[Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft

[Tom Witt]

I use pieces of thread threw the pan/gasket holes to hold the pan gasket 
in place. I just cut and pull them out as I install the bolts.

On 8/13/2020 7:51 AM, Dave Munroe via Tigers wrote:
> Rick, a frustrating problem. (Been there and done that.)
> I think you are getting pretty good advice on getting your dizzy 
> installed.
>
> Regarding your oil pan:
> I recently took the pan off my 289 block to replace the pan seals 
> with the engine in the car. Not too many problems getting it off, 
> (didn't have to remove the starter).
> Getting the thing back on the car with the pan seals in place was a 
> challenge. Getting the block half of the rear seal was tricky, as well 
> as keeping the halves in place on the pan while maneuvering it around 
> all the obstructions while laying on my back with everything almost at 
> nose height. I had the car on jacks that just barely gave me room to 
> get it done. A lift would have made it much easier. I finally put a 
> small dollop of silicone on the seals and let it dry, to hold them in 
> place. It worked quite well then.
> Also, follow the torque settings recommended for the pan bolts. 
> Apparently there is a tendency to tighten them too much, which 
> distorts the pan flange and leads to leaks. Mine had been over 
> tightened by the previous "mechanic" that had tightened them.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:18 AM Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net 
> <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net>> wrote:
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>     Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.
>     You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to
>     take out the starter and re-gasket it.
>     I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.
>     It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be
>     some drag though.
>     I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work.. put a
>     drill on it an see if you can spin it
>     to get oil pressure.  Drill needs to be on reverse.  You'll get
>     more resistance at speed.
>     Gary
>
>
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>     On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:
>>     A bit more diagnostic information
>>     - when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do
>>     not feel the retaining clip that should be present
>>     - Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top
>>     - There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem
>>     like the last person in there stuck the shaft into the
>>     distributor just to get it to seat)
>>     - I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there
>>     is zero resistance, not sure if that is normal?
>>
>>     I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the
>>     oil pump at the bottom end given there does not appear to be any
>>     retaining clip & it leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.
>>
>>     Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe
>>     I can do without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input
>>     on that) and do things properly.
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>>     On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net>> wrote:
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>>         Sometimes they are just difficult...
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>>         IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one
>>         side.  We
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>>         jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side
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>>         which made it more vertical...
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>>         Good luck,
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>>         Gary
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>>         On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via
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>>         Tigers wrote:
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>         In trying to replace the distributor after
>>>
>>>         changing my intake manifold on the ‘65 289 in my Tiger, I am
>>>
>>>         struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,
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>>>         which seems to be leaning over.
>>>
>>>
>>>         - tried jiggling the rotor
>>>
>>>
>>>         - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while
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>>>         applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing
>>>
>>>         both
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>>>
>>>         - tried using a long socket & extension to put
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>>>         the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations
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>>>         My next attempts will involve
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>>>         - having someone else push down while I turn the
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>>>         crap with a ratchet
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>>>         - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with
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>>>         a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil
>>>
>>>         pump shaft more centered
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>>>         Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words
>>>
>>>         of wisdom.
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>>>         Cheers in advance,
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>>>
>>>         Rick
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>>>         -- 
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>>>
>>>         rick
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