[Tigers] Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs

Jeffery Randall jefferyrandall at gmail.com
Wed Apr 24 16:48:22 MDT 2019 

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Iron beast via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Tony
> Is this what you need?
>
>
> https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a
> spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have
> knowledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?
> TIA... TonytheTiger
>
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>
>
> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎23‎, ‎2019‎ ‎12‎:‎55‎:‎02‎ ‎PM‎ ‎CDT, Ron Fraser
> via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your update – still good information.
>
>
>
> The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.
>
> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for
> straightness, rough edges and wear – repaired as required
>
> Keeping all the working parts parallel is important
>
> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer
> or shim keeps everything parallel then do that
>
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase
> the spring force – an extra washer or shim there would do the same
>
> Lube the working parts
>
>
>
> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure – I think I went
> through this procedure twice – 1st time to set everything in place then
> rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment
> procedure – I think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all was
> well
>
>
>
> Some linkage parts are available – C5ZZ-7285RPK – the parts that attach
> the shift rod to the shifter levers
>
> I’m thinking the kit you used had more parts.
>
> If there were any instructions – please share them with everyone.
>
>
>
> The gearshift lever has trunnion set – 2 steel plugs and 2 springs – I
> stretched these 2 springs
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
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> *From:* phastphill at aol.com <phastphill at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
> *To:* rfraser at bluefrog.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit
> either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think
> that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed
> the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes
> right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new
> bushings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can
> find the old box in the garage
>
> it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> To: phastphill <phastphill at aol.com>; Tigers <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>; rtscolgan <rtscolgan at yahoo.com>
>
>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
> Phastphill
>
>                 I looked through David Kee’s catalog and I do not see any
> linkage kits, I only see shifters.   May be I missed the parts you speak of.
>
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> Do you have a part # for the kit you used?
>
> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the
> kit you used?
>
> Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ron Fraser
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> *From:* phastphill at aol.com <phastphill at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
> *To:* Tigers at embarqmail.com; rfraser at bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net; rtscolgan at yahoo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra
> shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a
> stock toploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Tiger Server <tigers at autox.team.net>; Russ and Tammy C. <
> rtscolgan at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
> Russ,
>
>
>
> Ron is right.  I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.  I
> remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.
> Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.
> Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the
> problem will never completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
> --
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
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>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Russ
>
>                I believe I’ve been there and sometimes still happens.
>
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.   If you put it back into
> reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.   I found
> that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a
> forward gear which is no fun at all.
>
>
>
> I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.
>
>
>
> I’m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago,
> but here is a go at it.
>
> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out – cleaned it – inspected it -
> lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.
>
> I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.
>
> Assemble the shifter – check and adjust the shifter linkage as required.
>
>
>
> That worked for me – only once in a great while does the shifter hang up
> now.
>
>
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> Hope this helps with your problem
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Russ and
> Tammy C. via Tigers
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> After  my recent engine rebuild  I am having trouble with the tranny
> getting stuck in two gears.  Not good.  It occurs when trying to go forward
> after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I
> perhaps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the
> motor?  I didn't do anything to the tranny  when out of the car.  I did
> clean it up and repaint before re-entry.  It was suggested that  I cleaned
> it too good and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.  That did
> seem to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by
> putting it back into reverse.  That is the good news. I had to get under
> the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear.    The levers all
> line up where they should be under the shifter.  Fluid level is good.  Is
> the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?  Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.  Russ
> rtscolgan at yahoo.com
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