[Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger Wiki

[Ron Fraser]

                I have stated this before; we the owners of Tigers need to
write the history and I truly mean every owner; who better to do just that.

We have a very unique vehicle with running changes that are not clearly
listed anywhere; we need to document this.

 

I know it is a difficult task because previous owners make changes but we as
current owners can document each Tiger as purchased, document the changes we
make and then pass that along when the time comes.  Our Tigers are 50 +
years away from manufactured stock condition which makes totally stock
condition difficult to recognize and document but if we don't start now how
much information will be lost, forever.

 

This simply takes a combined effort from every owner.  I know some of this
seems extremely trivial to many but some of those trivial details are
exactly what is needed to see the full picture.

 

EX:  The Shop Manual list the Ford 260 engine @ 164 HP - Bob Mannel's Book
states that this is the HP # is for the early 260 engine only,  the Later
260 engine Ford did not publish the HP numbers.  The majority of 260 engines
sent to Rootes were the later 260 engine.   I have yet to find information
that states the HP numbers for the later 260 engine.

 


I fear too many people threw their original Tiger 260 engine away thinking
it was underpowered.

I believe the later 260 was close to the 289 HP numbers but Ford was
promoting the 289 as the engine in Ford's future.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Smit, Theo
via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 10:53 PM
To: J Clark <icanhandyman at yahoo.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger Wiki

 

Hi Jon,

The last time that it was attempted to bring the Tiger Wiki page in line
with what is commonly accepted as fact by marque experts, the "editors" who
did the earlier work to the page came out, reverted the edits, and let it be
known in no uncertain terms that they would not tolerate outsiders
besmirching the holy writ of the "reliable sources" they had established
through what they considered to be rigorous process. 

 

The basic problem is that Robson is "reliable source" simply because he has
published a lot of books. Independent research (such as me looking at my
Tiger and finding things that do not agree with their writing) is not
permitted in Wikipedia because it's not "verifiable" by searching other
in-print or otherwise published references. Books such as Norm Miller's,
being independently published and having a small total print run, carry
little or no weight in Wikipedia-land, regardless of the quality of the
underlying research.

 

If the earlier editors have abandoned wikipedia and it's now possible to
make edits, then that would be fantastic - but it would still have to be
very carefully done so that all parts of the Wiki page have an attribution
back to a book that, from the Wiki point of view, passes the "reliable
source" test.

 

Since I have taken part in this jousting match several times earlier I'd be
interested in seeing if progress can be made.

 

Theo 

 

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Tigers List
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Reply-To: J Clark <icanhandyman at yahoo.com <mailto:icanhandyman at yahoo.com> >
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM
To: Tigers List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger Wiki

 

To Rande Bellman,

The Wiki-"powers-that-be" have accorded the Sunbeam Tiger entry its much
coveted "Featured" status... so it must be accurate!

Seriously though, seeing how it is not "protected" (even semi), anyone is
free to make any and all improvements as they see fit. 

Ask me how I know. I.e., as "pragmath", I have made a change or two myself.

 

 
Regards,

 
Jon

P.S. Btw, one thing it's sorely lacking are images of Tigers in stock,
unadorned form. There is very little to choose from in in "Wikimedia".

Please, by all means, have at it. 

 

 

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