[Tigers] Tiger Torque Arms

[genepadgett at comcast.net]

Curtis, 

Interesting experience and feedback, thanks for sharing.. 

What was the damage to the mounting locations? 
When you say they limit the spring travel and bind, did you experiment with how close to the top of the spring the bar across it was set? I am puzzled by your experience since it seems to me that the bell crank mechanism would allow the spring to flex up as a whole if the axle was not trying to rotate. What am I missing in my understanding? 

Thanks, 

Gene 

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My Tiger had the Caltrac and Comp TA-R1 and nothing bit harder. 
Absolutely no wheel hop. No braking issues at all. 
The ride was very very harsh. The Caltrac limits the spring travel and binds. 
It is also very hard on the mounting locations which I had to reinforce 
after they failed. The torque arm is a better long term solution. 
Curtis 

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Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 8:11:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Torque Arms 

This is a great topic. I would like to add: Has anyone put a 
Caltrac system on a Tiger? 
A comparison of these 2 systems could be very interesting. I have no 
experience with either system and would like to learn more. 

Ron Fraser 

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:40 PM 
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Torque Arms 


Mike, 

I was very interested to read your comments about the effect of the torque 
arm on braking. Everyone seems pretty positive about its ability to 
eliminate wheel hop on heavy acceleration, but no one else has mentioned 
breaking effects. 

I am a bit surprised that it seemed to adversely affect braking in the car 
you drove. At least as Dan's is designed, it would seem to resist axle 
rotation in both acceleration and braking circumstances. Any idea if the 
torque arm in car you were autocrossing was one that Dan had built? 

Fellow Listers, 

Anyone else have experiences about how their torque arm affects hard braking 
to share? 

Thanks, Gene 

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To: "Theo Smit" <Theo.Smit at dynastream.com>, tigers at autox.team.net, 
spmdr at juno.com 
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 7:20:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Torque Arms 

I wonder about the trade offs in braking with the torque arm in our 
application? 

Seems that using the right leaf spring design could save weight, time and 
$$, if preventing axle wind up is the primary objective. But, my direct 
Tiger experience is limited to stock leafs w/an extra primary and bolt-on 
Traction Masters...very old school. My experience with torque arms is 
limited to 
autocross laps in Tigers so fitted and my impression was good forward 
bite, pretty poor braking, particularly in trail. 

This is a great topic, however, as I am contemplating changes in the rear 
suspension, prior to finishing my car! 
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