From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 09:05:30 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:05:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the
 engine in the Tiger?
Message-ID: <CAL1UyNa-S4dcRL4w9ruihbqZrcsujyTrtO9PbyW4sz=jswQNbg@mail.gmail.com>

Subject says it all really - will I be able to change the intake manifold
on my 289 with the engine still in the Tiger.

It currently has a 70s fuel crisis era Offenhauser Dual Port 360 which I
want to swap out for a Edelbrock.

Any & all advice welcome - cheers in advance!
-- 
rick
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From shutchin at netjets.com  Thu Jul  2 09:26:07 2020
From: shutchin at netjets.com (Scott Hutchinson)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:26:07 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] [EXTERNAL] Is it possible to change the intake
 manifold with the engine in the Tiger?
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Yes.

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Subject says it all really - will I be able to change the intake manifold on my 289 with the engine still in the Tiger.

It currently has a 70s fuel crisis era Offenhauser Dual Port 360 which I want to swap out for a Edelbrock.

Any & all advice welcome - cheers in advance!
--
rick
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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Thu Jul  2 09:27:35 2020
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the
 engine in the Tiger?
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNa-S4dcRL4w9ruihbqZrcsujyTrtO9PbyW4sz=jswQNbg@mail.gmail.com>
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Don't see why not. The distributor will need to come out for forward 
movement. And depending on the valve cover overhang at least one cover 
(recommend the passenger side because of its more forward placement) 
might have to come off. A few of the rear bolts may be somewhat 
difficult being under the firewall. Apparently that guy at Rootes that 
swung that big ole sledge hammer at the firewall just didn't hit it hard 
enough. :-D (just kidding of course)

On 7/2/2020 8:05 AM, R Flynn wrote:
> Subject says it all really - will I be able to change the intake 
> manifold on my 289 with the engine still in the Tiger.
>
> It currently has a 70s fuel crisis era Offenhauser Dual Port 360 which 
> I want to swap out for a Edelbrock.
>
> Any & all advice welcome - cheers in advance!
> -- 
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Thu Jul  2 09:31:53 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:31:53 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the
 engine in the Tiger?
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNa-S4dcRL4w9ruihbqZrcsujyTrtO9PbyW4sz=jswQNbg@mail.gmail.com>
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I was able to swap out the 2bbl manifold for an Edlebrock 289 Performer.
If your Offenhauser isn't too high in the back it should be possible.
Its pretty easy to take the tranny mount loose and let the tranny down to
the X frame and gain another inch or so..
Gary


On 7/2/2020 8:05 AM, R Flynn wrote:
> Subject says it all really - will I be able to change the intake 
> manifold on my 289 with the engine still in the Tiger.
>
> It currently has a 70s fuel crisis era Offenhauser Dual Port 360 which 
> I want to swap out for a Edelbrock.
>
> Any & all advice welcome - cheers in advance!
> -- 
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
>
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From sunbeams at sc.rr.com  Thu Jul  2 10:17:46 2020
From: sunbeams at sc.rr.com (Eric Gibeaut)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:17:46 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Change the Tiger intake manifold
In-Reply-To: <mailman.408.1593703921.2905.tigers@autox.team.net>
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I just did it last month.
Removed the distributer and removed valve covers for a little more room to
reach rear two manifold bolts.  No issues but a Tiger friend gave me great
advice for the install-get 4 guide bolts with no heads on them.  Thread into
the front two intake bolt holes and put two in the middle of the intake
manifold bolt holes.  This will let you align and place the intake with no
problems or gasket movement.  Also don't use the two thin cork gaskets at
each end-a healthy bead of RTV sealent does the trick!  Have fun.  Eric

   1. Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the engine
      in the Tiger? (R Flynn)
   


From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  2 11:57:19 2020
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] overseas auto transport
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Does anyone have experience and can recommend an overseas auto shipping company??? I've never done this and am thinking of buying a Sunbeam in the Netherlands.?? The car would ship from Rotterdam or Amsterdam to either Oakland or Los Angeles.??? First quote came in at $3,550 and that doesn't include some additional fees once it lands.? 

Thanks, Doug Lyle
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jul  2 13:27:12 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:27:12 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the
 engine in the Tiger?
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNa-S4dcRL4w9ruihbqZrcsujyTrtO9PbyW4sz=jswQNbg@mail.gmail.com>
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Rick

                Yes!

I made a plywood pull handle plate that bolts to the carb location and lifted the intake manifold out.

 

This was the stock 2bbl intake ? I did not remove the distributor or any valve covers.

 

Make some guide pins, as Eric mentioned, so you can easily drop the intake straight down and located then bolt it down.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of R Flynn
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:06 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the engine in the Tiger?

 

Subject says it all really - will I be able to change the intake manifold on my 289 with the engine still in the Tiger.

 

It currently has a 70s fuel crisis era Offenhauser Dual Port 360 which I want to swap out for a Edelbrock.

 

Any & all advice welcome - cheers in advance!

-- 

rick
B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp

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From rollright at aol.com  Thu Jul  2 15:52:37 2020
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 21:52:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] stock  " lifting jacks "
References: <1160785388.386293.1593726757992.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1160785388.386293.1593726757992@mail.yahoo.com>


Hello all.
It appears that there were two lifting jacks that came with Tigers and Alpines; a long one and? one about 1.5 " shorter
I have one of each. I believe the longer one came with my Tiger( 382002083 ) but I bought a second one out of the truck of an Alpine in an Oakland junkyard in 1989 and brought it home to New England.
So, which one is correct for my car please?
Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC #....
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jul  2 17:17:52 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 19:17:52 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] stock  " lifting jacks "
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Jim

                According to TBON ? pg. 154 

The tiger jack is painted black

The Alpine jack is gray

 

What colors are your jacks?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 5:53 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] stock " lifting jacks "

 


Hello all.

 

It appears that there were two lifting jacks that came with Tigers and Alpines; a long one and  one about 1.5 " shorter

 

I have one of each. I believe the longer one came with my Tiger( 382002083 ) but I bought a second one out of the truck of an Alpine in an Oakland junkyard in 1989 and brought it home to New England.

 

So, which one is correct for my car please?

 

Jim Armstrong

Mk 1A

382002083 LRXFE

Code 86

TAC #....

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 17:19:46 2020
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 18:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] stock " lifting jacks "
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References: <1160785388.386293.1593726757992.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <003301d650c7$04c56e50$0e504af0$@bluefrog.com>
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My original jack in my Tiger is grey.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 6:18 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Jim
>
>                 According to TBON ? pg. 154
>
> The tiger jack is painted black
>
> The Alpine jack is gray
>
>
>
> What colors are your jacks?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *James
> Armstrong via Tigers
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2020 5:53 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] stock " lifting jacks "
>
>
>
>
> Hello all.
>
>
>
> It appears that there were two lifting jacks that came with Tigers and
> Alpines; a long one and  one about 1.5 " shorter
>
>
>
> I have one of each. I believe the longer one came with my Tiger( 382002083
> ) but I bought a second one out of the truck of an Alpine in an Oakland
> junkyard in 1989 and brought it home to New England.
>
>
>
> So, which one is correct for my car please?
>
>
>
> Jim Armstrong
>
> Mk 1A
>
> 382002083 LRXFE
>
> Code 86
>
> TAC #....
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Thu Jul  2 17:35:24 2020
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 19:35:24 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] stock  " lifting jacks "
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The attached is from the SAOCA website.? Since you have a late MK1A?your cars should probably have the 19" jack.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 7/2/20  5:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] stock? " lifting jacks " 

Hello all.

It appears that there were two lifting jacks that came with Tigers and Alpines; a long one and? one about 1.5 " shorter

I have one of each. I believe the longer one came with my Tiger( 382002083 ) but I bought a second one out of the truck of an Alpine in an Oakland junkyard in 1989 and brought it home to New England.

So, which one is correct for my car please?



Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
TAC #....

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From rsdslp at juno.com  Thu Jul  2 20:39:10 2020
From: rsdslp at juno.com (rsdslp at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 02:39:10 GMT
Subject: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the
	eng	ine in the Tiger?
Message-ID: <20200702.193910.29524.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

Yes you can R & R the intake manifold with the engine installed.I've done in many times. It will convince you to change out the cast iron manifold for an aluminum manifold if you haven't already.Those cast iron manifolds are heavy.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Is it possible to change the intake manifold with the engine in the Tiger?
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:27:35 -0700


Don't see why not. The distributor will need to come out for forward movement. And depending on the valve cover overhang at least one cover (recommend the passenger side because of its more forward placement) might have to come off. A few of the rear bolts may be somewhat difficult being under the firewall. Apparently that guy at Rootes that swung that big ole sledge hammer at the firewall just didn't hit it hard enough. :-D (just kidding of course)
On 7/2/2020 8:05 AM, R Flynn wrote:Subject says it all really - will I be able to change the intake manifold on my 289 with the engine still in the Tiger. It currently has a 70s fuel crisis era Offenhauser Dual Port 360 which I want to swap out for a Edelbrock. Any & all advice welcome - cheers in advance!-- 
rick
 B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jul  2 20:41:02 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:41:02 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] stock  " lifting jacks "
In-Reply-To: <20200702233546.E9092A28DE@autox.team.net>
References: <1160785388.386293.1593726757992@mail.yahoo.com>
 <20200702233546.E9092A28DE@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <004401d650e3$65dd2b80$31978280$@bluefrog.com>

Tiger Parts List   6601334                section ZVF ? Tools

 

1201342                Lifting Jack          Up to B9473324                 20? painted Black

5220473                Lifting Jack          From B9473325                 19? painted Gray

 

This combines the info on hand but I?m not the expert here.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:35 PM
To: James Armstrong <rollright at aol.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] stock " lifting jacks "

 

The attached is from the SAOCA website.  Since you have a late MK1A your cars should probably have the 19" jack.

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 7/2/20 5:52 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>  

Subject: [Tigers] stock  " lifting jacks " 

 


Hello all.

 

It appears that there were two lifting jacks that came with Tigers and Alpines; a long one and  one about 1.5 " shorter

 

I have one of each. I believe the longer one came with my Tiger( 382002083 ) but I bought a second one out of the truck of an Alpine in an Oakland junkyard in 1989 and brought it home to New England.

 

So, which one is correct for my car please?

 

Jim Armstrong

Mk 1A

382002083 LRXFE

Code 86

TAC #....

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From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  4 09:37:09 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 11:37:09 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] [EXTERNAL] Is it possible to change the intake
 manifold with the engine in the Tiger?
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 <8E3411E5-2D4F-4744-ADFE-FC1C9CEF1CAC@netjets.com>
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Cheers to all for the advice - will let you know how I make out.

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 11:26, Scott Hutchinson <shutchin at netjets.com> wrote:

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From packertl3 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  4 12:12:37 2020
From: packertl3 at yahoo.com (Terry Packer)
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:12:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] stock  " lifting jacks "
In-Reply-To: <20200702233557.2D8FBA29E5@autox.team.net>
References: <1160785388.386293.1593726757992@mail.yahoo.com>
 <20200702233557.2D8FBA29E5@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <541558496.2010165.1593886357084@mail.yahoo.com>

 Apologies if I missed it. How or between which points is a jack's spec length (19" or 20") measured?
ThanksTerry

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    On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 4:36:40 PM PDT, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 The attached is from the SAOCA website.? Since you have a late MK1A?your cars should probably have the 19" jack.


  
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From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net  Mon Jul  6 04:56:22 2020
From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:56:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
References: <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks Clyde
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From W_Pierzga at msn.com  Mon Jul  6 13:15:23 2020
From: W_Pierzga at msn.com (Wayne Pierzga)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 19:15:23 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
In-Reply-To: <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi Clyde

The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]

I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never come across a jack painted gray.

You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity out today  UGH]

All the best,
Wayne

From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint

Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks Clyde
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From wrightsinseabrook at icloud.com  Tue Jul  7 07:29:42 2020
From: wrightsinseabrook at icloud.com (Susan and Larry Wright)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:29:42 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Product idea
Message-ID: <5A0FC83C-CBC9-428F-8ABC-E504731FE38A@icloud.com>

If the local chapter of the Porsche Club of America could do it, wouldn?t a Tiger analogue be even better? Of course, in two years, another Tiger novelty item consigned to a closet shelf (yeah, I recently found my copies of Tiger Press, for instance).

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Tue Jul  7 07:40:19 2020
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:40:19 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB4753C8A203FB3C7A78BF35AF9F690@BL0PR02MB4753.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <BL0PR02MB4753C8A203FB3C7A78BF35AF9F690@BL0PR02MB4753.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
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My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of
telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi Clyde
>
>
>
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack
> handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
>
>
>
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top
> frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never
> come across a jack painted gray.
>
>
>
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or
> opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out
> walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity
> out today  UGH]
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks
> Clyde
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Wed Jul  8 16:19:47 2020
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:19:47 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR02MB47532E7BB0D4BA7A195A8EFB9F660@BL0PR02MB4753.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <BL0PR02MB4753C8A203FB3C7A78BF35AF9F690@BL0PR02MB4753.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAMRx0haofhfyQ8wQf24sSh4hkpEroDAoh9tYFnYVc3oeoaVMag@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMRx0hamFC4uSrN2ZpCWCaR+thJJATnjOAtNfhpVU-fNVsgO2g@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the picture:

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi Will
>
>
>
> Yours must be an import ;-)
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of
> telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Clyde
>
>
>
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack
> handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
>
>
>
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top
> frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never
> come across a jack painted gray.
>
>
>
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or
> opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out
> walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity
> out today  UGH]
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks
> Clyde
>
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From w_pierzga at msn.com  Wed Jul  8 18:58:31 2020
From: w_pierzga at msn.com (Wayne Pierzga)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:58:31 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
In-Reply-To: <CAMRx0hamFC4uSrN2ZpCWCaR+thJJATnjOAtNfhpVU-fNVsgO2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned

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From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint

Here's the picture:

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com<mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:

Hi Will



Yours must be an import ;-)



Wayne



From: Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com<mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>>
Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint



My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.



Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com<mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>





On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:

Hi Clyde



The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]



I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never come across a jack painted gray.



You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity out today  UGH]



All the best,

Wayne



From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net> [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>]
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint



Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks Clyde

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From w_pierzga at msn.com  Wed Jul  8 19:05:24 2020
From: w_pierzga at msn.com (Wayne Pierzga)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 01:05:24 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack is..... your grey jack - unique.

I?ve never encountered a grey jack

I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger.  Yours is unique!

Best wishes

Wayne





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From: Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint

You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned

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From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint

Here's the picture:

Will - 382001570
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:

Hi Will



Yours must be an import ;-)



Wayne



From: Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com<mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>>
Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint



My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.



Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com<mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>





On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:

Hi Clyde



The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]



I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never come across a jack painted gray.



You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity out today  UGH]



All the best,

Wayne



From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net> [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>]
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint



Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks Clyde

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Wed Jul  8 22:22:36 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:22:36 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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Grey jacks definitely exist.? I thought they were from Alpines but 
apparently not only Alpines.
Gary


On 7/8/2020 6:05 PM, Wayne Pierzga via Tigers wrote:
> Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack 
> is..... your grey jack - unique.
>
> I?ve never encountered a grey jack
>
> I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger. ?Yours 
> is unique!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
> *To:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; 
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
> You do realize that black ages to grey... ?Just pulling your leg. All 
> I said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so 
> Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; 
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
> Here's the picture:
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com 
> <mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Will
>
>     Yours must be an import ;-)
>
>     Wayne
>
>     *From:*Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com
>     <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
>     *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com <mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>>
>     *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net
>     <mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
>     My jack is gray.? I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired
>     of telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
>
>     Will - 382001570
>     Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>
>     On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com
>     <mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Clyde
>
>         The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same
>         for the jack handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and
>         the Alpine hand crank]
>
>         I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as
>         the soft-top frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned
>         over the years, I have never come across a jack painted gray.
>
>         You still down south having fun?? All is quiet here. Places
>         are open or opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic
>         too. More folks out walking most evenings when the weather is
>         good. [it is 100F 100% humidity out today UGH]
>
>         All the best,
>
>         Wayne
>
>         *From:*clydemclaughlin at verizon.net
>         <mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>
>         [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net
>         <mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>]
>         *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
>         *To:* tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
>         *Subject:* [Tigers] jack paint
>
>         Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss
>         black? Thanks Clyde
>
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From rollright at aol.com  Thu Jul  9 13:57:15 2020
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:57:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 144
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Thanks for the trunk picture, Will


Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC #....



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From blance598 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 19:15:02 2020
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:15:02 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
Message-ID: <CACQC2nU3CuL0KdXJSgo5SsQghrb-aqNLnVfCu89Q-=6ZcjFEOg@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the
pedal.!
   Beau
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Thu Jul  9 19:30:04 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:30:04 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
like any modern car.  You can plug it into the
harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
Gary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!   
>    Beau 
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 19:32:20 2020
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:32:20 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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Find a good used original... and make sure you dont run silicone fluids

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 11:15, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
> the pedal.!
>    Beau
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-- 
Regards

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From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  9 19:43:25 2020
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 01:43:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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 If you don't want to go to a mechanical switch.....when I went to Dot 5 silicone on my Desoto somebody recommended a switch from a Harley Davidson that was also Dot 5 compatible.? HD has been using the Dot 5 for years (ABS HDs now may use dot 4) and it worked fine on my Desoto.?? I did not have to stomp on the brakes to get it to light up.

The one I had looked like this.?? Do the research on HD brake light switches..I don't have the part number handy of the one I used but I know I just went in to the local Harley dealer to get it.?? Might work for the Sunbeams too.?? 



Doug Lyle


    On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 6:30:29 PM PDT, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
like any modern car.? You can plug it into the
harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
Gary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!? 
>? ? Beau 
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From blance598 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 19:47:13 2020
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:47:13 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd:  Switch
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Gary do you have a specific sw to recommend,  I'd prefer  that to the press
type . I have never understood this big issue between dot3 or 4 and
silicon.  After so many years your system needs to be replaced, period, end
of story. Clutch and brake masters and cylinders.  Beau

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From: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
Date: Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Switch
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
Cc: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>


Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
like any modern car.  You can plug it into the
harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
Gary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
the pedal.!
>    Beau
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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 20:14:24 2020
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:14:24 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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[image: 20170812_121739.jpg]
A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement brake switch
from some old Jeep, and no more problems.

Stu

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
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> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
> the pedal.!
>    Beau
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From rollright at aol.com  Thu Jul  9 20:43:07 2020
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:43:07 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 147
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I was running silicon brake fluid, and I talked to Rick about it. He said he sold a lot of switches to people that ran silicon brake fluid. He recommended using Mai and the problem will go awayI was running silicon brake fluid, and I talked to Rick about it. He said he sold a lot of switches to people that ran silicon brake fluid. He recommended using LMA and the problem will go away. For me, it did. Completely. 

Jim Armstrong

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> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the
> pedal.!
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> From: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
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> Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
> like any modern car.  You can plug it into the
> harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
> Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
> Gary
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>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> ?
>> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!   
>>   Beau 
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> Find a good used original... and make sure you dont run silicone fluids
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>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 11:15, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
>> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
>> the pedal.!
>>   Beau
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> If you don't want to go to a mechanical switch.....when I went to Dot 5 silicone on my Desoto somebody recommended a switch from a Harley Davidson that was also Dot 5 compatible.? HD has been using the Dot 5 for years (ABS HDs now may use dot 4) and it worked fine on my Desoto.?? I did not have to stomp on the brakes to get it to light up.
> 
> The one I had looked like this.?? Do the research on HD brake light switches..I don't have the part number handy of the one I used but I know I just went in to the local Harley dealer to get it.?? Might work for the Sunbeams too.?? 
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> Doug Lyle
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>    On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 6:30:29 PM PDT, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:  
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> Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
> like any modern car.? You can plug it into the
> harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
> Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
> Gary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> ?
>> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!? 
>> ? ? Beau 
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Thu Jul  9 22:36:39 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:36:39 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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References: <CACQC2nU3CuL0KdXJSgo5SsQghrb-aqNLnVfCu89Q-=6ZcjFEOg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+DpG65MA4qT2TKwfXQEPr8LPXfKKduu2W76Kc3U_6HfXUGVxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f9f29075-e5e8-54ea-07c7-b361ab0ecaed@comcast.net>

You are not giving credit to the paper clip!

I used the same Jeep/GM/everything switch.? It was the cheapest I could 
find on ebay.
I made a simple "L" kind of bracket that I screwed up to the panel right 
above.
Gary


On 7/9/2020 7:14 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
> 20170812_121739.jpg
> A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement?brake 
> switch from some old Jeep, and no more problems.
>
> Stu
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
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>     Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out
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>     ? ?Beau
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Thu Jul  9 23:49:36 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:49:36 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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References: <CACQC2nU3CuL0KdXJSgo5SsQghrb-aqNLnVfCu89Q-=6ZcjFEOg@mail.gmail.com>
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Here is the switch I bought in February:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAKE-LIGHT-STOP-LIGHT-STOPLIGHT-SWITCH-FITS-GM-DODGE-FORD-JEEP-SAAB-1953-1999/352862547043?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

$7 shipped to me.
My original stock switch finally gave out after 56 years, not too shabby.
I just left it in place with its wires plugged in, it looks stock and 
doesn't leak.
Gary



On 7/9/2020 9:36 PM, Gary wrote:
> You are not giving credit to the paper clip!
>
> I used the same Jeep/GM/everything switch.? It was the cheapest I 
> could find on ebay.
> I made a simple "L" kind of bracket that I screwed up to the panel 
> right above.
> Gary
>
>
> On 7/9/2020 7:14 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
>> 20170812_121739.jpg
>> A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement?brake 
>> switch from some old Jeep, and no more problems.
>>
>> Stu
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers 
>> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out
>>     standing on the pedal.!
>>     ? ?Beau
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From jliny5 at cox.net  Fri Jul 10 09:28:30 2020
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:28:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd:  Switch
References: <D77943E1-43E4-4BAE-8013-473FDDF29C03@cox.net>
Message-ID: <DBD8E43B-31E7-4768-AE53-6550588A2D7C@cox.net>

Resending the email below to the The List. My first one went to Stu only.

Thanks

Jim

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: James Lindner <jliny5 at cox.net>
> Date: July 10, 2020 at 11:24:23 AM EDT
> To: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re:  [Tigers] Switch
> 
> ?
> Hi All
> 
> I also changed to a mechanical switch a couple years back. Joe Parlanti built a mechanical switch using a micro switch. When the pedal is pressed the contact is broken which switches the lights on. 
> 
> The below link is an article Joe wrote about his switch for the Aug 2018 Rootes Review.
> 
> https://teae.org/index.php?pmpro_getfile=rr/18-aug.pdf
> 
> If still running the stock brake switch definitely go with Castrol LMA.
> 
> All the Best
> 
> Jim Lindner
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Stu via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> <20170812_121739.jpg>
>> 
>> A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement brake switch from some old Jeep, and no more problems.
>> 
>> Stu
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!   
>>>    Beau 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From jliny5 at cox.net  Fri Jul 10 09:54:38 2020
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:54:38 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
In-Reply-To: <DBD8E43B-31E7-4768-AE53-6550588A2D7C@cox.net>
References: <DBD8E43B-31E7-4768-AE53-6550588A2D7C@cox.net>
Message-ID: <C98181D3-D0DB-4E1A-B4C7-B390AE2C287C@cox.net>

I just realized the link I sent out will not work because the TEAE Rootes Review archive is behind the member firewall.

Here is a PDF copy of the article which I obtained from no other than Joe Parlanti, the creator of this switch.

Enjoy.

Jim



Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 10, 2020, at 11:28 AM, James Lindner <jliny5 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Resending the email below to the The List. My first one went to Stu only.
> 
> Thanks
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> Jim
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: James Lindner <jliny5 at cox.net>
>> Date: July 10, 2020 at 11:24:23 AM EDT
>> To: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re:  [Tigers] Switch
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi All
>> 
>> I also changed to a mechanical switch a couple years back. Joe Parlanti built a mechanical switch using a micro switch. When the pedal is pressed the contact is broken which switches the lights on. 
>> 
>> The below link is an article Joe wrote about his switch for the Aug 2018 Rootes Review.
>> 
>> https://teae.org/index.php?pmpro_getfile=rr/18-aug.pdf
>> 
>> If still running the stock brake switch definitely go with Castrol LMA.
>> 
>> All the Best
>> 
>> Jim Lindner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Stu via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> <20170812_121739.jpg>
>>> 
>>> A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement brake switch from some old Jeep, and no more problems.
>>> 
>>> Stu
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!   
>>>>    Beau 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> tigers at autox.team.net
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 10:01:51 2020
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:01:51 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Brake Light Switch
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z4dsCTheU4hREAyhU3VHFU8LT+x+TPen2uj59JXOfzmcQ@mail.gmail.com>

I went through way too many of the switches.  I've ALWAYS used LMA.  Never
varied.  I even tried the most expensive, named brand switches.  They all
ultimately failed.   So I made my own bracket and bought a mechanical
switch at Pep Boys.  Works like a charm, every time, all the time.

I will say though that rather than cut into the wires, I just extended the
stock wires from the stock switch back into the car at my mechanical switch.
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From blance598 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 10:15:55 2020
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:15:55 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 147
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Thank you all , it sure stirred up some response,  great photos under the
dash. Thanks again. Beau

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:57:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: James Armstrong <rollright at aol.com>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 144
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Thanks for the trunk picture, Will


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:15:02 -0400
From: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
To: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
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Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the
pedal.!
   Beau
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:30:04 -0700
From: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Switch
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Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
like any modern car.  You can plug it into the
harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
Gary


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> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
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> ?
> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
the pedal.!
>    Beau
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:32:20 +1000
From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Switch
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Find a good used original... and make sure you dont run silicone fluids

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> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 01:43:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle at yahoo.com>
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>, Gary
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 If you don't want to go to a mechanical switch.....when I went to Dot 5
silicone on my Desoto somebody recommended a switch from a Harley Davidson
that was also Dot 5 compatible.? HD has been using the Dot 5 for years (ABS
HDs now may use dot 4) and it worked fine on my Desoto.?? I did not have to
stomp on the brakes to get it to light up.

The one I had looked like this.?? Do the research on HD brake light
switches..I don't have the part number handy of the one I used but I know I
just went in to the local Harley dealer to get it.?? Might work for the
Sunbeams too.??



Doug Lyle


    On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 6:30:29 PM PDT, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
wrote:

 Any electrical switch mounted on the pedal,
like any modern car.? You can plug it into the
harness a few inches to the left of the pedal.
Leave the faulty hydraulic switch right where it is.
Gary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
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> ?
> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
the pedal.!?
>? ? Beau
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 10 10:23:43 2020
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:23:43 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake Light Switch
In-Reply-To: <CAAjp1z4dsCTheU4hREAyhU3VHFU8LT+x+TPen2uj59JXOfzmcQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Same experience on my Series 200 Griffith.

I checked the hydraulic switch immediately after installing.

It was functional

A week later it failed so I adapted a bracket from some old Toyota that was available and installed a GM mechanical brake plunger switch. I hid it all inside my pedal box. 

It works reliably.

 

Don Antilla 

Southbury, CT

203-264-8301 Home

203-592-8427 Cell

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, July 10, 2020 at 12:01 PM
To: Tiger's Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Brake Light Switch

 

I went through way too many of the switches.  I've ALWAYS used LMA.  Never varied.  I even tried the most expensive, named brand switches.  They all ultimately failed.   So I made my own bracket and bought a mechanical switch at Pep Boys.  Works like a charm, every time, all the time.  

 

I will say though that rather than cut into the wires, I just extended the stock wires from the stock switch back into the car at my mechanical switch.

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Fri Jul 10 12:46:46 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:46:46 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Brake Light Switch
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NOOOO...
You don't have to extend the wires.?? You don't need to cut any wires.

The rear wiring harness passes just to the left of the pedals.
Un-plug the Green/Purple connection.? Figure out which side goes to the 
back on the car, this is the stop lamp
positive side (the other side is grounded at the stoplamp.
Make a 6inch wire with a spade on one side to plug onto the new switch.
Put a bullet connector on the other side, plug it into the Green/Purple 
going to the stoplamp.

Make another shorter wire with spade on one side, plug into new switch.
Put a bullet on the other side and plug into the Purple/White (or 
Purple) wires dangling from the harness (according to
the schematic these are for the interior light that non-GT Tigers do not 
have).? You need to find the one with 12V
always on it.
Gary


On 7/10/2020 9:01 AM, Jay Laifman via Tigers wrote:
> I went through way too many of the switches.? I've ALWAYS used LMA.? 
> Never varied.? I even tried the most expensive, named brand switches.? 
> They all ultimately failed. ?So I made my own bracket and bought a 
> mechanical switch?at Pep Boys.? Works like?a charm, every time, all 
> the time.
>
> I will say though that rather than cut into the wires, I just extended 
> the stock wires from the stock switch back into the car at my 
> mechanical switch.
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 12:54:51 2020
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:54:51 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd:  Brake light sw
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Here's some good info from Tom Hall.

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Date: Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake light sw
To: <tigers at autox.team.net>, Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>


On 6/17/2018 7:14 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers wrote:

Does anyone know who makes a switch that you don't have to stand on the
pedal, or a substitute that works better.As most of you know the
replacements leak or just don't work too well. Brake lights not working is
not a good thing.

Beau


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 Sold many of these.  $65 plus shipping and tax as appropriate.

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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Fri Jul 10 13:03:08 2020
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:03:08 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
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Listers - 

 

I've been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It's
mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the
ideal scenario to run cool.   The car's been running between 210 and 220 at
50 mph on level roads.  It doesn't get a lot of miles, so I thought the
radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same
time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car
idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer
was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I
ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick - any other suggestions?   

 

Thanks as always, 

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

 

 

 

   



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From tkparker1941 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 13:36:35 2020
From: tkparker1941 at gmail.com (Tom Parker)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:36:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
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Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?

Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..

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> Listers ?
>
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> I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s
> mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the
> ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at
> 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the
> radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same
> time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car
> idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer
> was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I
> ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thanks as always,
>
>
>
> Graham Harlowe
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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 10 13:46:08 2020
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 19:46:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
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 Here is an article you should read.David

http://tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp
    On Friday, July 10, 2020, 12:03:28 PM PDT, gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Listers ? 

 ?

I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.?? It?s mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the ideal scenario to run cool.? ?The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at 50 mph on level roads.? It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the radiator might need a flush.? I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same time. ??Same temps.? I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.?? I ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions??? 

 ?

Thanks as always, 

 ?

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Fri Jul 10 13:51:50 2020
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:51:50 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
In-Reply-To: <CAE3_YO9QX5TcdgrQOnfAJfYsuMFsapR6d1E1BqjCPHeB3vnRGQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <000201d656f3$8e75e120$ab61a360$@comcast.net>

 

New problem.   It?s always seemed to run a LITTLE hot (over 200 at stoplights), but this seems like a step increase after it had been sitting.  I should add that the fuel gauge seems to be working fine, so probably not a voltage stabilizer problem.   The car is running great, but it?s hard to enjoy the drive when you?re staring at the temp gauge.  : )   - G.

 

   

 

From: Tom Parker <tkparker1941 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 3:37 PM
To: Graham Harlowe <gharlowe at comcast.net>
Cc: LIST TIGER <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?

 

Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Listers ? 

 

I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?   

 

Thanks as always, 

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

 

 

 

   

 


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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Fri Jul 10 13:58:24 2020
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:58:24 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
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I should also add that in the interest of cooling, the horn holes are blocked off, I have a thermo-switched pusher fan, undersized fan pulley, aftermarket Derale fan, and an aluminum radiator from Dale A.   I?m very familiar with the articles and tech tips available to keep a Tiger cool that our great community has made available.    ? G.

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 3:37 PM
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Cc: LIST TIGER <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?

 

Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Listers ? 

 

I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?   

 

Thanks as always, 

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

 

 

 



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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 10 13:58:27 2020
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:58:27 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
In-Reply-To: <CAE3_YO9QX5TcdgrQOnfAJfYsuMFsapR6d1E1BqjCPHeB3vnRGQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Your measurements sound similar to what I experienced on my 1966 427 Fairlane several years ago. The sensor is screwed into the aluminum intake manifold and it feeds an under-dash Stewart-Warner gauge.

Mine read consistently 200 to 210 which had me concerned because I had a 180 thermostat.

I then bought? an infrared thermometer and measured at the upper radiator hose; it read about 185 as I recall.

I thought about it and I THINK- but did not try to prove- that the engine heat conducted well from the cylinder heads onto the aluminum intake and thus probably raised the sensed temperature.

 

 

Don Antilla 

Southbury, CT

203-264-8301 Home

203-592-8427 Cell

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tom Parker via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Tom Parker <tkparker1941 at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, July 10, 2020 at 3:36 PM
To: Graham Harlowe <gharlowe at comcast.net>
Cc: LIST TIGER <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?

 

Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Listers ? 

 

I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?   

 

Thanks as always, 

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

 

 

 

   

 

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Fri Jul 10 15:07:00 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:07:00 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
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Graham

                One adage to follow is ? if it?s not puking coolant, it?s not overheating.

 

You should always double check the temp of the engine to the gauge with an IR thermometer or other means ? most gauges are off some.

Seems to me I read an article about someone putting a potentiometer or a small resistor in line with the temp gauge to make it read correctly.

 

You might want to do a system flush.  Make sure you read the Flush bottle directions completely for this.

I used Prestone Flush on my 1988 Mustang recently which stated for HD flush run the engine for 3 hours or more which I did by driving a couple hundred miles over 3 days.

 

On my Tiger I put an overflow bottle just in front of the header tank.   It will keep the coolant with your Tiger and not splashing on your front tire.

 

I also recommend that you flush and back flush the heater core.  The last time I did that all kinds of sediment came out.

I need to do that again this year.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of gharlowe at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 3:58 PM
To: 'Tom Parker' <tkparker1941 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'LIST TIGER' <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

 

 

I should also add that in the interest of cooling, the horn holes are blocked off, I have a thermo-switched pusher fan, undersized fan pulley, aftermarket Derale fan, and an aluminum radiator from Dale A.   I?m very familiar with the articles and tech tips available to keep a Tiger cool that our great community has made available.    ? G.

 

 

 

 

From: Tom Parker <tkparker1941 at gmail.com <mailto:tkparker1941 at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 3:37 PM
To: Graham Harlowe <gharlowe at comcast.net <mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net> >
Cc: LIST TIGER <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?

 

Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Listers ? 

 

I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?   

 

Thanks as always, 

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

 

 

 

 


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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Fri Jul 10 15:30:22 2020
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:30:22 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
In-Reply-To: <002a01d656fe$0f594980$2e0bdc80$@bluefrog.com>
References: <000c01d656ec$c09eee00$41dcca00$@comcast.net>
 <CAE3_YO9QX5TcdgrQOnfAJfYsuMFsapR6d1E1BqjCPHeB3vnRGQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <001401d65701$5851ada0$08f508e0$@comcast.net>

 

Thanks to Ron and others for the recommendations.   Joe Parlanti recommended checking the voltage stabilizer?I hadn?t really observed significant fuel gauge problems, so I didn?t think that was the problem.  Out of frustration, I checked under the dash and noticed the sheet metal mounting screw for the stabilizer was loose.   I disconnected the battery (a fried wiring harness taught me THAT lesson!), tightened up the mounting screw, and after restarting, the engine temps dropped about 30 degrees at the gauge.   I should package and sell that magic screw driver!   

 

Seems to be working well now and running between 175 and 195?Thanks again to all,  - G.

 

 

 

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 5:07 PM
To: gharlowe at comcast.net
Cc: 'LIST TIGER' <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

Graham

                One adage to follow is ? if it?s not puking coolant, it?s not overheating.

 

You should always double check the temp of the engine to the gauge with an IR thermometer or other means ? most gauges are off some.

Seems to me I read an article about someone putting a potentiometer or a small resistor in line with the temp gauge to make it read correctly.

 

You might want to do a system flush.  Make sure you read the Flush bottle directions completely for this.

I used Prestone Flush on my 1988 Mustang recently which stated for HD flush run the engine for 3 hours or more which I did by driving a couple hundred miles over 3 days.

 

On my Tiger I put an overflow bottle just in front of the header tank.   It will keep the coolant with your Tiger and not splashing on your front tire.

 

I also recommend that you flush and back flush the heater core.  The last time I did that all kinds of sediment came out.

I need to do that again this year.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of gharlowe at comcast.net <mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net> 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 3:58 PM
To: 'Tom Parker' <tkparker1941 at gmail.com <mailto:tkparker1941 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'LIST TIGER' <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

 

 

I should also add that in the interest of cooling, the horn holes are blocked off, I have a thermo-switched pusher fan, undersized fan pulley, aftermarket Derale fan, and an aluminum radiator from Dale A.   I?m very familiar with the articles and tech tips available to keep a Tiger cool that our great community has made available.    ? G.

 

 

 

 

From: Tom Parker <tkparker1941 at gmail.com <mailto:tkparker1941 at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 3:37 PM
To: Graham Harlowe <gharlowe at comcast.net <mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net> >
Cc: LIST TIGER <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?

 

Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?

 

Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Listers ? 

 

I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?   

 

Thanks as always, 

 

Graham Harlowe

B382001466

 

 

 

 


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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Fri Jul 10 20:07:31 2020
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:07:31 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
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Both IR thermometers that I have seem to work best when pointed at a black
surface.  I did an experiment where I painted a spot on a copper hot water
pipe black.  With the water flowing there was a noticeable difference
between the temperature of the black spot, and the shiny copper pipe about
an inch away, with the copper reading being lower.

So if you are comparing temperatures, be sure both spots are black, or at
least the same color.

 Also, despite the red dot one of my IR thermometers projects, the field of
view of the IR sensor appears to be actually much wider.  Of course, mine
were rather cheap($xx), compared to a pricey narrow angle Omega piece
($xxx).

Stu

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:31 PM <gharlowe at comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks to Ron and others for the recommendations.   Joe Parlanti
> recommended checking the voltage stabilizer?I hadn?t really observed
> significant fuel gauge problems, so I didn?t think that was the problem.
> Out of frustration, I checked under the dash and noticed the sheet metal
> mounting screw for the stabilizer was loose.   I disconnected the battery
> (a fried wiring harness taught me THAT lesson!), tightened up the mounting
> screw, and after restarting, the engine temps dropped about 30 degrees at
> the gauge.   I should package and sell that magic screw driver!
>
>
>
> Seems to be working well now and running between 175 and 195?Thanks again
> to all,  - G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 5:07 PM
> *To:* gharlowe at comcast.net
> *Cc:* 'LIST TIGER' <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
>
>
>
> Graham
>
>                 One adage to follow is ? if it?s not puking coolant, it?s
> not overheating.
>
>
>
> You should always double check the temp of the engine to the gauge with an
> IR thermometer or other means ? most gauges are off some.
>
> Seems to me I read an article about someone putting a potentiometer or a
> small resistor in line with the temp gauge to make it read correctly.
>
>
>
> You might want to do a system flush.  Make sure you read the Flush bottle
> directions completely for this.
>
> I used Prestone Flush on my 1988 Mustang recently which stated for HD
> flush run the engine for 3 hours or more which I did by driving a couple
> hundred miles over 3 days.
>
>
>
> On my Tiger I put an overflow bottle just in front of the header tank.
> It will keep the coolant with your Tiger and not splashing on your front
> tire.
>
>
>
> I also recommend that you flush and back flush the heater core.  The last
> time I did that all kinds of sediment came out.
>
> I need to do that again this year.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> gharlowe at comcast.net
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 3:58 PM
> *To:* 'Tom Parker' <tkparker1941 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'LIST TIGER' <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I should also add that in the interest of cooling, the horn holes are
> blocked off, I have a thermo-switched pusher fan, undersized fan pulley,
> aftermarket Derale fan, and an aluminum radiator from Dale A.   I?m very
> familiar with the articles and tech tips available to keep a Tiger cool
> that our great community has made available.    ? G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Parker <tkparker1941 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 3:37 PM
> *To:* Graham Harlowe <gharlowe at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* LIST TIGER <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Temp Gauge Reading High?
>
>
>
> Graham, Is this a new problem or has it always been like that?
>
>
>
> Tom Parker - tkparker1941 at gmail..
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM gharlowe--- via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Listers ?
>
>
>
> I?ve been troubleshooting what I thought was a hot-running motor.   It?s
> mid-summer in the mid-Atlantic, and I have a triple-black Tiger, so not the
> ideal scenario to run cool.   The car?s been running between 210 and 220 at
> 50 mph on level roads.  It doesn?t get a lot of miles, so I thought the
> radiator might need a flush.  I changed the thermostat (180deg) at the same
> time.   Same temps.  I pulled out an infrared thermometer and with the car
> idling, the temp gauge was indicating ~ 215 while the infrared thermometer
> was reading 183 when pointed at the water outlet and F4B manifold.   I
> ordered a new temp sending unit from Rick ? any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thanks as always,
>
>
>
> Graham Harlowe
>
> B382001466
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Jul 11 14:09:35 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:09:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
In-Reply-To: <CA+DpG65MA4qT2TKwfXQEPr8LPXfKKduu2W76Kc3U_6HfXUGVxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nU3CuL0KdXJSgo5SsQghrb-aqNLnVfCu89Q-=6ZcjFEOg@mail.gmail.com>
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Stu

                Any chance you have a drawing of your brake light switch bracket.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Stu via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 10:14 PM
To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
Cc: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Switch

 



A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement brake switch from some old Jeep, and no more problems.

 

Stu

 

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on the pedal.!   

   Beau 

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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Sat Jul 11 18:50:02 2020
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:50:02 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Sledgehammered Firewall
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For those amused by the legend of the Tiger firewall being whacked with 
a sledge hammer you might find this International Harvester truck 
comment worthy of a chuckle. Cued up and short: Sledgehammered Firewalls 
<https://youtu.be/fkZq_hnF-jg?t=327>

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From W_Pierzga at msn.com  Tue Jul  7 10:01:32 2020
From: W_Pierzga at msn.com (Wayne Pierzga)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:01:32 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
In-Reply-To: <CAMRx0haofhfyQ8wQf24sSh4hkpEroDAoh9tYFnYVc3oeoaVMag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1879268017.1232716.1594032982991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <BL0PR02MB4753C8A203FB3C7A78BF35AF9F690@BL0PR02MB4753.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi Will

Yours must be an import ;-)

Wayne

From: Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint

My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com<mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com<mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:
Hi Clyde

The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]

I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never come across a jack painted gray.

You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity out today  UGH]

All the best,
Wayne

From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net> [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net<mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>]
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint

Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks Clyde
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 19:44:53 2020
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:44:53 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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Ive seen the grey jacks before, not sure the why/how. there are also more
than 1 type of jack.. not sure if the machinery grey was used on
certain types, i know other rootes cars had the jacks in the grey as well.

IIRC the colour issue was discussed a while back in one of the forums.

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 11:05, Wayne Pierzga via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack is.....
> your grey jack - unique.
>
> I?ve never encountered a grey jack
>
> I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger.  Yours is
> unique!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
> *To:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I
> said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so
> Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> Here's the picture:
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Will
>
>
>
> Yours must be an import ;-)
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of
> telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Clyde
>
>
>
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack
> handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
>
>
>
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top
> frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never
> come across a jack painted gray.
>
>
>
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or
> opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out
> walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity
> out today  UGH]
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks
> Clyde
>
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From aballard at ix.netcom.com  Wed Jul  8 20:29:54 2020
From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:29:54 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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Several years ago I came across a grey jack on Ebay.  I wanted it because it was taller than my
Mk1a?s black jack.

If you?ve actually used a stock jack to change a flat you may feel that some additional height can be helpful.

I?ve kept the grey jack in lieu of the black jack ever since. It?s been used a couple of times.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
Series I Alpine



> On Jul 8, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Pierzga via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack is..... your grey jack - unique.  
> 
> I?ve never encountered a grey jack
> 
> I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger.  Yours is unique!
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> From: Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
> To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>  
> You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
> To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>  
> Here's the picture:
> 
> Will - 382001570 
> Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> 
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com <mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:
> Hi Will
> 
>  
> 
> Yours must be an import ;-)
> 
>  
> 
> Wayne
> 
> ? <>
> From: Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
> To: Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com <mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>>
> Cc: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack paint
> 
>  
> 
> My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
> 
>  
> 
> Will - 382001570 
> Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com <mailto:W_Pierzga at msn.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Clyde
> 
>  
> 
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
> 
>  
> 
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never come across a jack painted gray.
> 
>  
> 
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity out today  UGH]
> 
>  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Wayne
> 
> ? <>
> From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net> [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>] 
> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
> 
>  
> 
> Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks Clyde
> 
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> 
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Wed Jul  8 21:59:23 2020
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:59:23 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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That looks like a monster of a jack.  How long is it?  Haven't measured my
jack so don't know the length.  Was waiting for someone to tell us exactly
what length to measure.  My guess is that the "length" is the length of the
body of the jack excluding the fitting on the top and the foot.  Had the
opportunity to use my jack not long ago - blowout, was doing about 75 on
the interstate, very exciting; want to see pictures?  Anyhow the jack
performed beautifully and I even had air in the spare.  Who would figure?

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:29 PM Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

> Several years ago I came across a grey jack on Ebay.  I wanted it because
> it was taller than my
> Mk1a?s black jack.
>
> If you?ve actually used a stock jack to change a flat you may feel that
> some additional height can be helpful.
>
> I?ve kept the grey jack in lieu of the black jack ever since. It?s been
> used a couple of times.
>
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
> Series I Alpine
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Pierzga via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack is.....
> your grey jack - unique.
>
> I?ve never encountered a grey jack
>
> I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger.  Yours is
> unique!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
> *To:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I
> said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so
> Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> Here's the picture:
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Will
>
>
>
> Yours must be an import ;-)
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of
> telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Clyde
>
>
>
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack
> handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
>
>
>
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top
> frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never
> come across a jack painted gray.
>
>
>
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or
> opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out
> walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity
> out today  UGH]
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks
> Clyde
>
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 22:11:29 2020
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:11:29 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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Not unique. My Mk1A has a gray jack.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 8:06 PM Wayne Pierzga via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack is.....
> your grey jack - unique.
>
> I?ve never encountered a grey jack
>
> I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger.  Yours is
> unique!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
> *To:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I
> said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so
> Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> Here's the picture:
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Will
>
>
>
> Yours must be an import ;-)
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of
> telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Clyde
>
>
>
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack
> handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
>
>
>
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top
> frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never
> come across a jack painted gray.
>
>
>
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or
> opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out
> walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity
> out today  UGH]
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> Is the Tiger jack black a high gloss black or a semi gloss black? Thanks
> Clyde
>
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Fri Jul 10 09:26:31 2020
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:26:31 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Switch
In-Reply-To: <b2051746-6901-c471-6876-fba43f4224ed@comcast.net>
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That looks a lot like my switch

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:49 AM Gary via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Here is the switch I bought in February:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAKE-LIGHT-STOP-LIGHT-STOPLIGHT-SWITCH-FITS-GM-DODGE-FORD-JEEP-SAAB-1953-1999/352862547043?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
>
> $7 shipped to me.
> My original stock switch finally gave out after 56 years, not too shabby.
> I just left it in place with its wires plugged in, it looks stock and
> doesn't leak.
> Gary
>
>
>
> On 7/9/2020 9:36 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> You are not giving credit to the paper clip!
>
> I used the same Jeep/GM/everything switch.  It was the cheapest I could
> find on ebay.
> I made a simple "L" kind of bracket that I screwed up to the panel right
> above.
> Gary
>
>
> On 7/9/2020 7:14 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
>
> [image: 20170812_121739.jpg]
> A muffler U-bolt clamp, a scrap of aluminum, and a replacement brake
> switch from some old Jeep, and no more problems.
>
> Stu
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone recommend a stop light sw that WORKS , with out standing on
>> the pedal.!
>>    Beau
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Tue Jul 14 09:43:58 2020
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:43:58 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack paint
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Think they were Yokohamas.  Tires were around 10 years old, getting a bit
long in the tooth, but the problem was clearly a very large road hazard.
See pictures attached.  Was probably a good thing - used this as an
incentive to finish restoring 6" wheels for the rears.  Car now has new
185X70s on 5" wheels on the front and 205X60s on 6"wheels on the rear.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:41 AM Gary <maliburevue at yahoo.com> wrote:

> What tires did you have? How old?
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020, 10:23:42 PM MDT, Will Seay <
> tigers at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That looks like a monster of a jack.  How long is it?  Haven't measured my
> jack so don't know the length.  Was waiting for someone to tell us exactly
> what length to measure.  My guess is that the "length" is the length of the
> body of the jack excluding the fitting on the top and the foot.  Had the
> opportunity to use my jack not long ago - blowout, was doing about 75 on
> the interstate, very exciting; want to see pictures?  Anyhow the jack
> performed beautifully and I even had air in the spare.  Who would figure?
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:29 PM Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> Several years ago I came across a grey jack on Ebay.  I wanted it because
> it was taller than my
> Mk1a?s black jack.
>
> If you?ve actually used a stock jack to change a flat you may feel that
> some additional height can be helpful.
>
> I?ve kept the grey jack in lieu of the black jack ever since. It?s been
> used a couple of times.
>
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
> Series I Alpine
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Pierzga via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Since 1972 have all been painted ?chassis black?. Your grey jack is.....
> your grey jack - unique.
>
> I?ve never encountered a grey jack
>
> I?ve owned Series 1-5 Alpines, a 1965 Tiger and a Mk II Tiger.  Yours is
> unique!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wayne Pierzga <w_pierzga at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58:31 PM
> *To:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> You do realize that black ages to grey...  Just pulling your leg. All I
> said to Clyde is that the jack, handle and. tire nut on all 16 or so
> Alpines/Tigers I?ve owned
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:19:47 PM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net <clydemclaughlin at verizon.net>;
> tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
> Here's the picture:
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:01 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Will
>
>
>
> Yours must be an import ;-)
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay [mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:40 AM
> *To:* Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com>
> *Cc:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] jack paint
>
>
>
> My jack is gray.  I'm the original owner of my Tiger and I'm tired of
> telling other Tiger owners that the jack has always been gray.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Wayne Pierzga <W_Pierzga at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Clyde
>
>
>
> The untouched OEM jack I have is painted chassis-black. Same for the jack
> handle and the tire hold-down bolt/washer. [and the Alpine hand crank]
>
>
>
> I saw someone say some jacks were painted gray (same color as the soft-top
> frame). In the 16 alpines/tigers I have owned over the years, I have never
> come across a jack painted gray.
>
>
>
> You still down south having fun?  All is quiet here. Places are open or
> opening but traffic is mostly sparse. Car traffic too. More folks out
> walking most evenings when the weather is good. [it is 100F 100% humidity
> out today  UGH]
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> *From:* clydemclaughlin at verizon.net [mailto:clydemclaughlin at verizon.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2020 6:56 AM
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From jhmearsrn at aol.com  Tue Jul 21 14:57:06 2020
From: jhmearsrn at aol.com (JOHN MEARS)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:57:06 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] jack label
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Where on the jack was the ?Shelly? label located that was supposedly on them when new?

John
9471072

From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jul 21 15:30:45 2020
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:30:45 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack label
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Message-ID: <mailman.21.1595367056.2902.tigers@autox.team.net>


Attached is the location of the jack label.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: JOHN MEARS via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 7/21/20  4:57 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tiger list <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: [Tigers] jack label Where on the jack was the ?Shelly? label located that was supposedly on them when new?John9471072_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimdamelio at verizon.net
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From chris at cthompson.net  Tue Jul 21 15:44:04 2020
From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:44:04 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack label
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anyone make a repro?

On 7/21/2020 5:30 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers wrote:
> Attached is the location of the jack label.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: JOHN MEARS via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 7/21/20 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tiger list <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] jack label
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> Where on the jack was the ?Shelly? label located that was supposedly 
> on them when new?
>
> John
> 9471072
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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Tue Jul 21 18:41:08 2020
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:41:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 165
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I hope everybody's doing okay here's a cabin fever posting.
I remember when I got a hey your air cleaner housing is on backwards... The 69024 part number was facing aft. 
I said to myself I can't see those 
Brits saying to themselves oh I must put that on facing aft or facing forward... It's a sticker on the jack I suppose they kind of put it kind of close to where it was supposed to be as they say in SoCal? mas or menos :)
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From: JOHN MEARS <jhmearsrn at aol.com>
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Subject: [Tigers] jack label
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Where on the jack was the ?Shelly? label located that was supposedly on them when new?

John
9471072

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:30:45 -0400
From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
To: JOHN MEARS <jhmearsrn at aol.com>, tiger list <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack label
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Attached is the location of the jack label.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: JOHN MEARS via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 7/21/20? 4:57 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: tiger list <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: [Tigers] jack label Where on the jack was the ?Shelly? label located that was supposedly on them when new?John9471072_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimdamelio at verizon.net
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jul 21 19:58:05 2020
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:58:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] jack label
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Reproduction labels are available from Sean Johnson in Washington state.? They are $4 each.? His email address is healey at communitynet.org.? He makes the repro oil filter hoses and ballist resistors among other things.? The pre-production MKIA on Bring a Trailer was restored by him.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Thompson <chris at cthompson.net> Date: 7/21/20  5:44 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, JOHN MEARS <jhmearsrn at aol.com>, tiger list <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] jack label 
    anyone make a repro?
    
    On 7/21/2020 5:30 PM, jimdamelio via
      Tigers wrote:
    
    
      
      Attached is the location of the jack label.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
        Sent from my
          Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
      
      
      
      
      
      
        -------- Original message --------
        From: JOHN MEARS via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 
        Date: 7/21/20 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00) 
        To: tiger list <tigers at autox.team.net> 
        Subject: [Tigers] jack label 
        
        
      
      Where on the jack was the ?Shelly? label located that was
      supposedly on them when new?
      
      John
      9471072
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From rollright at aol.com  Wed Jul 22 15:22:04 2020
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:22:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] refinished MiniLites and fresh Vredesteins
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Hello Sport Car fans,


Well, some months ago, I reported that there were serious cracks in the sidewalls of my old Dunlops.
Further, was time to refinish my vintage Minilites. At $ 200 each I could have bought Asian knock-offs but they came out fabulous, better than I could have hoped.
I contacted Tire Rack and had a set of Vredestine Sprint Classic 185-70-13s. and had them shipped directly to the rim refinisher (Rim Pro in MA) for mounting & balancing.

I can say that the tires, with fresh shocks (thanks Rick!) t?transformed the car. I'm not?a racer or an autocrosser, just a street cruiser who likes to?boot it once in a while. And their pretty good in the wet!
I recommend this tire highly. Hope this helps!? .
Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC #....

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From blance598 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 24 18:23:39 2020
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:23:39 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake light wired
Message-ID: <CACQC2nW2NKpJTYW4jCPdePAfFbYJu1O1Ds7WqRgwRQ9u_WeeFA@mail.gmail.com>

Someone resently  explained how to wire a brake light under the dash by
going into the nearby harness, can you please send it again . Just
completed switch ass under dash, now to wire it up . It will be nice to
have brake lights that work again, on, and off.
     Beau
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Fri Jul 24 18:46:34 2020
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:46:34 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Re:  Brake Light Switch
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That was me that posted the mechanical brake switch wiring notes,
here it is again (any questions, just ask!):


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Subject: 	Re: [Tigers] Brake Light Switch
Date: 	Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:46:46 -0700
From: 	Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: 	Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com>, Tiger's Den 
<tigers at autox.team.net>



NOOOO...
You don't have to extend the wires.?? You don't need to cut any wires.

The rear wiring harness passes just to the left of the pedals.
Un-plug the Green/Purple connection.? Figure out which side goes to the 
back on the car, this is the stop lamp
positive side (the other side is grounded at the stoplamp.
Make a 6inch wire with a spade on one side to plug onto the new switch.
Put a bullet connector on the other side, plug it into the Green/Purple 
going to the stoplamp.

Make another shorter wire with spade on one side, plug into new switch.
Put a bullet on the other side and plug into the Purple/White (or 
Purple) wires dangling from the harness (according to
the schematic these are for the interior light that non-GT Tigers do not 
have).? You need to find the one with 12V
always on it.
Gary


On 7/10/2020 9:01 AM, Jay Laifman via Tigers wrote:
> I went through way too many of the switches. I've ALWAYS used LMA.? 
> Never varied.? I even tried the most expensive, named brand switches.? 
> They all ultimately failed. ?So I made my own bracket and bought a 
> mechanical switch?at Pep Boys.? Works like?a charm, every time, all 
> the time.
>
> I will say though that rather than cut into the wires, I just extended 
> the stock wires from the stock switch back into the car at my 
> mechanical switch.
>
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