? All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.? I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.? I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at what they have.??

?

Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for Alpines, not Tigers.? I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was too low.??

?

Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.

?

If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please let me know what you got.

?

Thanks,

Joe Brown

?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:


I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that?

?

I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.

?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.

1224725??????????????? Header Tank?????? up to B382001521

5221224??????????????? Header Tank?????? from B382001522 to B382001894

1236126??????????????? Header Tank ????? from B382001895

?

Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.

?

I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.

?

Ron Fraser

?

From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

?

Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.

?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


Joe

??????????????? I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam Specialties.

Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.

Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.

I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.?? Catches any overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.

?

The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.

?

Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.

?

Well, no really good help there.

?

I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct

?

Ron? Fraser

?

?

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
To: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

?

Hi,

?

I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be using.? I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.? I almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the engine warms up.? I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and got .777".? I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like .75".? So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.??

?

A brand name and part number would be great? And also, what should the pressure rating be?? What I have is 13 lbs.

?

Thanks,

Joe Brown




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From randya at pacbell.net  Wed Aug 18 23:05:18 2021
From: randya at pacbell.net (Randall Antosiak)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 05:05:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Engine Cradle or Storage Stand Recommendation
References: <264440816.38142.1629349519159.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <264440816.38142.1629349519159@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Tiger People - I wanted to share a positive experience I had with an engine cradle or storage stand.? I was planning on pulling my engine and needed a stand for it.? I prefer to buy rather than make if the price is right, and this stand from Speedway Motors is certainly cheap enough at $45.? I also bought the caster wheel kit for another $50.? I"m happy to say that it can hold both the engine and transmission.? It rolls smoothly and easily, and did not become unbalanced when I removed the transmission.? Another plus is that I did not have to remove the starter to pull the engine.? However, there isn't enough room for more than a few inches of the exhaust header pipes so these will have to be cut back if you cannot remove them.
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 00:38:29 2021
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:38:29 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
In-Reply-To: <1770300665.1922693.1629309936369@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAKb_wfkEtv-xaq0+3JXht7cw9SJ8Bd_XXWcy1a5FKph5bNCRVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20210728172153.3AFF450F@m0117117.ppops.net>
 <000501d78486$eced7cb0$c6c87610$@bluefrog.com>
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doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very
slightly to shallow?

On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.   They were about
> 10 years apart.    Both failed soon after installation.    The 10 year gap
> was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years
> later I bought another and it also failed.    Ended up finding an NOS cap
> and that solved the problem.
>
> Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short
> drives.   Dimensions looked identical.   Your results may vary.  Just keep
> an eye on it.
>
>
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <
> jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering
> a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  And
> since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a
> mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling for
> about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out
> for a long drive and see how it does.
>
> Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Jim
>
>                 Thank you for the pictures.
>
>
>
> It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.
>
>
>
> This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a
> Chrysler part number ? excellent.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
> *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb
> chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of
> plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>
> Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List
> Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the
> Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and
> Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List
> 6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for
> "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possible
> that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb.
> caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
>
>
> The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that
> number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.
> All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did
> find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.
> I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
> what they have.
>
>
>
> Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for
> Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger
> and he said the pressure rating was too low.
>
>
>
> Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm
> only finding used ones.
>
>
>
> If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please
> let me know what you got.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to
> B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>
>
> I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you
> described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the
> series V.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
> 1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521
>
> 5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894
>
> 1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895
>
>
>
> Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates
> Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>
>
> I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to
> see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
>                 I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam
> Specialties.
>
> Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
> Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
>
> I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any
> overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
>
>
>
> The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
>
>
>
> Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with
> early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated
> header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>
>
> Well, no really good help there.
>
>
>
> I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct
>
>
>
> Ron  Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be
> using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's
> website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.  I
> almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the
> engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from
> the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and
> got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap
> to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like
> .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.
>
>
>
> A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the
> pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
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>
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>
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Thu Aug 19 07:25:52 2021
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 06:25:52 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snUmu8RgK8sak8h9Kg1GSmnSgoiw=2xgEG158hn97rqwjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKb_wfkEtv-xaq0+3JXht7cw9SJ8Bd_XXWcy1a5FKph5bNCRVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20210728172153.3AFF450F@m0117117.ppops.net>
 <000501d78486$eced7cb0$c6c87610$@bluefrog.com>
 <CAKb_wfk0hgX0H-i6z7nunr0t2niCjhKo3eVXcekLbM0du4_i+Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1770300665.1922693.1629309936369@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snUmu8RgK8sak8h9Kg1GSmnSgoiw=2xgEG158hn97rqwjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1d51879-d6ec-7f8b-5cc5-c43dcae05abe@comcast.net>

Or you were just over filling it.
It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets 
down to where it needs to be.
Gary


On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
> doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very 
> slightly to shallow?
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.?? They
>     were about 10 years apart.??? Both failed soon after
>     installation.??? The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that
>     the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and
>     it also failed. Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the
>     problem.
>
>     Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after
>     short drives.?? Dimensions looked identical.?? Your results may
>     vary.? Just keep an eye on it.
>
>
>     Doug
>
>     On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown
>     <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.? I wound up
>     ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits
>     really well.? And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really
>     high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my
>     Edelbrock intake.? After idling for about 20 minutes the temp
>     never got over 190.? Now I need to take it out for a long drive
>     and see how it does.
>
>     Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Joe Brown
>
>     On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>     <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>> wrote:
>
>         Jim
>
>         ??????????????? Thank you for the pictures.
>
>         It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.
>
>         This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List
>         is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.
>
>         Ron Fraser
>
>         *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net
>         <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net>>
>         *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
>         *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>>; Ron Fraser
>         <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>         *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>         <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>         *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>         Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818
>         and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.? The 9lb cap measures 1"
>         from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps
>         measure 1-1/8".
>
>         Jim D
>
>         Sent from my Galaxy
>
>         -------- Original message --------
>
>         From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net
>         <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
>
>         Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
>         To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>         <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>
>         Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>         <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>
>         Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>         Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts
>         List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this
>         only covers the Tigers up to? B382001521 because it only shows
>         the 1224725 header tank and Ron has? Parts List 6601334 which
>         show two more tanks.????Parts List 6601131? says the 9 lb. cap
>         is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.?
>         This seems to contradict what is in TBON.? Is it possible that
>         some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went
>         to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
>         The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I
>         Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number
>         from back in the day.? All of the usual sources want to cross
>         this over to a 13 lb. cap. I did find a 9 lb. cap made by
>         Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.? I guess I
>         will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
>         what they have.
>
>         Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they
>         are for Alpines, not Tigers.? I asked Rick if any of them
>         would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was
>         too low.
>
>         Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land
>         Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.
>
>         If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working
>         fine please let me know what you got.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Joe Brown
>
>         On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown
>         <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb.
>             cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>             I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number
>             RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the
>             Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.
>
>             On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser
>             <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
>                 1224725 Header Tank?????? up to B382001521
>
>                 5221224 Header Tank?????? from B382001522 to B382001894
>
>                 1236126 Header Tank ????? from B382001895
>
>                 Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank
>                 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>                 I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header
>                 tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
>                 Ron Fraser
>
>                 *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>>
>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
>                 *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>                 <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>                 *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>                 <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>                 *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>                 Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
>                 On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser
>                 <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                     Joe
>
>                     ??????????????? I believe I bought my radiator cap
>                     from Sunbeam Specialties.
>
>                     Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
>                     Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
>
>                     I installed a catch bottle for the header tank
>                     overflow.?? Catches any overflow which gets sucked
>                     back in when the engine cools.
>
>                     The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13
>                     lbs. early cars.
>
>                     Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates
>                     B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and
>                     9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1^st Tiger with updated
>                     header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>                     Well, no really good help there.
>
>                     I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for
>                     later cars is correct
>
>                     Ron? Fraser
>
>                     *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
>                     <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>> *On Behalf
>                     Of *Joe Brown
>                     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
>                     *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>                     <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>                     *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>                     Hi,
>
>                     I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what
>                     radiator cap I should be using.? I've tried a cap
>                     that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's
>                     website but I think the pressure spring part under
>                     the cap is too short.? I almost immediately start
>                     getting water out of the overflow tube as the
>                     engine warms up.? I measured the depth of the
>                     expansion tank opening from the top edge to the
>                     flange where the spring part of the cap would sit
>                     and got .777".? I measured the cap from the big
>                     rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber
>                     seal at the end of the spring and got something
>                     like .75".? So it looks like I need a cap with a
>                     longer spring stem.
>
>                     A brand name and part number would be great And
>                     also, what should the pressure rating be?? What I
>                     have is 13 lbs.
>
>                     Thanks,
>
>                     Joe Brown
>
>     _______________________________________________
>
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>
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>
>
> -- 
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>
> Michael King
>
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From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 08:24:55 2021
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:24:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
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 <000501d78486$eced7cb0$c6c87610$@bluefrog.com>
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 It wasn't just finding its level.??? The cap looked identical....possibly a weaker spec spring.???? It was irritating to realize I'd gone down that road before.?? It did look good just didn't work.?? 

Doug

    On Thursday, August 19, 2021, 6:26:05 AM PDT, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
  Or you were just over filling it.
 It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets down to where it needs to be.
 Gary
 
 
 On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
  
 
 doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very slightly to shallow?
 
 On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
   Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.?? They were about 10 years apart.??? Both failed soon after installation.??? The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and it also failed.??? Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem. 
  Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short drives.?? Dimensions looked identical.?? Your results may vary.? Just keep an eye on it. 
  
  Doug
  
      On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:  
  
     I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.? I wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.? And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.? After idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.? Now I need to take it out for a long drive and see how it does. 
  Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody. 
  Thanks, Joe Brown  
   On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
  
   
Jim 
 
??????????????? Thank you for the pictures.
 
?
 
It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.
 
?
 
This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.
 
?
 
Ron Fraser
 
?
   
From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
 To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
 Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
   
?
  
Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.? The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".?
   
?
   
Jim D
   
?
    
Sent from my Galaxy
    
?
   
?
   
-------- Original message --------
   
From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 
   
Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) 
   
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> 
   
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net> 
   
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap 
   
?
   
Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the Tigers up to? B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron has? Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.????Parts List? 6601131? says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.? This seems to contradict what is in TBON.? Is it possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?
  
?
   
The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.? All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.? I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.? I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at what they have.??
   
?
   
Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for Alpines, not Tigers.? I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was too low.??
   
?
   
Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.
   
?
   
If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please let me know what you got.
   
?
   
Thanks,
   
Joe Brown
   
?
   
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
  
  
I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that?
  
?
   
I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.
   
?
   
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
  
   
Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
 
1224725??????????????? Header Tank?????? up to B382001521
 
5221224??????????????? Header Tank?????? from B382001522 to B382001894
 
1236126??????????????? Header Tank ????? from B382001895
 
?
 
Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.
 
?
 
I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.
 
?
 
Ron Fraser
 
?
 
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
 To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
 Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
 
?
  
Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
  
?
   
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
  
   
Joe
 
??????????????? I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam Specialties.
 
Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
 
Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
 
I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.?? Catches any overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
 
?
 
The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
 
?
 
Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.
 
?
 
Well, no really good help there.
 
?
 
I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct
 
?
 
Ron? Fraser
 
?
 
?
 
?
 
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > On Behalf Of Joe Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
 To: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
 Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
 
?
  
Hi,
  
?
   
I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be using.? I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.? I almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the engine warms up.? I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and got .777".? I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like .75".? So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.??
   
?
   
A brand name and part number would be great? And also, what should the pressure rating be?? What I have is 13 lbs.
   
?
   
Thanks,
   
Joe Brown
     
    
  
    
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From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 11:38:32 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
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This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need that kind of information on hand for future reference.

 

I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the system.

Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your priority.

Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while driving or stopping.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM
To: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle at yahoo.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Or you were just over filling it.
It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets down to where it needs to be.
Gary



On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:

doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very slightly to shallow?

On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.   They were about 10 years apart.    Both failed soon after installation.    The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and it also failed.    Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.

 

Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short drives.   Dimensions looked identical.   Your results may vary.  Just keep an eye on it.

 

 

Doug

 

On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out for a long drive and see how it does. 

 

Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

 

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

Jim 

                Thank you for the pictures.

 

It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.

 

This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8". 

 

Jim D

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

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From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > 

Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap 

 

Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List  6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?

 

The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.  All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.  I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at what they have.  

 

Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was too low.  

 

Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.

 

If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please let me know what you got.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> > wrote:

I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that 

 

I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.

1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521

5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894

1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895

 

Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.

 

I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

Joe

                I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam Specialties.

Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.

Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.

I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.

 

The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.

 

Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.

 

Well, no really good help there.

 

I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct

 

Ron  Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
To: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Hi,

 

I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.  I almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.  

 

A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 09:51:30 2021
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 10:51:30 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
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For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer
bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.
I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the
inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the
plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might
suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph
that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger,
https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of
pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer
> and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the
> Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need
> that kind of information on hand for future reference.
>
>
>
> I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know
> exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the
> system.
>
> Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your
> priority.
>
> Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind
> and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while
> driving or stopping.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Gary
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM
> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <
> douglasalyle at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Or you were just over filling it.
> It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets down
> to where it needs to be.
> Gary
>
> On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
>
> doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very
> slightly to shallow?
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.   They were about
> 10 years apart.    Both failed soon after installation.    The 10 year gap
> was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years
> later I bought another and it also failed.    Ended up finding an NOS cap
> and that solved the problem.
>
>
>
> Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short
> drives.   Dimensions looked identical.   Your results may vary.  Just keep
> an eye on it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <
> jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering
> a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  And
> since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a
> mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling for
> about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out
> for a long drive and see how it does.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Jim
>
>                 Thank you for the pictures.
>
>
>
> It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.
>
>
>
> This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a
> Chrysler part number ? excellent.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
> *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb
> chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of
> plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>
> Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List
> Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the
> Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and
> Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List
> 6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for
> "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possible
> that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb.
> caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
>
>
> The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that
> number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.
> All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did
> find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.
> I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
> what they have.
>
>
>
> Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for
> Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger
> and he said the pressure rating was too low.
>
>
>
> Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm
> only finding used ones.
>
>
>
> If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please
> let me know what you got.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to
> B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>
>
> I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you
> described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the
> series V.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
> 1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521
>
> 5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894
>
> 1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895
>
>
>
> Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates
> Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>
>
> I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to
> see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
>                 I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam
> Specialties.
>
> Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
> Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
>
> I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any
> overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
>
>
>
> The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
>
>
>
> Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with
> early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated
> header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>
>
> Well, no really good help there.
>
>
>
> I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct
>
>
>
> Ron  Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be
> using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's
> website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.  I
> almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the
> engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from
> the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and
> got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap
> to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like
> .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.
>
>
>
> A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the
> pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
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>
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>
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From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 12:00:08 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
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Here is what I did on my Series 200 Griffith.

I wanted to hide the overflow tank, so we (Bob Cuneo) took an old fire extinguisher, cut/sectioned/welded it so it would fit (on the Griffith) close to the tubular frame and not be obvious.

It is difficult to see in the photo labeled ?surge tank installed? how well it hides, but it is really hard to spot. Note: I had the red cap reanodized black to make it less obvious.

 

Don

 

For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.  I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger, https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.

 

Have Fun,

Joe Brown

 

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need that kind of information on hand for future reference.

 

I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the system.

Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your priority.

Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while driving or stopping.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM
To: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle at yahoo.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Or you were just over filling it.
It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets down to where it needs to be.
Gary

On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:

doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very slightly to shallow?

On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.   They were about 10 years apart.    Both failed soon after installation.    The 10 year gap was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years later I bought another and it also failed.    Ended up finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.

 

Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short drives.   Dimensions looked identical.   Your results may vary.  Just keep an eye on it.

 

 

Doug

 

On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote: 

 

 

I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  And since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out for a long drive and see how it does. 

 

Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

 

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Jim 

                Thank you for the pictures.

 

It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.

 

This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8". 

 

Jim D

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 

Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> 

Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net> 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap 

 

Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List  6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they changes the header tanks?

 

The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.  All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.  I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at what they have.  

 

Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger and he said the pressure rating was too low.  

 

Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.

 

If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please let me know what you got.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:

I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that 

 

I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the series V.

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.

1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521

5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894

1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895

 

Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.

 

I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to see which Filler Cap they indicate.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Joe

                I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam Specialties.

Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.

Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.

I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.

 

The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.

 

Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.

 

Well, no really good help there.

 

I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct

 

Ron  Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
To: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

Hi,

 

I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.  I almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.  

 

A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 10:20:09 2021
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 11:20:09 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
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Beautiful.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:01 AM Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Here is what I did on my Series 200 Griffith.
>
> I wanted to hide the overflow tank, so we (Bob Cuneo) took an old fire
> extinguisher, cut/sectioned/welded it so it would fit (on the Griffith)
> close to the tubular frame and not be obvious.
>
> It is difficult to see in the photo labeled ?surge tank installed? how
> well it hides, but it is really hard to spot. Note: I had the red cap
> reanodized black to make it less obvious.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
> For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer
> bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.
> I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the
> inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the
> plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might
> suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph
> that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger,
> https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of
> pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.
>
>
>
> Have Fun,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer
> and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the
> Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need
> that kind of information on hand for future reference.
>
>
>
> I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know
> exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the
> system.
>
> Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your
> priority.
>
> Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind
> and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while
> driving or stopping.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Gary
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM
> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <
> douglasalyle at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Or you were just over filling it.
> It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it gets down
> to where it needs to be.
> Gary
>
> On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
>
> doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that perhaps very
> slightly to shallow?
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.   They were about
> 10 years apart.    Both failed soon after installation.    The 10 year gap
> was because I had forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years
> later I bought another and it also failed.    Ended up finding an NOS cap
> and that solved the problem.
>
>
>
> Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out after short
> drives.   Dimensions looked identical.   Your results may vary.  Just keep
> an eye on it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown <
> jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.  I wound up ordering
> a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony Parts and it fits really well.  And
> since my temp gauge was always pegged out really high I installed a
> mechanical temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.  After idling for
> about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.  Now I need to take it out
> for a long drive and see how it does.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Jim
>
>                 Thank you for the pictures.
>
>
>
> It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good to know.
>
>
>
> This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the Parts List is a
> Chrysler part number ? excellent.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
> *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap 1224818 and a 13lb
> chrome Motorcraft cap.  The 9lb cap measures 1" from inside base to tip of
> plunger while both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>
> Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger Parts List
> Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm guessing this only covers the
> Tigers up to  B382001521 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and
> Ron has  Parts List 6601334 which show two more tanks.    Parts List
> 6601131  says the 9 lb. cap is for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for
> "earlier" cars.  This seems to contradict what is in TBON.  Is it possible
> that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb. caps and then they went to 9 lb.
> caps until they changes the header tanks?
>
>
>
> The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487 and when I Google that
> number I can see that is also a Mopar part number from back in the day.
> All of the usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.  I did
> find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't find what the stem length is.
> I guess I will have to go down to the different part stores and look at
> what they have.
>
>
>
> Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale but they are for
> Alpines, not Tigers.  I asked Rick if any of them would work for the Tiger
> and he said the pressure rating was too low.
>
>
>
> Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older Land Rovers but I'm
> only finding used ones.
>
>
>
> If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is working fine please
> let me know what you got.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a 9 lb. cap up to
> B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>
>
> I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part number RC5 is the cap you
> described. It doesn't say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the
> series V.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
> 1224725                Header Tank       up to B382001521
>
> 5221224                Header Tank       from B382001522 to B382001894
>
> 1236126                Header Tank       from B382001895
>
>
>
> Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header Tank 1224725 and it indicates
> Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>
>
> I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2 header tanks are available to
> see which Filler Cap they indicate.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like what I need.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
>                 I believe I bought my radiator cap from Sunbeam
> Specialties.
>
> Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
> Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
>
> I installed a catch bottle for the header tank overflow.   Catches any
> overflow which gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
>
>
>
> The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
>
>
>
> Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates B382001521 as last unit with
> early header tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1st Tiger with updated
> header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>
>
> Well, no really good help there.
>
>
>
> I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13 lbs. for later cars is correct
>
>
>
> Ron  Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me what radiator cap I should be
> using.  I've tried a cap that was listed as being for a Tiger on Autozone's
> website but I think the pressure spring part under the cap is too short.  I
> almost immediately start getting water out of the overflow tube as the
> engine warms up.  I measured the depth of the expansion tank opening from
> the top edge to the flange where the spring part of the cap would sit and
> got .777".  I measured the cap from the big rubber seal just under the cap
> to the small rubber seal at the end of the spring and got something like
> .75".  So it looks like I need a cap with a longer spring stem.
>
>
>
> A brand name and part number would be great  And also, what should the
> pressure rating be?  What I have is 13 lbs.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Aug 19 12:19:53 2021
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:19:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] coolant recovery
Message-ID: <002b01d79526$cefb71c0$6cf25540$@bluefrog.com>

I mounted a washer bottle and bracket just in front of the header tank.

 



 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:52 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle at yahoo.com>; Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap

 

For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.  I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger, https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.

 

Have Fun,

Joe Brown

 

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need that kind of information on hand for future reference.

 

I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the system.

Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your priority.

Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while driving or stopping.

 

Ron Fraser

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From harryb at elams.org  Thu Aug 19 13:18:26 2021
From: harryb at elams.org (H B Elam)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:18:26 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Coolant recovery system
Message-ID: <173EC38E-F75E-4FB5-8848-FB1CDA29AB71@elams.org>

In 1990 I towed a small trailer from Newport RI to San Diego CA in August. Since it was a permanent change of station I had the hardtop on. While it never boiled over the temp gage lived over 210 degrees. While in Long Beach I took the coolant overflow/recovery tank from my 1977 Ford LTD wagon and mounted It under the the left front fender behaving the headlight using plumbers mounting straps. It is still there today and working. I judge ?working? by comparing the hot running tank level to the cooled off level. No originality or tech inspector has ever mentioned it. Adding water to the tank is difficult since access to the original cap was OBE. Since then I have, first had an original radiator recored with core packs from fork trucks. That worked but still needed help. Then currently I have a Griffin aluminum radiator. Problem solved. 90 mph on a 90 degree F day no problem. Stop and go idling in at 2 hour parade still good.
Harry Elam
B382000471
TAC insp #37

From sjhcobra1 at cs.com  Thu Aug 19 13:19:40 2021
From: sjhcobra1 at cs.com (STEPHEN HALBROOK)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:19:40 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] coolant recovery
In-Reply-To: <002b01d79526$cefb71c0$6cf25540$@bluefrog.com>
References: <002b01d79526$cefb71c0$6cf25540$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <8298F017-A2C5-4EBC-B1FA-1456959ED888@cs.com>

Joe:

I have used the MGB metal tank successfully on early Mustangs.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I mounted a washer bottle and bracket just in front of the header tank.
>  
> <image002.png>
>  
> Ron Fraser
>  
> From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:52 AM
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle at yahoo.com>; Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>  
> For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.  I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger, https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.
>  
> Have Fun,
> Joe Brown
>  
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need that kind of information on hand for future reference.
>  
> I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the system.
> Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your priority.
> Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while driving or stopping.
>  
> Ron Fraser
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From ktisdale at ix.netcom.com  Thu Aug 19 15:03:33 2021
From: ktisdale at ix.netcom.com (Ken Tisdale)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:03:33 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
In-Reply-To: <03619EB9-C4AE-41BD-837F-68D6FE718D72@sbcglobal.net>
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Very nice!

Ken

On 8/19/2021 10:00 AM, Donald Antilla via Tigers wrote:
>
> Here is what I did on my Series 200 Griffith.
>
> I wanted to hide the overflow tank, so we (Bob Cuneo) took an old fire 
> extinguisher, cut/sectioned/welded it so it would fit (on the 
> Griffith) close to the tubular frame and not be obvious.
>
> It is difficult to see in the photo labeled ?surge tank installed? how 
> well it hides, but it is really hard to spot. Note: I had the red cap 
> reanodized black to make it less obvious.
>
> Don
>
> For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original 
> washer bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote 
> oil filter.? I would like to come up with a different solution that I 
> can mount to the inner fender in front of the expansion tank.? I'm 
> concerned that the plastic washer bottle in its current location up 
> against the engine might suffer from the heat. Moss Motors has an 
> overflow bottle for a Triumph that wouldn't look out of place in the 
> Tiger, https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1 
> <https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1>. But the bracket is kind of 
> pricey.? I might try to make my own bracket.
>
> Have Fun,
>
> Joe Brown
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     This has been a wonderful discussion.?? Please include any
>     manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for
>     any area on the Tiger.?? We also need to know possible bad part
>     numbers too.?? We all need that kind of information on hand for
>     future reference.
>
>     I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you
>     know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth
>     through the system.
>
>     Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is
>     your priority.
>
>     Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any
>     kind and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my
>     tire while driving or stopping.
>
>     Ron Fraser
>
>     *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>> *On Behalf Of *Gary
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:26 AM
>     *To:* michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com
>     <mailto:michael.s.king at gmail.com>>; Douglas Lyle
>     <douglasalyle at yahoo.com <mailto:douglasalyle at yahoo.com>>
>     *Cc:* Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>     Or you were just over filling it.
>     It is normal for the Tiger to blow out the little hose until it
>     gets down to where it needs to be.
>     Gary
>
>     On 8/18/2021 11:38 PM, michael king via Tigers wrote:
>
>         doug sounds like the spring wasnt strong enough or that
>         perhaps very slightly to shallow?
>
>         On Thursday, 19 August 2021, Douglas Lyle via Tigers
>         <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>             Joe, I've had two failures with those Scott Drake caps.
>             They were about 10 years apart.??? Both failed soon after
>             installation.??? The 10 year gap was because I had
>             forgotten that the first one failed and then 10 years
>             later I bought another and it also failed.??? Ended up
>             finding an NOS cap and that solved the problem.
>
>             Both Scott Drake caps were allowing coolant to puke out
>             after short drives.?? Dimensions looked identical.?? Your
>             results may vary.? Just keep an eye on it.
>
>             Doug
>
>             On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:21:47 AM PDT, Joe Brown
>             <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I have an update on my quest to find a radiator cap.? I
>             wound up ordering a Scott Drake Mustang cap from CJ Pony
>             Parts and it fits really well.? And since my temp gauge
>             was always pegged out really high I installed a mechanical
>             temp gauge from Summit on my Edelbrock intake.? After
>             idling for about 20 minutes the temp never got over 190.?
>             Now I need to take it out for a long drive and see how it
>             does.
>
>             Thanks for all of MKdoug soijds info from everybody.
>
>             Thanks,
>
>             Joe Brown
>
>             On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:35 AM Ron Fraser
>             <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Jim
>
>                 Thank you for the pictures.
>
>                 It appears I have the MOPAR 5220487 Filler cap ? good
>                 to know.
>
>                 This also indicates that any 522xxxx number in the
>                 Parts List is a Chrysler part number ? excellent.
>
>                 Ron Fraser
>
>                 *From:*jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net
>                 <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net>>
>                 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:11 PM
>                 *To:* Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>>; Ron Fraser
>                 <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>                 *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>                 <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>                 *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>                 Attached are pictures of the 9lb cap 5220487, 13lb cap
>                 1224818 and a 13lb chrome Motorcraft cap. The 9lb cap
>                 measures 1" from inside base to tip of plunger while
>                 both 13lb caps measure 1-1/8".
>
>                 Jim D
>
>                 Sent from my Galaxy
>
>                 -------- Original message --------
>
>                 From: Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net
>                 <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
>
>                 Date: 7/28/21 6:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
>                 To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>                 <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>
>                 Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>                 <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>
>                 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>                 Just to add to my confusion I took a look at the Tiger
>                 Parts List Supplement (pub number 6601131) and I'm
>                 guessing this only covers the Tigers up to B382001521
>                 because it only shows the 1224725 header tank and Ron
>                 has Parts List 6601334 which show two more
>                 tanks.????Parts List 6601131? says the 9 lb. cap is
>                 for "later" cars and the 13 lb. cap is for "earlier"
>                 cars. This seems to contradict what is in TBON.? Is it
>                 possible that some of the earliest cars had 13 lb.
>                 caps and then they went to 9 lb. caps until they
>                 changes the header tanks?
>
>                 The Rootes part number for the 9 lb. cap is 5220487
>                 and when I Google that number I can see that is also a
>                 Mopar part number from back in the day.? All of the
>                 usual sources want to cross this over to a 13 lb. cap.
>                 I did find a 9 lb. cap made by Motorad but I can't
>                 find what the stem length is.? I guess I will have to
>                 go down to the different part stores and look at what
>                 they have.
>
>                 Sunbeam Specialties has three different caps for sale
>                 but they are for Alpines, not Tigers. I asked Rick if
>                 any of them would work for the Tiger and he said the
>                 pressure rating was too low.
>
>                 Ron, the G630 cap pulls up as a match for some older
>                 Land Rovers but I'm only finding used ones.
>
>                 If anybody has recently purchased a new cap that is
>                 working fine please let me know what you got.
>
>                 Thanks,
>
>                 Joe Brown
>
>                 On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:40 PM Joe Brown
>                 <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                     I pulled out my copy of TBON and he also listed a
>                     9 lb. cap up to B382001521 and 13 lb. after that
>
>                     I sent an email to Rick at SS to see if his part
>                     number RC5 is the cap you described. It doesn't
>                     say it's for the Tiger, it just says it's for the
>                     series V.
>
>                     On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:27 PM Ron Fraser
>                     <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>                     <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Parts List 6601334 lists 3 header tanks.
>
>                         1224725 Header Tank?????? up to B382001521
>
>                         5221224 Header Tank from B382001522 to B382001894
>
>                         1236126 Header Tank ????? from B382001895
>
>                         Graham Vickery sent me a drawing for Header
>                         Tank 1224725 and it indicates Filler Cap 9 lbs.
>
>                         I don?t know if the drawings for the other 2
>                         header tanks are available to see which Filler
>                         Cap they indicate.
>
>                         Ron Fraser
>
>                         *From:*Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com
>                         <mailto:jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>>
>                         *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:49 PM
>                         *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>                         <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>>
>                         *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>                         <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>                         *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>                         Thanks Ron, the .805" dimension sounds like
>                         what I need.
>
>                         On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:37 PM Ron Fraser
>                         <rfraser at bluefrog.com
>                         <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com>> wrote:
>
>                             Joe
>
>                             I believe I bought my radiator cap from
>                             Sunbeam Specialties.
>
>                             Cap indicates 9 lbs. and G630.
>
>                             Rubber seal to rubber seal is .805?.
>
>                             I installed a catch bottle for the header
>                             tank overflow. Catches any overflow which
>                             gets sucked back in when the engine cools.
>
>                             The Parts lists indicates 9 lbs. later
>                             cars and 13 lbs. early cars.
>
>                             Tiger, An Exceptional Motorcar indicates
>                             B382001521 as last unit with early header
>                             tank and 9 lb. cap ? B382001522 1^st Tiger
>                             with updated header tank and 13 lb. cap.
>
>                             Well, no really good help there.
>
>                             I?m thinking 9 lbs. for early cars and 13
>                             lbs. for later cars is correct
>
>                             Ron Fraser
>
>                             *From:*Tigers
>                             <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
>                             <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>>
>                             *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
>                             *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:07 PM
>                             *To:* Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net
>                             <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>>
>                             *Subject:* [Tigers] Radiator Cap
>
>                             Hi,
>
>                             I'm hoping one of you guys can tell me
>                             what radiator cap I should be using.? I've
>                             tried a cap that was listed as being for a
>                             Tiger on Autozone's website but I think
>                             the pressure spring part under the cap is
>                             too short. I almost immediately start
>                             getting water out of the overflow tube as
>                             the engine warms up.? I measured the depth
>                             of the expansion tank opening from the top
>                             edge to the flange where the spring part
>                             of the cap would sit and got .777".? I
>                             measured the cap from the big rubber seal
>                             just under the cap to the small rubber
>                             seal at the end of the spring and got
>                             something like .75".? So it looks like I
>                             need a cap with a longer spring stem.
>
>                             A brand name and part number would be
>                             great? And also, what should the pressure
>                             rating be? What I have is 13 lbs.
>
>                             Thanks,
>
>                             Joe Brown
>
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>
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From rollright at aol.com  Fri Aug 20 08:46:42 2021
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:46:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] parts question
References: <1703462501.339621.1629470802965.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1703462501.339621.1629470802965@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

?In a Service parts book for:? 'Rootes-1966 book number CCE901/66'. which covers 'Lucas, CAV, Girling ' for Hillman, Humber, Singer, Sunbeam, Commer & Carrier:?The Brake Master for the Alpine and Tiger are different:Alpine (V)? is? ? ?64067775Tiger? ? ? ? ? is ? ?64067940?Anybody know what's up here?? My car was built in mid-1966?Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Fri Aug 20 09:03:45 2021
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 11:03:45 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] parts question
In-Reply-To: <1703462501.339621.1629470802965@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1629471834.5552.tigers@autox.team.net>

I believe it's because the one for the Tiger and Alpine III-IV came with the reservoir while the Series V did not.?Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 8/20/21  10:47 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] parts question 

Hello,
?
In a Service parts book for:? 'Rootes-1966 book number CCE901/66'. which covers 'Lucas, CAV, Girling ' 
for Hillman, Humber, Singer, Sunbeam, Commer & Carrier:
?
The Brake Master for the Alpine and Tiger are different:
Alpine (V)? is? ? ?64067775
Tiger? ? ? ? ? is ? ?64067940
?
Anybody know what's up here?? My car was built in mid-1966
?


Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
TAC # 0763

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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 09:54:08 2021
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 23:54:08 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] parts question
In-Reply-To: <20210820150443.8DBBCA0B35@autox.team.net>
References: <1703462501.339621.1629470802965@mail.yahoo.com>
 <20210820150443.8DBBCA0B35@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CAET8snXt2PNgF+ykPb0xObdWveDq5OenM2Tk0RuS8c8xc2XK8w@mail.gmail.com>

The SV LHD cars had a remote plastic resevoir where the River while plastic
was mounted to the top of the MC ... So maybe just the fitting and the
metal hose for the remote setup is different?

On Fri., 20 Aug. 2021, 23:04 jimdamelio via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I believe it's because the one for the Tiger and Alpine III-IV came with
> the reservoir while the Series V did not.
>
> Jim D
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> Sent from my Galaxy
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> -------- Original message --------
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> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] parts question
>
> Hello,
>
>
> In a Service parts book for:  'Rootes-1966 book number CCE901/66'. which
> covers 'Lucas, CAV, Girling '
> for Hillman, Humber, Singer, Sunbeam, Commer & Carrier:
>
> The Brake Master for the Alpine and Tiger are different:
> Alpine (V)  is     64067775
> Tiger          is    64067940
>
> Anybody know what's up here?  My car was built in mid-1966
>
> Jim Armstrong
> Mk 1A
> 382002083 LRXFE
> Code 86
> TAC # 0763
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From e.coiner at cox.net  Sat Aug 21 10:10:09 2021
From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner e.coiner)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 12:10:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] coolant recovery
In-Reply-To: <002b01d79526$cefb71c0$6cf25540$@bluefrog.com>
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I mounted an over flow bottle in the same location.

My choice was a rectangular Nalgene bottle.

I drilled 1 hole in each "shoulder" of the bottle. Hose from Sunbeam overflow went to the bottom of bottle. 

Other hose stuck in just an inch or so and went down to the bottom of the car.  Been working great for nigh on 20 years.

> On August 19, 2021 at 2:19 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I mounted a washer bottle and bracket just in front of the header tank.
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
>      
> 
>     From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:52 AM
>     To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>     Cc: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>; michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>; Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle at yahoo.com>; Tigers Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator Cap
> 
>      
> 
>     For a coolant recovery system I'm currently using my old original washer bottle mounted in the bracket that originally held the remote oil filter.  I would like to come up with a different solution that I can mount to the inner fender in front of the expansion tank.  I'm concerned that the plastic washer bottle in its current location up against the engine might suffer from the heat.  Moss Motors has an overflow bottle for a Triumph that wouldn't look out of place in the Tiger, https://mossmotors.com/overflow-bottle-1.  But the bracket is kind of pricey.  I might try to make my own bracket.
> 
>      
> 
>     Have Fun,
> 
>     Joe Brown
> 
>      
> 
>     On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         This has been a wonderful discussion.   Please include any manufacturer and part number when you find good workable parts for any area on the Tiger.   We also need to know possible bad part numbers too.   We all need that kind of information on hand for future reference.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         I still recommend a coolant recovery system to everyone then you know exactly when and how much coolant is moving back and forth through the system.
> > 
> >         Make it a simple setup that can easily be removed if judging is your priority.
> > 
> >         Personally, I prefer not to pollute the ground with coolant of any kind and I really don?t want coolant possibly spraying onto my tire while driving or stopping.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Ron Fraser
> > 
> >     > 




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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 08:03:54 2021
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:03:54 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Joe Montecalve
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z5FHCru8WnO2YG+q9xE31E7-XYhfM_1m4mkNgFBnZ807Q@mail.gmail.com>

Looking for Joe.  Is he here?  Anyone have contact info?

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From sunbeams at sc.rr.com  Tue Aug 24 12:15:54 2021
From: sunbeams at sc.rr.com (Eric Gibeaut)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 14:15:54 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 159
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Email sent to Jay with contact info.

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Looking for Joe.  Is he here?  Anyone have contact info?

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Wed Aug 25 10:22:41 2021
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:22:41 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Plug Wires
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hbs-mWKb74LLU6O8hBZhDUZdzcWTBm3H8eCQu8OqHhobw@mail.gmail.com>

I recently decided to replace my plug wires with a new set that has the
correct OEM markings.  As simple as this process sounds, it turned into a
great adventure for me.  I won't relate all the details of the adventure
but there was a question that arose that I hope someone can answer for me.
The shop manual contains a drawing that shows the correct routing for the
plug wires.  On each side of the engine the wires go through a couple of
wire guides that provide the correct spacing and routing for the wires.  On
the right side the wires are routed in the order 1-2-3-4.  On the left side
the order is 7-5-6-8.  The text in the manual explains that the reason for
this order is to provide separation between the number 7 and 8 wires.
Seven and 8 are adjacent in the firing order and routing their wires in
close parallel as they would be if the routing order were the expected
5-6-7-8, might lead to induced current between 7 and 8 resulting in
misfire.  I routed my wires according to the advice of the shop manual.  My
question is, was the original (factory) order 7-5-6-8 or was it 5-6-7-8?


Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 25 10:49:43 2021
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:49:43 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Plug Wires
In-Reply-To: <CAMRx0hbs-mWKb74LLU6O8hBZhDUZdzcWTBm3H8eCQu8OqHhobw@mail.gmail.com>
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Cylinder 5 is at the front and 8 back toward the firewall. 
Please remember- if you updated your camshaft to the modern era firing order this results in a different firing sequence. It also results in the original plug wire lengths to the distributor cap different and the lengths will not be optimum. 
When I restored my Griffith with the 347 striker, I went to Taylor Vertex and bought a set of high temp wires and specified 12 extra inches on all whites. I had them install the spark plug bolts and I custom fit the other end while making sure the wires were optimally routed. Then I terminated the wires myself at the distributor cap. 

From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I recently decided to replace my plug wires with a new set that has the correct OEM markings.  As simple as this process sounds, it turned into a great adventure for me.  I won't relate all the details of the adventure but there was a question that arose that I hope someone can answer for me.  The shop manual contains a drawing that shows the correct routing for the plug wires.  On each side of the engine the wires go through a couple of wire guides that provide the correct spacing and routing for the wires.  On the right side the wires are routed in the order 1-2-3-4.  On the left side the order is 7-5-6-8.  The text in the manual explains that the reason for this order is to provide separation between the number 7 and 8 wires.  Seven and 8 are adjacent in the firing order and routing their wires in close parallel as they would be if the routing order were the expected 5-6-7-8, might lead to induced current between 7 and 8 resulting in misfire.  I routed my wires according to the advice of the shop manual.  My question is, was the original (factory) order 7-5-6-8 or was it 5-6-7-8?
> 
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Aug 25 11:57:01 2021
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:57:01 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Plug Wires
In-Reply-To: <CAMRx0hbs-mWKb74LLU6O8hBZhDUZdzcWTBm3H8eCQu8OqHhobw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMRx0hbs-mWKb74LLU6O8hBZhDUZdzcWTBm3H8eCQu8OqHhobw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01d799da$9bed9d40$d3c8d7c0$@bluefrog.com>

Will

                The original stock firing order is 1,5,4,2,6,3,7,8.

The original stock ignition wire order is as shown in the Shop Manual, Section B, pg. 71 ? 7-5-6-8 for the left side.

 

In general the majority of engine related pictures, diagrams and wording in the Sunbeam Shop Manuals are directly from Ford Shop Manuals.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Will Seay
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:23 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Plug Wires

 

I recently decided to replace my plug wires with a new set that has the correct OEM markings.  As simple as this process sounds, it turned into a great adventure for me.  I won't relate all the details of the adventure but there was a question that arose that I hope someone can answer for me.  The shop manual contains a drawing that shows the correct routing for the plug wires.  On each side of the engine the wires go through a couple of wire guides that provide the correct spacing and routing for the wires.  On the right side the wires are routed in the order 1-2-3-4.  On the left side the order is 7-5-6-8.  The text in the manual explains that the reason for this order is to provide separation between the number 7 and 8 wires.  Seven and 8 are adjacent in the firing order and routing their wires in close parallel as they would be if the routing order were the expected 5-6-7-8, might lead to induced current between 7 and 8 resulting in misfire.  I routed my wires according to the advice of the shop manual.  My question is, was the original (factory) order 7-5-6-8 or was it 5-6-7-8?







Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Aug 25 12:16:03 2021
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:16:03 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Car Transport....
Message-ID: <002a01d799dd$456aac80$d0400580$@mayfco.com>

I have been meaning to ask about transporting a  car from one coast to the
other. I though I had saved the  correspondence that had come cross the
Tiger list before, but, nope.  

 

So, what has been the groups experiences with shipping a car across the US?
What are your actual experiences with shippers? If I shipped one, I would
want it to be enclosed similar to what car show cars travel in.  And a
reliable as a piece of basalt rock.  Cost is of course important as well.
Do they charge by weight and distance?  Never ever had this done before.  

 

SO, if any of you have recently shipped you fav car anywhere in an enclosed
conveyance:

what was the company, what is the URL for that company, 

what was your experience in pickup and delivery , 

did they perform well, 

were you satisfied,

if damaged along the way was remuneration satisfactory,

how much cost was involved for the  car weight and distance moved,

 

 

In other words was it a good deal? A great deal,  or a turkey and never to
be attempted again, lol. 

 

Most of the times in the past I have moved my car myself either flat towing
or trailering or on the mover's truck for the household goods. This is
something new to me.

 

Any help out there for me with info? 

 

Mayf

TWFS

Pahrump, NV

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From ironbeast at comcast.net  Wed Aug 25 12:59:54 2021
From: ironbeast at comcast.net (Iron beast)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:59:54 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Car Transport....
In-Reply-To: <002a01d799dd$456aac80$d0400580$@mayfco.com>
References: <002a01d799dd$456aac80$d0400580$@mayfco.com>
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Hi mayf
I?ve used intercity (https://intercitylines.com/)    on a move from Kansas to Pennsylvania.  They were professional, offered a short lead time, and their equipment was top notch and enclosed. 

They will give you a pretty quick quote if you contact them. It Also is  cheaper if the car is in drivable condition. 

Just used them once , but was a favorable experience so usual disclaimers apply!

Regards
P

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have been meaning to ask about transporting a  car from one coast to the other. I though I had saved the  correspondence that had come cross the Tiger list before, but, nope?  
>  
> So, what has been the groups experiences with shipping a car across the US?  What are your actual experiences with shippers? If I shipped one, I would want it to be enclosed similar to what car show cars travel in.  And a reliable as a piece of basalt rock.  Cost is of course important as well.  Do they charge by weight and distance?  Never ever had this done before.  
>  
> SO, if any of you have recently shipped you fav car anywhere in an enclosed conveyance:
> what was the company, what is the URL for that company,
> what was your experience in pickup and delivery ,
> did they perform well,
> were you satisfied,
> if damaged along the way was remuneration satisfactory,
> how much cost was involved for the  car weight and distance moved,
>  
>  
> In other words was it a good deal? A great deal,  or a turkey and never to be attempted again, lol.
>  
> Most of the times in the past I have moved my car myself either flat towing or trailering or on the mover?s truck for the household goods. This is something new to me.
>  
> Any help out there for me with info?
>  
> Mayf
> TWFS
> Pahrump, NV
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Aug 25 16:10:24 2021
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 15:10:24 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Car Transport....
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Ok, that is 2 for intercitylines. 

 

Thankee very kindly all ya?ll..

 

mayf

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Iron beast
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:00 PM
Cc: Tiger Autox <TIGERS at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Car Transport....

 

Hi mayf

I?ve used intercity (https://intercitylines.com/)    on a move from Kansas to Pennsylvania.  They were professional, offered a short lead time, and their equipment was top notch and enclosed. 

 

They will give you a pretty quick quote if you contact them. It Also is  cheaper if the car is in drivable condition. 

 

Just used them once , but was a favorable experience so usual disclaimers apply!

 

Regards

P

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 25, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

I have been meaning to ask about transporting a  car from one coast to the other. I though I had saved the  correspondence that had come cross the Tiger list before, but, nope?  

 

So, what has been the groups experiences with shipping a car across the US?  What are your actual experiences with shippers? If I shipped one, I would want it to be enclosed similar to what car show cars travel in.  And a reliable as a piece of basalt rock.  Cost is of course important as well.  Do they charge by weight and distance?  Never ever had this done before.  

 

SO, if any of you have recently shipped you fav car anywhere in an enclosed conveyance:

what was the company, what is the URL for that company, 

what was your experience in pickup and delivery , 

did they perform well, 

were you satisfied,

if damaged along the way was remuneration satisfactory,

how much cost was involved for the  car weight and distance moved,

 

 

In other words was it a good deal? A great deal,  or a turkey and never to be attempted again, lol. 

 

Most of the times in the past I have moved my car myself either flat towing or trailering or on the mover?s truck for the household goods. This is something new to me.

 

Any help out there for me with info? 

 

Mayf

TWFS

Pahrump, NV

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From dsmtjoy at cox.net  Wed Aug 25 17:09:50 2021
From: dsmtjoy at cox.net (Darrell Mountjoy)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:09:50 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 161
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I vote for Intercity.  An OCD friend has used them for decades with stellar
reviews.



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From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
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I have been meaning to ask about transporting a  car from one coast to the
other. I though I had saved the  correspondence that had come cross the
Tiger list before, but, nope.  

 

So, what has been the groups experiences with shipping a car across the US?
What are your actual experiences with shippers? If I shipped one, I would
want it to be enclosed similar to what car show cars travel in.  And a
reliable as a piece of basalt rock.  Cost is of course important as well.
Do they charge by weight and distance?  Never ever had this done before.  

 

SO, if any of you have recently shipped you fav car anywhere in an enclosed
conveyance:

what was the company, what is the URL for that company, 

what was your experience in pickup and delivery , 

did they perform well, 

were you satisfied,

if damaged along the way was remuneration satisfactory,

how much cost was involved for the  car weight and distance moved,

 

 

In other words was it a good deal? A great deal,  or a turkey and never to
be attempted again, lol. 

 

Most of the times in the past I have moved my car myself either flat towing
or trailering or on the mover's truck for the household goods. This is
something new to me.

 

Any help out there for me with info? 

 

Mayf

TWFS

Pahrump, NV

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:59:54 -0400
From: Iron beast <ironbeast at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Car Transport....
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Hi mayf
I?ve used intercity (https://intercitylines.com/)    on a move from Kansas
to Pennsylvania.  They were professional, offered a short lead time, and
their equipment was top notch and enclosed. 

They will give you a pretty quick quote if you contact them. It Also is
cheaper if the car is in drivable condition. 

Just used them once , but was a favorable experience so usual disclaimers
apply!

Regards
P

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers
<tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have been meaning to ask about transporting a  car from one coast to the
other. I though I had saved the  correspondence that had come cross the
Tiger list before, but, nope?  
>  
> So, what has been the groups experiences with shipping a car across the
US?  What are your actual experiences with shippers? If I shipped one, I
would want it to be enclosed similar to what car show cars travel in.  And a
reliable as a piece of basalt rock.  Cost is of course important as well.
Do they charge by weight and distance?  Never ever had this done before.  
>  
> SO, if any of you have recently shipped you fav car anywhere in an
enclosed conveyance:
> what was the company, what is the URL for that company, what was your 
> experience in pickup and delivery , did they perform well, were you 
> satisfied, if damaged along the way was remuneration satisfactory, how 
> much cost was involved for the  car weight and distance moved,
>  
>  
> In other words was it a good deal? A great deal,  or a turkey and never to
be attempted again, lol.
>  
> Most of the times in the past I have moved my car myself either flat
towing or trailering or on the mover?s truck for the household goods. This
is something new to me.
>  
> Any help out there for me with info?
>  
> Mayf
> TWFS
> Pahrump, NV
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From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: "'Iron beast'" <ironbeast at comcast.net>
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Ok, that is 2 for intercitylines. 

 

Thankee very kindly all ya?ll..

 

mayf

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Iron beast
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:00 PM
Cc: Tiger Autox <TIGERS at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Car Transport....

 

Hi mayf

I?ve used intercity (https://intercitylines.com/)    on a move from Kansas
to Pennsylvania.  They were professional, offered a short lead time, and
their equipment was top notch and enclosed. 

 

They will give you a pretty quick quote if you contact them. It Also is
cheaper if the car is in drivable condition. 

 

Just used them once , but was a favorable experience so usual disclaimers
apply!

 

Regards

P

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 25, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers
<tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

I have been meaning to ask about transporting a  car from one coast to the
other. I though I had saved the  correspondence that had come cross the
Tiger list before, but, nope?  

 

So, what has been the groups experiences with shipping a car across the US?
What are your actual experiences with shippers? If I shipped one, I would
want it to be enclosed similar to what car show cars travel in.  And a
reliable as a piece of basalt rock.  Cost is of course important as well.
Do they charge by weight and distance?  Never ever had this done before.  

 

SO, if any of you have recently shipped you fav car anywhere in an enclosed
conveyance:

what was the company, what is the URL for that company, 

what was your experience in pickup and delivery , 

did they perform well, 

were you satisfied,

if damaged along the way was remuneration satisfactory,

how much cost was involved for the  car weight and distance moved,

 

 

In other words was it a good deal? A great deal,  or a turkey and never to
be attempted again, lol. 

 

Most of the times in the past I have moved my car myself either flat towing
or trailering or on the mover?s truck for the household goods. This is
something new to me.

 

Any help out there for me with info? 

 

Mayf

TWFS

Pahrump, NV

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From blance598 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 06:39:36 2021
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 08:39:36 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
Message-ID: <CACQC2nVROQqSDV_xnwr4-6aj=xhyHsdrx9=Dk-2sP_Btxcj36w@mail.gmail.com>

My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a complete
repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
cars color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
coat clear coat.
I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.
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From aballard at ix.netcom.com  Mon Aug 30 07:46:55 2021
From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 09:46:55 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
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I put base coat/clear coat on my Tiger a decade ago.

It has held up well out in the weather in cross country and local driving and if curious it can be seen at the upcoming SUNI meeting in Independence, Mo.

However I?ve come to feel it?s shinier than my preference for a stock, ?factory look.?

So ... just sayin that single stage paint is something to consider.

I?ll definitely look into it should the car ever get a respray.

It?s not widely available but it *is* available.

Just my $0.02 worth :)

-Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
Series 1 Alpine (v6)


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> On Aug 30, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a complete repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My cars color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coat clear coat.  
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.  Any ideas are appreciated. Beau 
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> On Aug 30, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a complete repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My cars color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coat clear coat.  
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.  Any ideas are appreciated. Beau 
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Aug 30 08:32:28 2021
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 10:32:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
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Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue ? Ditzler # 12633

 

The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate well into the new paint codes of today.

1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for your car.

If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.

 

Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage or base coat/ clear coat.

Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter?s preference.

 

Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far as I know.  I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell them to me.

You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and cure water base paint.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp via Tigers
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] New paints

 

My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a complete repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My cars color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coat clear coat.  

I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.  Any ideas are appreciated. Beau 

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From gammaman at mokancomm.net  Mon Aug 30 08:53:44 2021
From: gammaman at mokancomm.net (Richard Bruner)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 09:53:44 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
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References: <CACQC2nVROQqSDV_xnwr4-6aj=xhyHsdrx9=Dk-2sP_Btxcj36w@mail.gmail.com>
 <000a01d79dab$dc91cc70$95b56550$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <1ecf4edcba3dfb103acbefedd7718b1c.squirrel@webmail.mokancomm.net>



This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code:
404.1710
ICI: 2983


On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am,
Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue ???
Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is
that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well
into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see
about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your
car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for
#58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive
paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or
base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most
likely be determined by the painter???s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional
Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about
water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to
spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance
Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021
8:40 AM
> To: Tiger Club. Submission
<tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and
good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is
what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is
midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat
clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now,
I'm not to up on the new products.
> Any ideas are appreciated.
Beau
>
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Aug 30 09:04:47 2021
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:04:47 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
In-Reply-To: <1ecf4edcba3dfb103acbefedd7718b1c.squirrel@webmail.mokancomm.net>
References: <CACQC2nVROQqSDV_xnwr4-6aj=xhyHsdrx9=Dk-2sP_Btxcj36w@mail.gmail.com>
 <000a01d79dab$dc91cc70$95b56550$@bluefrog.com>
 <1ecf4edcba3dfb103acbefedd7718b1c.squirrel@webmail.mokancomm.net>
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Richard

                You probably got those numbers from me.

 

The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but most do not.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Richard Bruner <gammaman at mokancomm.net> 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598 at gmail.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

 

This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983


On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue ??? Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter???s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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From mwood24020 at aol.com  Mon Aug 30 09:48:14 2021
From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:48:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
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 <001601d79db0$609c9b40$21d5d1c0$@bluefrog.com>
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Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with two stage, no regrets.Mike


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From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
To: 'Richard Bruner' <gammaman at mokancomm.net>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598 at gmail.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

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Richard

??????????????? You probably got those numbers from me.

 ?

The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but most do not.

 ?

Ron Fraser

 ?

From: Richard Bruner <gammaman at mokancomm.net> 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598 at gmail.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

 ?

This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983


On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue ??? Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter???s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:04:25 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] New paints
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Mike

                You are correct.  

In my experience with paints, I found single stage to be like painting enamel.

Base coat is like painting lacquer ? color has a flat sheen when painted

Clear coat is like painting enamel ? clear makes the color pop ? clear uses a catalyst so it cures nice and hard  

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:48 AM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com; gammaman at mokancomm.net
Cc: blance598 at gmail.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

 

Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with two stage, no regrets.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
To: 'Richard Bruner' <gammaman at mokancomm.net <mailto:gammaman at mokancomm.net> >
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598 at gmail.com <mailto:blance598 at gmail.com> >; tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

Richard

                You probably got those numbers from me.

 

The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but most do not.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Richard Bruner <gammaman at mokancomm.net <mailto:gammaman at mokancomm.net> > 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598 at gmail.com <mailto:blance598 at gmail.com> >; tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

 

This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983


On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue ??? Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter???s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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