[Tigers] MkII VINs

Norman C. Miller rootes1 at earthlink.net
Sat Jul 16 10:36:54 MDT 2016


Wrong Ron,

I don't know how, but you misunderstood something 
I said.  No production 1966 model year Tiger left the factory with a 289.

Norm

At 06:59 AM 7/16/2016, Tod Brown via Tigers wrote:
>Hi Ron:
>
>Interesting. I had a conversation with Norm just 
>recently and he said just the opposite, that 
>there were a few cars that were built by Jensen 
>at the end of the MkIA run with all of the 
>changes that were incorporated on the MkII's 
>just to make sure it would all go together. 
>Those cars carried the MkIA badging. I made a 
>mistake in my description in my previous email 
>about the specific changes. I referred to a 
>Watts linkage rear setup. That was incorrect. I 
>meant to say Panhard rod, as that was the change 
>incorporated into the MkII's, as you know.
>
>I suggested to Norm that it would be a good idea 
>for him to publish what he knows about the MkII 
>changeover process, but have not heard anything 
>back from him. As you may know, as the editor of 
>Rootes Review, I ran an ad for the MkII 
>prototype, B382100002 LRXFE in the June issue 
>past. When I got the info about the car and the 
>request to run the ad, I was somewhat skeptical 
>since a lot of the MkII trim was missing, so I 
>contacted Norm. It was the result of our 
>resultant conversation that he mentioned the 
>MkIA's with the 289s. I was surprised when he 
>mentioned them because, like you, I had always 
>believed it to be a myth. However, the oracle 
>has spoken. If Norm is reading this, I would 
>urge him to weigh in to settle this.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Tod
>
>On 7/16/2016 8:39 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>>Tod
>>                I don’t 
>>believe any Mk 1A originally came with a 289 
>>engine.  I see no evidence of anything but the 
>>B19KC 260 engine group for the last production 
>>Mk 1A.  Norm Miller calls the 289 engine in Mk 
>>1As a myth.  It would be nice to have real 
>>evidence to confirm either position.
>>Â
>>My Original Tiger Engine Study does not contain 
>>specific information for the engines in the 
>>last dozen or so Mk 1As produced.  Owners lets change that.
>>Â
>>I will gladly accept and examine engine 
>>information for any original Tiger engine.  I 
>>have a worksheet that is easy to fill out – just ask for one.
>>Â
>>Ron Fraser
>>Â
>>From: Tigers 
>>[<mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] 
>>On Behalf Of Tod Brown via Tigers
>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:28 PM
>>To: <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>tigers at autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs
>>Â
>>Actually, there were two MkII's assembled by 
>>Rootes before production was turned
>>over to Jensen. They carry serial numbers 
>>B382100001 and B382100002 but no JAL
>>numbers. The Jensen run began with B382100100 and ended with ...633. See the
>>note in the SS Catalog:
>>MARK II PRODUCTION NUMBERS VARY. CARS WITH
>>SERIAL # B382100001
>>AND #B382100002 EXIST WITH NO JAL #’S (JENSEN ALPINE LTD. BODY #)
>>WHICH INDICATES THE CARS WERE COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED BY ROOTES,
>>NEVER GOING TO THE JENSEN PLANT AND MUST HAVE BEEN A PRE-
>>PRODUCTION PILOT CARS. THE NEXT MK II IS B382100
>>100 WHICH CARRIES
>>A JAL NUMBER, THE FIRST OF THE MK II SERIES.
>>There were also six (IIRC) MkIA's fitted with 
>>the MkII mechanicals (289 block, wide-
>>ratio trans, modified Watts linkage, etc.) but 
>>were badged as MkIA's at the end of
>>the MkIA run at Jensen.
>>
>>Tod Brown
>>B382002384LRXFE
>>TAC 864
>
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