From charlesengland at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun  1 15:49:27 2011
From: charlesengland at sbcglobal.net (Charles England)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:49:27 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3
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Please unsubscribe me - I have sold the Tiger - could not solve vapor
lock

Charlie England
www.dariencollectorscarshow.com  
Father's Day, June 19, 2011
Tilley Pond Park
 

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:20:16 EDT
From: Rollright at aol.com
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] (no subject)
Message-ID: <19199a.33e71dcd.3b16a780 at aol.com>
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Hello,
 
Many thanks to friends Theo and Jim for their help with my tach
project.
 
BTW: Jim you've held my hand through this whole project. 
 
As with so many projects, they wouldn't be possible without this  list.
 
Lurkers....contribute!
 
Best regards,
 
 
Jim  Armstrong
Mk 1A LRXFE
382002083 (86)


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:36:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: CoolVT at aol.com
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Replacement Servo
Message-ID: <3de3b.9702364.3b16ab66 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I noticed that Victoria British has a 5" Lockheed  replacement servo for

$239. That seems to be a fairly good price.  Has  anyone had experience
with  
this model?
Thanks,
Mark


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:49:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: TIGEROOTES at aol.com
To: wwwdg at webtv.net, tigers at autox.team.net, alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam TV sighting / Adam-12
Message-ID: <30665.3eed88eb.3b16ae4a at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

David,
 
That's why I wrote Sunbeam sighting instead of Tiger sighting.  I only
got 
a glimpse of it.  Do you think the color is gold or something  else?
 
Jim


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:56:30 GMT
From: David or Gary Franchi <wwwdg at webtv.net>
To: TIGEROOTES at aol.com, tigers at autox.team.net, alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam TV sighting / Adam-12
Message-ID: <BAY148-ds5AF39CF297ABEB46FBA4FAD7D0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Looks like Orchid Green to me.
David


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To: wwwdg at webtv.net, tigers at autox.team.net, alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: Sunbeam TV sighting / Adam-12

David,
 
That's why I wrote Sunbeam sighting instead of Tiger sighting.  I only
got 
a glimpse of it.  Do you think the color is gold or something  else?
 
Jim


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From Rollright at aol.com  Thu Jun  2 12:26:12 2011
From: Rollright at aol.com (Rollright at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:26:12 EDT
Subject: [Tigers] vapor lock
Message-ID: <eb1c.28e705.3b192fc4@aol.com>

What a pity..........   Seems like such a small problem.
 
Jim Armstrong   

 

From: "Charles England"  <charlesengland at sbcglobal.net>
To:  <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3,  Issue 3
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Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Please unsubscribe me - I have sold the Tiger - could  not solve vapor
lock

Charlie  England
www.dariencollectorscarshow.com  
Father's Day, June 19,  2011
Tilley Pond Park


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2. Replacement Servo  (CoolVT at aol.com)
3. Sunbeam TV sighting / Adam-12  (TIGEROOTES at aol.com)
4. Re: Sunbeam TV sighting / Adam-12 (David  or Gary  Franchi)


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Message:  1
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:20:16 EDT
From: Rollright at aol.com
To:  tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] (no subject)
Message-ID:  <19199a.33e71dcd.3b16a780 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Hello,

Many thanks to friends Theo and Jim for  their help with my tach
project.

BTW: Jim you've held my hand through  this whole project. 

As with so many projects, they wouldn't be possible  without this  list.

Lurkers....contribute!

Best  regards,


Jim  Armstrong
Mk 1A LRXFE
382002083  (86)


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Message: 2
Date: Tue,  31 May 2011 16:36:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: CoolVT at aol.com
To:  tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Replacement Servo
Message-ID:  <3de3b.9702364.3b16ab66 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

I noticed that Victoria British has a 5"  Lockheed  replacement servo for

$239. That seems to be a fairly good  price.  Has  anyone had experience
with  
this  model?
Thanks,
Mark


------------------------------

Message:  3
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:49:14 -0400 (EDT)
From:  TIGEROOTES at aol.com
To: wwwdg at webtv.net, tigers at autox.team.net,  alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam TV sighting /  Adam-12
Message-ID: <30665.3eed88eb.3b16ae4a at aol.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

David,

That's why I wrote Sunbeam  sighting instead of Tiger sighting.  I only
got 
a glimpse of  it.  Do you think the color is gold or something   else?

Jim


------------------------------

Message:  4
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:56:30 GMT
From: David or Gary Franchi  <wwwdg at webtv.net>
To: TIGEROOTES at aol.com, tigers at autox.team.net,  alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam TV sighting /  Adam-12
Message-ID:  <BAY148-ds5AF39CF297ABEB46FBA4FAD7D0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Looks like Orchid Green to  me.
David


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From:  TIGEROOTES at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:49 PM
To:  wwwdg at webtv.net, tigers at autox.team.net, alpines at autox.team.net
Subject:  Sunbeam TV sighting / Adam-12

David,

That's why I wrote Sunbeam  sighting instead of Tiger sighting.  I only
got 
a glimpse of  it.  Do you think the color is gold or something   else?

Jim


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From sganz at pacbell.net  Thu Jun  2 19:07:45 2011
From: sganz at pacbell.net (Sandy Ganz)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] NON-TIGER - Mustang at Willow Springs Video
Message-ID: <591557.41332.qm@web82808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

1965 Mustang Fastback at the Streets of Willow 05/28/2011 Parked next to Dan 
Walters and was an excellent time, Rick Mueller was also in attendance with his 
Tiger as well as the Sebring Alpine, I think it was mention it was Steve 
Acalla's (sp) real one but not totally sure on that. All in all a great weekend 
with only minor damage ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpDdtRWKUZY

Enjoy

Sandy

From stubrennan at comcast.net  Thu Jun  2 19:38:48 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:38:48 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
Message-ID: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>

It was a hot day, no breeze, I just got home in the Tiger, and let it
idle in the yard a couple minutes while I got something out of the
garage.  I was also interested is seeing if my new horn block off plates
made a difference with the temperature rise (maybe a bit).  But before
the temp got too high, I heard the fuel pump (a Facet type) start
clattering away, a sure sign of vapor lock.
 
So, being an engineer, I wondered what could be done about this.
Relocating the pump to the spare tire well (its now in the stock 1A
location) might help.  
 
But what could I use to cool it in its stock location?  Suddenly I
thought of an answer.  Fuel!   
 
At idle the fuel flow is extremely slow, giving it plenty of time to
heat up in the pump and the lines.  But if it was flowing faster...  Has
anyone ever considered putting a "T" in the fuel line up near the engine
and adding a solenoid valve and a return line to the tanks?  Then if
vapor lock was detected or expected, the fuel flow could be increased
with no loss, continually cooling the pump and lines with much cooler
fuel from the tanks.
 
Crazy idea?  Any other thoughts?
 
Stu

From sosnaenergyconsulting at cox.net  Thu Jun  2 20:51:21 2011
From: sosnaenergyconsulting at cox.net (David Sosna)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:51:21 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
In-Reply-To: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>
References: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <4DE84C29.2080207@cox.net>

Hey, Stu:
Sounds like you're halfway to a fuel injection system.
:-)

Best Regards
David Sosna
Tigerless in San Diego ('97 Miata)

On 6/2/2011 6:38 PM, Stu Brennan wrote:
> It was a hot day, no breeze, I just got home in the Tiger, and let it
> idle in the yard a couple minutes while I got something out of the
> garage.  I was also interested is seeing if my new horn block off plates
> made a difference with the temperature rise (maybe a bit).  But before
> the temp got too high, I heard the fuel pump (a Facet type) start
> clattering away, a sure sign of vapor lock.
>
> So, being an engineer, I wondered what could be done about this.
> Relocating the pump to the spare tire well (its now in the stock 1A
> location) might help.
>
> But what could I use to cool it in its stock location?  Suddenly I
> thought of an answer.  Fuel!
>
> At idle the fuel flow is extremely slow, giving it plenty of time to
> heat up in the pump and the lines.  But if it was flowing faster...  Has
> anyone ever considered putting a "T" in the fuel line up near the engine
> and adding a solenoid valve and a return line to the tanks?  Then if
> vapor lock was detected or expected, the fuel flow could be increased
> with no loss, continually cooling the pump and lines with much cooler
> fuel from the tanks.
>
> Crazy idea?  Any other thoughts?
>
> Stu
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Thu Jun  2 21:05:43 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:05:43 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
In-Reply-To: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>
References: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <4DE84F87.6050805@mayfco.com>

Interesting. Have owned my MK I (not MKIA) for a long long time and 
never had a vapor lock. Had the pump quit a time or two and prompt 
whapping it with a small hammer like object would start it going again 
until I could get to a replacement part.  Vapor lock occurs between the 
pump and tank.  In the old mechanical pump system it was fairly common 
because the pump was generally higher than the tank outlet and the pump 
had to lift the fuel with a small vacuum. This slightly lowed fuel feed 
pressure and hot gasoline would cause the fuel to tun to vapor. The pump 
would not pump the vapor and so the float bowls run dry.  Had to wait 
until the fuel cooled enough to return to a liquid and then a small 
amount of cranking usually filled the bowl and the car started.  Most 
electric pumps are put close to the tank and the fuel  has no heat 
source in that area to heat it up.  And the fuel has only a short 
distance to the pump so the pump is easily supplied.  The Facet pump is 
a continous duty type as I recall (I now have one on my car) and it runs 
all the time.  Not sure how that would affect the pump feed though. If 
the pump is getting fuel, t will pump fuel forward.  So, perhaps you 
have another issue?  Like perhaps the line to pump is undersized, or 
slightly plugged.   It would be interesting to see the fuel line temps 
when it is running and not pumping. Do you have a laser temp reader? Do 
that in a few places and see what is going on?

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/2/2011 6:38 PM, Stu Brennan wrote:
> It was a hot day, no breeze, I just got home in the Tiger, and let it
> idle in the yard a couple minutes while I got something out of the
> garage.  I was also interested is seeing if my new horn block off plates
> made a difference with the temperature rise (maybe a bit).  But before
> the temp got too high, I heard the fuel pump (a Facet type) start
> clattering away, a sure sign of vapor lock.
>
> So, being an engineer, I wondered what could be done about this.
> Relocating the pump to the spare tire well (its now in the stock 1A
> location) might help.
>
> But what could I use to cool it in its stock location?  Suddenly I
> thought of an answer.  Fuel!
>
> At idle the fuel flow is extremely slow, giving it plenty of time to
> heat up in the pump and the lines.  But if it was flowing faster...  Has
> anyone ever considered putting a "T" in the fuel line up near the engine
> and adding a solenoid valve and a return line to the tanks?  Then if
> vapor lock was detected or expected, the fuel flow could be increased
> with no loss, continually cooling the pump and lines with much cooler
> fuel from the tanks.
>
> Crazy idea?  Any other thoughts?
>
> Stu
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From danmacmedan at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  2 21:44:05 2011
From: danmacmedan at earthlink.net (Dan MacMedan)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:44:05 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] please unsubscribe me!!
Message-ID: <FE411097-0CEB-473C-9A3E-8DF87862EBE6@earthlink.net>

ASAP!!!

From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jun  2 21:53:40 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:53:40 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] please unsubscribe me!!
In-Reply-To: <FE411097-0CEB-473C-9A3E-8DF87862EBE6@earthlink.net>
References: <FE411097-0CEB-473C-9A3E-8DF87862EBE6@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4DE85AC4.9000900@bradakis.com>

Dan MacMedan wrote:
> ASAP!!!
>    


What, exactly, happened when you clicked on the 'unsubscribe' link
at the bottom of the message?


mjb.

From jteepen at usatoday.com  Thu Jun  2 22:12:59 2011
From: jteepen at usatoday.com (Teepen, Jere)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:12:59 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] NON-TIGER - Mustang at Willow Springs Video
In-Reply-To: <591557.41332.qm@web82808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <591557.41332.qm@web82808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E4CE827F20FD96468B9A6743B6E155447ACF63DA@ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com>

Sandy:

Nice video!

Regarding the Steve Alcala Sebring Alpine, yes it is one of the two (or was it
three?) original Sebring Alpines that raced there back in the early '60s.  It
went through a long and thorough restoration by Steve over the past nine
years.  It has been completed for about two years now.

Jere

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Sandy Ganz
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:08 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] NON-TIGER - Mustang at Willow Springs Video

1965 Mustang Fastback at the Streets of Willow 05/28/2011 Parked next to Dan
Walters and was an excellent time, Rick Mueller was also in attendance with
his
Tiger as well as the Sebring Alpine, I think it was mention it was Steve
Acalla's (sp) real one but not totally sure on that. All in all a great
weekend
with only minor damage ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpDdtRWKUZY

Enjoy

Sandy

From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 22:35:41 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:35:41 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] NON-TIGER - Mustang at Willow Springs Video
In-Reply-To: <E4CE827F20FD96468B9A6743B6E155447ACF63DA@ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com>
References: <591557.41332.qm@web82808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E4CE827F20FD96468B9A6743B6E155447ACF63DA@ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=e7m=8=_kVvY8z0s0VnY+v=fmJYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jerry,

Steves sebring alpine is the only running example of a factory car, and one
of only 2 ex-sebring alpines (the other a harrington) that is still running.
A thrid surviving Sebring alpine is still around awaiting resotration.

There were actually quite a few sebring alpines over the years, both factory
entered and factory supported. The seacrest green cars like steves ran in
1962, there were factory  wedgewood blue cars that ran in 1963, along with
the HSC alpine and theodoli harrington.

There is more info on these great cars on steve silversteins GREAT racing
alpines site.

http://www.racingalpines.org/home3.html

Nice video!

Regarding the Steve Alcala Sebring Alpine, yes it is one of the two (or was
it
three?) original Sebring Alpines that raced there back in the early '60s.
 It
went through a long and thorough restoration by Steve over the past nine
years.  It has been completed for about two years now.

Jere
-- 
Regards

Michael King

From arado7 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun  3 03:48:05 2011
From: arado7 at sbcglobal.net (arado7 at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
In-Reply-To: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <22283.96382.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

do what every body else does. put the pump in the gas tank and use a
regulator.   Gary Moore B9472283   survivor.
--- On Fri, 6/3/11, Stu Brennan <stubrennan at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Stu Brennan <stubrennan at comcast.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
To: Tigers at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 1:38 AM

It was a hot day, no breeze, I just got home in the Tiger, and let it
idle in the yard a couple minutes while I got something out of the
garage.  I was also interested is seeing if my new horn block off plates
made a difference with the temperature rise (maybe a bit).  But before
the temp got too high, I heard the fuel pump (a Facet type) start
clattering away, a sure sign of vapor lock.

So, being an engineer, I wondered what could be done about this.
Relocating the pump to the spare tire well (its now in the stock 1A
location) might help. 

But what could I use to cool it in its stock location?  Suddenly I
thought of an answer.  Fuel!   

At idle the fuel flow is extremely slow, giving it plenty of time to
heat up in the pump and the lines.  But if it was flowing faster...  Has
anyone ever considered putting a "T" in the fuel line up near the engine
and adding a solenoid valve and a return line to the tanks?  Then if
vapor lock was detected or expected, the fuel flow could be increased
with no loss, continually cooling the pump and lines with much cooler
fuel from the tanks.

Crazy idea?  Any other thoughts?

Stu
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From rmebstein at aol.com  Fri Jun  3 07:50:18 2011
From: rmebstein at aol.com (rmebstein at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:50:18 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Please Remove My Email From This List
In-Reply-To: <22283.96382.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CDF00C4F3394B2-1F6C-323F@webmail-m029.sysops.aol.com>

Please remove my email from the list. I unsubscribed a long time ago and all
of a sudden I'm receiving emails again from the list.

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Fri Jun  3 07:55:29 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:55:29 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
In-Reply-To: <4DE84F87.6050805@mayfco.com>
References: <000001cc218e$fd919170$6501a8c0@Brennan>
	<4DE84F87.6050805@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED528746@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

The fuel injection system I'm running has the pump in the spare tire well,
drawing from a filter/header tank arrangement, and the regulator is up on the
firewall, with a return line going back to the header tank. So there is
continuous circulation of fuel from the back of the car to the front, although
the volume of fuel being circulated is not that large.

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
> Sent: June 2, 2011 9:06 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
>
> Interesting. Have owned my MK I (not MKIA) for a long long time and
> never had a vapor lock. Had the pump quit a time or two and prompt
> whapping it with a small hammer like object would start it going again
> until I could get to a replacement part.  Vapor lock occurs between the
> pump and tank.  In the old mechanical pump system it was fairly common
> because the pump was generally higher than the tank outlet and the pump
> had to lift the fuel with a small vacuum. This slightly lowed fuel feed
> pressure and hot gasoline would cause the fuel to tun to vapor. The
> pump
> would not pump the vapor and so the float bowls run dry.  Had to wait
> until the fuel cooled enough to return to a liquid and then a small
> amount of cranking usually filled the bowl and the car started.  Most
> electric pumps are put close to the tank and the fuel  has no heat
> source in that area to heat it up.  And the fuel has only a short
> distance to the pump so the pump is easily supplied.  The Facet pump is
> a continous duty type as I recall (I now have one on my car) and it
> runs
> all the time.  Not sure how that would affect the pump feed though. If
> the pump is getting fuel, t will pump fuel forward.  So, perhaps you
> have another issue?  Like perhaps the line to pump is undersized, or
> slightly plugged.   It would be interesting to see the fuel line temps
> when it is running and not pumping. Do you have a laser temp reader? Do
> that in a few places and see what is going on?
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 6/2/2011 6:38 PM, Stu Brennan wrote:
> > It was a hot day, no breeze, I just got home in the Tiger, and let it
> > idle in the yard a couple minutes while I got something out of the
> > garage.  I was also interested is seeing if my new horn block off
> plates
> > made a difference with the temperature rise (maybe a bit).  But
> before
> > the temp got too high, I heard the fuel pump (a Facet type) start
> > clattering away, a sure sign of vapor lock.
> >
> > So, being an engineer, I wondered what could be done about this.
> > Relocating the pump to the spare tire well (its now in the stock 1A
> > location) might help.
> >
> > But what could I use to cool it in its stock location?  Suddenly I
> > thought of an answer.  Fuel!
> >
> > At idle the fuel flow is extremely slow, giving it plenty of time to
> > heat up in the pump and the lines.  But if it was flowing faster...
> Has
> > anyone ever considered putting a "T" in the fuel line up near the
> engine
> > and adding a solenoid valve and a return line to the tanks?  Then if
> > vapor lock was detected or expected, the fuel flow could be increased
> > with no loss, continually cooling the pump and lines with much cooler
> > fuel from the tanks.
> >
> > Crazy idea?  Any other thoughts?
> >
> > Stu
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From sunbeamtiger_65 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  3 10:15:48 2011
From: sunbeamtiger_65 at hotmail.com (Phil Stafford)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:15:48 -0400
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Same goes for me.

Thanks!

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Please remove my email from the list. I unsubscribed a long time ago and all
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From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Fri Jun  3 12:27:20 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:27:20 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] NON-TIGER - Mustang at Willow Springs Video
In-Reply-To: <591557.41332.qm@web82808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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That was fun to watch. Looks like it needs a "Watts Link", quite a bit of
movement between the body and rear end.

Jerry Christopherson
9473187

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Sandy Ganz
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:08 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] NON-TIGER - Mustang at Willow Springs Video

1965 Mustang Fastback at the Streets of Willow 05/28/2011 Parked next to Dan

Walters and was an excellent time, Rick Mueller was also in attendance with
his 
Tiger as well as the Sebring Alpine, I think it was mention it was Steve 
Acalla's (sp) real one but not totally sure on that. All in all a great
weekend 
with only minor damage ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpDdtRWKUZY

Enjoy

Sandy
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Fri Jun  3 12:59:40 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Please Remove My Email From This List
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folks, there was a serious server/software issue theat Mark had to 
contend with. I suspect it involved reloading some of the old 
information.  The simple fix is to stop jumping up and down, go to the 
bottom of the page and unsubscribe using the old password you used 
previously. See if that helps.

mayf

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>
> Thanks!
>
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From mai65tai at sonic.net  Fri Jun  3 13:11:42 2011
From: mai65tai at sonic.net (John Stithem)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:11:42 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 6
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: arado7 at sbcglobal.net
> To: Stu Brennan <stubrennan at comcast.net>
> Cc: "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speaking of Vapor Lock...
> Message-ID: <22283.96382.qm at web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> do what every body else does. put the pump in the gas tank and use a
> regulator.   Gary Moore B9472283   survivor.
> --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Stu Brennan <stubrennan at comcast.net> wrote:
>

I use a heat shield over the passenger side muffler. Keeps the fuel pump from
getting hot. Summit Racing makes them to fit a number of different size
mufflers.

John Stithem

From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Fri Jun  3 15:38:58 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:38:58 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FW: TAC in August
Message-ID: <640DE65DCBD745A6AD7B468CFC308642@jerry>

Rob Roy, has asked me to send this out again, didn't see it posted last time
I sent it out.

 

Jerry Christopherson

 

  _____  

From: Rob Roy [mailto:racetig at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 3:48 PM
To: Jerry Christopherson
Subject: TAC in August

 

JC,
 
The Tiger list was down for awhile and I never saw any info on the upcoming
TAC...  Would you be so kind as to remind the list that the session is set
for August 13, in Keller, Texas.  Anyone interested can contact me at
racetig at hotmail.com.  Currently there are three cars scheduled and possibly
a fourth.  Thanks!
 
Rob

From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Jun  3 19:54:16 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 19:54:16 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Please Remove My Email From This List
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Larry Mayfield wrote:
> folks, there was a serious server/software issue theat Mark had to 
> contend with. I suspect it involved reloading some of the old 
> information.  The simple fix is to stop jumping up and down, go to the 
> bottom of the page and unsubscribe using the old password you used 
> previously. See if that helps.
>

Unfortunately the mailman interface in the 'unsubscribe' may or may not
work for some folks.  Things are still messed up on the server.  When I get
back from California late next week my priority will be getting the Team.Net
services migrated to a much newer and robust server, lots of software 
upgrades
and such.  Until then, though, I can't really offer any real fixes.

Sorry, folks.

mjb.

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Fri Jun  3 21:28:00 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:28:00 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Please Remove My Email From This List
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	<4DE92F1C.6040904@mayfco.com> <4DE99048.1000509@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <4DE9A640.1090805@mayfco.com>

What can the guys who are getting mail do? They wont be able to 
unsubscribe using their old password?

Thanks, big guy, without you we would all be talking to the walls....

Keep up the good work...

Is the donation link active?

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204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/3/2011 6:54 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
> Larry Mayfield wrote:
>> folks, there was a serious server/software issue theat Mark had to 
>> contend with. I suspect it involved reloading some of the old 
>> information.  The simple fix is to stop jumping up and down, go to 
>> the bottom of the page and unsubscribe using the old password you 
>> used previously. See if that helps.
>>
>
> Unfortunately the mailman interface in the 'unsubscribe' may or may not
> work for some folks.  Things are still messed up on the server.  When 
> I get
> back from California late next week my priority will be getting the 
> Team.Net
> services migrated to a much newer and robust server, lots of software 
> upgrades
> and such.  Until then, though, I can't really offer any real fixes.
>
> Sorry, folks.
>
> mjb.
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From v8tracker at gmail.com  Sat Jun  4 00:13:40 2011
From: v8tracker at gmail.com (A. C. Tynes)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Please Remove My Email From This List
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Dr. Mayf et al,

Yes, the http://www.team.net/donate.html link is working.

A. C. Tynes
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-----Original Message-----
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What can the guys who are getting mail do? They wont be able to 
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Thanks, big guy, without you we would all be talking to the walls....

Keep up the good work...

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On 6/3/2011 6:54 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
> Larry Mayfield wrote:
>> folks, there was a serious server/software issue theat Mark had to 
>> contend with. I suspect it involved reloading some of the old 
>> information.  The simple fix is to stop jumping up and down, go to 
>> the bottom of the page and unsubscribe using the old password you 
>> used previously. See if that helps.
>>
>
> Unfortunately the mailman interface in the 'unsubscribe' may or may not
> work for some folks.  Things are still messed up on the server.  When 
> I get
> back from California late next week my priority will be getting the 
> Team.Net
> services migrated to a much newer and robust server, lots of software 
> upgrades
> and such.  Until then, though, I can't really offer any real fixes.
>
> Sorry, folks.
>
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From congodrc at gmail.com  Sun Jun  5 16:30:28 2011
From: congodrc at gmail.com (Rusty)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:30:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] alternator wiring
Message-ID: <0E7BBB2D-65EB-475D-8800-31BA5956BE5E@gmail.com>

Help,

I have a one wire alternator and need to wire in my 65 Tiger.  Can anyone
help?

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Sun Jun  5 18:30:02 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:30:02 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] 260 Motor questions.
Message-ID: <4DEC1F8A.1010908@mayfco.com>

If I can get the parts together, I want to assemble a full on race 260 
for the salt. Will be normally aspirated instead of turbocharged and 
EFI. Some of you folk have done a lot of research on things like heads. 
What aftermarket heads fit without needing to relieve the cylinder wall 
for the intake valve clearance.  I also want to find pistons with 
compression ratio that is is around 14 to 1.  I have a spare block, all 
I have to do is pick it up, I have a 289 hipo crank (yeah, I know they 
are all the same), hipo rods, my EFI intake manifold, a F303 ford cam,  
Hyd roller lifters, fuel injectors, push rods,  and a boss 302 oil pan.  
I can get another main girdle and windage tray fairly cheaply.   I will 
be running equivalent of C16 gasoline.  I will have to use a different 
trans though as the AOD in the car now is a 6 bolt bell housing version 
and the 260 is  bolt.  I have a C4 but I need to go out and count bolt 
holes...

So, recap, which heads work without cylinder relief and which company 
has high compression pistons

any thoughts?  serious request here...

mayf

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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Mon Jun  6 08:24:07 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:24:07 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
Message-ID: <000001cc2455$654bac60$6501a8c0@Brennan>

I saw this asked a few days back, but didn't see any replies.  Has
anyone used one of the Lockheed booster kist from VB, specifically the
7' since their catalog says that's the one for mine?  I just started a
brake rebuild on the Tiger, and was considering a Lockeeed instead of
the more expensive pro rebuilds of my original booster.
 
I've rebuilt the original twice myselg, but swore I'd never do it again
after the time that coathanger clip slipped and I had parts flying all
over the garage.
 
Stu

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Mon Jun  6 08:51:44 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:51:44 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] alternator wiring
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Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED52895E@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

Rusty,
How many connections does your 'one wire' alternator actually have? Including
the battery connection...

Theo



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From mmichels at socal.rr.com  Mon Jun  6 20:39:06 2011
From: mmichels at socal.rr.com (Mike Michels)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:39:06 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
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I have a Lockheed booster I bought from Sunbeam Specialties. I have never
been sure which size it is, since there isn't a measurement that clearly
corresponds to either 5 inch or 7 inch and no other ID. It works fine,
although I believe the boost ratio isn't as  high as the original Girling.
What info I have been able to find indicates that the Girling was 3:1 and
the Lockheeds are either 1.9:1 or 2.2:1. I wouldn't mind a bit more boost,
but it is reliable and an easy install. 

I would be interested if anybody else has info on boost ratios and how to
positively identify which booster I have. 

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Stu Brennan
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:24 AM
To: Tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB

I saw this asked a few days back, but didn't see any replies.  Has
anyone used one of the Lockheed booster kist from VB, specifically the
7' since their catalog says that's the one for mine?  I just started a
brake rebuild on the Tiger, and was considering a Lockeeed instead of
the more expensive pro rebuilds of my original booster.
 
I've rebuilt the original twice myselg, but swore I'd never do it again
after the time that coathanger clip slipped and I had parts flying all
over the garage.
 
Stu
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Jun  7 08:49:14 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 07:49:14 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Piston Hunt
Message-ID: <4DEE3A6A.5080609@mayfco.com>

Ok, all you hot rodder types...
I need some high compression ratio pistons.  Custom pistons are spendy 
to say the least.  So, I am seeking help from those of you who may know 
where I might find a set for a 260 with 3.8 inch standard bore.  Used 
and serviceable is OK! get out there and beat the bushes!  I want to 
make about 375 or more hp....

who had the article on the 260 hipo build?  send me the link again? I 
tossed it before I had gone down this 260 motor build.  Will be an El 
MIrage motor and perhaps Mojave mile motor...


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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Tue Jun  7 09:27:14 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:27:14 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Piston Hunt
In-Reply-To: <4DEE3A6A.5080609@mayfco.com>
References: <4DEE3A6A.5080609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED528BD0@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

Don't know how much re-engineering you want to do, but you can get
hypereutectic pistons for GM V6's in the right diameter:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Engines-Components/Make/OLDSMOB
ILE/Part-Type/Pistons/Brand/Keith-Black-KB-Pistons/Product-Line/Keith-Black-S
ilv-O-Lite-Hypereutectic-Pistons/?autoview=SKU&page=2

I'm sure that a bit of digging would get you forged pistons for the same
application but the price would go up. They (Wiseco, etc.) make flat-top
forged pistons for VW motors in 96.5mm, but they're expensive. Smaller
diameters are cheap.

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
> Sent: June 7, 2011 8:49 AM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Piston Hunt
>
> Ok, all you hot rodder types...
> I need some high compression ratio pistons.  Custom pistons are spendy
> to say the least.  So, I am seeking help from those of you who may know
> where I might find a set for a 260 with 3.8 inch standard bore.  Used
> and serviceable is OK! get out there and beat the bushes!  I want to
> make about 375 or more hp....
>
> who had the article on the 260 hipo build?  send me the link again? I
> tossed it before I had gone down this 260 motor build.  Will be an El
> MIrage motor and perhaps Mojave mile motor...
>
>
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From bobdixon at frii.com  Tue Jun  7 10:17:37 2011
From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:17:37 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Piston Hunt
In-Reply-To: <4DEE3A6A.5080609@mayfco.com>
References: <4DEE3A6A.5080609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <ca1b9113eafcf246133057eb24f38258@localhost>

I believe the Ford Pinto pistons used in some mini-stock race cars are
at least the same diameter.  Don't know about the other critical
dimensions.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 07:49:14 -0700, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>
wrote:
> Ok, all you hot rodder types...
> I need some high compression ratio pistons.  Custom pistons are
> spendy to say the least.  So, I am seeking help from those of you who
> may know where I might find a set for a 260 with 3.8 inch standard
> bore.  Used and serviceable is OK! get out there and beat the bushes! 
> I want to make about 375 or more hp....
> 
> who had the article on the 260 hipo build?  send me the link again? I
> tossed it before I had gone down this 260 motor build.  Will be an El
> MIrage motor and perhaps Mojave mile motor...

From milward at roadrunner.com  Tue Jun  7 12:42:27 2011
From: milward at roadrunner.com (Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:42:27 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed Brake Booster
Message-ID: <56DD14EC71664F8AAD33DA660AF382BB@BillPC>

I installed a Lockheed Brake Booster about 20 years ago and it still works
perfectly, easily locking the front wheels. I did not use a VB kit but
installed it easily myself. I used cushioned hose clamps on the tubular
firewall to front fender supports to hold the body. I then made a bracket to
fit between existing holes on the firewall and fender to hold the snout with
another cushioned clamp. As I recall I had to make up one new hydraulic line.
If anyone wants pix let me know or check it out at the Queen Mary.

Bill

From CoolVT at aol.com  Tue Jun  7 13:09:48 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:09:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed Brake Booster
Message-ID: <12670e.27e53576.3b1fd17c@aol.com>

Bill,
Do you remember if you used the 5" or the 7" ?  Someone has said that the 
5" doesn't give as much boost as the Girling  5".
 
And does anyone know if the MKll that used a 7" just  had more boost or was 
something changed such as the MC to  compensate?
Thanks,
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 6/7/2011 3:07:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
milward at roadrunner.com writes:

I  installed a Lockheed Brake Booster about 20 years ago and it still  works
perfectly, easily locking the front wheels. I did not use a VB kit  but
installed it easily myself. I used cushioned hose clamps on the  tubular
firewall to front fender supports to hold the body. I then made a  bracket 
to
fit between existing holes on the firewall and fender to hold  the snout 
with
another cushioned clamp. As I recall I had to make up one  new hydraulic 
line.
If anyone wants pix let me know or check it out at the  Queen  Mary.

Bill
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Wed Jun  8 08:02:21 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed servo
Message-ID: <3d4ee.5fbb2098.3b20daed@aol.com>

I've looked around and can't find the specs on the 5"  or 7" Lockheed 
servo. I spoke with one supplier and he just said the Lockheed is  the same as 
the Girling.  In other words, he didn't know.  Has anyone  found a  source for 
the info?
Mark

From todbrown at roadrunner.com  Wed Jun  8 10:55:00 2011
From: todbrown at roadrunner.com (Tod Brown)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:55:00 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed Servo
Message-ID: <4DEFA964.8010504@roadrunner.com>

Mark:

SS lists the Lockheed servo in their catalog.  Here is the description:

*REPLACEMENT SERVO* (MFG. BY LOCKHEED) FOR GIRLING 5" SERVO. REPLACES 
THE 5" & 7" SERVO FOR ALPINE S.IV AND S.V AS WELL AS THE 5" & 7" SERVO 
ON ALL TIGERS. THE APPEARANCE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE GIRLING UNITS AND 
REQUIRES THAT A MOUNTING BRACKET BE MADE.
	*HP43L* 	*345.00*


As noted, it is a replacement for both the 5" and 7" Girling servo.  I 
would call Rick and see if he has any additional information.

Tod
B382002384LRXFE

From garywinblad at comcast.net  Wed Jun  8 18:02:09 2011
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:02:09 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed Servo
In-Reply-To: <4DEFA964.8010504@roadrunner.com>
References: <4DEFA964.8010504@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <B6961085-408E-4EC6-900C-D0D6918D953C@comcast.net>

Some more info...
I had one of those servos in my Tiger for a short time about 15 years  
ago.
1.  I got it free and it was already adapted to the Tiger
2.  It gave me NO trouble
3.  Boost was about the same as stock 5inch
4.  It doesn't have a big vacuum canister so as soon as you
    Kill the engine,  boost is gone

What I did and I highly recommend is remove the servo and
Put in a 3/4in tandem master, it works really good.

Gary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Tod Brown <todbrown at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Mark:
>
> SS lists the Lockheed servo in their catalog.  Here is the  
> description:
>
> *REPLACEMENT SERVO* (MFG. BY LOCKHEED) FOR GIRLING 5" SERVO. REPLACES
> THE 5" & 7" SERVO FOR ALPINE S.IV AND S.V AS WELL AS THE 5" & 7" SERVO
> ON ALL TIGERS. THE APPEARANCE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE GIRLING UNITS AND
> REQUIRES THAT A MOUNTING BRACKET BE MADE.
>    *HP43L*    *345.00*
>
>
> As noted, it is a replacement for both the 5" and 7" Girling servo.  I
> would call Rick and see if he has any additional information.
>
> Tod
> B382002384LRXFE
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  9 01:00:52 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Rapier on BaT
Message-ID: <732031.66210.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/07/1959-sunbeam-rapier-mk2/
This link was from BringATrailer on Wed. NICE Rapier pictured at the bottom of Wed. email and the link has a pic and comments from non Beam peeps and a knowledgeable person of two. Hope the link works.
TtT

From awtiger at cox.net  Thu Jun  9 13:13:50 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:13:50 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Original fuel lines
Message-ID: <20110609151350.SYXT8.46850.imail@eastrmwml29>

Hey, guys:

At some point in time, the previous owner of my Tiger installed on of those old "solid-state" fuel pumps; the square univesal units that all the parts stores used to sell.  There is a possibility that I'm experiencing the failure of that pump and I want to change it out.  I have a new original-style pump in my parts stash and I'd like to put that on the car, but again at some point in the car's life, someone has hacked off the screw-on part of the original fuel lines that screw onto the original fuel pump.  

I know that my car can't be the only one that this has happened to.  What are you all doing for original-style screw-on fuel line ends to the fuel pump?  Will something off another car work?  I realize that I'll have to jumper what's left of the incoming and outgoing fuel lines with rubber fuel line at some point, but I would sure like to be able to screw some replacement lines onto my new fuel pump.  Any suggestions out there?

Thanks as always,

From mgman71 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  9 17:25:16 2011
From: mgman71 at comcast.net (George Re)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:25:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] HELP (BIG TROUBLE)
Message-ID: <59092062.1633936.1307661916975.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Hi: 
I am in trouble my car is almost done and now I found out some how my steering column is BENT the spline shaft that moves up and down got bent some how??? does anyone on the list know of anyone who has a parts car that I can buy there column if you do please let me know as I am now in a holding pattern 

Thanks in advance 
George Re 
845-671-9021 

From bobdixon at frii.com  Thu Jun  9 22:48:06 2011
From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:48:06 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Harrington LeMans Coupe on Bring a trailer
Message-ID: <8216591CF26747ACBD1F81AAB2F5FBD1@BobsDell>

Just saw this on Bring-a- trailer

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/09/1962-sunbeam-harringon-lemans-coupe/

From Rollright at aol.com  Fri Jun 10 16:46:43 2011
From: Rollright at aol.com (Rollright at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:46:43 EDT
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13
Message-ID: <47ad.15e97590.3b23f8d3@aol.com>

At $ 47,000, you shouldn't have to bring a trailer.........
 
Jim Armstrong   

 
In a message dated 6/10/2011 2:24:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tigers-request at autox.team.net writes:

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/09/1962-sunbeam-harringon-lemans-coupe/

From rspontelli at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 10 21:59:57 2011
From: rspontelli at earthlink.net (Ramon Spontelli)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:59:57 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
In-Reply-To: <mailman.22.1307383205.7824.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.22.1307383205.7824.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <570A90A8079F43FE9A669D53C9C0BBC2@XPDESKTOP>

I ordered the seven-inch booster for the Mk II last week and it came today.

It "looks" Lockheed, but the name on the unit and the "Fitting Instructions"
is Powertune.  It claims a boost ratio of 3.00:1.

It arrived with a busted plastic air filter assembly, so it will be going
back.

Ramon




------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:24:07 -0400
From: "Stu Brennan" <stubrennan at comcast.net>
To: <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
Message-ID: <000001cc2455$654bac60$6501a8c0 at Brennan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I saw this asked a few days back, but didn't see any replies.  Has
anyone used one of the Lockheed booster kist from VB, specifically the
7' since their catalog says that's the one for mine?  I just started a
brake rebuild on the Tiger, and was considering a Lockeeed instead of
the more expensive pro rebuilds of my original booster.
 
I've rebuilt the original twice myselg, but swore I'd never do it again
after the time that coathanger clip slipped and I had parts flying all
over the garage.
 
Stu


------------------------------

From todbrown at roadrunner.com  Wed Jun  1 16:19:00 2011
From: todbrown at roadrunner.com (Tod Brown)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:19:00 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Missing Posts
Message-ID: <4DE6BAD4.3070405@roadrunner.com>

I have not been receiving the daily digests from the list for a couple 
of weeks.  Can someone advise what I can do to rejoin?  When I tried to 
subscribe, I got an error message.

Tod
B382002384LRXFE

From genepadgett at comcast.net  Thu Jun  2 20:41:23 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:41:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Stock hub cap outside diameter
In-Reply-To: <1469575240.1421696.1307068517878.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <726915193.1421986.1307068883783.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hi John, not sure if you have gotten an answer yet on the stock hubcap outside
diameter.B B  I measure one of mine at exactly 9 .0 inches.

Gene

From CoolVT at aol.com  Sat Jun 11 16:22:15 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:22:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers for Sale/ Pentastar
Message-ID: <4580.2028338d.3b254497@aol.com>

Does anyone know how this email from me shows up  today?  It was sent about 
a month ago.
Mark 
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2011 6:20:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
CoolVT at aol.com writes:

Now I'm  going to be checking cars to see where in that  area they ended  
up.


In a message dated 5/12/2011 9:47:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,  
ross_hulse at sbcglobal.net writes:

A  factory memo  dated 1/66 gave a number of Pentastar badges and   
instructions
that all N.A.S. Vehicles will have a "Pentastar" badge  as  February 1st
fitted to the Lower Front Wing on the right hand  side  only.

Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse

The Tiger parts  list shows  the Pentastar (2239866) on page XF1, with no
notation. The  Alpine parts  list (page X2, 5th issue)  states "USA and  
Canada
only".

David  Franchi  
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From laurin212 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 11 17:57:05 2011
From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] sticky situation
Message-ID: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>


From danmacmedan at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 11 18:15:12 2011
From: danmacmedan at earthlink.net (Dan MacMedan)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:15:12 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] List up and running
Message-ID: <6B7CEBB9-DDD3-41BF-BA33-4D00183C52E8@earthlink.net>

Not only is the list up and running...it's running amok and sending emails to
people like me who don't want them. As many times as I've hit the unsubscribe
button, it just keeps sending. Tiger Spam is alive and well.

From danmacmedan at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 11 18:20:01 2011
From: danmacmedan at earthlink.net (Dan MacMedan)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:20:01 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] evidently...
Message-ID: <10C338CC-7757-4507-AA62-9306CF40A77E@earthlink.net>

...the Tigers list is only going out to people who hit the UNSUBSCRIBE button
because I DON"T want any emails and I'm getting flooded with

anybody out there??

Is the list still up?

Hellooooooo!!!

Seems awful quiet!!

ETC ETC...

From slaifman at socal.rr.com  Sat Jun 11 17:49:34 2011
From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:49:34 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Where is Everyone?
Message-ID: <4DF3FF0E.40109@socal.rr.com>

Tigers,

It seems to me that the Tiger List isn't getting much traffic.  The rate 
is something like 2-3 per day.

Or maybe a lot of us Tigers are on vacation, without a lap-top?

Is there anyone "Out There"?  I hear that the little green men are 
stealing our mail as a delicacy?

This is confirmed by the paucity of "Tiger Digest" listings, and the 
sudden reappearance of Ramon Spontelli, who was reported as abducted!

Steve
-- 



/Steve Laifman/

/Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* <http://www.tigersunited.com>

From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Jun 11 18:41:53 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:41:53 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Now THAT is odd
Message-ID: <4DF40B51.2050101@bradakis.com>

There have been some troubles with the Team.Net server and some of the
lists, like tigers.  But to get a big batch of mail suddenly showing up from
weeks ago is just a bit odd.

I love computers.

mjb.

From ross_hulse at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun 11 19:39:05 2011
From: ross_hulse at sbcglobal.net (Ross Hulse)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:39:05 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers for Sale/ Pentastar
In-Reply-To: <004e01cc110f$ac0174e0$04045ea0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <BAY148-ds217F3CCC66513C8A473427AD890@phx.gbl>
	<004e01cc110f$ac0174e0$04045ea0$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <00bf01cc28a1$8506e8d0$8f14ba70$@sbcglobal.net>

The memo was sent before the Pentastar was listed in the parts manuals.  The
memo follows.

MODELS: SUPER MINX IV ESTATE, MINX VI, ALPINE V, TIGER, IMP DELUXE. 

Design Instruction No. CB 2964 "PENTASTAR" BADGE FOR ALL N.A.S. MODELS

At the request of Management, it has been decided that all N.A.S.
Vehicles will have a "Pentastar" badge fitted to the Lower Front Wing on the
right hand side only.  These are to be fitted as from the 1st February.

Therefore Planning Departments at Ryton, Linwood and Jensens are requested
to arrange for suitable drill jigs to be made to drill holes to fit the
badges in the positions shown in the accompanying sketches. 
Provision is also to be made for a suitable sealing compound to be used
under the badge and around the fixing studs.  This is to be done to prevent
water seeping through the holes and causing rust stains.

Supply Department are requested to have sufficient quantities of the
Nylon fixing bushes 9132945 (Carr Fastener's number 78/269), "Pentastar"
badges, and Sealing Compound Expandite SR 51 Part. No. 2517444 (or in the
event of this not being readily available, the sealing compound used
currently for glazing operations my be employed.) at Linwood, Ryton and
Jensen's and the 4000 badges which are situated a Ryton at the present
moment, should be divided accordingly, in order that they may comply with
this request.

Inspection Departments at Linwood, Ryton and Jensen's are requested to
ensure that all Badges are fitted in line with sketches supplied.

These 4000 badges are to be fitted as a temporary measure until such time as
the Production badge and instruction drawings are issued.

Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse

____________________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________________
_______________

A factory memo dated 1/66 gave a number of Pentastar badges and instructions
that all N.A.S. Vehicles will have a "Pentastar" badge as February 1st
fitted to the Lower Front Wing on the right hand side only.

Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Tiger parts list shows the Pentastar (2239866) on page XF1, with no
notation. The Alpine parts list (page X2, 5th issue)  states "USA and Canada
only".

David Franchi
_______________________________________________

From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Sat Jun 11 20:49:07 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:49:07 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United Update
In-Reply-To: <49C7A4E9350A4E92B78D088012246217@BUCK>
References: <49C7A4E9350A4E92B78D088012246217@BUCK>
Message-ID: <A05B6A410636474F8E0FC4206DE4B462@BUCK>

Like many others, I'm at a loss how an email I tried to post to the list 
about a month ago shows up today.

Since I originally tried to send it we're now down to days before TU. It 
begins this coming Thursday.

We have 63 cars and 153 people already registered.

If you have any questions, give me a call

bt


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Buck Trippel" <BuckTrippel at Verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:55 AM
To: <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United Update

> This year's Tigers United is only a month away.
>
> The Queen is happy. The hotel is running out of rooms.
>
> CAT's happy because over 130 registrations have already arrived.
>
> Here's our VIP Guest list (in no particular order). Each of these have 
> already
> confirmed they will attend. They'll share their Tiger related experiences 
> from
> "back in the day":
> -  Cleo and Carroll Shelby
> -  Don Sesslar
> -  John Morton
> -  Ted Sutton
> -  Scooter Patrick
> -  Jim Marrietta
> -  Jack Balch
> -  Ron Dykes
>
> Plus there are a few others that still are on the fence.
>
> Details for the  event are on the CAT website
> http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/forumdisplay.php?f=34
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call.
>
> Buck
> (310) 545-2487
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>
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Sat Jun 11 23:51:25 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:51:25 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Where is Everyone?
In-Reply-To: <4DF3FF0E.40109@socal.rr.com>
References: <4DF3FF0E.40109@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4DF453DD.3010603@mayfco.com>

Well, I'm here. Just not much interested in most of the traffic though.  
So not much reurn mail from me.

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/11/2011 4:49 PM, Steve Laifman wrote:
> Tigers,
>
> It seems to me that the Tiger List isn't getting much traffic.  The rate
> is something like 2-3 per day.
>
> Or maybe a lot of us Tigers are on vacation, without a lap-top?
>
> Is there anyone "Out There"?  I hear that the little green men are
> stealing our mail as a delicacy?
>
> This is confirmed by the paucity of "Tiger Digest" listings, and the
> sudden reappearance of Ramon Spontelli, who was reported as abducted!
>
> Steve

From musta32188 at msn.com  Sun Jun 12 04:50:56 2011
From: musta32188 at msn.com (PHILLIP SILK)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:50:56 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Selling my Tiger
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W380EDDDA307944C2F482388B8E0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W380EDDDA307944C2F482388B8E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <COL109-W40F7E4C5F5EA9E4D2DF16F8B660@phx.gbl>

Thanks for all of the interest.  The Tiger has been sold.

Phillip

> From: musta32188 at msn.com
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:29:02 -0400
> Subject: [Tigers] Selling my Tiger
>
> Everyone:
>
> I have decided to sell my Tiger.  Before I put it up on Ebay, let me share
it
> with all of you to see if there is some interest.
>
> In short, it's a 1965, with what I believe are the original 260 engine and
> transmission.  I have owned the car for about five years; it was
disassembled
> when I bought it (and it still is).  It's midnight blue, and has a very
> straight body.  It is by no means perfect, and requires a full restoration.
> The previous owner had done some of the restoration about 15 years ago,
> painted it and then stopped.  I have noticed that the inner fenders have
rust,
> as does the front of the "frames" just to the rear of the engine
compartment,
> as well as other areas.  I think it is largely a solid car, but I have no
> doubt there is rust that lurks in places I haven't seen.  Therefore, I had
> planned to re-do the previous owner's work.
>
> The interior has surface rust, but looks remarkably solid, as does the
trunk.
>
> Importantly, it has one of Mike Hokanson's amazing front suspensions that's
> never been used other than to roll it into the garage: QA1 adjustable
> coilovers, adjustable control arms, Flaming River rack, and fox-body
Mustang
> rotors with Wilwood Dynalite calipers.  It has 14x6 and 14x7 Panasports,
with
> new BF Goodrich tires.
>
> I have the big parts: windshield, bumpers, hood, trunk, and most of the
small
> stuff, but I suspect things are missing.  There are very few interior parts
> with it, and those that are would need to be replaced.  The rear end will
> clearly need to be rebuilt, and the axles are just sitting in the housing,
but
> not secured.
>
> I am asking $14,000, including the Hokanson front suspension as well as the
> old suspension parts.
>
> It has not been TAC'd. It does have a valid Georgia title.  I will get into
> the garage this weekend and take some photos; email me if you're
interested.
> If you want me to take a picture of something in particular, just let me
know.
> I will answer all questions, and I will be candid--no rosy picture where
it's
> not warranted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phillip Silk
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From rnette7 at aol.com  Sun Jun 12 07:39:31 2011
From: rnette7 at aol.com (rnette7 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:39:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] change of emial address
Message-ID: <8CDF71D4B181FC1-448-76368@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>

Hey guys,
Can you please change my email address from:
rnette7 at aol.com
to
claibornearnette at yahoo.com
It driving my wife nuts!
Thanks
Claiborne Arnette

From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Sun Jun 12 08:56:54 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:56:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FW:  FW: Jerry - Please repost to Tiger blog
Message-ID: <BC34A586976C4D83B94B28F568D6F056@jerry>

Reposting for Rob Roy.

Jerry Christopherson


Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:53 PM
To: TIGERS at AUTOX.TEAM.NET
Subject: [Tigers] FW: Jerry - Please repost to Tiger blog

All,
 
A TAC session will be held in Keller, Texas on August 13, 2011.  The
required Senior and two junior inspectors will be available on this date
only.  Keller is located 15 miles north of downtown Fort Worth, Texas.
Specific location and directions will be provided once I receive responses
from those wishing to have their Tiger's inspected.  Please respond to
Racetig at hotmail.com to indicate your intent or answer any questions.  This
will be the only TAC session this year.  Please pass this along to other
Tiger owners who may not be members of this blog.
 
If your car has already been TAC'd, you are certainly welcome to attend and
meet other Tiger owners.  This initial announcement is to get an idea of how
many people/cars will be involved.  We look forward to seeing everyone.
 
Rob Roy
Inspector #54 - Senior
817-313-5427
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From mmichels at socal.rr.com  Sun Jun 12 11:46:28 2011
From: mmichels at socal.rr.com (Mike Michels)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:46:28 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
In-Reply-To: <570A90A8079F43FE9A669D53C9C0BBC2@XPDESKTOP>
References: <mailman.22.1307383205.7824.tigers@autox.team.net>
	<570A90A8079F43FE9A669D53C9C0BBC2@XPDESKTOP>
Message-ID: <001101cc2928$a8c73540$fa559fc0$@rr.com>

Ramon, did you order it from Victoria British? I understand that Delphi took
over much of the Lockheed lineup bout that the British AP brake company took
on the boosters, but haven't been able to verify boost ratios until your
note below. Havent heard of Powertune. 

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ramon Spontelli
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:00 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB

I ordered the seven-inch booster for the Mk II last week and it came today.

It "looks" Lockheed, but the name on the unit and the "Fitting Instructions"
is Powertune.  It claims a boost ratio of 3.00:1.

It arrived with a busted plastic air filter assembly, so it will be going
back.

Ramon




------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:24:07 -0400
From: "Stu Brennan" <stubrennan at comcast.net>
To: <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
Message-ID: <000001cc2455$654bac60$6501a8c0 at Brennan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I saw this asked a few days back, but didn't see any replies.  Has
anyone used one of the Lockheed booster kist from VB, specifically the
7' since their catalog says that's the one for mine?  I just started a
brake rebuild on the Tiger, and was considering a Lockeeed instead of
the more expensive pro rebuilds of my original booster.
 
I've rebuilt the original twice myselg, but swore I'd never do it again
after the time that coathanger clip slipped and I had parts flying all
over the garage.
 
Stu


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From laurin212 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 12 16:05:29 2011
From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:05:29 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Where is Everyone?
In-Reply-To: <4DF3FF0E.40109@socal.rr.com>
References: <4DF3FF0E.40109@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <B5045A1B-00F2-483C-B25E-88EC01B30ADA@yahoo.com>

i sent a question to the list yesterday, and i saw it come through today with
no msg body, something is wrong with the list



On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Steve Laifman wrote:

> Tigers,
>
> It seems to me that the Tiger List isn't getting much traffic.  The rate
> is something like 2-3 per day.
>
> Or maybe a lot of us Tigers are on vacation, without a lap-top?
>
> Is there anyone "Out There"?  I hear that the little green men are
> stealing our mail as a delicacy?
>
> This is confirmed by the paucity of "Tiger Digest" listings, and the
> sudden reappearance of Ramon Spontelli, who was reported as abducted!
>
> Steve
> --
>
>
>
> /Steve Laifman/
>
> /Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* <http://www.tigersunited.com>
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From laurin212 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 12 16:11:00 2011
From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:11:00 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
References: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>

resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with no
body attached)

> From: Peter Laurinaitis <laurin212 at yahoo.com>
> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
> To: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: sticky situation
>
> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch master
cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on another
tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with coolant.
on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air dry?
any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?  or
get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?

From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sun Jun 12 17:18:07 2011
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
In-Reply-To: <001101cc2928$a8c73540$fa559fc0$@rr.com>
References: <mailman.22.1307383205.7824.tigers@autox.team.net>
	<570A90A8079F43FE9A669D53C9C0BBC2@XPDESKTOP>
	<001101cc2928$a8c73540$fa559fc0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <58D0F0C0-ACBC-4C64-96DD-8502562FD293@comcast.net>

Google "powertune servo"...
You get lots of hits, AH, Lotus, MG , etc.
Seems to be an off shore cheap copy but will work if you get a good one.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:46 AM, "Mike Michels" <mmichels at socal.rr.com>  
wrote:

> Ramon, did you order it from Victoria British? I understand that  
> Delphi took
> over much of the Lockheed lineup bout that the British AP brake  
> company took
> on the boosters, but haven't been able to verify boost ratios until  
> your
> note below. Havent heard of Powertune.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- 
> bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Ramon Spontelli
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:00 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
>
> I ordered the seven-inch booster for the Mk II last week and it came  
> today.
>
> It "looks" Lockheed, but the name on the unit and the "Fitting  
> Instructions"
> is Powertune.  It claims a boost ratio of 3.00:1.
>
> It arrived with a busted plastic air filter assembly, so it will be  
> going
> back.
>
> Ramon
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:24:07 -0400
> From: "Stu Brennan" <stubrennan at comcast.net>
> To: <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] Lockeheed Booosters at VB
> Message-ID: <000001cc2455$654bac60$6501a8c0 at Brennan>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I saw this asked a few days back, but didn't see any replies.  Has
> anyone used one of the Lockheed booster kist from VB, specifically the
> 7' since their catalog says that's the one for mine?  I just started a
> brake rebuild on the Tiger, and was considering a Lockeeed instead of
> the more expensive pro rebuilds of my original booster.
>
> I've rebuilt the original twice myselg, but swore I'd never do it  
> again
> after the time that coathanger clip slipped and I had parts flying all
> over the garage.
>
> Stu
>
>
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Sun Jun 12 19:52:20 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:52:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
Message-ID: <853f4.11b0d5a3.3b26c754@aol.com>

If you have them out I would suggest taking them to a  dry cleaning company 
and ask them.  Shouldn't cost much and you would be  surprised the crap 
they can get out.
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 6/12/2011 8:58:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
laurin212 at yahoo.com writes:

resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email  with no
body attached)

> From: Peter Laurinaitis  <laurin212 at yahoo.com>
> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
>  To: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: sticky  situation
>
> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my  tigers the clutch 
master
cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my  carpet/padding, and on another
tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking  my carpets/padding with coolant.
on both, the padding under the carpet  seems to have absorbed most of the
fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out,  but the saturated padding and carpet
doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in  the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
the best way to dry these out, or  will they never really dry given we are
talking brake fluid and  antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
displace the fluid,  at least in the case of the coolant and then let air 
dry?
any other  ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?  
 or
get new paddings and toss the saturated  ones?
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 13 06:45:30 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:45:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] 13" tires (Once more)
Message-ID: <561685.40579.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I remember that information on where to purchase 13" tires has been previously posted but becuse the Tiger has 15" Minilites I didnt save the information. Now I need tires for an Alpine and a friend who races dirt track wants to change from 15s to 13s in order to raise his gear ratio. Any help would be, as usual, deeply appreciated.
regards, TonytheTiger

From rande at thecia.net  Mon Jun 13 06:57:26 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:57:26 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Paging Buck
Message-ID: <4df60936.423a.0@thecia.net>

paging Buck Trippel, I need to send you something for the United

From tsmit at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 11 21:01:48 2011
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:01:48 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] radiator
In-Reply-To: <1804D0BB-23D2-4492-8D7C-C98FF5E689BB@gmail.com>
References: <1804D0BB-23D2-4492-8D7C-C98FF5E689BB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1E8CA673-E61D-4688-9BB6-25E3A2F29B30@shaw.ca>

If they have two, I'm also interested.

Thanks,
Theo



On 2011-05-17, at 11:52 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> hello, anyone know where a I can get a tiger alu rad in stock sizing that
is
> in stock and available to ship now?
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From Carmods at aol.com  Mon Jun 13 07:11:07 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:11:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Doug Jennings phone no
Message-ID: <15af.4419ba15.3b27666b@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/11/2011 9:22:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
BEAU2EVE at aol.com writes:

I sure could Doug phone number, thanks.      Beau
_______________________________________________


Jennings Phone numbers are 937 256 0993 and 937 252  3317


John Logan  

From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 10:15:08 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:15:08 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Norman FS plus hundreds of other Tiger items
Message-ID: <F9C21438968845C8BF15848B02EF83AF@BUCK>

I spoke with Smitty this morning. He's auctioning hundreds of Tiger related
items collected by Dick Barker at this week's Tigers United in Long Beach.

The silent auction will include all sorts of items including an autographed
copy of the Book of Norman. Smitty said offsite bidders can be accommodated.

For details see  http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=668

bt

From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Mon Jun 13 10:58:50 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:58:50 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
In-Reply-To: <A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
References: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>
	<A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>

Here is a little story that will make the decision very easy for you.

As most of you know I'm a retired airline pilot, and a bunch of years ago a
bunch of us had to take new "company physicals" from the new takeover
company (American Airlines). One of our pilots had trouble passing the
physical; the doc. said he had something "wrong" with his blood and to go
have tests taken (on his dime).  Bottom line, he had glycol in his blood!
Turns out his truck had a small leak in the heater (hardly noticeable he
said). Turns out glycol does damage to you internal organs, the doc. told
him "if you so much as smell glycol it can damage your internal organs"!! I
know we all have been drenched in the stuff in the past.  I now am very
carful of my exposure to the stuff.

My advice is to throw the pad and carpet away! With gloves!

Jerry Christopherson
9473187    

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Peter Laurinaitis
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:11 PM
To: Tiger List List
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation

resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with no
body attached)

> From: Peter Laurinaitis <laurin212 at yahoo.com>
> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
> To: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: sticky situation
>
> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch master
cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on another
tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with coolant.
on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air
dry?
any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?
or
get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?
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From PhastPhill at aol.com  Mon Jun 13 12:27:41 2011
From: PhastPhill at aol.com (PhastPhill at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:27:41 EDT
Subject: [Tigers] 13" tires (Once more)
Message-ID: <1c436.af8da4d.3b27b09d@aol.com>

tony thought you were in Spain.....oppps

From cars at wt-inc.com  Mon Jun 13 13:31:56 2011
From: cars at wt-inc.com (cars at wt-inc.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:31:56 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] radiator
In-Reply-To: <1E8CA673-E61D-4688-9BB6-25E3A2F29B30@shaw.ca>
References: <1804D0BB-23D2-4492-8D7C-C98FF5E689BB@gmail.com>
	<1E8CA673-E61D-4688-9BB6-25E3A2F29B30@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <007601cc2a00$8f8bc450$aea34cf0$@com>

Have you called Dale A??

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Theo Smit
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:02 PM
To: Owain Lloyd
Cc: Tiger List Serve
Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator

If they have two, I'm also interested.

Thanks,
Theo



On 2011-05-17, at 11:52 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> hello, anyone know where a I can get a tiger alu rad in stock sizing that
is
> in stock and available to ship now?
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jun 13 14:24:31 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:24:31 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
In-Reply-To: <211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>
References: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>
	<A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
	<211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>
Message-ID: <460F428E-A7F3-415A-9794-5AB5BFC8E3FB@gmail.com>

that's why I always use the expensive organic acid OAT stuff.  it's usually
pink or orange colored.  glycol kills your kidneys I think.  these days there
isn't much difference in cost as the cheap stuff seems to be a lot more
expensive than it used to be only a few years ago.

On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:58, "Jerry & Maureen \(Mo\)" <JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net>
wrote:

> Here is a little story that will make the decision very easy for you.
>
> As most of you know I'm a retired airline pilot, and a bunch of years ago a
> bunch of us had to take new "company physicals" from the new takeover
> company (American Airlines). One of our pilots had trouble passing the
> physical; the doc. said he had something "wrong" with his blood and to go
> have tests taken (on his dime).  Bottom line, he had glycol in his blood!
> Turns out his truck had a small leak in the heater (hardly noticeable he
> said). Turns out glycol does damage to you internal organs, the doc. told
> him "if you so much as smell glycol it can damage your internal organs"!! I
> know we all have been drenched in the stuff in the past.  I now am very
> carful of my exposure to the stuff.
>
> My advice is to throw the pad and carpet away! With gloves!
>
> Jerry Christopherson
> 9473187
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Peter Laurinaitis
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:11 PM
> To: Tiger List List
> Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
>
> resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with no
> body attached)
>
>> From: Peter Laurinaitis <laurin212 at yahoo.com>
>> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
>> To: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: sticky situation
>>
>> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch master
> cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on another
> tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with coolant.
> on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
> fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
> doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
> the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
> talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
> displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air
> dry?
> any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?
> or
> get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jun 13 14:27:15 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:27:15 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
In-Reply-To: <211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>
References: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>
	<A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
	<211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>
Message-ID: <11D25577-3272-465A-A22F-9F3E10810BD3@gmail.com>

forgot to mention it's full if nasty additives too.  some potentially worse
than glycol.

hard to avoid the occasion soaking though....

On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:58, "Jerry & Maureen \(Mo\)" <JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net>
wrote:

> Here is a little story that will make the decision very easy for you.
>
> As most of you know I'm a retired airline pilot, and a bunch of years ago a
> bunch of us had to take new "company physicals" from the new takeover
> company (American Airlines). One of our pilots had trouble passing the
> physical; the doc. said he had something "wrong" with his blood and to go
> have tests taken (on his dime).  Bottom line, he had glycol in his blood!
> Turns out his truck had a small leak in the heater (hardly noticeable he
> said). Turns out glycol does damage to you internal organs, the doc. told
> him "if you so much as smell glycol it can damage your internal organs"!! I
> know we all have been drenched in the stuff in the past.  I now am very
> carful of my exposure to the stuff.
>
> My advice is to throw the pad and carpet away! With gloves!
>
> Jerry Christopherson
> 9473187
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Peter Laurinaitis
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:11 PM
> To: Tiger List List
> Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
>
> resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with no
> body attached)
>
>> From: Peter Laurinaitis <laurin212 at yahoo.com>
>> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
>> To: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: sticky situation
>>
>> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch master
> cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on another
> tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with coolant.
> on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
> fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
> doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
> the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
> talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
> displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air
> dry?
> any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?
> or
> get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From jrv309 at charter.net  Mon Jun 13 15:04:40 2011
From: jrv309 at charter.net (jrv309 at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:04:40 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] 13" tires (Once more)
In-Reply-To: <1c436.af8da4d.3b27b09d@aol.com>
References: <1c436.af8da4d.3b27b09d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B6058EC94FB84FF9AE0FE0324FAB6087@NewDell>

Did all of us get that "spam" message?  J&M with the Candy Apple Tiger.

-----Original Message----- 
From: PhastPhill at aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 11:27 AM
To: achd73 at yahoo.com ; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 13" tires (Once more)

tony thought you were in Spain.....oppps
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From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 15:19:15 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:19:15 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] radiator
In-Reply-To: <007601cc2a00$8f8bc450$aea34cf0$@com>
References: <1804D0BB-23D2-4492-8D7C-C98FF5E689BB@gmail.com>
	<1E8CA673-E61D-4688-9BB6-25E3A2F29B30@shaw.ca>
	<007601cc2a00$8f8bc450$aea34cf0$@com>
Message-ID: <01EC52137D294B31A34C41F010F617E6@BUCK>

I called Dale. He can ship tomorrow, $450 plus shipping.

bt


--------------------------------------------------
From: <cars at wt-inc.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:31 PM
To: "'Theo Smit'" <tsmit at shaw.ca>; "'Owain Lloyd'" <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: "'Tiger List Serve'" <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator

> Have you called Dale A??
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Theo Smit
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:02 PM
> To: Owain Lloyd
> Cc: Tiger List Serve
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator
>
> If they have two, I'm also interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Theo
>
>
>
> On 2011-05-17, at 11:52 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello, anyone know where a I can get a tiger alu rad in stock sizing that
> is
>> in stock and available to ship now?
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From cars at wt-inc.com  Mon Jun 13 15:21:59 2011
From: cars at wt-inc.com (cars at wt-inc.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:21:59 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] radiator
In-Reply-To: <01EC52137D294B31A34C41F010F617E6@BUCK>
References: <1804D0BB-23D2-4492-8D7C-C98FF5E689BB@gmail.com>
	<1E8CA673-E61D-4688-9BB6-25E3A2F29B30@shaw.ca>
	<007601cc2a00$8f8bc450$aea34cf0$@com>
	<01EC52137D294B31A34C41F010F617E6@BUCK>
Message-ID: <008901cc2a0f$eecadcd0$cc609670$@com>

That is a pretty great  price in my opinion.

Lynn

-----Original Message-----
From: Buck Trippel [mailto:BuckTrippel at Verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:19 PM
To: cars at wt-inc.com; 'Theo Smit'; 'Owain Lloyd'
Cc: 'Tiger List Serve'
Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator

I called Dale. He can ship tomorrow, $450 plus shipping.

bt


--------------------------------------------------
From: <cars at wt-inc.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:31 PM
To: "'Theo Smit'" <tsmit at shaw.ca>; "'Owain Lloyd'" <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: "'Tiger List Serve'" <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator

> Have you called Dale A??
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Theo Smit
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:02 PM
> To: Owain Lloyd
> Cc: Tiger List Serve
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator
>
> If they have two, I'm also interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Theo
>
>
>
> On 2011-05-17, at 11:52 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello, anyone know where a I can get a tiger alu rad in stock sizing that
> is
>> in stock and available to ship now?
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From chris at cthompson.net  Mon Jun 13 20:42:16 2011
From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:42:16 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
In-Reply-To: <460F428E-A7F3-415A-9794-5AB5BFC8E3FB@gmail.com>
References: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>
	<A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
	<211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>
	<460F428E-A7F3-415A-9794-5AB5BFC8E3FB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DF6CA88.40701@cthompson.net>

I'm pretty sure we covered this topic a few years ago.  "Glycol" isn't 
toxic - "ethylene glycol" is.  That's why I use propylene glycol in all 
my vehicles, and have for over a dozen years.  Back when I raised sheep, 
we used to give them a good quart or so dose of it daily if they got 
"pregnancy disease".  That's right - you can drink the propylene stuff.....

Chris

On 6/13/2011 4:24 PM, Owain Lloyd wrote:
> that's why I always use the expensive organic acid OAT stuff.  it's usually
> pink or orange colored.  glycol kills your kidneys I think.  these days there
> isn't much difference in cost as the cheap stuff seems to be a lot more
> expensive than it used to be only a few years ago.
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:58, "Jerry&  Maureen \(Mo\)"<JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a little story that will make the decision very easy for you.
>>
>> As most of you know I'm a retired airline pilot, and a bunch of years ago a
>> bunch of us had to take new "company physicals" from the new takeover
>> company (American Airlines). One of our pilots had trouble passing the
>> physical; the doc. said he had something "wrong" with his blood and to go
>> have tests taken (on his dime).  Bottom line, he had glycol in his blood!
>> Turns out his truck had a small leak in the heater (hardly noticeable he
>> said). Turns out glycol does damage to you internal organs, the doc. told
>> him "if you so much as smell glycol it can damage your internal organs"!! I
>> know we all have been drenched in the stuff in the past.  I now am very
>> carful of my exposure to the stuff.
>>
>> My advice is to throw the pad and carpet away! With gloves!
>>
>> Jerry Christopherson
>> 9473187
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On Behalf Of Peter Laurinaitis
>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: Tiger List List
>> Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
>>
>> resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with no
>> body attached)
>>
>>> From: Peter Laurinaitis<laurin212 at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
>>> To: Tiger List List<tigers at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: sticky situation
>>>
>>> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch master
>> cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on another
>> tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with coolant.
>> on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
>> fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
>> doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
>> the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
>> talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
>> displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air
>> dry?
>> any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?
>> or
>> get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?
>> _______________________________________________

From Carmods at aol.com  Tue Jun 14 06:58:26 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:58:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Aluminum radiators
Message-ID: <e168.5a3263ae.3b28b4f2@aol.com>

hello, anyone know where a I can get a tiger alu rad in stock  sizing that
is in stock and available to ship now?


Doug Jennings sells Aluminum Radiators for Tigers that fit and work! His  
numbers are
937 256 0993 and 937 252 3317.
 
You may have trouble reaching him for a few days since Buck said he was  
planning to visit his daughter in Denver.


.
 
John Logan

From garywinblad at comcast.net  Tue Jun 14 20:48:26 2011
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary Winblad)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:48:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Ebay Alger
Message-ID: <1776528688.2076947.1308106106707.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Now here's something you don't see every day..   A REAL almost completed Alger from the mid 70's.
Who will be the first to complete and fully restore this RARE beast??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1967-Sunbeam-Alpine-TIGER-conversion-OE-PARTS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb5d7160dQQitemZ200619267597QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

Gary

From handy at cruzio.com  Tue Jun 14 21:32:46 2011
From: handy at cruzio.com (handy)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:32:46 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United 2011 Long Beach
Message-ID: <185A2757-45B3-4C5A-8925-FD75F2793384@cruzio.com>


From handy at cruzio.com  Tue Jun 14 21:50:33 2011
From: handy at cruzio.com (handy)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United 2011 Long Beach
Message-ID: <ED93A04F-57A2-4F85-BBB9-682773BA573B@cruzio.com>


From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Wed Jun 15 12:12:23 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:12:23 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
In-Reply-To: <4DF6CA88.40701@cthompson.net>
References: <D4BA64FB-8243-45BA-8539-F8DB392AFC95@yahoo.com>
	<A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
	<211DED65A56F4018AC80BC4A4DA00A41@jerry>
	<460F428E-A7F3-415A-9794-5AB5BFC8E3FB@gmail.com>
	<4DF6CA88.40701@cthompson.net>
Message-ID: <F56CFEB6BD604F21B3DC5BB4E62893CA@jerry>

You are absolutely right!  I failed to mention that I too have been using
the Propylene type. I haven't been able to convince my Mustang friends yet.

Jerry Christopherson
9473187

PS  See Y'all at the QM!  

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Thompson [mailto:chris at cthompson.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 9:42 PM
To: Owain Lloyd
Cc: Jerry & Maureen (Mo); Tiger List List
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation

I'm pretty sure we covered this topic a few years ago.  "Glycol" isn't 
toxic - "ethylene glycol" is.  That's why I use propylene glycol in all 
my vehicles, and have for over a dozen years.  Back when I raised sheep, 
we used to give them a good quart or so dose of it daily if they got 
"pregnancy disease".  That's right - you can drink the propylene stuff.....

Chris

On 6/13/2011 4:24 PM, Owain Lloyd wrote:
> that's why I always use the expensive organic acid OAT stuff.  it's
usually
> pink or orange colored.  glycol kills your kidneys I think.  these days
there
> isn't much difference in cost as the cheap stuff seems to be a lot more
> expensive than it used to be only a few years ago.
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:58, "Jerry&  Maureen
\(Mo\)"<JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a little story that will make the decision very easy for you.
>>
>> As most of you know I'm a retired airline pilot, and a bunch of years ago
a
>> bunch of us had to take new "company physicals" from the new takeover
>> company (American Airlines). One of our pilots had trouble passing the
>> physical; the doc. said he had something "wrong" with his blood and to go
>> have tests taken (on his dime).  Bottom line, he had glycol in his blood!
>> Turns out his truck had a small leak in the heater (hardly noticeable he
>> said). Turns out glycol does damage to you internal organs, the doc. told
>> him "if you so much as smell glycol it can damage your internal organs"!!
I
>> know we all have been drenched in the stuff in the past.  I now am very
>> carful of my exposure to the stuff.
>>
>> My advice is to throw the pad and carpet away! With gloves!
>>
>> Jerry Christopherson
>> 9473187
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> On Behalf Of Peter Laurinaitis
>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: Tiger List List
>> Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
>>
>> resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with
no
>> body attached)
>>
>>> From: Peter Laurinaitis<laurin212 at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
>>> To: Tiger List List<tigers at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: sticky situation
>>>
>>> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch
master
>> cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on
another
>> tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with
coolant.
>> on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
>> fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
>> doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.
Whats
>> the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
>> talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
>> displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air
>> dry?
>> any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll dry?
>> or
>> get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?
>> _______________________________________________

From tthomason at cinci.rr.com  Wed Jun 15 15:39:25 2011
From: tthomason at cinci.rr.com (Tom T)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:39:25 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 25
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1308160804.17655.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.25.1308160804.17655.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1065739902-1308173973-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1034288093-@b2.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Please remove me from your distribution list. This is my second request. 
Thank You,
Tom Thomason
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:48:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: Gary Winblad <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Ebay Alger
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Now here's something you don't see every day..   A REAL almost completed Alger from the mid 70's.
Who will be the first to complete and fully restore this RARE beast??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1967-Sunbeam-Alpine-TIGER-conversion-OE-PARTS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb5d7160dQQitemZ200619267597QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

Gary


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:32:46 -0700
From: handy <handy at cruzio.com>
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From slaifman at socal.rr.com  Wed Jun 15 18:03:12 2011
From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 25
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Message-ID: <4DF94840.10104@socal.rr.com>

Did you read ANY of the footers? in the Tiger mail". This may help you.

Steve
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From deiland1 at elp.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 12:53:15 2011
From: deiland1 at elp.rr.com (deiland1 at elp.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:53:15 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] JH-Who is Best at Sleeving a Brake Master Cylinder? Not
 Tiger Related
Message-ID: <20110616185315.8HAY7.223065.root@hrndva-web24-z02>

I'm working on replacing my old, tired, worn out brake booster and Master Cylinder with aftermarket American made parts. Only issue is the smallest bore on the Master Cylinder I want is 1" when the OE had a 3/4" bore. Since the OE is NLA I thought I would buy a new 1" bore MC and have it sleeved to take a Triumph TR6 internals so it will be easy to rebuild in the future and be close to the same pressure as the OE. The TR6 is a 13/16" bore so it works fine from what people have told me who have used them. I have a couple of questions: 1) What is the difference between a shallow bore and deep bore MC and how would I know which one I would need for my replacement?;and 2) Who would you recommend to sleeve a brand new polished aluminum MC? I'm looking for a quality job that is also done very carefully so not to damage the show quality housing. I am aware there are some shops out there that have burned a few people so I would like to hear about the best shops that I can trust.

TIA,
Dan Eiland

BTW-this is for a 1974 Jensen Healey, but I know a lot of my old friends from the Tiger list are very knowledgeable on these kinds of subjects so I thought I would see if anyone wanted to add their 2 cents.

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Thu Jun 16 14:47:05 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:47:05 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] JH-Who is Best at Sleeving a Brake Master Cylinder?
 Not Tiger Related
References: <20110616185315.8HAY7.223065.root@hrndva-web24-z02>
Message-ID: <78AC0961E070430C96A4A2193E6FA1F0@student2>

Dan,

There is a company called "White Post" that I have heard of in many car 
related articles. This is their web site: 
http://www.whitepost.com/brake.html

I have never used them, but it seems many people have. Having been around 
for a long time they would seem to be able to advise you on your needs.

Tom Witt


> I'm working on replacing my old, tired, worn out brake booster and Master 
> Cylinder with aftermarket American made parts. Only issue is the smallest 
> bore on the Master Cylinder I want is 1" when the OE had a 3/4" bore. 
> Since the OE is NLA I thought I would buy a new 1" bore MC and have it 
> sleeved to take a Triumph TR6 internals so it will be easy to rebuild in 
> the future and be close to the same pressure as the OE. The TR6 is a 
> 13/16" bore so it works fine from what people have told me who have used 
> them. I have a couple of questions: 1) What is the difference between a 
> shallow bore and deep bore MC and how would I know which one I would need 
> for my replacement?;and 2) Who would you recommend to sleeve a brand new 
> polished aluminum MC? I'm looking for a quality job that is also done very 
> carefully so not to damage the show quality housing. I am aware there are 
> some shops out there that have burned a few people so I would like to hear 
> about the best shops that I can trust.
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
> BTW-this is for a 1974 Jensen Healey, but I know a lot of my old friends 
> from the Tiger list are very knowledgeable on these kinds of subjects so I 
> thought I would see if anyone wanted to add their 2 cents.

From deiland1 at elp.rr.com  Fri Jun 17 06:05:05 2011
From: deiland1 at elp.rr.com (deiland1 at elp.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:05:05 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger Related-Brake Upgrade
Message-ID: <20110617120505.YEM3X.213824.root@hrndva-web11-z02>

I've been doing more research on my brake upgrade and the following is what I 
have found so far. If more knowledgeable souls are out there, I welcome your 
input/criticism/outright yelling at me or what ever input you would like to 
give. 
 
I can't get to the pedal box very well since it is mounted to my car, but based 
on my crude measurements I think the pedal ratio is close to 4:1 if my 
measurements are correct. The formula for calculating Master Cylinder line 
pressure is: 
Pressure = (Leg force on the pedal) x (Pedal Ratio) divided by (Master Cylinder 
Piston Area). 
Just for comparison's sake I'm using 100 for the leg force on the pedal. Actual 
pressure may be more or less. 
 
0.7500" bore MC = 0.4418 sq. in of piston area 
1.0000" Bore MC = 0.7854 sq. in of piston area 
 
Therefore; OE MC with  .75" bore P= (100 * 4.33)/0.4418 = 980 psi 
           New MC with 1.0" bore P= (100 * 4.33)/0.7854 = 551 psi 
 
With the original 7" single diaphram booster you would gain about 494 psi of 
free boost on the OE MC and about 381 psi with the 1" bore MC. But with the dual 
diaphram MC this would increase to around 490 psi free boost. This means the 
total boost are as below: 
 
OE 0.75" bore with 7" SD booster 980psi + 494 psi = 1474 psi total 
New 1.0" bore with 7" DD booster 551psi + 490 psi = 1041 psi total 
 
Although this is about a 40% difference, when you consider the OE application 
was with a two piston caliper with about 3.3 sq/in of pad area compared to my 
new 4 piston caliper with 6.63 sq/in of pad area and slotted discs then the end 
result is actually improved braking over the OE even with the 1" bore MC. If I 
use a smaller bore MC with all my new parts I would really have a lot more force 
at the brake disc which may actually not be that great of an idea. 
 
I have thrown out my calculations for all to see (flawed or not) and now I wait 
the gunfire. 
 
Dan Eiland 

From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 10:04:35 2011
From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:04:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] JH-Who is Best at Sleeving a Brake Master Cylinder?
 Not Tiger Related
In-Reply-To: <78AC0961E070430C96A4A2193E6FA1F0@student2>
References: <20110616185315.8HAY7.223065.root@hrndva-web24-z02>
	<78AC0961E070430C96A4A2193E6FA1F0@student2>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinH-jntJNqYnN+tr_RX_rGq6W+iPg@mail.gmail.com>

The MC on my Tiger was refurbished (and sleeved, IIRC) by White Post.  They
do good work and you should not have any problems.

Keep on Tigering!

 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Thomas Witt <atwittsend at verizon.net> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> There is a company called "White Post" that I have heard of in many car
> related articles. This is their web site: http://www.whitepost.com/**
> brake.html <http://www.whitepost.com/brake.html>
>
> I have never used them, but it seems many people have. Having been around
> for a long time they would seem to be able to advise you on your needs.
>
> Tom Witt
>
>
>
> I'm working on replacing my old, tired, worn out brake booster and Master
>> Cylinder with aftermarket American made parts. Only issue is the smallest
>> bore on the Master Cylinder I want is 1" when the OE had a 3/4" bore. Since
>> the OE is NLA I thought I would buy a new 1" bore MC and have it sleeved to
>> take a Triumph TR6 internals so it will be easy to rebuild in the future and
>> be close to the same pressure as the OE. The TR6 is a 13/16" bore so it
>> works fine from what people have told me who have used them. I have a couple
>> of questions: 1) What is the difference between a shallow bore and deep bore
>> MC and how would I know which one I would need for my replacement?;and 2)
>> Who would you recommend to sleeve a brand new polished aluminum MC? I'm
>> looking for a quality job that is also done very carefully so not to damage
>> the show quality housing. I am aware there are some shops out there that
>> have burned a few people so I would like to hear about the best shops that I
>> can trust.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Dan Eiland
>>
>> BTW-this is for a 1974 Jensen Healey, but I know a lot of my old friends
>> from the Tiger list are very knowledgeable on these kinds of subjects so I
>> thought I would see if anyone wanted to add their 2 cents.
>>
> ______________________________**_________________

From e.coiner at cox.net  Fri Jun 17 14:40:59 2011
From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:40:59 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger Related-Brake Upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20110617120505.YEM3X.213824.root@hrndva-web11-z02>
Message-ID: <20110617164059.3Z3N1.896500.imail@fed1rmwml35>

Dan,
Only one correction.  The area of the pads is irrelevant to force calculations.  You need to know the area of the pistons in the caliper. Only count the area of the pistons on one side of the disc. ie a 4 piston caliper only count the area of 2 pistons.
Erich
---- deiland1 at elp.rr.com wrote: 
> I've been doing more research on my brake upgrade and the following is what I 
> have found so far. If more knowledgeable souls are out there, I welcome your 
> input/criticism/outright yelling at me or what ever input you would like to 
> give. 
>  
> I can't get to the pedal box very well since it is mounted to my car, but based 
> on my crude measurements I think the pedal ratio is close to 4:1 if my 
> measurements are correct. The formula for calculating Master Cylinder line 
> pressure is: 
> Pressure = (Leg force on the pedal) x (Pedal Ratio) divided by (Master Cylinder 
> Piston Area). 
> Just for comparison's sake I'm using 100 for the leg force on the pedal. Actual 
> pressure may be more or less. 
>  
> 0.7500" bore MC = 0.4418 sq. in of piston area 
> 1.0000" Bore MC = 0.7854 sq. in of piston area 
>  
> Therefore; OE MC with  .75" bore P= (100 * 4.33)/0.4418 = 980 psi 
>            New MC with 1.0" bore P= (100 * 4.33)/0.7854 = 551 psi 
>  
> With the original 7" single diaphram booster you would gain about 494 psi of 
> free boost on the OE MC and about 381 psi with the 1" bore MC. But with the dual 
> diaphram MC this would increase to around 490 psi free boost. This means the 
> total boost are as below: 
>  
> OE 0.75" bore with 7" SD booster 980psi + 494 psi = 1474 psi total 
> New 1.0" bore with 7" DD booster 551psi + 490 psi = 1041 psi total 
>  
> Although this is about a 40% difference, when you consider the OE application 
> was with a two piston caliper with about 3.3 sq/in of pad area compared to my 
> new 4 piston caliper with 6.63 sq/in of pad area and slotted discs then the end 
> result is actually improved braking over the OE even with the 1" bore MC. If I 
> use a smaller bore MC with all my new parts I would really have a lot more force 
> at the brake disc which may actually not be that great of an idea. 
>  
> I have thrown out my calculations for all to see (flawed or not) and now I wait 
> the gunfire. 
>  
> Dan Eiland 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
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From deiland1 at elp.rr.com  Fri Jun 17 15:57:50 2011
From: deiland1 at elp.rr.com (deiland1 at elp.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:57:50 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger Related-Brake Upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20110617164059.3Z3N1.896500.imail@fed1rmwml35>
Message-ID: <20110617215751.KO0F2.219427.root@hrndva-web15-z02>

Erich,

How do I factor in the area of the pistons into my calculations so I have a better idea as to how much pressure is actually being applied to the disc to stop the car. Do I multiply the psi times the area of the pistons in my calipers?

Dan


---- e.coiner at cox.net wrote: 
> Dan,
> Only one correction.  The area of the pads is irrelevant to force calculations.  You need to know the area of the pistons in the caliper. Only count the area of the pistons on one side of the disc. ie a 4 piston caliper only count the area of 2 pistons.
> Erich
> ---- deiland1 at elp.rr.com wrote: 
> > I've been doing more research on my brake upgrade and the following is what I 
> > have found so far. If more knowledgeable souls are out there, I welcome your 
> > input/criticism/outright yelling at me or what ever input you would like to 
> > give. 
> >  
> > I can't get to the pedal box very well since it is mounted to my car, but based 
> > on my crude measurements I think the pedal ratio is close to 4:1 if my 
> > measurements are correct. The formula for calculating Master Cylinder line 
> > pressure is: 
> > Pressure = (Leg force on the pedal) x (Pedal Ratio) divided by (Master Cylinder 
> > Piston Area). 
> > Just for comparison's sake I'm using 100 for the leg force on the pedal. Actual 
> > pressure may be more or less. 
> >  
> > 0.7500" bore MC = 0.4418 sq. in of piston area 
> > 1.0000" Bore MC = 0.7854 sq. in of piston area 
> >  
> > Therefore; OE MC with  .75" bore P= (100 * 4.33)/0.4418 = 980 psi 
> >            New MC with 1.0" bore P= (100 * 4.33)/0.7854 = 551 psi 
> >  
> > With the original 7" single diaphram booster you would gain about 494 psi of 
> > free boost on the OE MC and about 381 psi with the 1" bore MC. But with the dual 
> > diaphram MC this would increase to around 490 psi free boost. This means the 
> > total boost are as below: 
> >  
> > OE 0.75" bore with 7" SD booster 980psi + 494 psi = 1474 psi total 
> > New 1.0" bore with 7" DD booster 551psi + 490 psi = 1041 psi total 
> >  
> > Although this is about a 40% difference, when you consider the OE application 
> > was with a two piston caliper with about 3.3 sq/in of pad area compared to my 
> > new 4 piston caliper with 6.63 sq/in of pad area and slotted discs then the end 
> > result is actually improved braking over the OE even with the 1" bore MC. If I 
> > use a smaller bore MC with all my new parts I would really have a lot more force 
> > at the brake disc which may actually not be that great of an idea. 
> >  
> > I have thrown out my calculations for all to see (flawed or not) and now I wait 
> > the gunfire. 
> >  
> > Dan Eiland 
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> > 
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net

From Carmods at aol.com  Fri Jun 17 17:13:30 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:13:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers]  Not Tiger Related-Brake Upgrade
Message-ID: <91285.70b87070.3b2d399a@aol.com>

deiland1 at elp.rr.com writes:
 
Do I multiply the psi times the area of the pistons in my  calipers?


Yes Dan, multiply psi by the total piston area on one  side of the disk.
 
John Logan

From deiland1 at elp.rr.com  Fri Jun 17 21:11:54 2011
From: deiland1 at elp.rr.com (deiland1 at elp.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:11:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] More Brake Calculations
Message-ID: <20110618031155.HQ3TW.98609.root@hrndva-web12-z01>

I've looked at the calculations and considered the 1" bore MC is probably just not going to work. The calculated pressure at the disc is almost the same as the OE brakes which would make the investment worthless. I am looking for good looks and function and I think I can get a balance of the two if I go to the Wilwood 7/8" MC, a dual diaphram booster and my 4 piston M16 Outlaw calipers on my Jensen Healey. If my calculations are correct (and I am only using 100 psi of leg pressure at the pedal for this comparison) my OE brakes would deliver about 4068psi at the disc and the new set up would deliver about 4327psi at the front disc. This would calculate to around 6-7% increase in brake pressure. Not to much and not to little. With the added performance this should work.

Dan Eiland 

From csx2282 at sonic.net  Sat Jun 18 12:59:47 2011
From: csx2282 at sonic.net (csx2282)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:59:47 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] JH-Who is Best at Sleeving a Brake Master Cylinder?
References: <mailman.22.1308333606.621.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <B8F5B8594BC14989B86FEFA7769E78B8@Cobra>

I have had multiple cylinders (non Tiger) sleeved by Sierra Specialty 
Automotive and have been quite pleased with the results.

Sierra Specialty Automotive
494 Chandler Rd. Quincy, CA 95971
(800) 4-BRASS-1 or (530) 283-1886
FAX: (530) 283-4845
http://www.brakecylinder.com/
E-mail: joe at brakecylinder.com
shopkeeper at brakecylinder.com

I had a very bad experience with Apple Hydraulics, BTW.

Roland

----- Original Message ----- > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:53:15 +0000
> From: <deiland1 at elp.rr.com>
> To: Jensen List <JENSEN-cars at british-steel.org>,  Tiger List
> <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
> >
> I'm working on replacing my old, tired, worn out brake booster and Master 
> Cylinder with aftermarket American made parts. Only issue is the smallest 
> bore on the Master Cylinder I want is 1" when the OE had a 3/4" bore. 
> Since the OE is NLA I thought I would buy a new 1" bore MC and have it 
> sleeved to take a Triumph TR6 internals so it will be easy to rebuild in 
> the future and be close to the same pressure as the OE. The TR6 is a 
> 13/16" bore so it works fine from what people have told me who have used 
> them. I have a couple of questions: 1) What is the difference between a 
> shallow bore and deep bore MC and how would I know which one I would need 
> for my replacement?;and 2) Who would you recommend to sleeve a brand new 
> polished aluminum MC? I'm looking for a quality job that is also done very 
> carefully so not to damage the show quality housing. I am aware there are 
> some shops out there that have burned a few people so I would like to hear 
> about the best shops that I can trust.
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
> BTW-this is for a 1974 Jensen Healey, but I know a lot of my old friends 
> from the Tiger list are very knowledgeable on these kinds of subjects so I 
> thought I would see if anyone wanted to add their 2 cents.

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 20 10:48:55 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] my yahoo account was stolen
Message-ID: <311827.13335.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I want to apologize to the LIST and to each individual who received email stating I was out of the country and requested 2500 Euros be sent to whomever. The bast---s also deleted my entire address book, even tho I have attempted to recover it. It took several days to get my account returned as I had forgotten my gmail account. 2 phone calls and on hold for 30 plus minutes finally succeeded. I did provide a new hotmail address BUT the lady spelled tony with an i, so the reset email went to tigerthetoni at hotmail as opposed to tigerthetony at hotmail. Yes we need to insist that people speak and understand English.
Again, I hop[e this problem3m didn't get anyone to forward any funds to the jerk. IF I could only get my hands on him/her.
Thanks, TonytheTiger

From rande at thecia.net  Mon Jun 20 11:15:28 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] todays Hemmings newsletter
Message-ID: <4dff8030.1b98.0@thecia.net>

On the 6/20/11 Hemmings daily newsletter among featured classifieds is a Tiger
with, among other mods, RH and LH gas filler caps.

From marcsmall at comcast.net  Mon Jun 20 11:21:29 2011
From: marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:21:29 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] my yahoo account was stolen
In-Reply-To: <311827.13335.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <311827.13335.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110620172553.2E55218766C@autox.team.net>

At 12:48 PM 6/20/2011, Tony Somebody wrote:
 >I want to apologize to the LIST and to each individual who received
 >email stating I was out of the country and requested 2500 Euros be
 >sent to whomever.

Do you mean that I needn't have sent you the
money?  Oh, dear.  Well, you can refund it
immediately to my Nigerian bank account ....

Actually, I heard not a word from you asking for
money though I acknowledge that an interest in
Rootes Group products does lead  rapidly to an
addiction to Large Sums of Money.

Marc


msmall at aya.yale.edu
Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir!

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Mon Jun 20 12:53:18 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:53:18 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] my yahoo account was stolen
References: <311827.13335.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9F018A85D3E043FD99CAF59B24F54E18@student2>

Actually if EVERYONE DID reply to these emails (minus the information 
requested) then these pirates would have to sift through millions of them to 
glean the one individual who did give them the information and/or money. 
What's the phrase... "Right back at ya."

Tom

>>>I want to apologize to the LIST and to each individual who received email 
>>>stating I .... <<< 

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Mon Jun 20 13:08:43 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:08:43 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] todays Hemmings newsletter
References: <4dff8030.1b98.0@thecia.net>
Message-ID: <CD163428C7A445A39A1B67F48A296430@student2>

>>>among featured classifieds is a Tiger with, among other mods, RH and LH 
>>>gas filler caps.<<<

Humm..., a way of eliminating the fearsome crossover tube - though it may 
complicate filling up. Not that the tube bothers me..., I drive a Pinto 
also. "It's a car. It's a Bar-B-Q. It's a "Car-B-Q." "   :-)

Tom

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Mon Jun 20 14:41:00 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:41:00 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] todays Hemmings newsletter
In-Reply-To: <4dff8030.1b98.0@thecia.net>
References: <4dff8030.1b98.0@thecia.net>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED7A0855@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

Looks like it also has the rare 'exhaust pass-thru reinforcement delete'
option.

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 21 22:03:05 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:03:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tony Tiger List
In-Reply-To: <BAY148-ds7C8B69222B60FD6DC2F7DAD690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <82531.29158.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

David- some forigner stole my yahoo account. Im sorry for you and other
members receiving email with my name requesting money. I sure hope no one sent
any funds.
Keep on Tigering, Tony in Benton, IL.

--- On Mon, 6/13/11, David or Gary Franchi <wwwdg at webtv.net> wrote:

> From: David or Gary Franchi <wwwdg at webtv.net>
> Subject: Tony Tiger List
> To: achd73 at yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 9:49 AM
> Hi Tony, Received this attached
> e-mail with your name but with a slightly different e-mail
> (acchd73, not achd73). You might have a virus or?
>
> David Franchi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Somebody
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:29 AM
> To: achd73 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Hi
>
> Hope you get this on time, sorry I didn't inform you about
> my trip in Spain for a Program, I'm presently in Madrid and
> am having some difficulties here because i  misplaced
> my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and other
> valuable things were kept. presently  i have limited
> access to internet, I will like you to assist  me with
> a loan of 2,600 Euros to sort-out my hotel bills and to get
> myself back home.
>
> I have spoken to the embassy here but they are not
> responding to the matter effectively, I will appreciate
> whatever you can afford to assist me with, I'll Refund
> the  money back to you as soon as I return, let me know
> if you can be of any help. I don't have a phone where I can
> be reached. Please let me know immediately.
>
> Best regards
>    Tony

From mgman71 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 22 08:33:01 2011
From: mgman71 at comcast.net (George Re)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:33:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Exhaust Manifold question
Message-ID: <411772694.2205366.1308753181355.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I am just about to send my manifolds out for coating but have run into a small problem. There are 2 tubes on the Right manifold one goes to the choke and one goes to the bottom of the air cleaner HOW do you remove the tube (the one that goes to the bottom of the cleaner) from the manifold? I have no idea and can not find any info on it. Thanks in advance 

George Re 

From sganz at pacbell.net  Wed Jun 22 09:56:50 2011
From: sganz at pacbell.net (Sandy Ganz)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] [non Tiger] - Spectre 341 Challenge Ford Maverick
In-Reply-To: <82531.29158.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <82531.29158.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <447585.61171.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For those that might enjoy watching what the 341 Challenge is from a Ford
Maverick here are a couple of videos of me hacking the road. 


It is not a
Ford engine as you can tell by the sound think Fast and Furious...

Enjoy
Sandy
In Car Camera 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8ZG5pUm_H4 

Hood Camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpTYmBSTPuw&feature=relmfu 



----- Original
Message ----
From: Tony Somebody <achd73 at yahoo.com>
To: David or Gary Franchi
<wwwdg at webtv.net>
Cc: Beamclub <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, June 21,
2011 9:03:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tony Tiger List

David- some forigner
stole my yahoo account. Im sorry for you and other
members receiving email
with my name requesting money. I sure hope no one sent
any funds.
Keep on
Tigering, Tony in Benton, IL.

--- On Mon, 6/13/11, David or Gary Franchi
<wwwdg at webtv.net> wrote:

> From: David or Gary Franchi <wwwdg at webtv.net>
>
Subject: Tony Tiger List
> To: achd73 at yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, June 13, 2011,
9:49 AM
> Hi Tony, Received this attached
> e-mail with your name but with a
slightly different e-mail
> (acchd73, not achd73). You might have a virus or?
>
> David Franchi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Somebody
>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:29 AM
> To: achd73 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Hi
>
>
Hope you get this on time, sorry I didn't inform you about
> my trip in Spain
for a Program, I'm presently in Madrid and
> am having some difficulties here
because i  misplaced
> my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and
other
> valuable things were kept. presently  i have limited
> access to
internet, I will like you to assist  me with
> a loan of 2,600 Euros to
sort-out my hotel bills and to get
> myself back home.
>
> I have spoken to
the embassy here but they are not
> responding to the matter effectively, I
will appreciate
> whatever you can afford to assist me with, I'll Refund
>
the  money back to you as soon as I return, let me know
> if you can be of any
help. I don't have a phone where I can
> be reached. Please let me know
immediately.
>
> Best regards
>    Tony
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From e.coiner at cox.net  Wed Jun 22 12:11:13 2011
From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:11:13 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Exhaust Manifold question
In-Reply-To: <411772694.2205366.1308753181355.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20110622141113.GWNSB.953578.imail@fed1rmwml4101>

Its a press fit.  Grab with pliers and pull with a gently rotating motion.  Most likely they are rusty and will snap off.
Then you drill them out and get a replacement kit from any Mustang supplier.

Erich
---- George Re <mgman71 at comcast.net> wrote: 
> I am just about to send my manifolds out for coating but have run into a small problem. There are 2 tubes on the Right manifold one goes to the choke and one goes to the bottom of the air cleaner HOW do you remove the tube (the one that goes to the bottom of the cleaner) from the manifold? I have no idea and can not find any info on it. Thanks in advance 
> 
> George Re 
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From cmccann at lwpb.com  Wed Jun 22 12:44:01 2011
From: cmccann at lwpb.com (Cullen McCann)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:44:01 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] [non Tiger] - Spectre 341 Challenge Ford Maverick
In-Reply-To: <447585.61171.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <82531.29158.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<447585.61171.qm@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4419C83983D4FB47AADD684709064733768D15CCCC@LWPB-EX1.LWPB.local>

Thanks Sandy,

I enjoyed that....and now all of the sudden I find myself caught in Carcast
black hole...I can't escape!

I'm at work but I have it rolling in the back ground listening to you and Adam
living the dream....thanks for the contribution.

Cullen
1452 LROFE project






Subject: [Tigers] [non Tiger] - Spectre 341 Challenge Ford Maverick

For those that might enjoy watching what the 341 Challenge is from a Ford
Maverick here are a couple of videos of me hacking the road.


It is not a
Ford engine as you can tell by the sound think Fast and Furious...

Enjoy
Sandy
In Car Camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8ZG5pUm_H4

Hood Camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpTYmBSTPuw&feature=relmfu



----- Original
Message ----
From: Tony Somebody <achd73 at yahoo.com>
To: David or Gary Franchi
<wwwdg at webtv.net>
Cc: Beamclub <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, June 21,
2011 9:03:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tony Tiger List

David- some forigner
stole my yahoo account. Im sorry for you and other
members receiving email
with my name requesting money. I sure hope no one sent
any funds.
Keep on
Tigering, Tony in Benton, IL.

--- On Mon, 6/13/11, David or Gary Franchi
<wwwdg at webtv.net> wrote:

> From: David or Gary Franchi <wwwdg at webtv.net>
>
Subject: Tony Tiger List
> To: achd73 at yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, June 13, 2011,
9:49 AM
> Hi Tony, Received this attached
> e-mail with your name but with a
slightly different e-mail
> (acchd73, not achd73). You might have a virus or?
>
> David Franchi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Somebody
>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:29 AM
> To: achd73 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Hi
>
>
Hope you get this on time, sorry I didn't inform you about
> my trip in Spain
for a Program, I'm presently in Madrid and
> am having some difficulties here
because i  misplaced
> my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and
other
> valuable things were kept. presently  i have limited
> access to
internet, I will like you to assist  me with
> a loan of 2,600 Euros to
sort-out my hotel bills and to get
> myself back home.
>
> I have spoken to
the embassy here but they are not
> responding to the matter effectively, I
will appreciate
> whatever you can afford to assist me with, I'll Refund
>
the  money back to you as soon as I return, let me know
> if you can be of any
help. I don't have a phone where I can
> be reached. Please let me know
immediately.
>
> Best regards
>    Tony
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From mark.rense at ge.com  Wed Jun 22 15:36:58 2011
From: mark.rense at ge.com (Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light))
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:36:58 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Mid-Ohio Vintage Races
Message-ID: <D9A0D0B7EA17564892B2C3A1AB0BB72A09A86C7C@CINMLVEM20.e2k.ad.ge.com>

Anyone going to the Vintage GP at Mid-Ohio this weekend? Haven't been in
a few years, planning to be there on Saturday for British Car show.



Bugz

From wwwdg at webtv.net  Wed Jun 22 19:58:20 2011
From: wwwdg at webtv.net (David or Gary Franchi)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:58:20 GMT
Subject: [Tigers] Exhaust Manifold question
Message-ID: <BAY148-ds76673665CDD6F088A5B72AD530@phx.gbl>

Since you have it off, I would heat the area around the tube with a torch, then try and wiggle the tubes loose.
David


-----Original Message-----
From: e.coiner at cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Tigers, George Re
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Exhaust Manifold question

Its a press fit.  Grab with pliers and pull with a gently rotating motion.  Most likely they are rusty and will snap off.
Then you drill them out and get a replacement kit from any Mustang supplier.

Erich
---- George Re <mgman71 at comcast.net> wrote: 
> I am just about to send my manifolds out for coating but have run into a small problem. There are 2 tubes on the Right manifold one goes to the choke and one goes to the bottom of the air cleaner HOW do you remove the tube (the one that goes to the bottom of the cleaner) from the manifold? I have no idea and can not find any info on it. Thanks in advance 
> 
> George Re 
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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Thu Jun 23 16:18:53 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:18:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] British Car Day, Brookline, MA
Message-ID: <000001cc31f3$8c803c50$6501a8c0@Brennan>

Hey, Folks!  It's time for British Car Day in Brookline MA again!
Sunday, June 26!  They say 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM, but we know the cars
start rolling in much earlier.  Some say the Jaguar guys get there
before dawn.

 

But anyway, here are the details:

 

 
<http://www.larzanderson.org/Topics/Topic.cfm?TopicName=Show%20Event&Cal
endarEventId=135>
http://www.larzanderson.org/Topics/Topic.cfm?TopicName=Show%20Event&Cale
ndarEventId=135

 

As usual, TE/AE is helping run it, directing parking this year.  We
could always use another helper or two, so come early if you can.  Come
early anyway, the weather is supposed to be good, so the place should be
packed!  Join the 200 or more British cars dripping oil on the museum
lawn!

 

See you there!

 

Stu Brennan

TE/AE New England Regional Rep.

From stubrennan at comcast.net  Thu Jun 23 18:15:29 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:15:29 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
Message-ID: <000b01cc3203$d37172e0$6501a8c0@Brennan>

So I'm just finishing up a brake job on the Tiger.  All new rubber bits
in the master, slaves and calipers.  I got it all back together and
bled, no leaks yet.  I had to grind down the sides of the pads until
they fit loosely in the calipers. No surprise there, I've had to do this
on my Subaru, the Buick, etc..  So I know the pads are free vs the
calipers.  But there is still significant drag on the disks when the
brakes are off.  The culprits seem to be the outer seals on the pistons.
They bulge up enough that they are pushing on the new pads, causing the
drag.  The drag is high enough that I suspect that I won't get out of
town before the disks are glowing red.
 
Has anyone else encountered this?  Does it go away quickly once they
heat up the first time?  Has anyone encountered pads that are too thick?
Any ideas out there?  I'll probably drive it for the first time with the
new brakes tomorrow night or Saturday, with a show to go to Sunday...
And I'd hate to put the old pads back in.
 
Stu

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Thu Jun 23 21:14:37 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:14:37 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <000b01cc3203$d37172e0$6501a8c0@Brennan>
References: <000b01cc3203$d37172e0$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED7A1039@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

I haven't worked on those calipers in a while, but is it possible that the
seals aren't fully seated in the caliper body groove, or that they're somehow
folded the wrong way? They should normally accordion such that they fit flush
or slightly below the piston face.

Good luck,
Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stu Brennan
> Sent: June 23, 2011 6:15 PM
> To: Tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
>
> So I'm just finishing up a brake job on the Tiger.  All new rubber bits
> in the master, slaves and calipers.  I got it all back together and
> bled, no leaks yet.  I had to grind down the sides of the pads until
> they fit loosely in the calipers. No surprise there, I've had to do
> this
> on my Subaru, the Buick, etc..  So I know the pads are free vs the
> calipers.  But there is still significant drag on the disks when the
> brakes are off.  The culprits seem to be the outer seals on the
> pistons.
> They bulge up enough that they are pushing on the new pads, causing the
> drag.  The drag is high enough that I suspect that I won't get out of
> town before the disks are glowing red.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this?  Does it go away quickly once they
> heat up the first time?  Has anyone encountered pads that are too
> thick?
> Any ideas out there?  I'll probably drive it for the first time with
> the
> new brakes tomorrow night or Saturday, with a show to go to Sunday...
> And I'd hate to put the old pads back in.
>
> Stu
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Fri Jun 24 05:57:05 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:57:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
Message-ID: <3d376.dadeab4.3b35d590@aol.com>

I would think that if it was just the seals you should  be able to pry the 
pads back with some device.  If you can't do that then  if might be the 
pistons pushing against the seals that is causing the problem. I  would try 
draining some fluid from one bleeder and see if it releases.  At  least this 
would tell you that the problem is indeed with the caliper and not  farther up 
the system somewhere.
M
 
 
In a message dated 6/24/2011 12:12:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Theo.Smit at dynastream.com writes:

I  haven't worked on those calipers in a while, but is it possible that  the
seals aren't fully seated in the caliper body groove, or that they're  
somehow
folded the wrong way? They should normally accordion such that they  fit 
flush
or slightly below the piston face.

Good  luck,
Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From:  tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net]  On Behalf Of Stu Brennan
> Sent: June 23, 2011 6:15 PM
> To:  Tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
>
>  So I'm just finishing up a brake job on the Tiger.  All new rubber  bits
> in the master, slaves and calipers.  I got it all back  together and
> bled, no leaks yet.  I had to grind down the sides  of the pads until
> they fit loosely in the calipers. No surprise there,  I've had to do
> this
> on my Subaru, the Buick, etc..  So I  know the pads are free vs the
> calipers.  But there is still  significant drag on the disks when the
> brakes are off.  The  culprits seem to be the outer seals on the
> pistons.
> They bulge  up enough that they are pushing on the new pads, causing the
>  drag.  The drag is high enough that I suspect that I won't get out  of
> town before the disks are glowing red.
>
> Has anyone  else encountered this?  Does it go away quickly once they
> heat up  the first time?  Has anyone encountered pads that are too
>  thick?
> Any ideas out there?  I'll probably drive it for the first  time with
> the
> new brakes tomorrow night or Saturday, with a  show to go to Sunday...
> And I'd hate to put the old pads back  in.
>
> Stu
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 24 09:20:28 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:20:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
In-Reply-To: <3d376.dadeab4.3b35d590@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1308928828.2473.YahooMailClassic@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Im getting in on this thread late, so IF I sound off the wall- well I may well
be BUT one of the problems when running a servo is it doesnt release(amongest
other things- like sucking the fluid into the intsake). To kill the vaccum on
the servo, kill the engine and pump the brakes several times.IF this releases
the drag, then the problem is in the servo. I once drove an Alpine 300 miles
using the emergency brake and downshifting unless I just had to use the pedal
and afterwards I would shut the engine off, pump the he-- out of the brakes to
release the "hung on" brakes and then return to normal driving. I could be way
off base but I felt it worth passing on.
TtT


> >  So I'm just finishing up a brake job on the
> Tiger.  All new rubber  bits
> > in the master, slaves and calipers.  I got it all
> back  together and
> > bled, no leaks yet.  I had to grind down the
> sides  of the pads until
> > they fit loosely in the calipers. No surprise
> there,  I've had to do
> > this
> > on my Subaru, the Buick, etc..  So I  know
> the pads are free vs the
> > calipers.  But there is still  significant
> drag on the disks when the
> > brakes are off.  The  culprits seem to be
> the outer seals on the
> > pistons.
> > They bulge  up enough that they are pushing on
> the new pads, causing the
> >  drag.  The drag is high enough that I
> suspect that I won't get out  of
> > town before the disks are glowing red.
> >
> > Has anyone  else encountered this?  Does it
> go away quickly once they
> > heat up  the first time?  Has anyone
> encountered pads that are too
> >  thick?
> > Any ideas out there?  I'll probably drive it for
> the first  time with
> > the
> > new brakes tomorrow night or Saturday, with a 
> show to go to Sunday...
> > And I'd hate to put the old pads back  in.
> >
> > Stu
> >  _______________________________________________
> >
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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Fri Jun 24 10:42:01 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (stubrennan at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] More brakes
Message-ID: <1058696718.2451497.1308933721571.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

See below<br /><br />Sent from Xfinity Mobile<br /><br />

From mai65tai at sonic.net  Fri Jun 24 12:03:12 2011
From: mai65tai at sonic.net (John Stithem)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger United????
Message-ID: <FEB5F81A-1DE8-4B42-ACBD-540FB32B7798@sonic.net>

How come there haven't been any postings about Tigers United?
Who won Lord Rootes?
Who won the Howie?
Most Popular?
Pictures?
Etc.

John Stithem

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Fri Jun 24 14:27:40 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:27:40 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger United????
References: <FEB5F81A-1DE8-4B42-ACBD-540FB32B7798@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <81CE970AC016427F82C3EAB3A07D2D05@student2>

Some information (pictures) here.

http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?p=2389#post2389


> How come there haven't been any postings about Tigers United?
> Who won Lord Rootes?
> Who won the Howie?
> Most Popular?
> Pictures?
> Etc.
> 
> John Stithem

From twotigers at verizon.net  Fri Jun 24 15:05:06 2011
From: twotigers at verizon.net (Kirk Smith)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:05:06 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger United????
In-Reply-To: <FEB5F81A-1DE8-4B42-ACBD-540FB32B7798@sonic.net>
References: <FEB5F81A-1DE8-4B42-ACBD-540FB32B7798@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <000001cc32b2$655db7f0$301927d0$@net>

I didn't write anything down, this is just from memory-

Lord Rootes- Mike Michels

Howie- (?) Dale's latest resto...the blue car with the Dunlop wheels? 

Popular- Paul Paretti

There are some pictures on the CAT website...stay tuned for the next issue
of Tiger Tales!


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of John Stithem
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:03 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger United????

How come there haven't been any postings about Tigers United?
Who won Lord Rootes?
Who won the Howie?
Most Popular?
Pictures?
Etc.

John Stithem
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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Fri Jun 24 17:51:34 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:51:34 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 2, this time with text
Message-ID: <000001cc32c9$aa924630$6501a8c0@Brennan>

Thanks for all the comments, guys.  Sorry about the mostly blank message
earlier.  I've got this new smart phone, and I'm still getting used to
it...   And I wasn't about to try typing all that with my thumbs again
 
More info now, anyway.
 
I'm pretty sure the problem is the outer boots on the pistons.  I had to
squish them down to get the pads in,  The pistons were all the way in.  
 
The pistons and seals were well lubricated with DOT5 when they went in,
Girling rubber grease inside the boot, etc.  The pistons slid all the
way to the bottom with only the expected amount of force.  And no leaks,
so I'm pretty sure the seals are correctly seated.
 
Once I got the pads in I tried turning the wheels, and thats when I
noticed the excessive drag, no surprise considering how much I had to
squish the boots.  There was  no fluid or pressure in the system, no
booster issue, the car hadn't run for a couple weeks, so no vaccuum.  I
had pre fitted the pads, grinding a bit off the backing plates so that
they would be free in the calipers.
 
When I got home tonight I drove it up and down the street, a mile or so
each way.  A mile out, my IR thermometer said the disks were around
150F, about as hot as you would want to touch.  A mile back, almost no
brake use, and the temps were about the same.  The brakes and booster
work OK, though I probably need another round of bleeding and readjust
the rears, but otherwise OK.  I'm sure this is a lot warmer than the
disks would have been before the rebuild.  
 
I'll try a longer drive tomorrow.  I still have to old thinner pads, and
I'll pop those back in if I have any worries for getting to the show on
Sunday.
 
Stu
 
 
 
Stu

From allanballard at att.net  Sat Jun 25 02:32:49 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:32:49 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
Message-ID: <D0FCA9AF-12EC-4654-8D58-66A1380FDF9B@att.net>

Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger

From Carmods at aol.com  Sat Jun 25 08:18:01 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:18:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
Message-ID: <77318.2d8dc6a0.3b374819@aol.com>

allanballard at att.net writes:

Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug  nuts?


Hi Allen,
 
The lug nuts are 7/16" X 20.
 
John Logan

From allanballard at att.net  Sat Jun 25 08:31:34 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (allanballard at att.net)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:31:34 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
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Thanks - great to see the List working again.

Allan
Mk1a Tiger

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Allan
>    7/16 x 20
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:33 AM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
> 
> 
> Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
> 
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Sat Jun 25 11:19:03 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:19:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
In-Reply-To: <D3A909C2-F6F2-42E1-9947-32523DF3C1A2@att.net>
Message-ID: <1545849919.7364.1309022343543.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Also, if you are looking to replace stock wheel nuts, remenber that the
conical angle on the factory nuts is different from what is on B a standard A
merican 7/16-20 lug nut.B B  An American 7/16 nut typically will have a 60
degree angle to it that will not seat properly on the stock wheel.



Gene



----- Original Message -----


From: allanballard at att.net
To: "<rfraser at bluefrog.com>" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: "<tigers at autox.team.net>" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:31:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size

Thanks - great to see the List working again.

Allan
Mk1a Tiger

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Allan
> B  B 7/16 x 20
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:33 AM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
>
>
> Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
>
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
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From allanballard at att.net  Sat Jun 25 13:17:34 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:34 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
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Thanks folks,

I'll check that. I replaced with O'Reillys chrome lugs.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Also, if you are looking to replace stock wheel nuts, remenber that the
conical angle on the factory nuts is different from what is on a standard
American 7/16-20 lug nut.   An American 7/16 nut typically will have a 60
degree angle to it that will not seat properly on the stock wheel.
>
> Gene
>
> From: allanballard at att.net
> To: "<rfraser at bluefrog.com>" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: "<tigers at autox.team.net>" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:31:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
>
> Thanks - great to see the List working again.
>
> Allan
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> > Allan
> >    7/16 x 20
> >
> > Ron Fraser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:33 AM
> > To: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
> >
> > Allan Ballard
> > Mk1a Tiger
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From mmichels at socal.rr.com  Sat Jun 25 16:50:05 2011
From: mmichels at socal.rr.com (Mike Michels)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:50:05 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
In-Reply-To: <F1EC0DE5-86FE-4F1E-8A8E-3A013B4A23F2@att.net>
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	<F1EC0DE5-86FE-4F1E-8A8E-3A013B4A23F2@att.net>
Message-ID: <001301cc338a$3a7c2660$af747320$@rr.com>

So what's the correct taper angle and where does one find them? 

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:18 PM
To: genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size

Thanks folks,

I'll check that. I replaced with O'Reillys chrome lugs.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Also, if you are looking to replace stock wheel nuts, remenber that the
conical angle on the factory nuts is different from what is on a standard
American 7/16-20 lug nut.   An American 7/16 nut typically will have a 60
degree angle to it that will not seat properly on the stock wheel.
>
> Gene
>
> From: allanballard at att.net
> To: "<rfraser at bluefrog.com>" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: "<tigers at autox.team.net>" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:31:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
>
> Thanks - great to see the List working again.
>
> Allan
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> > Allan
> >    7/16 x 20
> >
> > Ron Fraser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:33 AM
> > To: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
> >
> > Allan Ballard
> > Mk1a Tiger
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Sat Jun 25 18:47:27 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:47:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
In-Reply-To: <001301cc338a$3a7c2660$af747320$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <1074024873.17056.1309049247351.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Per my crude attempt at measuring, I would say the taper on a stock wheel nut
is somewhere in the range of 107 degrees toB  110 degrees. That is the angle
between one angled side of the wheel mating surface B through the nut body to
the other angled side. In the past, I have been able to get replacement wheel
studs and nuts from Sunbeam Specialties.B Agai n, we are talking about stock
lug nuts and stock 13 inch steel wheels.



Hope that helps. Gene



----- Original Message -----


From: "Mike Michels" <mmichels at socal.rr.com>
To: "Allan Ballard" <allanballard at att.net>, genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:50:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size

So what's the correct taper angle and where does one find them?

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:18 PM
To: genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size

Thanks folks,

I'll check that. I replaced with O'Reillys chrome lugs.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Also, if you are looking to replace stock wheel nuts, remenber that the
conical angle on the factory nuts is different from what is on a standard
American 7/16-20 lug nut. B  An American 7/16 nut typically will have a 60
degree angle to it that will not seat properly on the stock wheel.
>
> Gene
>
> From: allanballard at att.net
> To: "<rfraser at bluefrog.com>" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: "<tigers at autox.team.net>" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:31:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
>
> Thanks - great to see the List working again.
>
> Allan
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> > Allan
> > B  B 7/16 x 20
> >
> > Ron Fraser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:33 AM
> > To: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
> >
> > Allan Ballard
> > Mk1a Tiger
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From laurin212 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 25 19:52:24 2011
From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:52:24 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
In-Reply-To: <D0FCA9AF-12EC-4654-8D58-66A1380FDF9B@att.net>
References: <D0FCA9AF-12EC-4654-8D58-66A1380FDF9B@att.net>
Message-ID: <516498A2-214F-40A5-A80D-092BE173F3CD@yahoo.com>

not off hand, but SS carries both, the style for LAT 70s and the regular
style.  they have different mating faces.


On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Allan Ballard wrote:

> Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
>
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger

From mmichels at socal.rr.com  Sat Jun 25 20:11:06 2011
From: mmichels at socal.rr.com (Mike Michels)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:11:06 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
In-Reply-To: <1074024873.17056.1309049247351.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <001301cc338a$3a7c2660$af747320$@rr.com>
	<1074024873.17056.1309049247351.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002501cc33a6$4f24c7e0$ed6e57a0$@rr.com>

Thanks. Good info to know. I have the original stock wheels from the PO, but
never mounted them since current lugs are for alloys. I may do it just for
curiosity sake.



From: genepadgett at comcast.net [mailto:genepadgett at comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:47 PM
To: Mike Michels
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net; Allan Ballard
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size



Per my crude attempt at measuring, I would say the taper on a stock wheel nut
is somewhere in the range of 107 degrees to 110 degrees.That is the angle
between one angled side of the wheel mating surface through the nut body to
the other angled side. In the past, I have been able to get replacement wheel
studs and nuts from Sunbeam Specialties. Again, we are talking about stock lug
nuts and stock 13 inch steel wheels.



Hope that helps. Gene

  _____

From: "Mike Michels" <mmichels at socal.rr.com>
To: "Allan Ballard" <allanballard at att.net>, genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:50:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size

So what's the correct taper angle and where does one find them?

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:18 PM
To: genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size

Thanks folks,

I'll check that. I replaced with O'Reillys chrome lugs.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Also, if you are looking to replace stock wheel nuts, remenber that the
conical angle on the factory nuts is different from what is on a standard
American 7/16-20 lug nut.   An American 7/16 nut typically will have a 60
degree angle to it that will not seat properly on the stock wheel.
>
> Gene
>
> From: allanballard at att.net
> To: "<rfraser at bluefrog.com>" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: "<tigers at autox.team.net>" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:31:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
>
> Thanks - great to see the List working again.
>
> Allan
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> > Allan
> >    7/16 x 20
> >
> > Ron Fraser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:33 AM
> > To: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?
> >
> > Allan Ballard
> > Mk1a Tiger
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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Sun Jun 26 12:58:20 2011
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (Graham Harlowe)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:58:20 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
Message-ID: <000301cc3433$04d7a6c0$0e86f440$@net>

Listers -

I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
crossover tube and the fuel pump.   I have an aftermarket fuel pump that's
mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well.  The current
configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect to
the gas tank crossover tube.  The line is damaged and I'd like to replace
it.  Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
nipple?  Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to the
crossover tube?  

Thanks as always, 

Graham Harlowe
B382001466

From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 17:45:39 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:45:39 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
Message-ID: <BANLkTin7vnfVSJbGhOTc4Kxc6dJY1smcyw@mail.gmail.com>

I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been removed
from the list and cant get back on. I am getting the occasional post
through.. how many people are still online?

-- 
Regards

Michael King

From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Mon Jun 27 18:01:23 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:01:23 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin7vnfVSJbGhOTc4Kxc6dJY1smcyw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6ED4878DAC0743BAAB8CDBEE600135B2@BUCK>

Good here.
bt

--------------------------------------------------
From: "michael king" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 4:45 PM
To: "Tiger Talk List Tiger" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list

> I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been removed
> from the list and cant get back on. I am getting the occasional post
> through.. how many people are still online?
>
> -- 
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>
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Mon Jun 27 18:16:18 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:16:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin7vnfVSJbGhOTc4Kxc6dJY1smcyw@mail.gmail.com>
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I am back on. Gene ----- Original Message -----


From: "michael king" <michael.s.king at gmail.com> 
To: "Tiger Talk List Tiger" <tigers at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:45:39 PM 
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list 

I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been removed 
from the list and cant get back on. I am getting the occasional post 
through.. how many people are still online? 

-- 
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Michael King 
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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Mon Jun 27 18:46:29 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:46:29 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
Message-ID: <000001cc352c$d676e110$6501a8c0@Brennan>

OK, here's how the weekend went with my brakes.  Saturday morning I went
for another drive, checking the temperatures of the disks att he same
points little brake use.  At about a mile and a half, I'm not sure how
hot one disk was, it was "off scale high" on my IR thermometer.  The
other was right around 200F.

 

At home, I pulled the wheels again.  The pads could easily be pushed
back by hand.  OK, screwdriver, they were still a bit toasty.  But when
released, they would pop right back against the disks, the outer boots
on the pistons pushing them back into position.

 

I reinstalled my old thinner pads, and they were fine, the pads would
push back and stay back.  Repeating the test drive, things were fine,
the disks got a little warm, but stabilized well below boiling.  I drove
several miles, again no overheating.

 

FYI, the new pads are about 0.617" thick, including the backing plates.
The  old ones appear to have just over half the friction material
thickness.

 

Sunday, driving into Brookline, just under an hour, again no problems.
No smoke and flames, or even bad smells when I got there.

 

So the conclusion is that my outer rubber seal on the caliper pistons do
not lay flat enough to allow new pads to be pushed back by the slight
disk wobble,  and stay back far enough to not seriously rub the disks.  

 

These boots came from VB, but  before you say "See, you should have
known better!",  I compared them to an unused set I got from Rick a
bunch of years back, but got lost in  my spares until they were too old
to use.  They were shaped about the same, Rick's not particularly flat,
either.

 

Has anyone else had a problem with this, overheating disks after a brake
rebuild?  Where did you get YOUR rubber bits for the calipers?

 

Stu

From allanballard at att.net  Mon Jun 27 18:48:35 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:48:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
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I'm here but had to rejoin a couple of times.

Allan Ballard

On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:16 PM, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> I am back on. Gene ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "michael king" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> To: "Tiger Talk List Tiger" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:45:39 PM
> Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
>
> I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been removed
> from the list and cant get back on. I am getting the occasional post
> through.. how many people are still online?
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Mon Jun 27 19:10:42 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:10:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
Message-ID: <4c64c.5e22d933.3b3a8412@aol.com>

Working ok here.
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 6/27/2011 8:11:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
BuckTrippel at Verizon.net writes:

Good  here.
bt

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "michael king" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011  4:45 PM
To: "Tiger Talk List Tiger"  <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the  list

> I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been  removed
> from the list and cant get back on. I am getting the  occasional post
> through.. how many people are still  online?
>
> -- 
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>
> Michael  King
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From drjev at dccnet.com  Mon Jun 27 19:12:48 2011
From: drjev at dccnet.com (drjev at dccnet.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:12:48 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
References: <BANLkTin7vnfVSJbGhOTc4Kxc6dJY1smcyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E092A90.000001.03612@USER-E4E419A9CB>

We are still here, tho' it has been a slow week ?
JV 
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: michael king
Date: 6/27/2011 4:57:37 PM
To: Tiger Talk List Tiger
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
 
I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been removed
from the list and cant get back on. I am getting the occasional post
through.. how many people are still online?
 
--
Regards
 
Michael King
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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Mon Jun 27 20:39:26 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:39:26 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
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Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED82460E@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

You can see in general who's on the list by going to this link:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers

Halfway down the page there's a section titled 'Tigers Subscribers' where you
can enter your email address and the password that the list manager mails to
you every month. Then click 'visit subscriber list'.

Mark has had some server issues that affected a number of mailing lists. The
list membership may have recently been restored from an older copy - some
email addresses shown in the list are no longer used by the list members, and
the mailman list manager seems to have a configuration error where it rejects
some subscription requests.

Hopefully the situation can be restored fully in the near future.

Cheers,
Theo



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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jun 27 20:46:32 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:46:32 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list
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Michael
	I think autox is still having some glitches.   Hopefully they will
be corrected in the near future.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:46 PM
To: Tiger Talk List Tiger
Subject: [Tigers] bouncing the list


I hear listers on the various boards saying they have been removed from the
list and cant get back on. I am getting the occasional post through.. how
many people are still online?

-- 
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Michael King
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jun 27 21:36:14 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:36:14 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
In-Reply-To: <000001cc352c$d676e110$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <E6511DDEFD7B45D19CE0A322CD9F85C6@ronpc1>

Stu
	I measured some of the pads I have and the total thickness of pad
and backer is around .60".

I just measured a caliper with the pistons all the way in at 1.94" - 1.20
for the pads and .5" for the rotor = .024".

Your pads are .010" bigger than the distance in the caliper; if you have an
anti-squeal shim in the caliper it is even worst.

I would say that you need to thin those new pads to around .60" to have some
clearance.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Stu Brennan
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:46 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3


OK, here's how the weekend went with my brakes.  Saturday morning I went for
another drive, checking the temperatures of the disks att he same points
little brake use.  At about a mile and a half, I'm not sure how hot one disk
was, it was "off scale high" on my IR thermometer.  The other was right
around 200F.



At home, I pulled the wheels again.  The pads could easily be pushed back by
hand.  OK, screwdriver, they were still a bit toasty.  But when released,
they would pop right back against the disks, the outer boots on the pistons
pushing them back into position.



I reinstalled my old thinner pads, and they were fine, the pads would push
back and stay back.  Repeating the test drive, things were fine, the disks
got a little warm, but stabilized well below boiling.  I drove several
miles, again no overheating.



FYI, the new pads are about 0.617" thick, including the backing plates. The
old ones appear to have just over half the friction material thickness.



Sunday, driving into Brookline, just under an hour, again no problems. No
smoke and flames, or even bad smells when I got there.



So the conclusion is that my outer rubber seal on the caliper pistons do not
lay flat enough to allow new pads to be pushed back by the slight disk
wobble,  and stay back far enough to not seriously rub the disks.



These boots came from VB, but  before you say "See, you should have known
better!",  I compared them to an unused set I got from Rick a bunch of years
back, but got lost in  my spares until they were too old to use.  They were
shaped about the same, Rick's not particularly flat, either.



Has anyone else had a problem with this, overheating disks after a brake
rebuild?  Where did you get YOUR rubber bits for the calipers?



Stu
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jun 28 07:22:20 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:22:20 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
In-Reply-To: <E6511DDEFD7B45D19CE0A322CD9F85C6@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <3A0AF2EAB8144E5D8434CFBB93EAE31F@ronpc1>

My math skills failed me last night on this one; nothing like a tired mind.

There should be around .24" to clear even those thick pads and anti- squeal
shims.

I would crack open the bleeder valve and push the pistons in all the way and
measure between the piston and the rotor.
You should be seeing around .87" on both sides or a least similar numbers on
both sides of the rotor.   It is possible that the piston is not going all
the way back or the caliper is not centered for some reason.

I would not think the rubber boot has enough spring force to create a
clamping force on the pads but I've been fooled before.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:36 PM
To: 'Stu Brennan'; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brakes 3


Stu
	I measured some of the pads I have and the total thickness of pad
and backer is around .60".

I just measured a caliper with the pistons all the way in at 1.94" - 1.20
for the pads and .5" for the rotor = .024".

Your pads are .010" bigger than the distance in the caliper; if you have an
anti-squeal shim in the caliper it is even worst.

I would say that you need to thin those new pads to around .60" to have some
clearance.

Ron Fraser

From w_pierzga at msn.com  Tue Jun 28 13:37:30 2011
From: w_pierzga at msn.com (Wayne-MSN)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:37:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
In-Reply-To: <000001cc352c$d676e110$6501a8c0@Brennan>
References: <000001cc352c$d676e110$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <COL121-DS2285E51152C2D0DA792E479F560@phx.gbl>

Stu:

You might want to check the flexible brake line for the affected wheel. When
the line gets old and cranky it can act as a one-way valve. Press the brake
you force fluid into the hose, which expands under the pressure and causes
the caliper to close. But, when you release the brake the hose collapses
preventing the caliper from releasing. 

Its an odd problem that is difficult to find.

Good luck
Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Brennan [mailto:stubrennan at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:46 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3

OK, here's how the weekend went with my brakes.  Saturday morning I went
for another drive, checking the temperatures of the disks att he same
points little brake use.  At about a mile and a half, I'm not sure how
hot one disk was, it was "off scale high" on my IR thermometer.  The
other was right around 200F.

 

At home, I pulled the wheels again.  The pads could easily be pushed
back by hand.  OK, screwdriver, they were still a bit toasty.  But when
released, they would pop right back against the disks, the outer boots
on the pistons pushing them back into position.

 

I reinstalled my old thinner pads, and they were fine, the pads would
push back and stay back.  Repeating the test drive, things were fine,
the disks got a little warm, but stabilized well below boiling.  I drove
several miles, again no overheating.

 

FYI, the new pads are about 0.617" thick, including the backing plates.
The  old ones appear to have just over half the friction material
thickness.

 

Sunday, driving into Brookline, just under an hour, again no problems.
No smoke and flames, or even bad smells when I got there.

 

So the conclusion is that my outer rubber seal on the caliper pistons do
not lay flat enough to allow new pads to be pushed back by the slight
disk wobble,  and stay back far enough to not seriously rub the disks.  

 

These boots came from VB, but  before you say "See, you should have
known better!",  I compared them to an unused set I got from Rick a
bunch of years back, but got lost in  my spares until they were too old
to use.  They were shaped about the same, Rick's not particularly flat,
either.

 

Has anyone else had a problem with this, overheating disks after a brake
rebuild?  Where did you get YOUR rubber bits for the calipers?

 

Stu

From w_pierzga at msn.com  Tue Jun 28 13:51:55 2011
From: w_pierzga at msn.com (Wayne-MSN)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:51:55 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
In-Reply-To: <000301cc3433$04d7a6c0$0e86f440$@net>
References: <000301cc3433$04d7a6c0$0e86f440$@net>
Message-ID: <COL121-DS22CEB9C0342BD75BF1D4B79F560@phx.gbl>

Hi Graham:

I shouldn't give away all my secrets..... but.... Check out the following
for the proper fittings:

http://www.bresco.com/acatalog/Brake_and_Fuel_Hardware.html

Hope to see you driving the beastie soon.

Wayne


-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Harlowe [mailto:gharlowe at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:58 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting

Listers -

I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
crossover tube and the fuel pump.   I have an aftermarket fuel pump that's
mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well.  The current
configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect to
the gas tank crossover tube.  The line is damaged and I'd like to replace
it.  Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
nipple?  Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to the
crossover tube?  

Thanks as always, 

Graham Harlowe
B382001466

From milward at roadrunner.com  Tue Jun 28 16:31:55 2011
From: milward at roadrunner.com (Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:31:55 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Front Brakes
Message-ID: <59504283D3F143C0AE3F186D776A00A2@BillPC>

It would seem to me that some junk on the piston or inside the calipers is
preventing the pistons from retracting completely.

BillRo

From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk  Tue Jun 28 16:58:18 2011
From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (Jeff Howarth)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:58:18 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
Message-ID: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>

Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record 
holder:


http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html



and only $50,000

Jeff



-- 
Jeff Howarth

From stubrennan at comcast.net  Tue Jun 28 17:43:50 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:43:50 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
In-Reply-To: <E6511DDEFD7B45D19CE0A322CD9F85C6@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <000001cc35ed$3e9d76d0$6501a8c0@Brennan>

Hi Ron:

There is some clearance between a fully retracted piston and the pad.  I
was able to push the pad away from the disk, and the against the the
rubber boots.  I could feel the piston retract. But as soon as I release
them they snap back against the disks, propelled by the rubber.  And I
can feel it the next time I step on the brakes, slightly longer pedal
the first time.

Stu



-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:36 PM
To: 'Stu Brennan'; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Brakes 3


Stu
	I measured some of the pads I have and the total thickness of
pad and backer is around .60".

I just measured a caliper with the pistons all the way in at 1.94" -
1.20 for the pads and .5" for the rotor = .024".

Your pads are .010" bigger than the distance in the caliper; if you have
an anti-squeal shim in the caliper it is even worst. 

I would say that you need to thin those new pads to around .60" to have
some clearance.

Ron Fraser

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Jun 28 17:53:37 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:53:37 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
Message-ID: <4E0A6981.7040604@mayfco.com>

I had the recent experience of visiting Speedy Bills motorsports museum 
in Lincoln, NE this past week or so. One of the motors I spotted was one 
that had made a hot rod issue way back in time. It was the small block 
ford with the attached overhead cam pieces, one cam for each head.  I 
know one of ya knows which motor I am talking about, but the issue is 
what kind of power did it make?  That looks just plain cool. I wonder 
how hard it would be to make something similar. I wonder if any of the 
current v8 motors (ie lexus as example) have dimensions that might allow 
the use on a small block with some work.

Place was way cool!

mayf

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Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

From CoolVT at aol.com  Tue Jun 28 19:40:33 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:40:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
Message-ID: <8591e.754fe1e6.3b3bdc91@aol.com>

Stu,
As others have suggested, it could be fluid propelling  the pistons and not 
the rubber seal doing it.  
M
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2011 8:16:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
stubrennan at comcast.net writes:

Hi  Ron:

There is some clearance between a fully retracted piston and the  pad.  I
was able to push the pad away from the disk, and the against  the the
rubber boots.  I could feel the piston retract. But as soon as  I release
them they snap back against the disks, propelled by the  rubber.  And I
can feel it the next time I step on the brakes,  slightly longer pedal
the first  time.

Stu



-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser  [mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:36 PM
To:  'Stu Brennan'; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Brakes  3


Stu
I measured some of the pads I have and the  total thickness of
pad and backer is around .60".

I just measured a  caliper with the pistons all the way in at 1.94" -
1.20 for the pads and  .5" for the rotor = .024".

Your pads are .010" bigger than the distance  in the caliper; if you have
an anti-squeal shim in the caliper it is even  worst. 

I would say that you need to thin those new pads to around .60"  to have
some clearance.

Ron  Fraser
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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Tue Jun 28 19:55:54 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ebay email warning
Message-ID: <B63A2520E0FC48009044122A0AE502F5@student2>

I know a lot of folks use Ebay on this list. So, I thought I would pass on 
this warning:

I got an email (seemingly through Ebay) that was from some guy asking me it 
the car I recently sold (which I had) was still for sale. The email looked 
just like an Ebay email does.  I was going to answer him thinking everything 
was OK because I was using the Ebay "Respond" button in the email.  This of 
course causes the Ebay "Sign In" to come up.  Normally my Ebay User Name 
comes up and all I have to do was fill in the Password. This time there was 
no User Name pre filled in the box. It seemed a bit strange and... I looked 
up to see that the internet address did not look like the Ebay sign in 
address (though it had the Ebay emblem in the address bar).

I quickly closed the page.  I was a few keystrokes away from thinking I was 
answering a legitimate Ebay question - but giving the guy my Password 
instead. A quick check of my Ebay account "In Box" showed the guy had never 
sent the email through Ebay!!!

Tom 

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jun 28 20:08:08 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:08:08 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
In-Reply-To: <000001cc35ed$3e9d76d0$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <3BB5C8BF2324421BAED68A3ADA60472D@ronpc1>

Stu
	It sounds like the pads are either not totally free to move or there
is some residual pressure in the brake system causing the heavy brake drag.

The rubber boots should not be putting that much force on the pads to cause
heavy drag.   A trapped air bubble in the boot might cause a problem but
seems kind of far out there for an answer.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Brennan [mailto:stubrennan at comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:44 PM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Brakes 3


Hi Ron:

There is some clearance between a fully retracted piston and the pad.  I was
able to push the pad away from the disk, and the against the the rubber
boots.  I could feel the piston retract. But as soon as I release them they
snap back against the disks, propelled by the rubber.  And I can feel it the
next time I step on the brakes, slightly longer pedal the first time.

Stu

From nospam at tibnet.org  Tue Jun 28 21:23:13 2011
From: nospam at tibnet.org (Greg Tibbetts)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:23:13 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ebay email warning
In-Reply-To: <B63A2520E0FC48009044122A0AE502F5@student2>
References: <B63A2520E0FC48009044122A0AE502F5@student2>
Message-ID: <00c101cc360b$e184d1e0$a48e75a0$@org>

This is really common, but the scariest thing is that many of these spoof
sites do not use copies of the logos, buttons, ads, etc., but rather have
their phony website point to the same files as the real company's website
points to.  This means their site not only looks virtually perfect, but it
will even update counters and other changing features just like the real
company's site.  Combined with the ability to spoof web addresses so that
they VERY closely resemble the real company's web address, many people are
scammed.  Gone are the days when bad translations and goofy web addresses
made it easy to tell the fakes from the real thing.  There are a number of
security products that will warn if a bad website comes up, but these are
never 100% reliable.  I'm afraid we're all going to have to become our own
best security consultants.

While I'm on the subject, one of the biggest current threats is the hacking
of corporate servers and the theft of confidential user files including
usernames and passwords.  I've personally received at least a half dozen
warnings, either by snail mail or email, from companies whose servers I
have/had a user account on, and I don't maintain that many user accounts.
It has become more important than ever to make sure that usernames and
passwords are unique for each site on which you have an account.  It is a
giant pain in the ass, but becoming more important every day.  Fortunately,
there are a number of free or very inexpensive username/password vault
programs out there that will automate the input of usernames and passwords,
so you only have to remember the password you use for the vault.  A quick
search on "password protection" or "password vault" should bring up a
selection of such programs.

It is also important to use firewalls, either software or hardware,
(preferably both) that are "packet state" firewalls.  Windows firewall is
good, but firewall protection from many of the anti-virus security companies
is better.  And we all have up to date anti-virus protection, right?

Sorry for the length, but I felt it was important.

	Stay Safe,
	Greg Tibbetts

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Thomas Witt
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:56 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Ebay email warning

I know a lot of folks use Ebay on this list. So, I thought I would pass on 
this warning:

I got an email (seemingly through Ebay) that was from some guy asking me it 
the car I recently sold (which I had) was still for sale. The email looked 
just like an Ebay email does.  I was going to answer him thinking everything

was OK because I was using the Ebay "Respond" button in the email.  This of 
course causes the Ebay "Sign In" to come up.  Normally my Ebay User Name 
comes up and all I have to do was fill in the Password. This time there was 
no User Name pre filled in the box. It seemed a bit strange and... I looked 
up to see that the internet address did not look like the Ebay sign in 
address (though it had the Ebay emblem in the address bar).

I quickly closed the page.  I was a few keystrokes away from thinking I was 
answering a legitimate Ebay question - but giving the guy my Password 
instead. A quick check of my Ebay account "In Box" showed the guy had never 
sent the email through Ebay!!!

Tom 
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From dcordray82 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 29 03:24:15 2011
From: dcordray82 at hotmail.com (Dan Cordray)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 04:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Important
Message-ID: <BLU161-w48554D1746963C3A714CF5D1590@phx.gbl>

I'm  sending  you  a  link that  we were  talking about http://goo.gl/MibEO
Hope it will  be  useful for  you

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Wed Jun 29 08:16:40 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:16:40 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <4E0A6981.7040604@mayfco.com>
References: <4E0A6981.7040604@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED8248BC@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

It might be close. the interwebs have lots of info on the bore and stroke of
the UZ engine family (3.7 x 3.4 inches for the 4.7L 2UZ-FE variant) but no
mention of the bore spacing. I'll have to pull out the tape measure and see
what it is in my truck...

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
> Sent: June 28, 2011 5:54 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
>
> I had the recent experience of visiting Speedy Bills motorsports museum
> in Lincoln, NE this past week or so. One of the motors I spotted was
> one
> that had made a hot rod issue way back in time. It was the small block
> ford with the attached overhead cam pieces, one cam for each head.  I
> know one of ya knows which motor I am talking about, but the issue is
> what kind of power did it make?  That looks just plain cool. I wonder
> how hard it would be to make something similar. I wonder if any of the
> current v8 motors (ie lexus as example) have dimensions that might
> allow
> the use on a small block with some work.
>
> Place was way cool!
>
> mayf
>
> --
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
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From dcordray82 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 29 08:53:31 2011
From: dcordray82 at hotmail.com (Dan Cordray)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:53:31 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Important
In-Reply-To: <BLU161-w48554D1746963C3A714CF5D1590@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU161-w48554D1746963C3A714CF5D1590@phx.gbl>
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I have no idea where this came from or what it is, but it did not come from
me. Delete the sucker and do not open it.

Thanks,
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> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 04:24:15 -0500
> Subject: [Tigers] Important
>
> I'm sending you a link that we were talking about http://goo.gl/MibEO
> Hope it will be useful for you
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From shutchin at netjets.com  Wed Jun 29 09:08:04 2011
From: shutchin at netjets.com (Scott Hutchinson)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:08:04 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
Message-ID: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>

Are we talking about the indy 260??

www.wrljey.com/fordv8/indy.html??


Scott Hutchinson
Pilot, NetJets Aviation 

Mobile 843.290.2805

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From v8tracker at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 10:21:07 2011
From: v8tracker at gmail.com (A. C. Tynes)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:21:07 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>
References: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>
Message-ID: <D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>

Scott,

Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting write-up
whether it's the same engine or not.

Thanks,
A. C. Tynes

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Scott Hutchinson
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:08 AM
To: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com; drmayf at mayfco.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)

Are we talking about the indy 260??

www.wrljey.com/fordv8/indy.html??


Scott Hutchinson
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From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 11:22:19 2011
From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:22:19 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>
References: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>
	<D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>

The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255 cu.
in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have one
question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?

The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168 cu. in.
I wonder how much boost they ran?

Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to mention the
center exhaust issue!

Keep on Tigering!
 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes <v8tracker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
> write-up
> whether it's the same engine or not.
>
> Thanks,
> A. C. Tynes
>
>
>
>
>



--

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 29 11:34:56 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Fw:  Importantb (vuirus within)
Message-ID: <1309368896.35739.YahooMailClassic@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

After just reading about the ebay thiefs attempt to steal a members pawword, I
copied and pasted this link into my browser and it too containex a virus.
Seems nothing is safe. My yahoo account was stolen using the same method as
the EBAY attempt. I finally did retrieve my account and all my addreses but I
had tons of Beam info in folders- ALL of which are gone. Years of saving
important Tiger and Alpine info and its gone. Be very careful when asked for
your password.
Tony

--- On Wed, 6/29/11, Dan Cordray <dcordray82 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dan Cordray <dcordray82 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Tigers] Important
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 4:24 AM
> I'm  sending  you 
> a  link that  we were  talking about http://goo.gl/MibEO
> Hope it will  be  useful for  you
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jun 29 13:15:39 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:15:39 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71349F00DEC844EA9CD32B4B11EC7613@ronpc1>

Jim
	Looking at the picture; the distributor is on the right head driven
by one of the cam shafts.   The distributor cap is there but no wires.   I
believe fuel injection is driven off the left head.

	The Ford V8 Performance Guide by Bill Carroll lists this engine @
475hp at 8000 rpm; max qualifying rpm - 9200
Max racing rpm - 8800.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Jim Sencindiver
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:22 PM
To: A. C. Tynes
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)


The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255 cu.
in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have one
question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?

The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168 cu. in. I
wonder how much boost they ran?

Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to mention the
center exhaust issue!

Keep on Tigering!
 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes <v8tracker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
> write-up whether it's the same engine or not.
>
> Thanks,
> A. C. Tynes
>
>
>
>
>



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From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Wed Jun 29 14:34:23 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:34:23 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com><D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>
	<BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87C81EFCB0B34053B223E18D3B479827@jerry>

It's on one of the driver's side camshaft facing forward.

Jerry Christopherson
9473187

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Jim Sencindiver
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:22 PM
To: A. C. Tynes
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)

The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255 cu.
in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have one
question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?

The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168 cu. in.
I wonder how much boost they ran?

Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to mention the
center exhaust issue!

Keep on Tigering!
 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes <v8tracker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
> write-up
> whether it's the same engine or not.
>
> Thanks,
> A. C. Tynes
>
>
>
>
>



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From FHSLOTH13 at aol.com  Wed Jun 29 14:44:02 2011
From: FHSLOTH13 at aol.com (FHSLOTH13 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:44:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Fw:  Importantb (vuirus within)
Message-ID: <859b6.1dd17e17.3b3ce892@aol.com>

I got that same email and did not open the link since I knew I had not  
talked to anyone and the link was not familiar.
 
Fred Baum
 
 
In a message dated 6/29/2011 1:51:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
achd73 at yahoo.com writes:

After  just reading about the ebay thiefs attempt to steal a members 
pawword,  I
copied and pasted this link into my browser and it too containex a  virus.
Seems nothing is safe. My yahoo account was stolen using the same  method as
the EBAY attempt. I finally did retrieve my account and all my  addreses 
but I
had tons of Beam info in folders- ALL of which are gone.  Years of saving
important Tiger and Alpine info and its gone. Be very  careful when asked 
for
your password.
Tony

--- On Wed, 6/29/11,  Dan Cordray <dcordray82 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dan  Cordray <dcordray82 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Tigers]  Important
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 29,  2011, 4:24 AM
> I'm  sending  you 
> a  link  that  we were  talking about http://goo.gl/MibEO
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Jun 29 15:07:21 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:07:21 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>
	<D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>
	<BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E0B9409.2020705@mayfco.com>

List, all..

Folks, I was not and am not seeking information on the 4 cam motor Ford 
ran in the Indy cars.  My question was about a prototype conversion that 
ford made to a 289 that had a single cam bolted onto the top of a head.

Now, does anyone have any info on that prototype conversion motor?  That 
was the original question.

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote:
> The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255 cu.
> in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have one
> question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?
>
> The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168 cu. in.
> I wonder how much boost they ran?
>
> Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to mention the
> center exhaust issue!
>
> Keep on Tigering!
>   Jim Sencindiver
>
> B382100451/TAC 448
> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes<v8tracker at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
>> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
>> write-up
>> whether it's the same engine or not.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> A. C. Tynes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Jun 29 15:14:12 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>
	<D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>
	<BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E0B95A4.8080509@mayfco.com>

forgot the trailer... bummer
List, all..

Folks, I was not and am not seeking information on the 4 cam motor Ford 
ran in the Indy cars.  My question was about a prototype conversion that 
ford made to a 289 that had a single cam bolted onto the top of a head.

Now, does anyone have any info on that prototype conversion motor?  That 
was the original question.

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote:
> The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255 cu.
> in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have one
> question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?
>
> The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168 cu. in.
> I wonder how much boost they ran?
>
> Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to mention the
> center exhaust issue!
>
> Keep on Tigering!
>   Jim Sencindiver
>
> B382100451/TAC 448
> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes<v8tracker at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
>> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
>> write-up
>> whether it's the same engine or not.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> A. C. Tynes

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Wed Jun 29 16:10:31 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:10:31 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <4E0B9409.2020705@mayfco.com>
References: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAA54@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com>
	<D3A5A15CED3948C788C6108AA509E5BD@DellD4700>
	<BANLkTi=SyJre7HoYyb+er1-M8eeS2hj_jw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E0B9409.2020705@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED824B33@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

There's this:
http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/exotics.html
 but you probably saw that already.

-Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
> Sent: June 29, 2011 3:07 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
>
> List, all..
>
> Folks, I was not and am not seeking information on the 4 cam motor Ford
> ran in the Indy cars.  My question was about a prototype conversion
> that
> ford made to a 289 that had a single cam bolted onto the top of a head.
>
> Now, does anyone have any info on that prototype conversion motor?
> That
> was the original question.
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 6/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote:
> > The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255
> cu.
> > in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have
> one
> > question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?
> >
> > The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168
> cu. in.
> > I wonder how much boost they ran?
> >
> > Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to
> mention the
> > center exhaust issue!
> >
> > Keep on Tigering!
> >   Jim Sencindiver
> >
> > B382100451/TAC 448
> > http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes<v8tracker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
> >> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
> >> write-up
> >> whether it's the same engine or not.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> A. C. Tynes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Jun 29 17:53:16 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:16 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
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yep, that is the one I was asking about.  any other info about it. I 
know it was in Hot Rod years ago, but I do not have the issue or even 
remember about when it was...

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/29/2011 3:10 PM, Smit, Theo wrote:
> There's this:
> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/exotics.html
>   but you probably saw that already.
>
> -Theo
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
>> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
>> Sent: June 29, 2011 3:07 PM
>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
>>
>> List, all..
>>
>> Folks, I was not and am not seeking information on the 4 cam motor Ford
>> ran in the Indy cars.  My question was about a prototype conversion
>> that
>> ford made to a 289 that had a single cam bolted onto the top of a head.
>>
>> Now, does anyone have any info on that prototype conversion motor?
>> That
>> was the original question.
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>
>>
>> On 6/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote:
>>> The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 255
>> cu.
>>> in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have
>> one
>>> question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?
>>>
>>> The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168
>> cu. in.
>>> I wonder how much boost they ran?
>>>
>>> Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to
>> mention the
>>> center exhaust issue!
>>>
>>> Keep on Tigering!
>>>    Jim Sencindiver
>>>
>>> B382100451/TAC 448
>>> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes<v8tracker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
>>>> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
>>>> write-up
>>>> whether it's the same engine or not.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> A. C. Tynes

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jun 29 19:18:44 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:18:44 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <4E0BBAEC.4030900@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <87AC867AD9BE4A4AB7AEA632A7635069@ronpc1>

Mayf
	I found an article that stated the June 1968 issue of Hot Rod
contains information about the 289 SOHC engine.
If I have that issue I can't find it at the moment.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:53 PM
To: Smit, Theo
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)


yep, that is the one I was asking about.  any other info about it. I 
know it was in Hot Rod years ago, but I do not have the issue or even 
remember about when it was...

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/29/2011 3:10 PM, Smit, Theo wrote:
> There's this:
> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/exotics.html
>   but you probably saw that already.
>
> -Theo
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- 
>> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
>> Sent: June 29, 2011 3:07 PM
>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
>>
>> List, all..
>>
>> Folks, I was not and am not seeking information on the 4 cam motor 
>> Ford ran in the Indy cars.  My question was about a prototype 
>> conversion that ford made to a 289 that had a single cam bolted onto 
>> the top of a head.
>>
>> Now, does anyone have any info on that prototype conversion motor? 
>> That was the original question.
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>
>>
>> On 6/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote:
>>> The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only 
>>> 255
>> cu.
>>> in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have
>> one
>>> question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?
>>>
>>> The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168
>> cu. in.
>>> I wonder how much boost they ran?
>>>
>>> Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to
>> mention the
>>> center exhaust issue!
>>>
>>> Keep on Tigering!
>>>    Jim Sencindiver
>>>
>>> B382100451/TAC 448 
>>> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes<v8tracker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be 
>>>> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting 
>>>> write-up whether it's the same engine or not.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> A. C. Tynes
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From scattt at verizon.net  Wed Jun 29 19:20:14 2011
From: scattt at verizon.net (Scattt)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:20:14 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
References: <000001cc352c$d676e110$6501a8c0@Brennan>
	<COL121-DS2285E51152C2D0DA792E479F560@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B85FC819EAAB49F4876E90059C656E1A@homef2683adebd>

I agree with Wayne. I have had several expierences with the rubber lines 
collapsing and holding the brakes on or causing them to drag. If the rubber 
lines have never been replaced I would highly advise you replace all three. 
You could take the line off on the bad wheel and trying to blow through it 
for a quick test!
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne-MSN" <w_pierzga at msn.com>
To: "'Stu Brennan'" <stubrennan at comcast.net>; <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brakes 3


> Stu:
>
> You might want to check the flexible brake line for the affected wheel. 
> When
> the line gets old and cranky it can act as a one-way valve. Press the 
> brake
> you force fluid into the hose, which expands under the pressure and causes
> the caliper to close. But, when you release the brake the hose collapses
> preventing the caliper from releasing.
>
> Its an odd problem that is difficult to find.
>
> Good luck
> Wayne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Brennan [mailto:stubrennan at comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:46 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
>
> OK, here's how the weekend went with my brakes.  Saturday morning I went
> for another drive, checking the temperatures of the disks att he same
> points little brake use.  At about a mile and a half, I'm not sure how
> hot one disk was, it was "off scale high" on my IR thermometer.  The
> other was right around 200F.
>
>
>
> At home, I pulled the wheels again.  The pads could easily be pushed
> back by hand.  OK, screwdriver, they were still a bit toasty.  But when
> released, they would pop right back against the disks, the outer boots
> on the pistons pushing them back into position.
>
>
>
> I reinstalled my old thinner pads, and they were fine, the pads would
> push back and stay back.  Repeating the test drive, things were fine,
> the disks got a little warm, but stabilized well below boiling.  I drove
> several miles, again no overheating.
>
>
>
> FYI, the new pads are about 0.617" thick, including the backing plates.
> The  old ones appear to have just over half the friction material
> thickness.
>
>
>
> Sunday, driving into Brookline, just under an hour, again no problems.
> No smoke and flames, or even bad smells when I got there.
>
>
>
> So the conclusion is that my outer rubber seal on the caliper pistons do
> not lay flat enough to allow new pads to be pushed back by the slight
> disk wobble,  and stay back far enough to not seriously rub the disks.
>
>
>
> These boots came from VB, but  before you say "See, you should have
> known better!",  I compared them to an unused set I got from Rick a
> bunch of years back, but got lost in  my spares until they were too old
> to use.  They were shaped about the same, Rick's not particularly flat,
> either.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else had a problem with this, overheating disks after a brake
> rebuild?  Where did you get YOUR rubber bits for the calipers?
>
>
>
> Stu
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Jun 29 19:57:50 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:57:50 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
In-Reply-To: <87AC867AD9BE4A4AB7AEA632A7635069@ronpc1>
References: <87AC867AD9BE4A4AB7AEA632A7635069@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <4E0BD81E.1000607@mayfco.com>

I'll see if I can scare up the article.

Many thanks, as this was what I was hoping for!

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/29/2011 6:18 PM,  Ron Fraser wrote:
> Mayf
> 	I found an article that stated the June 1968 issue of Hot Rod
> contains information about the 289 SOHC engine.
> If I have that issue I can't find it at the moment.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:53 PM
> To: Smit, Theo
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
>
>
> yep, that is the one I was asking about.  any other info about it. I
> know it was in Hot Rod years ago, but I do not have the issue or even
> remember about when it was...
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 6/29/2011 3:10 PM, Smit, Theo wrote:
>> There's this:
>> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/exotics.html
>>    but you probably saw that already.
>>
>> -Theo
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
>>> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
>>> Sent: June 29, 2011 3:07 PM
>>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford Small Block OHC Motor (prototype)
>>>
>>> List, all..
>>>
>>> Folks, I was not and am not seeking information on the 4 cam motor
>>> Ford ran in the Indy cars.  My question was about a prototype
>>> conversion that ford made to a 289 that had a single cam bolted onto
>>> the top of a head.
>>>
>>> Now, does anyone have any info on that prototype conversion motor?
>>> That was the original question.
>>>
>>> mayf
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>> drmayf
>>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote:
>>>> The 1964 DOHC version is quite impressive:  over 425 HP from only
>>>> 255
>>> cu.
>>>> in. and weighing just over 400 lbs!  Looking at the photos, I have
>>> one
>>>> question about the 1964 engine:  Where's the distributor?
>>>>
>>>> The 1968 turbo version is equally impressive: 750 HP from only 168
>>> cu. in.
>>>> I wonder how much boost they ran?
>>>>
>>>> Looks like both of them are too wide to fit in a Tiger, not to
>>> mention the
>>>> center exhaust issue!
>>>>
>>>> Keep on Tigering!
>>>>     Jim Sencindiver
>>>>
>>>> B382100451/TAC 448
>>>> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM, A. C. Tynes<v8tracker at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a small typo in the URL - it should be
>>>>> http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/indy.html.  That's a very interesting
>>>>> write-up whether it's the same engine or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> A. C. Tynes
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From lpaulick1 at verizon.net  Thu Jun 30 06:30:33 2011
From: lpaulick1 at verizon.net (Larry Paulick)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:30:33 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Test
Message-ID: <4E0C6C69.8050009@verizon.net>

test for list.

thanks

Larry

From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Thu Jun 30 10:29:34 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:29:34 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
In-Reply-To: <B85FC819EAAB49F4876E90059C656E1A@homef2683adebd>
References: <000001cc352c$d676e110$6501a8c0@Brennan><COL121-DS2285E51152C2D0DA792E479F560@phx.gbl>
	<B85FC819EAAB49F4876E90059C656E1A@homef2683adebd>
Message-ID: <FE0D4B9D0B104BA5B72A5DFB631D1BDB@jerry>

The SS lines that SS sells work very well.  You will notice a much firmer
peddle when you change over.

Jerry Christopherson
9473187

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Scattt
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:20 PM
To: Wayne-MSN; 'Stu Brennan'; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brakes 3

I agree with Wayne. I have had several expierences with the rubber lines 
collapsing and holding the brakes on or causing them to drag. If the rubber 
lines have never been replaced I would highly advise you replace all three. 
You could take the line off on the bad wheel and trying to blow through it 
for a quick test!
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne-MSN" <w_pierzga at msn.com>
To: "'Stu Brennan'" <stubrennan at comcast.net>; <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brakes 3


> Stu:
>
> You might want to check the flexible brake line for the affected wheel. 
> When
> the line gets old and cranky it can act as a one-way valve. Press the 
> brake
> you force fluid into the hose, which expands under the pressure and causes
> the caliper to close. But, when you release the brake the hose collapses
> preventing the caliper from releasing.
>
> Its an odd problem that is difficult to find.
>
> Good luck
> Wayne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Brennan [mailto:stubrennan at comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:46 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Brakes 3
>
> OK, here's how the weekend went with my brakes.  Saturday morning I went
> for another drive, checking the temperatures of the disks att he same
> points little brake use.  At about a mile and a half, I'm not sure how
> hot one disk was, it was "off scale high" on my IR thermometer.  The
> other was right around 200F.
>
>
>
> At home, I pulled the wheels again.  The pads could easily be pushed
> back by hand.  OK, screwdriver, they were still a bit toasty.  But when
> released, they would pop right back against the disks, the outer boots
> on the pistons pushing them back into position.
>
>
>
> I reinstalled my old thinner pads, and they were fine, the pads would
> push back and stay back.  Repeating the test drive, things were fine,
> the disks got a little warm, but stabilized well below boiling.  I drove
> several miles, again no overheating.
>
>
>
> FYI, the new pads are about 0.617" thick, including the backing plates.
> The  old ones appear to have just over half the friction material
> thickness.
>
>
>
> Sunday, driving into Brookline, just under an hour, again no problems.
> No smoke and flames, or even bad smells when I got there.
>
>
>
> So the conclusion is that my outer rubber seal on the caliper pistons do
> not lay flat enough to allow new pads to be pushed back by the slight
> disk wobble,  and stay back far enough to not seriously rub the disks.
>
>
>
> These boots came from VB, but  before you say "See, you should have
> known better!",  I compared them to an unused set I got from Rick a
> bunch of years back, but got lost in  my spares until they were too old
> to use.  They were shaped about the same, Rick's not particularly flat,
> either.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else had a problem with this, overheating disks after a brake
> rebuild?  Where did you get YOUR rubber bits for the calipers?
>
>
>
> Stu
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From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  1 01:27:26 2011
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:27:26 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Pentastar
In-Reply-To: <006401cc10e9$f5361b50$dfa251f0$@net>
Message-ID: <803540.36949.qm@web112506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sorry for the bother, but this is the last email I received from the list.
Please check my list status & renew if necessary.
 
Thanks
Brian

--- On Thu, 5/12/11, jim <jim at island.net> wrote:


From: jim <jim at island.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Pentastar
To: "'Tod Brown'" <todbrown at roadrunner.com>, tigers at autox.team.net,
CoolVT at aol.com
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:17 PM


An old co-worker told me that back in the day, he bought a brand new MKII in
Ontario... and his story was that it was sitting right beside a brand new
Mustang convertible... and he chose the Sunbeam after driving both. He can't
recall what kind of dealership it was though... poor guy broke his leg 2
years later and as his wife couldn't drive a standard... he promptly traded
it in on a (automatic) station wagon... such is life !! He was quite
surprised when I told him how few were actually made !


Jim
B382000446


-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tod Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:11 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net; CoolVT at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Pentastar

Mark:

I bought my Tiger in Oct '66 from an independent dealer in NY state, so
Chrysler dealers were not the only source.  My MkIA (B382002384LRXFE)
had a pentastar on it that I have since removed.  It was, ironically,
the only Mopar part on the car, I believe.

Tod
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From allanballard at att.net  Thu Jun  2 18:03:21 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:03:21 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] lug nut thread
In-Reply-To: <74778.88123.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <74778.88123.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <68EA696D-7704-4534-B588-24B290B18C96@att.net>

Does anyone have the thread size for Tiger lug nuts?

Thanks in advance,

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jun  3 17:48:46 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:48:46 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] test
In-Reply-To: <BD44777D-0CA5-4356-944E-E3091632EAB5@shaw.ca>
References: <BD44777D-0CA5-4356-944E-E3091632EAB5@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <47759CAC-50FF-4C0F-93A7-B01894AE0EE1@att.net>

Is the list down?

Allan Ballard
Mk1aTiger

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jun  7 11:06:46 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:06:46 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Piston Hunt
In-Reply-To: <ca1b9113eafcf246133057eb24f38258@localhost>
Message-ID: <3EDBE8C3B79A4EEF8E49E3E6C6B4B7C7@ronpc1>

Ford 2.3L; L-4

Bore = 3.780"
Stroke = 3.126"

Ford  3.8L  V6

Bore = 96.8mm - 3.81"
Stroke = 86mm - 3.39"

The V6 looks like the pistons might work on a bored 260.  Not sure if the
SHO V6 was the same size engine and might have some tougher pistons.

All the best on your new engine build.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Bob Dixon
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:18 PM
To: drmayf at mayfco.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Piston Hunt


I believe the Ford Pinto pistons used in some mini-stock race cars are at
least the same diameter.  Don't know about the other critical dimensions.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 07:49:14 -0700, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>
wrote:
> Ok, all you hot rodder types...
> I need some high compression ratio pistons.  Custom pistons are spendy 
> to say the least.  So, I am seeking help from those of you who may 
> know where I might find a set for a 260 with 3.8 inch standard bore.  
> Used and serviceable is OK! get out there and beat the bushes! I want 
> to make about 375 or more hp....
> 
> who had the article on the 260 hipo build?  send me the link again? I 
> tossed it before I had gone down this 260 motor build.  Will be an El 
> MIrage motor and perhaps Mojave mile motor...
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jun  8 09:15:44 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:15:44 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed servo
In-Reply-To: <3d4ee.5fbb2098.3b20daed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3DDFCA17C9C94727AB0108BC3E39E09F@ronpc1>

Here is a note that Bill Martin sent out a few years ago:

--- Brent

 The 5 inch booster averages 1.5 times the pressure
 input and the 7 inch averages 2 times. On my booster
 tester with 500 psi on the input side and 10 in of
 vacuum the output on a 5 inch booster is about 750
 psi. The 7 inch booster with the same input and
vacuum
 is about 1000 psi.
 Hope this helps.
 Bill Martin

Maybe Bill has some information about the Lockheed servo.   I could not find
the Roots Group Depot web site; maybe it is down?

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of CoolVT at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:02 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed servo


I've looked around and can't find the specs on the 5"  or 7" Lockheed
servo. I spoke with one supplier and he just said the Lockheed is  the same
as
the Girling.  In other words, he didn't know.  Has anyone  found a  source
for
the info?
Mark
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jun  9 05:31:07 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:31:07 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed servo
In-Reply-To: <4768f.3366c285.3b210716@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C37D4F02B8B4C05A87EECDDB2CB4EC9@ronpc1>

A quick research revealed that people think the Lockheed boost ratio is
anywhere from 1.9 to 3.3.

This indicates that you must use the Lockheed part number to have a chance
of finding the correct ratio.

I have no idea how many different boosters they make nor have I found any
real data about their boost ratio.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: CoolVT at aol.com [mailto:CoolVT at aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:11 PM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Lockheed servo



Ron,
Thanks.  Someone had said that the Lockheed 5" does not put out the same
boost as the Girling 5".  If that's true, maybe the 7" Lockheed is the way
to go.
Mark

In a message dated 6/8/2011 11:15:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rfraser at bluefrog.com writes:

Here is a note that Bill Martin sent out a few years ago:

--- Brent

The 5 inch booster averages 1.5 times the pressure
input and the 7 inch averages 2 times. On my booster
tester with 500 psi on the input side and 10 in of
vacuum the output on a 5 inch booster is about 750
psi. The 7 inch booster with the same input and
vacuum
is about 1000 psi.
Hope this helps.
Bill Martin

Maybe Bill has some information about the Lockheed servo.   I could not find
the Roots Group Depot web site; maybe it is down?

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of CoolVT at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:02 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Lockheed servo


I've looked around and can't find the specs on the 5"  or 7" Lockheed
servo. I spoke with one supplier and he just said the Lockheed is  the same
as
the Girling.  In other words, he didn't know.  Has anyone  found a  source
for
the info?
Mark
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From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jun 10 22:14:32 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:14:32 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] lug nut thread
In-Reply-To: <68EA696D-7704-4534-B588-24B290B18C96@att.net>
References: <74778.88123.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<68EA696D-7704-4534-B588-24B290B18C96@att.net>
Message-ID: <71039217-2155-4C3A-A47F-246F4F0F4559@att.net>

> Does anyone have the thread size for Tiger lug nuts?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
> SIV Alpine

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sun Jun 12 21:34:40 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:34:40 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation
In-Reply-To: <A0738E62-01FD-46DB-84CD-9448A35CBDDA@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <72FEEA39F23F4C58A48792F86BED6F6D@ronpc1>

Peter
	I use large bath towels, under and over the carpet, to soak up
water.

   	I'm not sure about the brake fluid.  Maybe layer an old towel and
kitty litter or similar to pull it out of the padding.

	I think I might try a carpet shampoo to break the fluids down some
then use a wet vac carpet cleaner to pull the fluid out of the carpet and
padding.  I might even soak them in a tub of soapy water, hang them up to
drip dry then use the carpet shampoo and wet vac if needed.

Good luck with the clean up

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Peter Laurinaitis
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:11 PM
To: Tiger List List
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: sticky situation


resending (thinking it didnt go thru ystday as i only got my email with no
body attached)

> From: Peter Laurinaitis <laurin212 at yahoo.com>
> Date: June 11, 2011 7:57:05 PM EDT
> To: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: sticky situation
>
> Two separate issues, but similar ... on one of my tigers the clutch 
> master
cylinder leaked a bunch of fluid soaking my carpet/padding, and on another
tiger, the heater core blew a leak soaking my carpets/padding with coolant.
on both, the padding under the carpet seems to have absorbed most of the
fluid.  Ive pulled the carpets out, but the saturated padding and carpet
doesnt seem to dry at all, at least in the last week or so it hasnt.  Whats
the best way to dry these out, or will they never really dry given we are
talking brake fluid and antifreeze?  I guess i can wash out with water to
displace the fluid, at least in the case of the coolant and then let air
dry? any other ideas?  use a wet/dry vac to suck out the fluids so theyll
dry?  or get new paddings and toss the saturated ones?
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 20:33:53 2011
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:33:53 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Test
Message-ID: <627E9476D9054AA5B4D2858024ACA1A2@OfficePC>

Is this thing working?  I haven't received any emails from the list in
weeks.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

Arlington, TX

B382000217

From lpaulick1 at verizon.net  Mon Jun 20 15:03:42 2011
From: lpaulick1 at verizon.net (Larry Paulick)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:03:42 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] No emails
Message-ID: <4DFFB594.10704@verizon.net>

Hi group, I have not been getting tiger emails for about a month.  Can 
someone help.

Thanks

Larry

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jun 20 18:34:14 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 00:34:14 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] June Jaunt Tech Session 260 Stroker
In-Reply-To: <662923.81546.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C06F90038C946559F0102B3E3EAEE53@ronpc1>

Alex
    Nice, very nice and very interesting.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabbard Gabbard [mailto:gabbardalex at att.net]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 7:12 PM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] June Jaunt Tech Session 260 Stroker


Hello all,
The 260 stroker tech session produced an interesting Tiger engine with a lot
of performance. The engine is a B19KC (Mk IA) 260, stock block and heads,
that received the following:
Bore: 3.830" (0.030" over)
Scat steel crank 3.256" stroke
(neutral balanced assembly from degreed harmonic balancer to billet
flywheel)
Custom I-beam rods
3-ring custom aluminum pistons flat tops
CR: 9.4:1
Comp Cam hydraulic custom grind
302 exhaust and intake valves
Roller tip rockers (fits under stock valve cover)
Heads ported to 22% increased air flow (cc matched and flowed)
Edelbrock Performer RPM (HiPo 289 remake)
Holley 600 cfm carb
Tubular headers
CID: 316 cubes

Max torque: 352.7 lb-ft @ 4736 rpm producing 318 hp
Max power: 350.7 hp at 5785 rpm with 328.4 lb-ft torque

Power bands:
2003 rpm = 98.8 hp
3006 rpm = 180.9 hp
4023 rpm = 262.3 hp
5043 rpm = 327.9 hp
5785 rpm = 350.7 hp (still climbing, limited by leaning of too small
secondary jets).

This stout running engine is visually an original Tiger powerplant that is
still equipped with its original valve covers and foil sticker.

Alex Gabbard



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From hallmotors at cox.net  Tue Jun 21 19:32:08 2011
From: hallmotors at cox.net (Hall Motors)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:32:08 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] MK1A Oil Pressure Gauge
Message-ID: <01a801cc307c$2c889bd0$8599d370$@cox.net>

I need one of these in good working and visual condition.  The one in my
basically original Tiger works fine, but had an air leak resulting in dust
entry, then condensation that turned to a mud like cake at the bottom.  Upon
cleaning some of the black mat finish came off leaving of brass like finish
blotches on the black mat finish.  The subject gauge functions mechanically,
reads 0-7 Kg/cm3 and 0-100 lbs/ci3, and at the bottom states "Jaeger" under
"OIL" and then "Made in the U.K." under Jaeger.  If someone has one of these
gauges in good working and visual condition in their "stash" that they can
let go, please contact me off list.

 

Thanks and Best Regards,

Brad Hall

B382000609 LRXFE

316-990-6328

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jun 22 13:23:39 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:23:39 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Exhaust Manifold question
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George
	See Tigersunited for a picture of the exhaust manifold and tubes;
Section AF, plate D.
http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/parts_rs260/FactParts.asp

Both tubes should pull out of the manifold but they maybe rusted in place.
There are also a couple other parts listed for this heat riser but I have
never pulled one of them that far apart.

If one or both tubes will not move; try heating the manifold and see if they
will turn a little then you should be able to work them out.   If you can't
get them to turn; heat them then put some ATF at the tube/ manifold joint
and try to turn it out of the manifold.   If all fails; cut them  off and
drill out the holes; those tubes are available or you can make them.

If you put any lubricant on the manifold be sure to clean well before
sending them out for coating.

Ron Fraser



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On Behalf Of George Re
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:33 AM
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Subject: [Tigers] Exhaust Manifold question


I am just about to send my manifolds out for coating but have run into a
small problem. There are 2 tubes on the Right manifold one goes to the choke
and one goes to the bottom of the air cleaner HOW do you remove the tube
(the one that goes to the bottom of the cleaner) from the manifold? I have
no idea and can not find any info on it. Thanks in advance

George Re
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From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jun 24 07:11:33 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:11:33 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] test
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I'm receiving nothing....


Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Fri Jun 24 11:42:53 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:42:53 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Brake question
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Stu
	Unfortunately there could be many causes for your brake drag.  More
details are needed to make a long distance call from the List.

Pads too thick - quick look @ what I have around indicates the total
thickness of the pad and backer plate = .60" but I don't know the original
spec or tolerance.
New rubber wrong thickness or style
New rubber is not placed correctly but I would think you would see a fluid
leak in this case
Contamination of the brake fluid
Bad return spring in the master; master is hanging up
Brake servo hanging up
Calipers hanging up
Brake pads hanging up

	The first step I would do is take a short trip with several brake
stops, return and take a look at the brakes.  If they are real bad you might
not make it past your driveway.
	The best case would be that the caliper pistons and pads were
slightly at an angle and just needed to be trued with some real brake
action.  If the brakes are still dragging I would put the old set of pads or
at least a thinner set of pads in to see if they are also dragging.  If the
brakes are still dragging then it is probably not the pads but something up
the line somewhere.   Now you need to inspect and evaluate each part of the
system for function, correct operation and if both side are acting the same
or not.

This is one of those cases where it would be nice to know the original
specification and dimension of parts for comparison.  I believe this
information is available at the Rootes Archive in England but I don't know
how readily available it is online at this time.

Ron Fraser

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Subject: [Tigers] Brake question


So I'm just finishing up a brake job on the Tiger.  All new rubber bits in
the master, slaves and calipers.  I got it all back together and bled, no
leaks yet.  I had to grind down the sides of the pads until they fit loosely
in the calipers. No surprise there, I've had to do this on my Subaru, the
Buick, etc..  So I know the pads are free vs the calipers.  But there is
still significant drag on the disks when the brakes are off.  The culprits
seem to be the outer seals on the pistons. They bulge up enough that they
are pushing on the new pads, causing the drag.  The drag is high enough that
I suspect that I won't get out of town before the disks are glowing red.

Has anyone else encountered this?  Does it go away quickly once they heat up
the first time?  Has anyone encountered pads that are too thick? Any ideas
out there?  I'll probably drive it for the first time with the new brakes
tomorrow night or Saturday, with a show to go to Sunday... And I'd hate to
put the old pads back in.

Stu
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From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jun 24 12:05:05 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:05:05 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] lug nut size
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> Does anyone have the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Jun 25 07:45:35 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:45:35 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size
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Allan
	7/16 x 20

Ron Fraser

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Subject: [Tigers] Tiger lug nut size


Does anyone know the replacement size for Tiger lug nuts?

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
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