[Tigers] Rack filling

Gary garywinblad at comcast.net
Tue Aug 25 15:46:40 MDT 2020 

Reading this thread reminded me... years ago I had to fill my rack in 
the car.
My old brain forgets the details but I do remember I jacked the car up 
on the passenger side.
I think I removed the little plate on the front passenger side of the 
rack (covers the hole that the
piston and spring go in on the drivers side).   I must have poured the 
oil in there. I do remember
I had to work the rack left and right to get the thick oil to distribute 
to the drivers side.

I think I had to change the rack boots(bellows) because the ones SS 
supplied me were REALLY thin
and cheap and leaked.

Putting the oil in that way was easier than pulling the radiator and 
then the rack and fill it out of
the car...  which is much preferred.
Gary

On 8/25/2020 10:14 AM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote:
>
> The amount to fill the rack is in the shop manual. Should you desire 
> to drain the rack take off one wheel lower that side of the car as 
> much as possible.
> On the other side raise it as much as possible then break the lower 
> zip tie or clamp on the  rack bellows. Allow enough time for the old 
> oil to dribble out into a shallow pan possibly one of those old 
> aluminum ones or non stick ones that your wife threw out like mine 
> did..  Next AM replace tie remove high side outboard tie If you didn't 
> do it already to make it drain faster.
> And refill. Replace ties put wheels back on and you're done.
>
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> From: Tom Witt <atwittsend at verizon.net <mailto:atwittsend at verizon.net>>
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> I believe Kirk's "big hypodermic needle" was the means by which he he
> filled his rack and not necessarily the volume of oil -?? if that is what
> was meant by, "more than that."
>
> I took a tire fill valve, the metal kind that thread?? into place,
> removed the Schrader valve and drilling a tight fit hole at the
> upper/outer pleat on one side of the boot (see image). Removing the cap
> and attaching the oil containers tapered nozzle becomes a means to fill
> the rack. They mystery is what volume to replace??? The rack is not
> meant to be completely filled and there is no dip stick.
>
> A couple more thoughts. My Tiger has been stationary, on jackstands for
> 20+ years now. I'm 50 miles out of LA and the car doesn't see smog or
> sunlight. Regardless the condition of my circa 2000 purchased rubber
> parts (or parts with rubber) are absolutely dismal. I have OEM rubber
> parts on other cars that are 40-60 years old and still functional. Yet
> the deterioration of my "new" Tiger parts started in as little as 2-3
> years (the lower ball joint rubber). I'm not sure if that is a general
> complaint or a warning to check your (relatively new) parts. Perhaps both.
>
> On 8/24/2020 8:32 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
> > I find that the MG Midget rack that I use requires 8 oz. of oil.?? I
> > thought the Tiger rack was much more than that.
> >
> > In a message dated 8/24/2020 9:13:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > twotigers at verizon.net <mailto:twotigers at verizon.net> writes:
> >
> > I watched my rack bellows as I turned the wheel lock to lock- found
> > the section of the bellow that flexed the least, poked a tiny hole
> > through the top of that bellow, filled the rack with a big hypodermic
> > needle, then put a spot of butyl rubber on the pin hole. It???s been 20
> > years or so, and it???s never leaked and the rubber is still sealed
> > where I pricked it.?? Kirk
> >
> > *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net 
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> > I've filled a few racks?? over the years,but?? always with the rack off
> > the car. I'm thinking of trying with rack on the car this time. Anyone
> > have a foolproof method of doing this??? Mark L
> >
> > In a message dated 8/24/2020 6:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > Ditto's on the wanting something better than zip ties.
> > I have seen a similar to the sardine clamp for the vacuum booster on
> > Moss motors. It's close but no cigar. The stainless steel ones would
> > look almost too nice.
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> > Here are some options from McMaster Carr.?? The first one is one of
> > those squeeze bars types.?? The other is 5/16? wide, which seems to be
> > their most narrow.
> >
> > I know I?ve seen more narrow somewhere.
> >
> > 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/hose-clamps/constant-tension-spring-clamps-for-firm-hose-and-tube/
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> https://www.mcmaster.com/hose-clamps/clamp-type~worm-drive/band-width~5-16/
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> > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers
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> > Wanting something better than plastic zip ties to secure the boots I
> > ventures to the world of hose clamps. You are correct most are too
> > wide. I scoured through Pick Your Part and found certain BMW clamps
> > (left in image) from the 80's/90's to not only be narrow enough, but
> > also have a slight bevel on the edge. That said it was still a search
> > to find the clamp in an appropriate diameter. I used these on my Tiger
> > rack. I'd assume the midget rack boots are similar. Sorry I can't tell
> > you the year/model and location the clamps were used but hopefully it
> > helps with your search. Photo for comparison.
> >
> > <ichnfkdfppofgpgj.png>
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> > On 8/24/2020 6:42 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
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> > >
> >
> > > I have the MG Midget steering rack conversion.?? I need rubber
> > boots.?? Does it take the same as a standard Tiger??? Also, what are
> > good clamps that will work to secure??? Radiator clamps seem a little
> > too wide and tend to cut into the boot.?? ??Thanks, Mark L
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> > What size do you need? A PEX clamp, available at plumbing/home supply
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> >
> > Wanting something better than plastic zip ties to secure the boots I
> > ventures to the world of hose clamps. You are correct most are too
> > wide. I scoured through Pick Your Part and found certain BMW clamps
> > (left in image) from the 80's/90's to not only be narrow enough, but
> > also have a slight bevel on the edge. That said it was still a search
> > to find the clamp in an appropriate diameter. I used these on my Tiger
> > rack. I'd assume the midget rack boots are similar. Sorry I can't tell
> > you the year/model and location the clamps were used but hopefully it
> > helps with your search. Photo for comparison.
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> > On 8/24/2020 6:42 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
> >
> > I have the MG Midget steering rack conversion.?? I need rubber
> > boots.?? Does it take the same as a standard Tiger??? Also, what are
> > good clamps that will work to secure??? Radiator clamps seem a little
> > too wide and tend to cut into the boot.?? ??Thanks, Mark L
> >
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