From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Sep  5 08:16:20 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:16:20 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] FYI
Message-ID: <000001d6838f$22dd51a0$6897f4e0$@bluefrog.com>

The Oct issue of Hot rod has an interesting article.

 

New Life for Old Gauges

 

Redline Gauge Works, Santa Clarita, CA - redlinegaugeworks.com

They update Classic gauges with modern digital circuit boards and stepper
motors from Speedhut.

 

Speedhut Inc, Orern UT - speedhut.com

They have their own line of high tech gauges.

 

Ron Fraser

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 08:36:32 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] FYI
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I've done that myself with the Temp gauge and the Tach.? All homebrew 
electronics with GM stepper
motors.
I am working on a clock now with a quartz clock mechanism...
Gary

> Redline Gauge Works, Santa Clarita, CA ? redlinegaugeworks.com
>
> They update Classic gauges with modern digital circuit boards and 
> stepper motors from Speedhut.
>
> Speedhut Inc, Orern UT ? speedhut.com
>
> They have their own line of high tech gauges.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 11:31:58 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:31:58 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Homemade stepper gauges
Message-ID: <4D91BD34-B113-4BC4-9A94-A7F1B1F7A90E@comcast.net>

I built my tach and temp gauges mostly as
an electronic project but I wanted accuracy 
and a scale that could be customized.  The
scale is photoshopped and printed on paper 
with LED backlighting.  Proving anything is
possible if you are a retired engineer with
time to play.  If the photos come through,
the first is inside the tach and the second is
the finished temp gauge.
Gary

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Sep  5 12:05:00 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 14:05:00 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Homemade stepper gauges
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Excellent work Gary

Maybe there are good tips and info on their web sites.
I have not looked and I'm not the electrical guy

Options are what we need.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 1:32 PM
To: Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Homemade stepper gauges

I built my tach and temp gauges mostly as an electronic project but I wanted
accuracy and a scale that could be customized.  The scale is photoshopped
and printed on paper with LED backlighting.  Proving anything is possible if
you are a retired engineer with time to play.  If the photos come through,
the first is inside the tach and the second is the finished temp gauge.
Gary



From jim at island.net  Sat Sep  5 14:53:58 2020
From: jim at island.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 13:53:58 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Homemade stepper gauges
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I have a line of Jaeger gauges that I?ve been selling for a few years...they include both early and late style ?non stock? voltmeters and water/fuel gauges that are built to original spec so they are as accurate as original.  I also have stepper motor driven tachs (8k face) and speedos (electronic input from trans or GPS). 
Jim
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> On Sep 5, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Excellent work Gary
> 
> Maybe there are good tips and info on their web sites.
> I have not looked and I'm not the electrical guy
> 
> Options are what we need.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] Homemade stepper gauges
> 
> I built my tach and temp gauges mostly as an electronic project but I wanted
> accuracy and a scale that could be customized.  The scale is photoshopped
> and printed on paper with LED backlighting.  Proving anything is possible if
> you are a retired engineer with time to play.  If the photos come through,
> the first is inside the tach and the second is the finished temp gauge.
> Gary
> 
> 
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From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 11 01:38:27 2020
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:38:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Paper Body to Chrome Gaskets
References: <987736364.1004159.1599809907615.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <987736364.1004159.1599809907615@mail.yahoo.com>

All,I'm researching paper body gaskets for a Tiger Tales article and need assistance with photos and documentation.It is my understanding that paper gaskets were used beneath the trunk hinges, door handles and wiper retainer rings.Please send any photos you have and let me know if I'm missing anything.
Thanks All and stay safe.See you at SUNI,B
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
 B382001212LRXFE
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From blance598 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 14:45:32 2020
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:45:32 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
Message-ID: <CACQC2nV0AkW3YnbV8SY3TR6wGMs3NjhDrkwnmm-SQMW_N2mAXg@mail.gmail.com>

Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in
small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would
be nice.
Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top them
off?  Beau
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From coolvt at aol.com  Fri Sep 11 14:57:19 2020
From: coolvt at aol.com (coolvt at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 20:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nV0AkW3YnbV8SY3TR6wGMs3NjhDrkwnmm-SQMW_N2mAXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nV0AkW3YnbV8SY3TR6wGMs3NjhDrkwnmm-SQMW_N2mAXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2136040211.1242841.1599857839773@mail.yahoo.com>

Simple rebuild kit for the master should come with the rubber parts that you need.

?In a message dated 9/11/2020 4:46:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers at autox.team.net writes:?Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would be nice.??Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top them off?? Beau?_______________________________________________

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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 15:14:28 2020
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:14:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nV0AkW3YnbV8SY3TR6wGMs3NjhDrkwnmm-SQMW_N2mAXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nV0AkW3YnbV8SY3TR6wGMs3NjhDrkwnmm-SQMW_N2mAXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+DpG65mQ=FLmknoDFmKNgW0ZB_zSB5kSXQMWPwxgNY74t3Muw@mail.gmail.com>

Red Line has a 75W-90 NS oil I use in my Tiger.  It's supposed to be good
for our old synchros.  Kinda pricey, though...

Stu

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in
> small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would
> be nice.
> Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top
> them off?  Beau
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From kenfirch at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 11 15:26:58 2020
From: kenfirch at yahoo.com (Firch Ken)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 21:26:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
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References: <CACQC2nV0AkW3YnbV8SY3TR6wGMs3NjhDrkwnmm-SQMW_N2mAXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+DpG65mQ=FLmknoDFmKNgW0ZB_zSB5kSXQMWPwxgNY74t3Muw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1481192055.3219688.1599859618573@mail.yahoo.com>

 Used this Brad Penn stuff from Summit in my rack and trans.
Ken
Brad Penn PennGrade Multipurpose Classic GL-4 Gear Oil 77296


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    On Friday, September 11, 2020, 02:19:07 PM PDT, Stu via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Red Line has a 75W-90 NS oil I use in my Tiger.? It's supposed to be good for our old synchros.? Kinda pricey, though...
Stu
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would be nice.??Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top them off?? Beau?_______________________________________________

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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Fri Sep 11 15:58:24 2020
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 206
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Brad Penn is a good oil choice. Craig Conley of Paradise Wheels turned me on to the stuff.? I did take a nice shiny piece of brand new brass and put it in the other stinky brand gear oil that supposed to be not okay for brass and left it in there for over a year, no damage. 
But it's better to be safe than sorry, since it's so much fun working on these cars.
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? 3. Re: Brake master cly gasket (Stu)
? 4. Re: Brake master cly gasket (Firch Ken)


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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:45:32 -0400
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Subject: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
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Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in
small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would
be nice.
Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top them
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 20:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: <coolvt at aol.com>
To: tigers at autox.team.net, tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
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Simple rebuild kit for the master should come with the rubber parts that you need.

?In a message dated 9/11/2020 4:46:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers at autox.team.net writes:?Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would be nice.??Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top them off?? Beau?_______________________________________________

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:14:28 -0400
From: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
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Red Line has a 75W-90 NS oil I use in my Tiger.? It's supposed to be good
for our old synchros.? Kinda pricey, though...

Stu

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in
> small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would
> be nice.
> Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top
> them off?? Beau
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 21:26:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Firch Ken <kenfirch at yahoo.com>
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>, Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake master cly gasket
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 Used this Brad Penn stuff from Summit in my rack and trans.
Ken
Brad Penn PennGrade Multipurpose Classic GL-4 Gear Oil 77296


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? ? On Friday, September 11, 2020, 02:19:07 PM PDT, Stu via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:? 
 
 Red Line has a 75W-90 NS oil I use in my Tiger.? It's supposed to be good for our old synchros.? Kinda pricey, though...
Stu
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Two short years,and the rubber seal inside the cover is breaking apart in small pieces. Any ideas how to just get a new seal? One that's better would be nice.??Oh anyone ever have luck finding GL 4 fluid for tranny and rack to top them off?? Beau?_______________________________________________

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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 09:05:17 2020
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 11:05:17 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch mystery
Message-ID: <CA+DpG6495hTOhORkpns_zsaAe=Ygb_8f-X2j-_mjP+F+A64LyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Perfect timing, of course.  I've driven it every couple weeks all summer,
no problems.  But I was getting it ready to go to a show tomorrow, the
first one of the year.  I pushed it out of the garage, checked all the
fluids, the tire pressures, washed the windshield...

And then I went to start it.  The clutch pedal went straight to the floor,
little resistance.  That's new.   I pumped it a few times and it started to
feel more like normal. No leaks on the ground, no fluid missing when I
rechecked the reservoir.  I have the stock master and slave with silicon
fluid.  I'm thinking its master rebuild time.

 Any other thoughts out there?

So much for mini British car day at Larz Anderson.  No way I'm committing
to a 45 minute drive into Brookline with a questionable clutch.  And
there's no way to turn up a master rebuild kit this afternoon.

Stu
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From coolvt at aol.com  Sat Sep 12 10:19:53 2020
From: coolvt at aol.com (coolvt at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch mystery
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If there's no fluid visibly leaking anywhere, it's probably either the master or the slave. While you have it apart (and if they are both old) you might want to consider rebuilding kits for both.? Mark L

In a message dated 9/12/2020 11:09:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, sabre2tgr at gmail.com writes:?Perfect timing, of course.? I've driven it every couple weeks all summer, no problems.? But I was getting it ready to go to a show tomorrow, the first one of the year.? I pushed?it out of the garage, checked all?the fluids, the tire pressures, washed the windshield...?And then I went to start it.? The clutch pedal went straight to the floor, little resistance.? That's new.? ?I pumped it a few times and it started to feel more like normal. No leaks on the ground, no fluid missing when I rechecked the reservoir.? I have the stock master and slave with silicon fluid.? I'm thinking its master rebuild time.???Any other thoughts out there??So much for mini British car day at Larz Anderson.? No way I'm committing to a 45 minute drive into Brookline with a questionable clutch.? And there's no way to turn up a master rebuild kit this afternoon.?Stu_______________________________________________

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From mark44124 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 11:10:24 2020
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:10:24 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch mystery
In-Reply-To: <CA+DpG6495hTOhORkpns_zsaAe=Ygb_8f-X2j-_mjP+F+A64LyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+DpG6495hTOhORkpns_zsaAe=Ygb_8f-X2j-_mjP+F+A64LyQ@mail.gmail.com>
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When the master leaks, that DOT4 will run down the firewall behind the
carpet and insulation. The paint does not appreciate brake/clutch fluid
much. If the slave leaks it?s dripping on the ground. Been there, got the
tee shirt.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perfect timing, of course.  I've driven it every couple weeks all summer,
> no problems.  But I was getting it ready to go to a show tomorrow, the
> first one of the year.  I pushed it out of the garage, checked all the
> fluids, the tire pressures, washed the windshield...
>
> And then I went to start it.  The clutch pedal went straight to the floor,
> little resistance.  That's new.   I pumped it a few times and it started to
> feel more like normal. No leaks on the ground, no fluid missing when I
> rechecked the reservoir.  I have the stock master and slave with silicon
> fluid.  I'm thinking its master rebuild time.
>
>  Any other thoughts out there?
>
> So much for mini British car day at Larz Anderson.  No way I'm committing
> to a 45 minute drive into Brookline with a questionable clutch.  And
> there's no way to turn up a master rebuild kit this afternoon.
>
> Stu
>
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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 18:28:48 2020
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 20:28:48 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch mystery
In-Reply-To: <203969478.1464720.1599936538216@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CA+DpG6495hTOhORkpns_zsaAe=Ygb_8f-X2j-_mjP+F+A64LyQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+8dKTuaoGd90n3zhSYpP_U13z2vz520XnXFYL6GRaBEOZSn-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <203969478.1464720.1599936538216@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+DpG66A64dwL2DJF_ROfHi96QNni2rU9eFASsgFdoGUBowzJg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, guys.  My suspicions are confirmed.  I sent Rick an order for both
rebuild kits.

Stu

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 2:49 PM <coolvt at aol.com> wrote:

> But both can leak (by pass ) internally and no fluid will show up.  Ask me
> how I know that on the Tiger and on a Ford truck.
>
> In a message dated 9/12/2020 1:11:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> tigers at autox.team.net writes:
>
> When the master leaks, that DOT4 will run down the firewall behind the
> carpet and insulation. The paint does not appreciate brake/clutch fluid
> much. If the slave leaks it?s dripping on the ground. Been there, got the
> tee shirt.
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Perfect timing, of course.  I've driven it every couple weeks all summer,
> no problems.  But I was getting it ready to go to a show tomorrow, the
> first one of the year.  I pushed it out of the garage, checked all the
> fluids, the tire pressures, washed the windshield...
>
> And then I went to start it.  The clutch pedal went straight to the floor,
> little resistance.  That's new.   I pumped it a few times and it started to
> feel more like normal. No leaks on the ground, no fluid missing when I
> rechecked the reservoir.  I have the stock master and slave with silicon
> fluid.  I'm thinking its master rebuild time.
>
>  Any other thoughts out there?
>
> So much for mini British car day at Larz Anderson.  No way I'm committing
> to a 45 minute drive into Brookline with a questionable clutch.  And
> there's no way to turn up a master rebuild kit this afternoon.
>
> Stu
>
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sat Sep 12 11:58:33 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:58:33 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch mystery
In-Reply-To: <CA+8dKTuaoGd90n3zhSYpP_U13z2vz520XnXFYL6GRaBEOZSn-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+8dKTuaoGd90n3zhSYpP_U13z2vz520XnXFYL6GRaBEOZSn-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DBF501C9-D0DD-4944-B607-10225FD392DA@comcast.net>

Yeah except, he is using DOT5, and doesn?t 
have a leak...
There is a spring inside the master that
has worn and snapped on me in the past,
I wonder if that?s the problem?  If so he
probably needs a new master.
Gary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> When the master leaks, that DOT4 will run down the firewall behind the carpet and insulation. The paint does not appreciate brake/clutch fluid much. If the slave leaks it?s dripping on the ground. Been there, got the tee shirt. 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Perfect timing, of course.  I've driven it every couple weeks all summer, no problems.  But I was getting it ready to go to a show tomorrow, the first one of the year.  I pushed it out of the garage, checked all the fluids, the tire pressures, washed the windshield...
>> 
>> And then I went to start it.  The clutch pedal went straight to the floor, little resistance.  That's new.   I pumped it a few times and it started to feel more like normal. No leaks on the ground, no fluid missing when I rechecked the reservoir.  I have the stock master and slave with silicon fluid.  I'm thinking its master rebuild time. 
>> 
>>  Any other thoughts out there?
>> 
>> So much for mini British car day at Larz Anderson.  No way I'm committing to a 45 minute drive into Brookline with a questionable clutch.  And there's no way to turn up a master rebuild kit this afternoon.
>> 
>> Stu
>> 
>> 
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From coolvt at aol.com  Sat Sep 12 12:48:58 2020
From: coolvt at aol.com (coolvt at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 18:48:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch mystery
In-Reply-To: <CA+8dKTuaoGd90n3zhSYpP_U13z2vz520XnXFYL6GRaBEOZSn-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+DpG6495hTOhORkpns_zsaAe=Ygb_8f-X2j-_mjP+F+A64LyQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+8dKTuaoGd90n3zhSYpP_U13z2vz520XnXFYL6GRaBEOZSn-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <203969478.1464720.1599936538216@mail.yahoo.com>

But both can leak (by pass ) internally and no fluid will show up.? Ask me how I know that on the Tiger and on a Ford truck.

In a message dated 9/12/2020 1:11:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers at autox.team.net writes:?When the master leaks, that DOT4 will run down the firewall behind the carpet and insulation. The paint does not appreciate brake/clutch fluid much. If the slave leaks it?s dripping on the ground. Been there, got the tee shirt.?
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> wrote:
Perfect timing, of course.? I've driven it every couple weeks all summer, no problems.? But I was getting it ready to go to a show tomorrow, the first one of the year.? I pushed?it out of the garage, checked all?the fluids, the tire pressures, washed the windshield...?And then I went to start it.? The clutch pedal went straight to the floor, little resistance.? That's new.? ?I pumped it a few times and it started to feel more like normal. No leaks on the ground, no fluid missing when I rechecked the reservoir.? I have the stock master and slave with silicon fluid.? I'm thinking its master rebuild time.???Any other thoughts out there??So much for mini British car day at Larz Anderson.? No way I'm committing to a 45 minute drive into Brookline with a questionable clutch.? And there's no way to turn up a master rebuild kit this afternoon.?Stu

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From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 09:08:53 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:08:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNZ1S9-n3m2zs1uFmMA9N6qJDSEW+Cxhb_667T+ppUwVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL1UyNZ1S9-n3m2zs1uFmMA9N6qJDSEW+Cxhb_667T+ppUwVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL1UyNY4pw1U-id5w+=CYCnXEoW+6di3Aov+R+y52YwZeO-nog@mail.gmail.com>

UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs
to heal ...
- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan
- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan
  (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change
perhaps)
- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new
gasket) installed
- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now,
found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.
  (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient,
nice bit of design)

Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but
certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions

1) Any suggestions as to cause?
- Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner
- Solenoid is less than 2Y old
- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure
began

2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs
headers)?
- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ
- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow
garage space
- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient
route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)
- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil
pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I
really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it
for another day ...)

3) Any recommendations on whether one of those  "mini starters" would be a
good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine
mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?
- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context

Cheers in advance,

Rick

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on
> the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the
> oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.
> - tried jiggling the rotor
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to
> the distributor, though I was doing both
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself
> in different orientations
>
> My next attempts will involve
> - having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to
> inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered
>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
> Rick
>
> --
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
>


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From coolvt at aol.com  Sun Sep 20 09:16:30 2020
From: coolvt at aol.com (coolvt at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 15:16:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNY4pw1U-id5w+=CYCnXEoW+6di3Aov+R+y52YwZeO-nog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL1UyNZ1S9-n3m2zs1uFmMA9N6qJDSEW+Cxhb_667T+ppUwVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAL1UyNY4pw1U-id5w+=CYCnXEoW+6di3Aov+R+y52YwZeO-nog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1927446502.4068041.1600614990890@mail.yahoo.com>

If the starter was working correctly before, I would suggest checking that all of the? grounds are in good, shiny shape.

?In a message dated 9/20/2020 11:09:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers at autox.team.net writes:?UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs to heal ...- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan? (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change perhaps)- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new gasket) installed- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now, found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.? (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient, nice bit of design)?Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions?1) Any suggestions as to cause?- Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner- Solenoid is less than 2Y old- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure began?2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs headers)?- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow garage space- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it for another day ...)?3) Any recommendations on whether one of those? "mini starters" would be a good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context?Cheers in advance,?Rick
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:
In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.- tried jiggling the rotor- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing both- tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations?My next attempts will involve- having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered?Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.?Cheers in advance,?Rick?-- 
rick
B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Sep 21 13:40:57 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 15:40:57 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNY4pw1U-id5w+=CYCnXEoW+6di3Aov+R+y52YwZeO-nog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL1UyNZ1S9-n3m2zs1uFmMA9N6qJDSEW+Cxhb_667T+ppUwVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAL1UyNY4pw1U-id5w+=CYCnXEoW+6di3Aov+R+y52YwZeO-nog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501d6904f$252d7300$6f885900$@bluefrog.com>

Sometimes the starter relay just quits.   I had the starter relay work fine one day then fail the next day ? they can be fickle.

I hope you have had luck solving this problem.

 

Please relay, to all, the Fel Pro part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket; I?m sure others are interested too.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of R Flynn via Tigers
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM
To: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net> <tigers at autox.team.net>
Cc: R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft

 

UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs to heal ...

- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan

- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan

  (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change perhaps)

- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new gasket) installed

- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now, found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.

  (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient, nice bit of design)

 

Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions

 

1) Any suggestions as to cause?

- Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner

- Solenoid is less than 2Y old

- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure began

 

2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs headers)?

- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ

- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow garage space

- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)

- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it for another day ...)

 

3) Any recommendations on whether one of those  "mini starters" would be a good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?

- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context

 

Cheers in advance,

 

Rick

 

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com <mailto:flynnr2 at gmail.com> > wrote:

In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.

- tried jiggling the rotor

- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing both

- tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations

 

My next attempts will involve

- having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet

- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered

 

Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.

 

Cheers in advance,

 

Rick

 

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From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 13:48:36 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 15:48:36 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
In-Reply-To: <001501d6904f$252d7300$6f885900$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CAL1UyNZ1S9-n3m2zs1uFmMA9N6qJDSEW+Cxhb_667T+ppUwVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAL1UyNY4pw1U-id5w+=CYCnXEoW+6di3Aov+R+y52YwZeO-nog@mail.gmail.com>
 <001501d6904f$252d7300$6f885900$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <CAL1UyNZA5qTtX7aDuMHNVukGP6AxQChBt9th2SndRKF+4x51NQ@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, the part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws to aid
installation is described as ?Ford Small-Block V8 289 & 302 (1962 - 1987)
on their website is:

    Fel-Pro ?OS 13260 T

It is available from the usual places and worked a treat (a 1965 289 was
transplanted in to my Tiger MK1 in the distant past by some PO).

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:41 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Sometimes the starter relay just quits.   I had the starter relay work
> fine one day then fail the next day ? they can be fickle.
>
> I hope you have had luck solving this problem.
>
>
>
> Please relay, to all, the Fel Pro part number for the 1 piece oil pan
> gasket; I?m sure others are interested too.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *R Flynn via
> Tigers
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM
> *To:* <tigers at Autox.Team.Net> <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Cc:* R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
>
>
>
> UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs
> to heal ...
>
> - Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan
>
> - No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan
>
>   (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change
> perhaps)
>
> - New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new
> gasket) installed
>
> - Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now,
> found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.
>
>   (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient,
> nice bit of design)
>
>
>
> Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but
> certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions
>
>
>
> 1) Any suggestions as to cause?
>
> - Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner
>
> - Solenoid is less than 2Y old
>
> - The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure
> began
>
>
>
> 2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs
> headers)?
>
> - It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ
>
> - I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow
> garage space
>
> - *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient
> route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)
>
> - Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil
> pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I
> really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it
> for another day ...)
>
>
>
> 3) Any recommendations on whether one of those  "mini starters" would be a
> good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine
> mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?
>
> - DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context
>
>
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on
> the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the
> oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.
>
> - tried jiggling the rotor
>
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to
> the distributor, though I was doing both
>
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself
> in different orientations
>
>
>
> My next attempts will involve
>
> - having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet
>
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to
> inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered
>
>
>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.
>
>
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> --
>
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
>
-- 
rick
B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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From fordlandia at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 15:54:53 2020
From: fordlandia at sbcglobal.net (Bill Waite)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 17:54:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1148.1600717733.3214.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13.1600984504.3211.tigers@autox.team.net>


I bought CAT club repro LAT 73 headers back in the late 80's or early 90's.? I had them JetHot coated and installed them in my Mark II for about 20 years.? I pulled the engine and trans about 5 years ago and replaced the headers with the CAT stainless headers.Because I want to sell them, I need help determining what a reasonable asking price would be.? Attaching a few photos.? Hope they come through.BillSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From fordlandia at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 16:02:24 2020
From: fordlandia at sbcglobal.net (Bill Waite)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 18:02:24 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
In-Reply-To: <202009242155.08OLswsm100989@flph824.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.14.1600984988.3211.tigers@autox.team.net>


Photos attached..Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Waite <fordlandia at sbcglobal.net> Date: 9/24/20  5:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net, fordlandia at sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value? 
I bought CAT club repro LAT 73 headers back in the late 80's or early 90's.? I had them JetHot coated and installed them in my Mark II for about 20 years.? I pulled the engine and trans about 5 years ago and replaced the headers with the CAT stainless headers.Because I want to sell them, I need help determining what a reasonable asking price would be.? Attaching a few photos.? Hope they come through.BillSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone-------- Original message --------From: tigers-request at autox.team.net Date: 9/21/20  3:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 212 Send Tigers mailing list submissions to	tigers at autox.team.netTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit	http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigersor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to	tigers-request at autox.team.netYou can reach the person managing the list at	tigers-owner at autox.team.netWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 02:51:09 2020
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:51:09 +0200
Subject: [Tigers] Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
In-Reply-To: <20200924220412.8B328A0FDB@autox.team.net>
References: <202009242155.08OLswsm100989@flph824.prodigy.net>
 <20200924220412.8B328A0FDB@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CANE47iQEHj8a_k_Ghczsn1MFvXhTUKvAx0aqc7NW+xQ3rjMPNg@mail.gmail.com>

interesting.  i have a pair just like that on my shelf of dyno headers.
they came on my tiger and, like you, i now run the latest CAT headers.
mine, however, do not have that extra take off on the the collector.  what
is that for?  some sort of H pipe?

sorry - no idea on the value.  $100?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:16 AM Bill Waite via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Photos attached..
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bill Waite <fordlandia at sbcglobal.net>
> Date: 9/24/20 5:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at autox.team.net, fordlandia at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: RE: Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
>
>
> I bought CAT club repro LAT 73 headers back in the late 80's or early
> 90's.  I had them JetHot coated and installed them in my Mark II for about
> 20 years.  I pulled the engine and trans about 5 years ago and replaced the
> headers with the CAT stainless headers.
>
> Because I want to sell them, I need help determining what a reasonable
> asking price would be.  Attaching a few photos.  Hope they come through.
>
> Bill
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: tigers-request at autox.team.net
> Date: 9/21/20 3:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 212
>
> Send Tigers mailing list submissions to
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 05:45:53 2020
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:45:53 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iQEHj8a_k_Ghczsn1MFvXhTUKvAx0aqc7NW+xQ3rjMPNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <202009242155.08OLswsm100989@flph824.prodigy.net>
 <20200924220412.8B328A0FDB@autox.team.net>
 <CANE47iQEHj8a_k_Ghczsn1MFvXhTUKvAx0aqc7NW+xQ3rjMPNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snV2-n_Yim2VivjS1S8FwNypVDu56EO0PA8mn+5fX39xJg@mail.gmail.com>

Owain,

the small pipe is standard exhaust.. the large capped pipe is the open
exhaust for at the track.. the "screw my neighbours" mode

On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 18:52, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> interesting.  i have a pair just like that on my shelf of dyno headers.
> they came on my tiger and, like you, i now run the latest CAT headers.
> mine, however, do not have that extra take off on the the collector.  what
> is that for?  some sort of H pipe?
>
> sorry - no idea on the value.  $100?
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:16 AM Bill Waite via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Photos attached..
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Bill Waite <fordlandia at sbcglobal.net>
>> Date: 9/24/20 5:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: tigers at autox.team.net, fordlandia at sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: RE: Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
>>
>>
>> I bought CAT club repro LAT 73 headers back in the late 80's or early
>> 90's.  I had them JetHot coated and installed them in my Mark II for about
>> 20 years.  I pulled the engine and trans about 5 years ago and replaced the
>> headers with the CAT stainless headers.
>>
>> Because I want to sell them, I need help determining what a reasonable
>> asking price would be.  Attaching a few photos.  Hope they come through.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: tigers-request at autox.team.net
>> Date: 9/21/20 3:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 212
>>
>> Send Tigers mailing list submissions to
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 06:48:50 2020
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 14:48:50 +0200
Subject: [Tigers] radiator mounting
Message-ID: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had changed
my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not because i
needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering the rad
up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and stressed out.
the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new rad sprung a
leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel which
is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't really repair it, I
bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on something which
absorbs the flex and vibration.

I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they
will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived
yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.

this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the
mounting tabs.
https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/

cheers.
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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 07:44:51 2020
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:44:51 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] radiator mounting
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGiVA4arJ3Sw_rv6Fp1Ot495bE90fgYpHDOPJmjOvqd9Wxj1ZQ@mail.gmail.com>

I mounted my Griffin rad using sticky backed 1/4 in. Insulation from the
hardware store. Lasted 6 years without a problem.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 8:58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> hi,
>
> what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had
> changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not
> because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering
> the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and
> stressed out.  the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new
> rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the
> front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't
> really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
> something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>
> I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they
> will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived
> yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>
> this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the
> mounting tabs.
>
> https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>
> cheers.
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Fri Sep 25 10:40:13 2020
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:40:13 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] radiator mounting
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hZhHP9OK5VfoFdgo5gahDZ0MjjDtyO9MY9HeNB=9VtTcA@mail.gmail.com>

I hard mounted my Griffin radiator 12 years ago and haven't had any
problems with it.  Now you guys have got me worried.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> hi,
>
> what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had
> changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not
> because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering
> the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and
> stressed out.  the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new
> rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the
> front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't
> really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
> something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>
> I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they
> will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived
> yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>
> this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the
> mounting tabs.
>
> https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>
> cheers.
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Fri Sep 25 11:58:57 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:58:57 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] radiator mounting
In-Reply-To: <CAMRx0hZhHP9OK5VfoFdgo5gahDZ0MjjDtyO9MY9HeNB=9VtTcA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMRx0hZhHP9OK5VfoFdgo5gahDZ0MjjDtyO9MY9HeNB=9VtTcA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <129ef201-a839-0900-d681-4777bf6dd6f0@comcast.net>

Yeah, I have never heard of such a problem either...? but,
Owain really uses his Tiger..? fast race/rallyes...? Tigers are pretty 
flexible.. and even I removed the bottom piece
of the core support (that blocks the radiator) that might have made it 
stronger...? OWAIN, did you do that too?
Gary


On 9/25/2020 9:40 AM, Will Seay wrote:
> I hard mounted my Griffin radiator 12 years ago and haven't had any 
> problems with it.? Now you guys have got me worried.
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     hi,
>
>     what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?? i
>     had changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years
>     back. not because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was
>     tired of soldering the rad up all over the place and thought it
>     must be all flexed and stressed out.? the first time i put any
>     miles on the car recently, the new rad sprung a leak which i
>     assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel which is
>     flexing under torque and cornering.? since i can't really repair
>     it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
>     something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>
>     I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect
>     they will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.?
>     its not arrived yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>
>     this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes
>     in the mounting tabs.
>     https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>
>     cheers.
>     _______________________________________________
>
>     tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
>
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Fri Sep 25 12:15:59 2020
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:15:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Tigers] radiator mounting
In-Reply-To: <129ef201-a839-0900-d681-4777bf6dd6f0@comcast.net>
References: <129ef201-a839-0900-d681-4777bf6dd6f0@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1010318892.402374989.1601057759773.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>

That (large holes with big grommets) is pretty much what I did to mount my aluminum rad. 

Theo

> On Sep 25, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ? Yeah, I have never heard of such a problem either...  but,
> Owain really uses his Tiger..  fast race/rallyes...  Tigers are pretty flexible.. and even I removed the bottom piece
> of the core support (that blocks the radiator) that might have made it stronger...  OWAIN, did you do that too?
> Gary
> 
> 
>> On 9/25/2020 9:40 AM, Will Seay wrote:
>> I hard mounted my Griffin radiator 12 years ago and haven't had any problems with it.  Now you guys have got me worried.
>> 
>> Will - 382001570 
>> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and stressed out.  the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>>> 
>>> I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>>> 
>>> this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the mounting tabs.  
>>> https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>>> 
>>> cheers.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
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From mark44124 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 15:58:44 2020
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 17:58:44 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd:  radiator mounting
In-Reply-To: <CA+8dKTsd75HtbV53tzOik6YEjXofoDJU1cwGeuUomkqaq+O7hQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+8dKTsd75HtbV53tzOik6YEjXofoDJU1cwGeuUomkqaq+O7hQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+8dKTvzAU1=SCzm4xyfFGq1z5T-u2qyUOscHVAq4oTsdoKk-g@mail.gmail.com>

My Griffin has been solidly mounted in my stroker car for over ten years,
never had a problem with it, and the car does flex a bit with all that
horsepower.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> hi,
>
> what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had
> changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not
> because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering
> the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and
> stressed out.  the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new
> rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the
> front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't
> really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
> something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>
> I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they
> will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived
> yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>
> this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the
> mounting tabs.
>
> https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>
> cheers.
>
>
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From srwick at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 26 07:18:08 2020
From: srwick at hotmail.com (steve wick)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:18:08 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Project Tiger
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR14MB31116948BF8642D9C2D2A52696370@BYAPR14MB3111.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR14MB31116948BF8642D9C2D2A52696370@BYAPR14MB3111.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR06MB472601892B91A99355B09FCCD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Saw this one this morning on line.

Steve

https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx
[https://www.gullwingmotor.com/ImagesListing/1208/267484/Full/02020239235344637.jpg]<https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
1965 sunbeam Tiger $22,500 - Gullwing Motor Cars<https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
This 1965 Sunbeam Tiger is an excellent original example for complete restoration. Red with black interior. A great project for $22,500
www.gullwingmotor.com


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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 07:21:57 2020
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:21:57 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Project Tiger
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR06MB472601892B91A99355B09FCCD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR14MB31116948BF8642D9C2D2A52696370@BYAPR14MB3111.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
 <BYAPR06MB472601892B91A99355B09FCCD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAGiVA4ayPhi8hCVygCMhnongjXjgMqwkB9oy=biacV3X9_Xg9w@mail.gmail.com>

He's had that for sale for a couple of years.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:19 AM steve wick via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Saw this one this morning on line.
>
> Steve
>
> https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx
> <https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
> 1965 sunbeam Tiger $22,500 - Gullwing Motor Cars
> <https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
> This 1965 Sunbeam Tiger is an excellent original example for complete
> restoration. Red with black interior. A great project for $22,500
> www.gullwingmotor.com
>
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From srwick at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 26 08:41:15 2020
From: srwick at hotmail.com (steve wick)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:41:15 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Project Tiger
In-Reply-To: <CAGiVA4ayPhi8hCVygCMhnongjXjgMqwkB9oy=biacV3X9_Xg9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BYAPR14MB31116948BF8642D9C2D2A52696370@BYAPR14MB3111.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
 <BYAPR06MB472601892B91A99355B09FCCD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
 <CAGiVA4ayPhi8hCVygCMhnongjXjgMqwkB9oy=biacV3X9_Xg9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR06MB47261E2DC97A5234BDD4A12FD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Not surprised. It looks like a huge project, with all the rust.
________________________________
From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 6:21 AM
To: steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Project Tiger

He's had that for sale for a couple of years.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:19 AM steve wick via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Saw this one this morning on line.

Steve

https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx
[https://www.gullwingmotor.com/ImagesListing/1208/267484/Full/02020239235344637.jpg]<https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
1965 sunbeam Tiger $22,500 - Gullwing Motor Cars<https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
This 1965 Sunbeam Tiger is an excellent original example for complete restoration. Red with black interior. A great project for $22,500
www.gullwingmotor.com<http://www.gullwingmotor.com>


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From ktisdale at ix.netcom.com  Sat Sep 26 08:49:14 2020
From: ktisdale at ix.netcom.com (Ken)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 08:49:14 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Project Tiger
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References: <BYAPR14MB31116948BF8642D9C2D2A52696370@BYAPR14MB3111.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
 <BYAPR06MB472601892B91A99355B09FCCD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAGiVA4ayPhi8hCVygCMhnongjXjgMqwkB9oy=biacV3X9_Xg9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <BYAPR06MB47261E2DC97A5234BDD4A12FD8370@BYAPR06MB4726.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <c2dd8702-b49a-f8a7-4776-1bab8d002c72@ix.netcom.com>

Run away!!

Ken

On 9/26/2020 8:41 AM, steve wick via Tigers wrote:
> Not surprised. It looks like a huge project, with all the rust.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2020 6:21 AM
> *To:* steve wick <srwick at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Project Tiger
> He's had that for sale for a couple of years.
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:19 AM steve wick via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     Saw this one this morning on line.
>
>     Steve
>     https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx
>     <https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
>     <https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
>     	
>     1965 sunbeam Tiger $22,500 - Gullwing Motor Cars
>     <https://www.gullwingmotor.com/Listing/267484/1965-sunbeam-Tiger.aspx>
>     This 1965 Sunbeam Tiger is an excellent original example for
>     complete restoration. Red with black interior. A great project for
>     $22,500
>     www.gullwingmotor.com <http://www.gullwingmotor.com>
>
>
>
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From fordlandia at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 11:57:49 2020
From: fordlandia at sbcglobal.net (Bill Waite)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 17:57:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Can anyone help re. LAT 73 repro's value?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1470.1600984987.3214.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1470.1600984987.3214.tigers@autox.team.net>
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 FYI, I accepted an offer of $425 plus shipping for the headers.? Could be high, could be low... but worked for me!
Bill
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I bought CAT club repro LAT 73 headers back in the late 80's or early 90's.? I had them JetHot coated and installed them in my Mark II for about 20 years.? I pulled the engine and trans about 5 years ago and replaced the headers with the CAT stainless headers.
Because I want to sell them, I need help determining what a reasonable asking price would be.? Attaching a few photos.? Hope they come through.
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I bought CAT club repro LAT 73 headers back in the late 80's or early 90's.? I had them JetHot coated and installed them in my Mark II for about 20 years.? I pulled the engine and trans about 5 years ago and replaced the headers with the CAT stainless headers.
Because I want to sell them, I need help determining what a reasonable asking price would be.? Attaching a few photos.? Hope they come through.
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From macdonald49 at shaw.ca  Sun Sep 27 12:56:57 2020
From: macdonald49 at shaw.ca (Peter and Bonnie MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:56:57 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] LAT 73 Headers
Message-ID: <60C3AB50-C181-4DBC-9141-530775AB731B@shaw.ca>

The originals were made by Bellanger. My first set is hanging on the garage wall, second set is on my Tiger. 

Looks like they are still in business, but seem to be concentrating on the Dodge products at this time.

Peter MacDonald
Coquitlam, BC

From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 05:26:40 2020
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:26:40 +0200
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: radiator mounting
In-Reply-To: <CA+8dKTvzAU1=SCzm4xyfFGq1z5T-u2qyUOscHVAq4oTsdoKk-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANE47iSrfdoxZpSgC-6=TZ4vOxvTRqyYD-3TcgqiEgA-Xb5Rrw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CA+8dKTvzAU1=SCzm4xyfFGq1z5T-u2qyUOscHVAq4oTsdoKk-g@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks everyone for your data points.  Both private and to the list.

I rather like our good doctor from Parump's suggestion that
the mounting points were not perfectly in line and hence the rad was under
stress when tightened down.  I'll check that with the new one in position.
 I'm tempted to give the new one a try using only a thick foam strip all
the way round between the rad and the front panel and just bolt through
that.

I've attached a couple of photos of the location of the leak.  you can't
see it.

What a great group of owners tiger list members are!

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:59 PM Mark Rense via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> My Griffin has been solidly mounted in my stroker car for over ten years,
> never had a problem with it, and the car does flex a bit with all that
> horsepower.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had
>> changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not
>> because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering
>> the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and
>> stressed out.  the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new
>> rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the
>> front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't
>> really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
>> something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>>
>> I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they
>> will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived
>> yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>>
>> this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the
>> mounting tabs.
>>
>> https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>>
>> cheers.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
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