[Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

Sat Jun 20 14:54:56 MDT 2015

Mike

All opinions are welcome here.

I personally think the 260 engine is an excellent engine for the Tiger.

I'm not sure that a 302 crank in a 260 block needs to be notch but I have no
experience with that.

245 hp would be gross hp as was the norm for reporting engine hp in the
60's.

I have a listing for a 1963 - 260/ 260hp engine - dual 4 bbl - 12 to 1
compression ratio and it looks like it has Cobra or LAT 27 style tri Y
headers.

Didn't Doan Spenser have a 14 to 1 compression 260 that produced over 300 hp
with gobs of torque?

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
mwood24020--- via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:25 PM
To: mwood24020 at aol.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

Oops...that was supposed to be for Allan. I guess all know how I feel about
this topic, now LOL

-----Original Message-----
From: mwood24020 <mwood24020 at aol.com>
To: tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

 Allan, to be honest, I can't imagine one reason to run a 260 based engine
in a Tiger, except if the goal is winning concours. The idea of running a
stroker 260 (even if only 302 crank) makes even less sense, as the lower end
of the block needs to be machined/notched and you still end up with not much
capability.

The "245hp" 260 might have been a gross number, on a good day, with a
tailwind...an honest 245hp from a 260 is likely going to need somewhere in
the 6500rpm range to happen, with correlative loss of power under the curve.
:)

Just my two cents, but not really wanting to stir this pot-
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
To: tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>; Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

Hello listers,

I'm one of those folks who appreciates originality. 

I wanted my Tiger's 260 to meet the originality test while meeting my power
demands.

Alas, I didn't have the savvy to make that happen.

For cruising, a stock 260 isn't a bad choice but for performance...cubes
mater.

So my stock engine went onto a stand and was replaced with a 5 bolt 289
amended with a
302 rotating assembly... a 5 bolt 302 so to speak, making an acceptable 263
RWHP and comparable torque.

Visually, few people question the difference although the aluminum heads do
spark questions.

I remain interested in the 260 engine - especially the 245 horsepower
version advertised in period Tiger literature.

Allan Ballard
Atlanta, Georgia 

On 6/19/15 9:46 PM, Scott Hutchinson via Tigers wrote:

In many ways it's the most fun part of it. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright at yahoo.com>
wrote:

Scott,
That's funny and all to true with car projects. My car started as a restore
to stock project with a few reliability/safety upgrades. Next thing you
know, it's a full on resto-mod from Dale A with a one of a kind suspension
and other over the top upgrades. None of it makes sense after the fact, but
when it's happening, each step seems like a small change of plan.

Stephen Waybright

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From: Scott Hutchinson via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
To: Tom Witt <atwittsend at verizon.net> 
Cc: "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

In my case it was mission creep. 

Needed a throw out bearing.  Pulled engine.

Thought maybe a new clutch.  

Then,  valve guides would be a good idea since there is no more lead. Screw
in studs are a great way to strengthen the top end. 

At work a good friend wiped a cam on a 69 Camaro, so I thought a roller
would be good.  

Gee that f4b on eBay looks nice.....

I'm sure my story is unique....

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:
> 
> I've notice over the years a desire for many to build (up) a 260 engine in
the quest for more power. While I can grasp the desire to keep an original
car - original, it seems the 260 no longer remains original with the
modifications applied. So, I ask with nothing more than curiosity (no
condemnation) why the pursuit?  Is it the mentioned desire for originality
(at least to the block/heads that came in the car)? Is it simply the quest
for the most power out of a 260 (only)? Or???
> 
> The reason I ask is that my overly practical, frugal nature sees a well
chosen, $150 junk yard roller cam 302 as producing a similar power result
for significantly less cost.  Now, I do have a 63 Rambler with an abysmal 6
cylinder motor (cast-in intake trough). And, yes, I've wonder just what can
be gotten out of that with modifications. But actually doing it goes against
my practical/frugal nature.
> 
> Anyway, just curious as to why the 260 over a 302 build if power is the
desired result. Especially with the parts scarcity and additional costs. 
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