From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Tue Jan 7 09:34:32 2020 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 16:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's References: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358@mail.yahoo.com> It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back in the early 70's. ?These comments apply to all the popular British marques. ?In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch. ?The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especially the BRG ones. ?They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they liked the best. ?That being said, which green or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different shade. ?When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste. ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atwittsend at verizon.net Tue Jan 7 10:28:53 2020 From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 09:28:53 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's In-Reply-To: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358@mail.yahoo.com> References: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <273289859.5229775.1578414872358@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief being on 12/26/19 I stated, ?Like many things Tiger it might be that each color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and even waxing treatments alter the shade.? And that simply based on a hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing about who has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the ?family? of #86?s and like with identical twins there are still subtle differences. From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back in the early 70's. These comments apply to all the popular British marques. In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch. The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especially the BRG ones. They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they liked the best. That being said, which green or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different shade. When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aballard at ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 7 12:45:19 2020 From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 14:45:19 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: British car colors from the 60's References: Message-ID: Subtle differences? Sure. Different shades? Probably not. Can a concours judge be expected to separate non-Rootes BRG from Forest Green #86? Yes, I would think so. Allan Ballard Mk1a Tiger Series I Alpine Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Tom Witt via Tigers > Date: January 7, 2020 at 12:28:53 PM EST > To: > Subject: Re: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's > Reply-To: Tom Witt > > A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief being on 12/26/19 I stated, ?Like many things Tiger it might be that each color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and even waxing treatments alter the shade.? And that simply based on a hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing about who has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the ?family? of #86?s and like with identical twins there are still subtle differences. > > From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM > To: tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's > > It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back in the early 70's. These comments apply to all the popular British marques. In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch. The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especially the BRG ones. They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they liked the best. That being said, which green or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different shade. When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard at ix.netcom.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From e.coiner at cox.net Tue Jan 7 20:28:28 2020 From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner e.coiner) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 22:28:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's In-Reply-To: References: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <273289859.5229775.1578414872358@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <703403397.19348.1578454108793@myemail.cox.net> Sunbeam contention over the true color of Forest Green is NOTHING compared to Shelby Cobra debates on the true shade of Guardsman Blue. OY! > On January 7, 2020 at 12:28 PM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > > A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief being on 12/26/19 I stated, ? Like many things Tiger it might be that each color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and even waxing treatments alter the shade.? And that simply based on a hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing about who has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the ?family? of #86?s and like with identical twins there are still subtle differences. > > From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM > To: tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's > > It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back in the early 70's. These comments apply to all the popular British marques. In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch. The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especially the BRG ones. They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they liked the best. That being said, which green or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different shade. When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste. > > > --------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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IIRC it pretty much agreed with the appraised value of mine a couple years back. Stu On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:29 AM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good site to get a good idea of the value of my > Tiger > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sabre2tgr at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phastphill at aol.com Wed Jan 8 10:55:21 2020 From: phastphill at aol.com (phastphill at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] BRG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board or short board...no da swirls -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am Subject: [Tigers] BRG A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art than today, but they all looked great!!? Beau.?_______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atwittsend at verizon.net Wed Jan 8 11:21:49 2020 From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:21:49 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] BRG In-Reply-To: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> References: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <93C3FF4D8C6F4ADD9360C3B455C7F914@user1PC> ?...even the judges can't agree...? Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as ?...no da swirls,? well only if there were no swirls from the factory. But then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after dealer prep. So, what is original? Will it get to the point that judges microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tires for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. From: phastphill--- via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM To: blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board or short board...no da swirls -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am Subject: [Tigers] BRG A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art than today, but they all looked great!! 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URL: From aballard at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 8 11:44:46 2020 From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 13:44:46 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] BRG In-Reply-To: <93C3FF4D8C6F4ADD9360C3B455C7F914@user1PC> References: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> <93C3FF4D8C6F4ADD9360C3B455C7F914@user1PC> Message-ID: <99BB5024-2711-46D5-A12A-1357007F6B9B@ix.netcom.com> Folks who have zero trouble spotting Forest Green 86 from 20 yards away suddenly go color blind on the concours? Personally, I enjoy cars with personal choice colors. Perhaps one day I?ll repaint mine a shade of blue, in remembrance of my First tiger back in the 60s. But show me a judge who can?t spot Forest Green 86 and you?ll identify a judge who should volunteer for another Assignment. > On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > > ?...even the judges can't agree...? > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as ?...no da swirls,? well only if there were no swirls from the factory. But then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after dealer prep. So, what is original? Will it get to the point that judges microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tires for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? > > I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > > From: phastphill--- via Tigers > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > To: blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG > > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art than today, but they all looked great!! Beau. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard at ix.netcom.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Wed Jan 8 11:49:56 2020 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] BRG In-Reply-To: <93C3FF4D8C6F4ADD9360C3B455C7F914@user1PC> References: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> <93C3FF4D8C6F4ADD9360C3B455C7F914@user1PC> Message-ID: It really depends on the competition in the concours world. When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count. One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete. And another interesting story. I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration. Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the winners had to go even further. This restorer was showing that the paint on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately. He "perfected" that peel! He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on. So the paint under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > ?...even the judges can't agree...? > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified > to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slightly > gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as ?...no da swirls,? well only > if there were no swirls from the factory. But then..., what is original? > Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process > they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after > dealer prep. So, what is original? Will it get to the point that judges > microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tires > for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent > that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk > fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? > > I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship > there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative > side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t > ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > > *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > *To:* blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't > agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over > spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it > takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board > or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG > > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had > the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art > than today, but they all looked great!! Beau. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wjtwgoodman at aol.com Wed Jan 8 13:37:49 2020 From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4 References: <235586476.10188378.1578515869151.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <235586476.10188378.1578515869151@mail.yahoo.com> So get out your brush and paint the grill mouth black. Then get a corn whisk broom and slip on undercoating..... ;) On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 tigers-request wrote: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to ??? tigers at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? tigers-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? tigers-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: BRG (Jay Laifman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Tom Witt Cc: "Tiger's Den" Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It really depends on the competition in the concours world.? When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count. One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete. And another interesting story.? I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration.? Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the winners had to go even further.? This restorer was showing that the paint on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.? He "perfected" that peel!? He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on.? So the paint under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > ?...even the judges can't agree...? > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified > to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slightly > gray and yet I see a hint of green.? As far as ?...no da swirls,? well only > if there were no swirls from the factory.? But then..., what is original? > Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process > they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after > dealer prep. So, what is original?? Will it get to the point that judges > microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tires > for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent > that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk > fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? > >? I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship > there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative > side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t > ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > > *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > *To:* blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't > agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over > spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it > takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board > or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG > > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had > the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art > than today, but they all looked great!!? Beau. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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McDowell) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:39:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? In-Reply-To: <08BE4247A48F45C59E2EC04F34853DF2@heinz> References: <08BE4247A48F45C59E2EC04F34853DF2@heinz> Message-ID: <1399754325.265954.1578519584259@connect.xfinity.com> Well, if it isn't, it damn well should be! Tym McDowell > On January 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM heinz mihm via Tigers wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=true https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=true > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2 at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atwittsend at verizon.net Wed Jan 8 14:46:51 2020 From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 13:46:51 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? In-Reply-To: <1399754325.265954.1578519584259@connect.xfinity.com> References: <08BE4247A48F45C59E2EC04F34853DF2@heinz> <1399754325.265954.1578519584259@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: California Vehicle Code 10752 VC makes it a crime to sell a vehicle identification number or to possess a VIN that is stolen or fraudulent. This offense is also a wobbler. A misdemeanor conviction carries a sentence of up to one year in county jail; a felony conviction carries up to 3 years in state prison. Underlined is mine. It appears OK to have, but not sell the VIN. What I find almost comical is the statement, ?or even more useful if you happen to have the Tiger these came on originally.? Which, begs the question, how would you know? From: Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:39 PM To: heinz mihm ; heinz mihm via Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? Well, if it isn't, it damn well should be! 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URL: From tkparker1941 at gmail.com Wed Jan 8 14:49:02 2020 From: tkparker1941 at gmail.com (Tom Parker) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:49:02 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? In-Reply-To: References: <08BE4247A48F45C59E2EC04F34853DF2@heinz> <1399754325.265954.1578519584259@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: We hope Norm sees and records the VIN. Tom P On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:47 PM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > *California* Vehicle Code 10752 VC makes it a crime to *sell* a vehicle > identification *number* or to *possess a **VIN** that is stolen or > fraudulent*. This offense is also a wobbler. A misdemeanor conviction > carries a sentence of up to one year in county jail; a felony conviction > carries up to 3 years in state prison. > > Underlined is mine. It appears OK to have, but not sell the VIN. What I > find almost comical is the statement, ?or even more useful if you happen > to have the Tiger these came on originally.? Which, begs the question, > how would you know? > > *From:* Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:39 PM > *To:* heinz mihm ; heinz mihm via Tigers > > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? > > Well, if it isn't, it damn well should be! > > Tym McDowell > > On January 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM heinz mihm via Tigers > wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=true > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2 at comcast.net > > > > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 tigers-request wrote: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to ??? tigers at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? tigers-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? tigers-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4 (Warren Goodman) ? 2. ebay listing: isn't? this illegal? (heinz mihm) ? 3. Re: ebay listing: isn't this illegal? (Dr. T. Y. McDowell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Warren Goodman To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4 Message-ID: <235586476.10188378.1578515869151 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" So get out your brush and paint the grill mouth black. Then get a corn whisk broom and slip on undercoating..... ;) On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 tigers-request wrote: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to ??? tigers at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? tigers-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? tigers-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: BRG (Jay Laifman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Tom Witt Cc: "Tiger's Den" Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It really depends on the competition in the concours world.? When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count. One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete. And another interesting story.? I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration.? Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the winners had to go even further.? This restorer was showing that the paint on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.? He "perfected" that peel!? He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on.? So the paint under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > ?...even the judges can't agree...? > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified > to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slightly > gray and yet I see a hint of green.? As far as ?...no da swirls,? well only > if there were no swirls from the factory.? But then..., what is original? > Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process > they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after > dealer prep. So, what is original?? Will it get to the point that judges > microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tires > for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent > that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk > fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? > >? I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship > there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative > side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t > ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > > *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > *To:* blance598 at gmail.com ; tigers at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't > agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over > spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it > takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board > or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG > > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had > the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art > than today, but they all looked great!!? Beau. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill at aol.com > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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McDowell" To: heinz mihm , heinz mihm via Tigers ??? Subject: Re: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? Message-ID: <1399754325.265954.1578519584259 at connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Well,? if it isn't, it damn well should be! Tym McDowell > On January 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM heinz mihm via Tigers wrote: > >? ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=true https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=true >? ? ? >? ? _______________________________________________ > >? ? tigers at autox.team.net > >? ? Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >? ? Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > >? ? Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2 at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From chris at cthompson.net Wed Jan 8 15:57:08 2020 From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <847503267.10292432.1578523390280@mail.yahoo.com> References: <847503267.10292432.1578523390280.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <847503267.10292432.1578523390280@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <149f7404-c645-fe39-de37-e7eb590ed666@cthompson.net> He's also selling Alpine tags and original rivets. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-VIN-and-SAL-Plates-Original-Rivets/333462890657?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D5c6573b68c504de9be1e36f70743406c%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D184119988045%26itm%3D333462890657%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109 On 1/8/2020 5:43 PM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote: > > The VIN tag sale is against eBay policy's. Apparently nobody cares > enough to report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited > items is Vin tags and rivets without the car they go to. > I don't know why Chris Richards would do this. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollright at aol.com Thu Jan 9 08:47:51 2020 From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 15:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Minilite center cups References: <926378890.5931093.1578584871310.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <926378890.5931093.1578584871310@mail.yahoo.com> Hello, Just had my Minilites/tires removed to have the Minilites refinished by a local company called RimPro. When they finish, they will mount new Vredestines. The center cups on the 1979 13" Minilites need to be replaced. Any bright ideas on where I can get more?UK factory in Shropshire says they "think" they can supply, the US source won't even give a phone or an address. No mention of centers on their site. Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC #.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbsyv at yahoo.com Fri Jan 10 00:17:03 2020 From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim B) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 23:17:03 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] eBay VIN sales In-Reply-To: <149f7404-c645-fe39-de37-e7eb590ed666@cthompson.net> References: <847503267.10292432.1578523390280.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <847503267.10292432.1578523390280@mail.yahoo.com> <149f7404-c645-fe39-de37-e7eb590ed666@cthompson.net> Message-ID: It?s been a while since I scrolled though the parts listings on eBay. I reported the sale of the VIN tag sale FWIW. Also a JAL tag listed on there. I guess someone could use rear end and engine numbers to try and see if the tag was for YOUR car !?. 500$ for a wall plaque seems unlikely. There are also the ?blank? tags for sale which can be used for special construction cars so, I don?t get too excited about that. I?m guessing that tag that sold will end up on an Alger sometime in the future. I guess if you had a Tiger basket case with no tag you could get it approved by the DMV, but still, wouldn?t be original to the car. Things that make you go Hmmm. Jim > On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Chris Thompson via Tigers wrote: > > He's also selling Alpine tags and original rivets. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-VIN-and-SAL-Plates-Original-Rivets/333462890657?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D5c6573b68c504de9be1e36f70743406c%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D184119988045%26itm%3D333462890657%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109 > On 1/8/2020 5:43 PM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote: >> The VIN tag sale is against eBay policy's. Apparently nobody cares enough to report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited items is Vin tags and rivets without the car they go to. >> I don't know why Chris Richards would do this. >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Fri Jan 10 13:07:16 2020 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:07:16 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Short Wiper Follow Up Report Message-ID: Thanks everyone for the great and creative suggestions. We finally found a match. It is an MG TF wiper that has been shortened by a few inches. Really appreciate the help. 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URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Sat Jan 11 07:50:38 2020 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:50:38 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Minilite center cups In-Reply-To: <926378890.5931093.1578584871310@mail.yahoo.com> References: <926378890.5931093.1578584871310.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <926378890.5931093.1578584871310@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d5c88e$7f3a3510$7dae9f30$@bluefrog.com> Jim Victoria British has an Alloy Wheel with center caps sold separately ? will they work? http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/csc/full.aspx?Page=161 Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 10:48 AM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Minilite center cups Hello, Just had my Minilites/tires removed to have the Minilites refinished by a local company called RimPro. When they finish, they will mount new Vredestines. The center cups on the 1979 13" Minilites need to be replaced. Any bright ideas on where I can get more? UK factory in Shropshire says they "think" they can supply, the US source won't even give a phone or an address. No mention of centers on their site. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE Code 86 TAC #.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rollright at aol.com Sat Jan 11 16:36:54 2020 From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:36:54 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FE6FDC4-9CD0-4012-8CB8-0DA0BCE36C10@aol.com> I looked but I don?t think they do. Plus I don?t want it to say mini light in the center. Summit racing has gorilla center caps but I have to make sure that they?re the right size. If I find a match I?ll let everybody know. thanks Ron, for being there Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:00 PM, tigers-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > ?Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Short Wiper Follow Up Report (Jay Laifman) > 2. Re: Minilite center cups (Ron Fraser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:07:16 -0800 > From: Jay Laifman > To: "Tiger's Den" > Subject: [Tigers] Short Wiper Follow Up Report > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks everyone for the great and creative suggestions. We finally found a > match. It is an MG TF wiper that has been shortened by a few inches. > > Really appreciate the help. > > Tiger cross over: the MG TF green looks nothing like the Tiger Forest Green! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:50:38 -0500 > From: "Ron Fraser" > To: "'James Armstrong'" > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Minilite center cups > Message-ID: <000001d5c88e$7f3a3510$7dae9f30$@bluefrog.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim > > Victoria British has an Alloy Wheel with center caps sold separately ? will they work? > > http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/csc/full.aspx?Page=161 > > > > > > Ron Fraser > > > > From: Tigers On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 10:48 AM > To: tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Minilite center cups > > > > Hello, > > > > Just had my Minilites/tires removed to have the Minilites refinished by a local company called RimPro. When they finish, they will mount new Vredestines. > > > > The center cups on the 1979 13" Minilites need to be replaced. Any bright ideas on where I can get more? > > UK factory in Shropshire says they "think" they can supply, the US source won't even give a phone or an address. No mention of centers on their site. > > > > Jim Armstrong > > Mk 1A > > 382002083 LRXFE > > Code 86 > > TAC #.... > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 > ************************************* From rick at atmospherebuilders.com Sun Jan 12 11:11:48 2020 From: rick at atmospherebuilders.com (rick at atmospherebuilders.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:11:48 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] after market steering wheels Message-ID: <008701d5c973$c54f53b0$4fedfb10$@atmospherebuilders.com> Hi All, My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. Thanks. Best Regards, Rick Hyatt | President 540.257.0864 rick at atmospherebuilders.com www.atmospherebuilders.com PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 673 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And the horn will work, that too is a separate assembly. Tom, '67 Mark 2 On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:25 PM Richard Hyatt via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any > circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket > steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the > telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn > function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or > deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rick Hyatt | President > > [image: cid:image003.jpg at 01D0A900.B6A56090] 540.257.0864 > > [image: Atmosphere blue logo 2] > > [image: *] rick at atmospherebuilders.com > > [image: *] www.atmospherebuilders.com > > PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 > > 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is an extender at the end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column. This extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens to allow the telescoping to work. I took off the extender and replaced it with two nuts. To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn button, and use to wrenches. But to be honest, I haven't moved it again since I did that - and I really don't let anyone else drive it. If they did, and they didn't like where I want it, tough! Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel is free to moved forward and back. Then when I have it where I want it, I tighten the bottom nut down. Then I use the second nut as a jam nut to hold the first nut in place. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any > circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket > steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the > telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn > function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or > deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rick Hyatt | President > > [image: cid:image003.jpg at 01D0A900.B6A56090] 540.257.0864 > > [image: Atmosphere blue logo 2] > > [image: *] rick at atmospherebuilders.com > > [image: *] www.atmospherebuilders.com > > PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 > > 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The telescoping feature is interesting but like you indicate just finding the comfortable distance for the normal driver will be fine. Rick From: Jay Laifman Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:33 PM To: rick at atmospherebuilders.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels I did make a Motolita work on my Alpine. There is an extender at the end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column. This extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens to allow the telescoping to work. I took off the extender and replaced it with two nuts. To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn button, and use to wrenches. But to be honest, I haven't moved it again since I did that - and I really don't let anyone else drive it. If they did, and they didn't like where I want it, tough! Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel is free to moved forward and back. Then when I have it where I want it, I tighten the bottom nut down. Then I use the second nut as a jam nut to hold the first nut in place. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers > wrote: Hi All, My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. Thanks. Best Regards, Rick Hyatt | President 540.257.0864 rick at atmospherebuilders.com www.atmospherebuilders.com PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 673 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2506 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The stock wheel is pretty, though! -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hyatt via Tigers To: 'Jay Laifman' Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 6:37 am Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels #yiv3279233489 #yiv3279233489 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} #yiv3279233489 #yiv3279233489 p.yiv3279233489MsoNormal, #yiv3279233489 li.yiv3279233489MsoNormal, #yiv3279233489 div.yiv3279233489MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv3279233489 a:link, #yiv3279233489 span.yiv3279233489MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv3279233489 span.yiv3279233489EmailStyle18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv3279233489 .yiv3279233489MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {} #yiv3279233489 div.yiv3279233489WordSection1 {} #yiv3279233489 Hi Jay, Thanks that makes sense. The telescoping feature is interesting but like you indicate just finding the comfortable distance for the normal driver will be fine. Rick ? ? ? From: Jay Laifman Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:33 PM To: rick at atmospherebuilders.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels ? I did make a Motolita work on my Alpine.? There is an extender at the end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column.? This extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens to allow the telescoping to work.? I took off the extender and replaced it with two nuts.? To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn button, and use to wrenches.? But to be honest, I haven't moved it again since I did that - and I really don't let anyone else drive it.? If they did, and they didn't like where I want it, tough! ? Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel is free to moved forward and back.? Then when I have it where I want it, I tighten the bottom nut down.? Then I use the second nut as a jam nut to hold the first nut in place. ? On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers wrote: Hi All, My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. Thanks. ? Best Regards, ? ? 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But it reaches that point over several seconds in lurches as if the indicator hangs up temporarily. I'm curious whether that is normal (or at least common) or whether it indicates a fault? Since this happens even with a full tank of fuel (the tank sender already at the limit of its travel) it would seem the cause is in the gauge. As the tank empties during driving the gauge always performs normally without any apparent hitches. Besides the possibility of mechanical binding, I was wondering whether our Jaeger analog instruments ever benefit from lubrication or is it intended that the movements remain dry for their lifetimes? ThanksTerry Packer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Since this happens even with a full tank of fuel (the tank sender already at the limit of its travel) it would seem the cause is in the gauge. As the tank empties during driving the gauge always performs normally without any apparent hitches. > > Besides the possibility of mechanical binding, I was wondering whether our Jaeger analog instruments ever benefit from lubrication or is it intended that the movements remain dry for their lifetimes? > > Thanks > Terry Packer > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm taking the axle back out of the car and taking it to a axle shop to get their opinion. If I need a new hub I'm wondering if anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub. I see that SS has axles but not hubs. Anybody know where I can get one if I need it? Or has anybody successfully straightened one out? Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Thu Jan 23 15:48:40 2020 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 22:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <542768188.10881290.1579819720951@mail.yahoo.com> HiJoe, If its only .007 out of true, remove the studs and have a machinist turn the face of the hub down until it is true, even .010 machined off will not effect the performance of the hub, Clyde -----Original Message----- From: tigers-request To: tigers Sent: Thu, Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 Send Tigers mailing list submissions to ??? tigers at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? tigers-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? tigers-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Bent Hub? (Joe Brown) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:07:04 -0600 From: Joe Brown To: Tigers Den Subject: [Tigers] Bent Hub? Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, As I slowly work through the world's slowest restoration I'm finally to the point where I can almost drive my Tiger.? I have it on jack stands and I've been fixing various little leaks here and there and the other day I fired it up and put it gear to make sure I had the clutch set up right.? With the rear wheels spinning I happened to look at the passenger side and saw a noticeable wobble.? Many, many years ago when I bought the car from the original owner it had been in a rear end collision and I'm guessing that's when the passenger side of the axle got messed up. The brake drum was very hard to get off and the lugs don't look very good. I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it is bent in by one of the lugs about .007".? I'm taking the axle back out of the car and taking it to a axle shop to get their opinion.? If I need a new hub I'm wondering if anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub.? I see that SS has axles but not hubs. Anybody know where I can get one if I need it?? Or has anybody successfully straightened one out? Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The owner said he has worked on Tigers before and thought they were great. A younger guy in the shop said "a what". On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 4:49 PM clyde mclaughlin via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > HiJoe, If its only .007 out of true, remove the studs and have a machinist > turn the face of the hub down until it is true, even .010 machined off will > not effect the performance of the hub, Clyde > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-request > To: tigers > Sent: Thu, Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm > Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bent Hub? (Joe Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:07:04 -0600 > From: Joe Brown > To: Tigers Den > Subject: [Tigers] Bent Hub? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, > > As I slowly work through the world's slowest restoration I'm finally to the > point where I can almost drive my Tiger. I have it on jack stands and I've > been fixing various little leaks here and there and the other day I fired > it up and put it gear to make sure I had the clutch set up right. With the > rear wheels spinning I happened to look at the passenger side and saw a > noticeable wobble. Many, many years ago when I bought the car from the > original owner it had been in a rear end collision and I'm guessing that's > when the passenger side of the axle got messed up. > > The brake drum was very hard to get off and the lugs don't look very good. > I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it is bent in by one of the > lugs about .007". I'm taking the axle back out of the car and taking it to > a axle shop to get their opinion. If I need a new hub I'm wondering if > anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub. I see that SS has axles > but not hubs. > > Anybody know where I can get one if I need it? 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