From AAAGLASSS at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 08:12:37 2011
From: AAAGLASSS at aol.com (AAAGLASSS at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:12:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] craigs list looks rusty
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_http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ctd/2465267132.html_ 
(http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ctd/2465267132.html) 

From rande at thecia.net  Sat Jul  2 12:27:20 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 14:27:20 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Last weekends British Car Day Boston
Message-ID: <4e0f6308.61a8.0@thecia.net>

I want to thank everyone who could make it to BCD last Sunday. We had super
weather, mostly sun and a slight breeze.

By the time I had to leave, at noon, we had about 225 cars on display. Chief
among them were a red Alpine Series II whose owner I met for the first time,
and who lives the next town over from me, and who has owned the car for years,
he said; a Med Blue Alpine Series V whose owner I didn't get to meet, but Mr
Brennan did; a black Tiger 1A that I haven't seen in the area before;Dana and
Marlene Freemans BRG Tiger 1A that they've had since 1967, and along with David
Twomblys  Tiger 1(which he couldn't bring, but has owned since around 1971),
are the most original, spotless cars I've seen on either coast; and Stu Brennans
Tiger 1A which did arrive after he replaced all of the brake rubber parts and
sorted out another brake issue.

The usual suspects, too (MG, TR, Jaguar, A-H) but also 15-20 assorted Lotus
Europas, Exige (and a dealer-supplied Evora).

Thanks again to Stu and his family, David Kellogg, David Twombly,the Freemans,
the two owners whose names I didn't get, and to the Larz Andersen Museum staff
for ordering up such a super day for the show this year.

RB

From genepadgett at comcast.net  Sun Jul  3 18:59:11 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 00:59:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
In-Reply-To: <000301cc3433$04d7a6c0$0e86f440$@net>
Message-ID: <39293897.169470.1309741151723.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Hi Graham, I have no experience yet to share, but I alsoB do not seeB any
responses to you yet. For what its worth B I am looking at the same crossover
tube connection issue. In my case I am going to 3/8 inch lines. I do not know
if you are staying with 5/16. If so, maybe you could salvage the existing
fitting and use it on a new line.

If like me you are going to 3/8 inch lines, c heck out Holley part number on
26-70 on Summit Racing's site. It looks like this would work, connecting on
the female side to the 5/16 nipple on the crossover pipe. You could then
connect a compression nut and sleeve on the 3/8 inch line side and be sure of
a good seal.I d o not know if the nipple threads and adapter threads are
compatible, since I have not tried it.B B  If you do and it works, please let
me know!B B  If you are staying with 5/16 lines, B this will obviously not
help, but thought it worth mentioning, just in case it might be helpful.B C
heers, Gene



----- Original Message -----


From: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:58:20 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting

Listers -

I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
crossover tube and the fuel pump. B  I have an aftermarket fuel pump that's
mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well. B The current
configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect to
the gas tank crossover tube. B The line is damaged and I'd like to replace
it. B Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
nipple? B Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to the
crossover tube? B 

Thanks as always,

Graham Harlowe
B382001466
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 19:31:55 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:31:55 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
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it's a compression fitting.  when I replaced this line with stainless 3/8
pipe, I got a brass compression fitting adaptor from a plumbing place in the
uk.

I recommend draining the tanks first.  I didn't bother and got 2nd degree
burns from high octane fuel soaked into my rolled up sleeve.

On Jul 3, 2011, at 20:59, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Hi Graham, I have no experience yet to share, but I alsoB do not seeB any
> responses to you yet. For what its worth B I am looking at the same
crossover
> tube connection issue. In my case I am going to 3/8 inch lines. I do not
know
> if you are staying with 5/16. If so, maybe you could salvage the existing
> fitting and use it on a new line.
>
> If like me you are going to 3/8 inch lines, c heck out Holley part number
on
> 26-70 on Summit Racing's site. It looks like this would work, connecting on
> the female side to the 5/16 nipple on the crossover pipe. You could then
> connect a compression nut and sleeve on the 3/8 inch line side and be sure
of
> a good seal.I d o not know if the nipple threads and adapter threads are
> compatible, since I have not tried it.B B  If you do and it works, please
let
> me know!B B  If you are staying with 5/16 lines, B this will obviously not
> help, but thought it worth mentioning, just in case it might be helpful.B C
> heers, Gene
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:58:20 PM
> Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
>
> Listers -
>
> I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
> crossover tube and the fuel pump. B  I have an aftermarket fuel pump that's
> mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well. B The current
> configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect to
> the gas tank crossover tube. B The line is damaged and I'd like to replace
> it. B Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
> nipple? B Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to
the
> crossover tube? B
>
> Thanks as always,
>
> Graham Harlowe
> B382001466
> _______________________________________________
>
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Sun Jul  3 20:20:43 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 02:20:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
In-Reply-To: <70CC5A31-6257-4FD1-89FF-8C73379554AE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1576738018.170912.1309746043496.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Owain, many thanks for the tips! Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Owain Lloyd" <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
To: genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>, tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 8:31:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting

it's a compression fitting. B when I replaced this line with stainless 3/8
pipe, I got a brass compression fitting adaptor from a plumbing place in the
uk. B 

I recommend draining the tanks first. B I didn't bother and got 2nd degree
burns from high octane fuel soaked into my rolled up sleeve.

On Jul 3, 2011, at 20:59, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Hi Graham, I have no experience yet to share, but I alsoB do not seeB any
> responses to you yet. For what its worth B I am looking at the same
crossover
> tube connection issue. In my case I am going to 3/8 inch lines. I do not
know
> if you are staying with 5/16. If so, maybe you could salvage the existing
> fitting and use it on a new line.
>
> If like me you are going to 3/8 inch lines, c heck out Holley part number on
> 26-70 on Summit Racing's site. It looks like this would work, connecting on
> the female side to the 5/16 nipple on the crossover pipe. You could then
> connect a compression nut and sleeve on the 3/8 inch line side and be sure
of
> a good seal.I d o not know if the nipple threads and adapter threads are
> compatible, since I have not tried it.B B B If you do and it works, please
let
> me know!B B B If you are staying with 5/16 lines, B this will obviously not
> help, but thought it worth mentioning, just in case it might be helpful.B C
> heers, Gene
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:58:20 PM
> Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
>
> Listers -
>
> I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
> crossover tube and the fuel pump. B B I have an aftermarket fuel pump that's
> mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well. B The current
> configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect to
> the gas tank crossover tube. B The line is damaged and I'd like to replace
> it. B Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
> nipple? B Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to the
> crossover tube? B
>
> Thanks as always,
>
> Graham Harlowe
> B382001466
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Sun Jul  3 20:38:41 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 02:38:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
In-Reply-To: <39293897.169470.1309741151723.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1034247011.171174.1309747121176.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Apologies to all, I got a little excited too quickly on that adapter. Maybe it
will indeed work, but the 3/8 end looks like it takes a bubble flared
connection, not the compression connection I thought it had. But Owain's
followup e-mail about the crossover fitting being a compression fitting and
that adapters to a 3/8 inch line, if going tha t route, are available B is a
B great help at least to me! Gene B  B 

----- Original Message -----
From: genepadgett at comcast.net
To: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 7:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting




Hi Graham,I have no experience yet to share, but I alsoB do not seeB any
responses to you yet.For what its worthB I am looking at the same crossover
tube connection issue. In my case I am going to 3/8 inch lines. I do not know
if you are staying with 5/16. If so, maybe you could salvage the existing
fitting and use it on a new line.

If like me you are going to 3/8 inch lines, check out Holley part number on
26-70 on Summit Racing's site.It looks like this would work, connecting on the
female side to the 5/16 nipple on the crossover pipe.You could then connect a
compression nut and sleeve on the 3/8 inch line side and be sure of a good
seal.I do not know if the nipple threads and adapter threads are compatible,
since I have not tried it.B B  If you do and it works, please let me know!B B 
If you are staying with 5/16 lines, B this will obviously not help, but
thought it worth mentioning, just in case it might be helpful.B Cheers, Gene



----- Original Message -----




From: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:58:20 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting

Listers -

I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
crossover tube and the fuel pump. B  I have an aftermarket fuel pump that's
mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well. B The current
configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect to
the gas tank crossover tube. B The line is damaged and I'd like to replace
it. B Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
nipple? B Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to the
crossover tube? B 

Thanks as always,

Graham Harlowe
B382001466
_______________________________________________

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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 20:48:21 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:48:21 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
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I have photos of the fitting somewhere.  I will share later if you like.

the reason I did this job was I was getting dead spots at the end of a long
straight on full throttle.  this was the last 5/16 in the system and 3/8 fixed
it.

On Jul 3, 2011, at 22:20, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:

> Owain, many thanks for the tips! Gene
>
> From: "Owain Lloyd" <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> To: genepadgett at comcast.net
> Cc: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>, tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 8:31:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
>
> it's a compression fitting.  when I replaced this line with stainless 3/8
pipe, I got a brass compression fitting adaptor from a plumbing place in the
uk.
>
> I recommend draining the tanks first.  I didn't bother and got 2nd degree
burns from high octane fuel soaked into my rolled up sleeve.
>
> On Jul 3, 2011, at 20:59, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:
>
> > Hi Graham, I have no experience yet to share, but I alsoB do not seeB any
> > responses to you yet. For what its worth B I am looking at the same
crossover
> > tube connection issue. In my case I am going to 3/8 inch lines. I do not
know
> > if you are staying with 5/16. If so, maybe you could salvage the existing
> > fitting and use it on a new line.
> >
> > If like me you are going to 3/8 inch lines, c heck out Holley part number
on
> > 26-70 on Summit Racing's site. It looks like this would work, connecting
on
> > the female side to the 5/16 nipple on the crossover pipe. You could then
> > connect a compression nut and sleeve on the 3/8 inch line side and be sure
of
> > a good seal.I d o not know if the nipple threads and adapter threads are
> > compatible, since I have not tried it.B B  If you do and it works, please
let
> > me know!B B  If you are staying with 5/16 lines, B this will obviously
not
> > help, but thought it worth mentioning, just in case it might be helpful.B
C
> > heers, Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Graham Harlowe" <gharlowe at comcast.net>
> > To: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:58:20 PM
> > Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
> >
> > Listers -
> >
> > I'm in the process of replumbing the fuel line between the fuel tank
> > crossover tube and the fuel pump. B  I have an aftermarket fuel pump
that's
> > mounted on the trunk bulkhead in the spare tire well. B The current
> > configuration uses about 18 inches of the original fuel line to connect
to
> > the gas tank crossover tube. B The line is damaged and I'd like to
replace
> > it. B Will a standard NPT or AN fitting thread onto the crossover tube
> > nipple? B Any experience out there using anodized fittings to connect to
the
> > crossover tube? B
> >
> > Thanks as always,
> >
> > Graham Harlowe
> > B382001466
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers at autox.team.net
> >
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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Mon Jul  4 07:48:40 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:48:40 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
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When I re-plumbed my fuel system, I kept about 3" of the 5/16" line including
the compression fitting end, and soldered it into a 3/8" pipe that supplies
the fuel pump. It's not as good as having 3/8" all the way but I figured the
short piece of 5/16 would limit the difference.

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd
> Sent: July 3, 2011 8:48 PM
> To: genepadgett at comcast.net
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
>
> I have photos of the fitting somewhere.  I will share later if you
> like.
>
> the reason I did this job was I was getting dead spots at the end of a
> long
> straight on full throttle.  this was the last 5/16 in the system and
> 3/8 fixed
> it.
>
> On Jul 3, 2011, at 22:20, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:


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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Mon Jul  4 10:37:16 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:37:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
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Theo, thats an excellent alternative solution.B  T hanks for taking the time
to pass it along.B B  Much appreciated! Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Theo Smit" <Theo.Smit at dynastream.com>
To: "Owain Lloyd" <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>, genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 8:48:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting

When I re-plumbed my fuel system, I kept about 3" of the 5/16" line including
the compression fitting end, and soldered it into a 3/8" pipe that supplies
the fuel pump. It's not as good as having 3/8" all the way but I figured the
short piece of 5/16 would limit the difference.

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd
> Sent: July 3, 2011 8:48 PM
> To: genepadgett at comcast.net
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
>
> I have photos of the fitting somewhere. B I will share later if you
> like.
>
> the reason I did this job was I was getting dead spots at the end of a
> long
> straight on full throttle. B this was the last 5/16 in the system and
> 3/8 fixed
> it.
>
> On Jul 3, 2011, at 22:20, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:


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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 10:38:11 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:38:11 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
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http://owainlloyd.no-ip.com:8080/photos/Tiger/fuelPump/slides/CIMG4638.JPG
http://owainlloyd.no-ip.com:8080/photos/Tiger/fuelPump/slides/CIMG4639.JPG

http://www.bes.co.uk/products/145a.asp

scroll down to "Compression x BSP Parallel Female" - i think it was either
part 9477 or 9476.

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Smit, Theo <Theo.Smit at dynastream.com> wrote:

> When I re-plumbed my fuel system, I kept about 3" of the 5/16" line
> including the compression fitting end, and soldered it into a 3/8" pipe that
> supplies the fuel pump. It's not as good as having 3/8" all the way but I
> figured the short piece of 5/16 would limit the difference.
>
> Theo
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd
> > Sent: July 3, 2011 8:48 PM
> > To: genepadgett at comcast.net
> > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
> >
> > I have photos of the fitting somewhere.  I will share later if you
> > like.
> >
> > the reason I did this job was I was getting dead spots at the end of a
> > long
> > straight on full throttle.  this was the last 5/16 in the system and
> > 3/8 fixed
> > it.
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2011, at 22:20, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:
>
>
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 10:39:10 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:39:10 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iTrN0kuwj2AkOjSV5+XcW7UjHJu2MWSm4A-OPAamxQdUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1576738018.170912.1309746043496.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<657F420D-829C-4FA4-B64C-7D00555662BF@gmail.com>
	<47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED824E28@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>
	<CANE47iTrN0kuwj2AkOjSV5+XcW7UjHJu2MWSm4A-OPAamxQdUA@mail.gmail.com>
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(it was 9476)

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://owainlloyd.no-ip.com:8080/photos/Tiger/fuelPump/slides/CIMG4638.JPG
> http://owainlloyd.no-ip.com:8080/photos/Tiger/fuelPump/slides/CIMG4639.JPG
>
> http://www.bes.co.uk/products/145a.asp
>
> scroll down to "Compression x BSP Parallel Female" - i think it was either
> part 9477 or 9476.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Smit, Theo <Theo.Smit at dynastream.com>wrote:
>
>> When I re-plumbed my fuel system, I kept about 3" of the 5/16" line
>> including the compression fitting end, and soldered it into a 3/8" pipe that
>> supplies the fuel pump. It's not as good as having 3/8" all the way but I
>> figured the short piece of 5/16 would limit the difference.
>>
>> Theo
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
>> > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd
>> > Sent: July 3, 2011 8:48 PM
>> > To: genepadgett at comcast.net
>> > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank crossover tube fitting
>> >
>> > I have photos of the fitting somewhere.  I will share later if you
>> > like.
>> >
>> > the reason I did this job was I was getting dead spots at the end of a
>> > long
>> > straight on full throttle.  this was the last 5/16 in the system and
>> > 3/8 fixed
>> > it.
>> >
>> > On Jul 3, 2011, at 22:20, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 22:20:22 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 21:20:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11
Message-ID: <1309839622.98250.YahooMailClassic@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Could someone with paint code info post  the color for code number eleven. I had previously thought the car was 39 as it has red under the added on black but further cleaning of the vin shows the paint code to be an 11. Thanks in advance.
Tony

From wwwdg at webtv.net  Mon Jul  4 22:57:12 2011
From: wwwdg at webtv.net (David or Gary Franchi)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 04:57:12 GMT
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11
Message-ID: <BAY148-ds16FBBA33755945917242C5AD5F0@phx.gbl>

Thistle Grey, But my info says it is not a Tiger color.
David


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Somebody
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 9:20 PM
To: Beamclub
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11

Could someone with paint code info post  the color for code number eleven. I had previously thought the car was 39 as it has red under the added on black but further cleaning of the vin shows the paint code to be an 11. Thanks in advance.
Tony
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 00:15:48 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 06:15:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11
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Hi Tony, I am playing catchup here and so apologize in advance for that. Is
the car currently painted black? Could the red you see under black be the
medium redish primer I think B many if not all of us have under our final
paint coat?B  That primer is more of a smooth, rudy looking paint a bit
different from the red primer you find over here these days. The reason I ask
is that B color code 1 (not 11) is Embassy Black. B B  Maybe there was an
unintentional double strike of the 1 on your VIN plate? Just some thoughts,
hopefully not covering information others have already provided . Cheers, Gene

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Beamclub" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:20:22 PM
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11

Could someone with paint code info post B the color for code number eleven. I
had previously thought the car was 39 as it has red under the added on black
but further cleaning of the vin shows the paint code to be an 11. Thanks in
advance.
Tony
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jul  5 07:08:49 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 09:08:49 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11
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Message-ID: <B48014DC6935408A9DB0FFDCD45F435B@ronpc1>

Tony
	Code 11 is Thistle Grey and it is listed as Series I Alpine only.

Code 11 Thistle Grey - Ditzler # 32041, Chrysler # 75242804, Berger #
404.0621, ICI # 2837

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Tony Somebody
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:20 AM
To: Beamclub
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11


Could someone with paint code info post  the color for code number eleven. I
had previously thought the car was 39 as it has red under the added on black
but further cleaning of the vin shows the paint code to be an 11. Thanks in
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From awtiger at cox.net  Tue Jul  5 09:50:18 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:50:18 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
Message-ID: <20110705115018.FSB4Q.980710.imail@eastrmwml48>

Hey, guys:

I've messed with Tigers now since 1979 and yesterday I saw something that I've
never seen before.  I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me.  I have a spare
radiator header tank for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given to me by a
friend several years ago, along with a bunch of other spare Tiger bits.  I had
never really looked at it before, other than just a cursory glance.  However,
yesterday I unpacked the box that all of these parts were in and examined that
tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there is a square-shaped "U"
piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat surface of this piece, it says
"water level."  Of course, I understand the significance of the piece.  I am
puzzled, however, because it's the only Tiger radiator header tank that I've
ever seen that had such a water level indicator in it.  Niether my current
Mk1A nor the other three Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's) have had that piece
down in their tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?  Does anybody else have
this on their Tiger?

Thanks in advance,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jul  5 12:09:30 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:09:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <20110705115018.FSB4Q.980710.imail@eastrmwml48>
Message-ID: <3C6433B406994488AF387AE74A3BFC16@ronpc1>

Andy
	There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts List 6601334.
1224725	Up to B382001521
5221224	B382001522 to B382001894
1236126	From B382001895

One of these could be the one with the water level.

It seems to me I have seen the one with the water level indicator part but
no idea when or in which Tiger I saw it.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of awtiger at cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question


Hey, guys:

I've messed with Tigers now since 1979 and yesterday I saw something that
I've never seen before.  I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me.  I have a
spare radiator header tank for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given to
me by a friend several years ago, along with a bunch of other spare Tiger
bits.  I had never really looked at it before, other than just a cursory
glance.  However, yesterday I unpacked the box that all of these parts were
in and examined that tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there is a
square-shaped "U" piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat surface of
this piece, it says "water level."  Of course, I understand the significance
of the piece.  I am puzzled, however, because it's the only Tiger radiator
header tank that I've ever seen that had such a water level indicator in it.
Niether my current Mk1A nor the other three Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's)
have had that piece down in their tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?
Does anybody else have this on their Tiger?

Thanks in advance,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 12:29:27 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:29:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
Message-ID: <bd255.686abe09.3b44b206@aol.com>

Andy,
I'd be curious to know how far down from the top of  the filler is the 
"water level" mark found.  I've always wondered if  I  keep enough in my tank.
Mark L
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2011 2:25:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rfraser at bluefrog.com writes:

Andy
There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts  List 6601334.
1224725    Up to B382001521
5221224     B382001522 to B382001894
1236126    From B382001895

One of  these could be the one with the water level.

It seems to me I have seen  the one with the water level indicator part but
no idea when or in which  Tiger I saw it.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From:  tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On  Behalf Of awtiger at cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM
To:  tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank  question


Hey, guys:

I've messed with Tigers now since 1979  and yesterday I saw something that
I've never seen before.  I'm hoping  that someone can enlighten me.  I have 
a
spare radiator header tank  for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given to
me by a friend several  years ago, along with a bunch of other spare Tiger
bits.  I had never  really looked at it before, other than just a cursory
glance.   However, yesterday I unpacked the box that all of these parts were
in and  examined that tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there is 
 a
square-shaped "U" piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat  surface of
this piece, it says "water level."  Of course, I understand  the 
significance
of the piece.  I am puzzled, however, because it's  the only Tiger radiator
header tank that I've ever seen that had such a  water level indicator in 
it.
Niether my current Mk1A nor the other three  Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's)
have had that piece down in their  tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?
Does anybody else have this on  their Tiger?

Thanks in advance,
Andy Walker
Edmond,  OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC  #740
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From awtiger at cox.net  Tue Jul  5 12:40:09 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:40:09 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <bd255.686abe09.3b44b206@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20110705144009.KGMR9.982645.imail@eastrmwml48>

Mark:

If I get a chance tonight, I'll measure the depth of the level marker.  It's not very deep, though...

Andy

---- CoolVT at aol.com wrote: 
> Andy,
> I'd be curious to know how far down from the top of  the filler is the 
> "water level" mark found.  I've always wondered if  I  keep enough in my tank.
> Mark L
>  
>  
> In a message dated 7/5/2011 2:25:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> rfraser at bluefrog.com writes:
> 
> Andy
> There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts  List 6601334.
> 1224725    Up to B382001521
> 5221224     B382001522 to B382001894
> 1236126    From B382001895
> 
> One of  these could be the one with the water level.
> 
> It seems to me I have seen  the one with the water level indicator part but
> no idea when or in which  Tiger I saw it.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On  Behalf Of awtiger at cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM
> To:  tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank  question
> 
> 
> Hey, guys:
> 
> I've messed with Tigers now since 1979  and yesterday I saw something that
> I've never seen before.  I'm hoping  that someone can enlighten me.  I have 
> a
> spare radiator header tank  for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given to
> me by a friend several  years ago, along with a bunch of other spare Tiger
> bits.  I had never  really looked at it before, other than just a cursory
> glance.   However, yesterday I unpacked the box that all of these parts were
> in and  examined that tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there is 
>  a
> square-shaped "U" piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat  surface of
> this piece, it says "water level."  Of course, I understand  the 
> significance
> of the piece.  I am puzzled, however, because it's  the only Tiger radiator
> header tank that I've ever seen that had such a  water level indicator in 
> it.
> Niether my current Mk1A nor the other three  Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's)
> have had that piece down in their  tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?
> Does anybody else have this on  their Tiger?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond,  OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC  #740
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 12:42:01 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
Message-ID: <bdd32.2203a210.3b44b4f9@aol.com>

Andy,
Would really appreciate that. I've never kept it more  than 1/3rd full.  
Not sure where I got the idea that was right. Another few  pints might help my 
cooling:-)
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2011 2:40:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
awtiger at cox.net writes:

Mark:

If I get a chance tonight, I'll measure the depth of  the level marker.  
It's not very deep, though...

Andy

----  CoolVT at aol.com wrote: 
> Andy,
> I'd be curious to know how far  down from the top of  the filler is the 
> "water level" mark  found.  I've always wondered if  I  keep enough in my 
 tank.
> Mark L
>  
>  
> In a message dated  7/5/2011 2:25:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>  rfraser at bluefrog.com writes:
> 
> Andy
> There are 3 header  tanks listed in my Parts  List 6601334.
> 1224725    Up  to B382001521
> 5221224     B382001522 to  B382001894
> 1236126    From B382001895
> 
> One  of  these could be the one with the water level.
> 
> It  seems to me I have seen  the one with the water level indicator part  
but
> no idea when or in which  Tiger I saw it.
> 
>  Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   tigers-bounces at autox.team.net 
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
>  On  Behalf Of awtiger at cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50  AM
> To:  tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Radiator  header tank  question
> 
> 
> Hey, guys:
>  
> I've messed with Tigers now since 1979  and yesterday I saw  something 
that
> I've never seen before.  I'm hoping  that  someone can enlighten me.  I 
have 
> a
> spare radiator  header tank  for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given 
to
> me  by a friend several  years ago, along with a bunch of other spare  
Tiger
> bits.  I had never  really looked at it before, other  than just a cursory
> glance.   However, yesterday I unpacked  the box that all of these parts 
were
> in and  examined that  tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there 
is 
>   a
> square-shaped "U" piece of metal that hangs down.  On the  flat  surface 
of
> this piece, it says "water level."  Of  course, I understand  the 
> significance
> of the  piece.  I am puzzled, however, because it's  the only Tiger  
radiator
> header tank that I've ever seen that had such a  water  level indicator 
in 
> it.
> Niether my current Mk1A nor the other  three  Tigers I've owned (all 
Mk1's)
> have had that piece down in  their  tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?
> Does anybody  else have this on  their Tiger?
> 
> Thanks in  advance,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond,  OK
>  B382001600LRXFE
> TAC  #740
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> 
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From awtiger at cox.net  Tue Jul  5 12:42:50 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:42:50 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <3C6433B406994488AF387AE74A3BFC16@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <20110705144250.KHFOR.982673.imail@eastrmwml48>

Very interesting, Ron.  I, too, would like to know the details of these header tanks, especially since my car (B382001600) falls within the shortest run of tanks.  Could these have been the only ones to have the level marker???

Andy

----  Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote: 
> Andy
> 	There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts List 6601334.
> 1224725	Up to B382001521
> 5221224	B382001522 to B382001894
> 1236126	From B382001895
> 
> One of these could be the one with the water level.
> 
> It seems to me I have seen the one with the water level indicator part but
> no idea when or in which Tiger I saw it.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of awtiger at cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
> 
> 
> Hey, guys:
> 
> I've messed with Tigers now since 1979 and yesterday I saw something that
> I've never seen before.  I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me.  I have a
> spare radiator header tank for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given to
> me by a friend several years ago, along with a bunch of other spare Tiger
> bits.  I had never really looked at it before, other than just a cursory
> glance.  However, yesterday I unpacked the box that all of these parts were
> in and examined that tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there is a
> square-shaped "U" piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat surface of
> this piece, it says "water level."  Of course, I understand the significance
> of the piece.  I am puzzled, however, because it's the only Tiger radiator
> header tank that I've ever seen that had such a water level indicator in it.
> Niether my current Mk1A nor the other three Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's)
> have had that piece down in their tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?
> Does anybody else have this on their Tiger?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 13:14:35 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:14:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
Message-ID: <bfb23.710b33cc.3b44bc9a@aol.com>

And, how is this piece hanging down attached to   the tank?
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2011 3:05:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
awtiger at cox.net writes:

Very  interesting, Ron.  I, too, would like to know the details of these 
header  tanks, especially since my car (B382001600) falls within the shortest 
run of  tanks.  Could these have been the only ones to have the level  
marker???

Andy

----  Ron Fraser  <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote: 
> Andy
>     There  are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts List 6601334.
> 1224725   Up to B382001521
> 5221224    B382001522 to  B382001894
> 1236126    From B382001895
> 
> One  of these could be the one with the water level.
> 
> It seems to  me I have seen the one with the water level indicator part 
but
> no idea  when or in which Tiger I saw it.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net  
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of  awtiger at cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM
> To:  tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank  question
> 
> 
> Hey, guys:
> 
> I've messed  with Tigers now since 1979 and yesterday I saw something that
> I've  never seen before.  I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me.  I  
have a
> spare radiator header tank for a Tiger in my parts stash that  was given 
to
> me by a friend several years ago, along with a bunch of  other spare Tiger
> bits.  I had never really looked at it before,  other than just a cursory
> glance.  However, yesterday I unpacked  the box that all of these parts 
were
> in and examined that tank.   Just inside the radiator cap opening, there 
is a
> square-shaped "U"  piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat surface of
> this  piece, it says "water level."  Of course, I understand the  
significance
> of the piece.  I am puzzled, however, because it's  the only Tiger 
radiator
> header tank that I've ever seen that had such  a water level indicator in 
it.
> Niether my current Mk1A nor the other  three Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's)
> have had that piece down in their  tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?
> Does anybody else have this  on their Tiger?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Andy  Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  5 13:20:42 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 11
Message-ID: <1309893642.50168.YahooMailClassic@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think I better return with some light sand paper as Im positive the rivets are original as is the Tiger. Perhaps I was looking at the wrong stamping as I would have sworn I recall seeing "39" when I purchased this Tiger. The black is peeling off and Im certain the red is the orginal paint. I will be back tomorrow working on my friends S2 Alpine (What a Beauty, I cant wait for everyone to see this restoration)and I will post my finding. Meanwhile, THANKS for all the responses from the great members on the LIST.
Tony

From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 13:22:11 2011
From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <20110705144250.KHFOR.982673.imail@eastrmwml48>
References: <3C6433B406994488AF387AE74A3BFC16@ronpc1>
	<20110705144250.KHFOR.982673.imail@eastrmwml48>
Message-ID: <CADz+TtcL-Ag+K0LpP9cD0A_M1D2JLCMoD+5DzWqr3zA4xHagHA@mail.gmail.com>

I think what Andy Walker described is what is installed on my Mk II.  IIRC,
it's a little more than half way deep in the header tank.

Keep on Tigering!
 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, <awtiger at cox.net> wrote:

> Very interesting, Ron.  I, too, would like to know the details of these
> header tanks, especially since my car (B382001600) falls within the shortest
> run of tanks.  Could these have been the only ones to have the level
> marker???
>
> Andy
>
> ----  Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> > Andy
> >       There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts List 6601334.
> > 1224725       Up to B382001521
> > 5221224       B382001522 to B382001894
> > 1236126       From B382001895
> >
> > One of these could be the one with the water level.
> >
> > It seems to me I have seen the one with the water level indicator part
> but
> > no idea when or in which Tiger I saw it.
> >
> > Ron Fraser
> >
> >
>



-- 
Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp

From lpaulick1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul  5 13:53:12 2011
From: lpaulick1 at verizon.net (Larry Paulick)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:53:12 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <20110705115018.FSB4Q.980710.imail@eastrmwml48>
References: <20110705115018.FSB4Q.980710.imail@eastrmwml48>
Message-ID: <4E136BA8.3030808@verizon.net>

Andy, my MKI has this piece.

Larry

On 7/5/11 11:50 AM, awtiger at cox.net wrote:
> Hey, guys:
>
> I've messed with Tigers now since 1979 and yesterday I saw something that I've
> never seen before.  I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me.  I have a spare
> radiator header tank for a Tiger in my parts stash that was given to me by a
> friend several years ago, along with a bunch of other spare Tiger bits.  I had
> never really looked at it before, other than just a cursory glance.  However,
> yesterday I unpacked the box that all of these parts were in and examined that
> tank.  Just inside the radiator cap opening, there is a square-shaped "U"
> piece of metal that hangs down.  On the flat surface of this piece, it says
> "water level."  Of course, I understand the significance of the piece.  I am
> puzzled, however, because it's the only Tiger radiator header tank that I've
> ever seen that had such a water level indicator in it.  Niether my current
> Mk1A nor the other three Tigers I've owned (all Mk1's) have had that piece
> down in their tanks.  Are they supposed to have it?  Does anybody else have
> this on their Tiger?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Tue Jul  5 13:55:30 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:55:30 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <CADz+TtcL-Ag+K0LpP9cD0A_M1D2JLCMoD+5DzWqr3zA4xHagHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3C6433B406994488AF387AE74A3BFC16@ronpc1>
	<20110705144250.KHFOR.982673.imail@eastrmwml48>
	<CADz+TtcL-Ag+K0LpP9cD0A_M1D2JLCMoD+5DzWqr3zA4xHagHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED825255@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

I have one on my Tiger, 382002705. It's not as deep as others have noted...
maybe about an inch below the level of the thermostat flange.

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sencindiver
> Sent: July 5, 2011 1:22 PM
> To: awtiger at cox.net
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
>
> I think what Andy Walker described is what is installed on my Mk II.
> IIRC,
> it's a little more than half way deep in the header tank.
>
> Keep on Tigering!
>  Jim Sencindiver
>
> B382100451/TAC 448
> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, <awtiger at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Very interesting, Ron.  I, too, would like to know the details of
> these
> > header tanks, especially since my car (B382001600) falls within the
> shortest
> > run of tanks.  Could these have been the only ones to have the level
> > marker???
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > ----  Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> > > Andy
> > >       There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts List 6601334.
> > > 1224725       Up to B382001521
> > > 5221224       B382001522 to B382001894
> > > 1236126       From B382001895
> > >
> > > One of these could be the one with the water level.
> > >
> > > It seems to me I have seen the one with the water level indicator
> part
> > but
> > > no idea when or in which Tiger I saw it.
> > >
> > > Ron Fraser
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Sencindiver
>
> B382100451/TAC 448
> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
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From awtiger at cox.net  Tue Jul  5 14:58:59 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:58:59 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED825255@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>
Message-ID: <20110705165859.O3CG9.984136.imail@eastrmwml48>

That's about as deep as the one I have, Theo.  

Andy

---- "Smit wrote: 
> I have one on my Tiger, 382002705. It's not as deep as others have noted... maybe about an inch below the level of the thermostat flange.
> 
> Theo
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sencindiver
> > Sent: July 5, 2011 1:22 PM
> > To: awtiger at cox.net
> > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
> >
> > I think what Andy Walker described is what is installed on my Mk II.
> > IIRC,
> > it's a little more than half way deep in the header tank.
> >
> > Keep on Tigering!
> >  Jim Sencindiver
> >
> > B382100451/TAC 448
> > http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, <awtiger at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Very interesting, Ron.  I, too, would like to know the details of
> > these
> > > header tanks, especially since my car (B382001600) falls within the
> > shortest
> > > run of tanks.  Could these have been the only ones to have the level
> > > marker???
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > ----  Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> > > > Andy
> > > >       There are 3 header tanks listed in my Parts List 6601334.
> > > > 1224725       Up to B382001521
> > > > 5221224       B382001522 to B382001894
> > > > 1236126       From B382001895
> > > >
> > > > One of these could be the one with the water level.
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me I have seen the one with the water level indicator
> > part
> > > but
> > > > no idea when or in which Tiger I saw it.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Fraser
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 16:12:32 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:12:32 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <20110705165859.O3CG9.984136.imail@eastrmwml48>
Message-ID: <001b01cc3b60$a83fe280$6501a8c0@Brennan>

B382002452 has it too, about an inch down.  I've tried filling the
system to this mark, but it just blows the excess out the overflow and
stabilizes with the header tank about half full. Stock engine, recored
stock radiator, 190 thermostat, no wild temp excursions.

Stu

From jrv309 at charter.net  Tue Jul  5 17:40:27 2011
From: jrv309 at charter.net (jrv309 at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:40:27 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <001b01cc3b60$a83fe280$6501a8c0@Brennan>
References: <001b01cc3b60$a83fe280$6501a8c0@Brennan>
Message-ID: <F02394AE23374107906EAC349984A7C4@NewDell>

        Hello All;  Don't worry about the thing in the tank. think about the 
radiator.  Today, Marlene and I were caught up in a 6 mile long,  yes 6 mile 
long traffic jam, trying to cross from Washington State to Astoria on the 
bridge over the Columbia River..  The temperature was about 80 and the Tiger 
started to over heat.  There was no place to pull off or pass to get the air 
flowing thru the radiator.  Temp gauge went to 250/260, not sure since the 
gauge  only reads to 230.  We were stuck for the better part of an hour and 
guess what, big smell, no puke and after all that time the time went down, 
were able to re-establish the air flow.  Got it home and water level was 
down just a touch and the oil looks good.  If you have ever wondered about 
how good "Dales" radiators are, this was the proof in the pudding.  By the 
way the radiator was installed in 1999.  GOOD JOB Dale!!  Jerry, Marlene and 
the critters

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stu Brennan
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 3:12 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question

B382002452 has it too, about an inch down.  I've tried filling the
system to this mark, but it just blows the excess out the overflow and
stabilizes with the header tank about half full. Stock engine, recored
stock radiator, 190 thermostat, no wild temp excursions.

Stu
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From Carmods at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 08:05:28 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:05:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
Message-ID: <53480.1a71dd6e.3b45c5a8@aol.com>

Just a comment about the coolant level in the cooling tank. 
 
If you add an overflow tank and a cap like a Stant with a double seal  and 
a toggle relief valve, you can keep the tank and radiator  absolutely full 
at all times so that; 
    *   the radiator is always full of coolant and all of the  radiator 
core is used.  
    *   there will be no aeration of the coolant to degrade the waterpump  
efficiency. 
    *   when the engine gets hot, the over flow coolant is saved and 
returned to  the tank during cool down rather than on the road or track.  
    *   the overflow tank becomes the place to check the coolant level 
without  removing the cap.
John Logan

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jul  6 09:53:43 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:53:43 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <53480.1a71dd6e.3b45c5a8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <77F22E3F43734DE598C6F64825F51316@ronpc1>

John
	I second that and it is an easy installation.   I installed a
coolant overflow bottle many years ago.   The bottle is just a second
Sunbeam windshield washer bottle mounted and squeezed into the left front
corner in front of the header tank.   I did not change the stock cap on the
header tank and it has work just fine for the past 20 years.   The coolant
comes out when hot and is sucked back in as the system cools down.  Maybe I
was lucky with that cap, many have said it would not work correctly with the
stock style cap.

	The reason I installed the recover bottle;  I was driving an event
at Watkins Glen, in a right hand turn the coolant blow out onto the left
front tire creating massive understeer.   Fortunately this was also an up
hill turn so my speed quickly dropped and tire traction returned.   I did
not put a tire off track but my next stop was the Pit area for the rest of
the afternoon.  The following year it was mandatory for all vehicle to have
a catch can at this driving event.  Safety first and always.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Carmods at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:05 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question


Just a comment about the coolant level in the cooling tank.

If you add an overflow tank and a cap like a Stant with a double seal  and
a toggle relief valve, you can keep the tank and radiator  absolutely full
at all times so that;
    *   the radiator is always full of coolant and all of the  radiator
core is used.
    *   there will be no aeration of the coolant to degrade the waterpump
efficiency.
    *   when the engine gets hot, the over flow coolant is saved and
returned to  the tank during cool down rather than on the road or track.
    *   the overflow tank becomes the place to check the coolant level
without  removing the cap.
John Logan
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 10:21:55 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:21:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
Message-ID: <60976.7fe0c478.3b45e5a3@aol.com>

Is the overflow bottle just fed from the rubber tube  on the stock overflow 
tank? Does it have to be sealed in some way? Any pictures  or diagrams 
available?
M 
 
 
In a message dated 7/6/2011 12:10:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rfraser at bluefrog.com writes:

John
I second that and it is an easy  installation.   I installed a
coolant overflow bottle many years  ago.   The bottle is just a second
Sunbeam windshield washer  bottle mounted and squeezed into the left front
corner in front of the  header tank.   I did not change the stock cap on the
header tank  and it has work just fine for the past 20 years.   The  coolant
comes out when hot and is sucked back in as the system cools  down.  Maybe I
was lucky with that cap, many have said it would not  work correctly with 
the
stock style cap.

The reason I  installed the recover bottle;  I was driving an event
at Watkins Glen,  in a right hand turn the coolant blow out onto the left
front tire creating  massive understeer.   Fortunately this was also an up
hill turn  so my speed quickly dropped and tire traction returned.   I  did
not put a tire off track but my next stop was the Pit area for the rest  of
the afternoon.  The following year it was mandatory for all vehicle  to have
a catch can at this driving event.  Safety first and  always.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From:  tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On  Behalf Of Carmods at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:05 AM
To:  tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank  question


Just a comment about the coolant level in the cooling  tank.

If you add an overflow tank and a cap like a Stant with a double  seal  and
a toggle relief valve, you can keep the tank and  radiator  absolutely full
at all times so that;
*   the radiator is always full of coolant and all of the   radiator
core is used.
*   there will be no  aeration of the coolant to degrade the waterpump
efficiency.
*   when the engine gets hot, the over flow coolant is saved  and
returned to  the tank during cool down rather than on the road or  track.
*   the overflow tank becomes the place to  check the coolant level
without  removing the cap.
John  Logan
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From milward at roadrunner.com  Wed Jul  6 11:17:05 2011
From: milward at roadrunner.com (Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:17:05 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Overflow Tank
Message-ID: <E598294EDB584CD78C2047E5CEDA4D6A@BillPC>

I have always used one of these overflow tanks to collect water from the
cooling system as it expands. I just use an old plastic quart oil container
with the transparent strip down the side so that I can check the level. Cut a
hole slightly smaller than the rubber overflow tube in the top of the
container next to the pouring neck and slide the tube in until it is lying on
the bottom of the container (you don't want it jammed against the bottom when
it is sucking the water back into the system). Put the cap on tight and make
sure you drill an 1/8 " hole in the cap to relieve air pressure as the coolent
overflows into the container. If you don't the container gets really big!
Fill the header tank completely and fill you new overflow about 2" deep. Then
you just drop it in betweem the header tank and the radiator.

For purist shows I just pull out the tube and remove the container; the tube
just drops down and the car looks stock.  Works perfectly.

Bill Rogers

From choffman9 at cinci.rr.com  Wed Jul  6 11:26:13 2011
From: choffman9 at cinci.rr.com (Curt Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:26:13 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Lug Nut torque
Message-ID: <009a01cc3c01$ce5a4cc0$6b0ee640$@cinci.rr.com>

Know this was discussed previously but I can't seem to find. Does anyone
have the correct torque for the lug nuts on Panasport wheels on the Tiger?

curt

From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 11:44:53 2011
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:44:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Overflow Tank
In-Reply-To: <E598294EDB584CD78C2047E5CEDA4D6A@BillPC>
References: <E598294EDB584CD78C2047E5CEDA4D6A@BillPC>
Message-ID: <2A76CF9D-1E59-4240-A31B-4F6911A05751@gmail.com>

I do the same using a bicycle water bottle.  it was my final cooling fix....

On Jul 6, 2011, at 13:17, "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories"
<milward at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> I have always used one of these overflow tanks to collect water from the
> cooling system as it expands. I just use an old plastic quart oil container
> with the transparent strip down the side so that I can check the level. Cut
a
> hole slightly smaller than the rubber overflow tube in the top of the
> container next to the pouring neck and slide the tube in until it is lying
on
> the bottom of the container (you don't want it jammed against the bottom
when
> it is sucking the water back into the system). Put the cap on tight and
make
> sure you drill an 1/8 " hole in the cap to relieve air pressure as the
coolent
> overflows into the container. If you don't the container gets really big!
> Fill the header tank completely and fill you new overflow about 2" deep.
Then
> you just drop it in betweem the header tank and the radiator.
>
> For purist shows I just pull out the tube and remove the container; the
tube
> just drops down and the car looks stock.  Works perfectly.
>
> Bill Rogers
> _______________________________________________
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jul  6 12:17:03 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:17:03 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question
In-Reply-To: <60976.7fe0c478.3b45e5a3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D5D8C17FDF54D5D892E2AC6695DD450@ronpc1>

    I simply place the rubber tube into the bottle open to the air; no top
of any kind.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: CoolVT at aol.com [mailto:CoolVT at aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:22 PM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com; Carmods at aol.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Radiator header tank question



Is the overflow bottle just fed from the rubber tube on the stock overflow
tank? Does it have to be sealed in some way? Any pictures or diagrams
available?
M

In a message dated 7/6/2011 12:10:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rfraser at bluefrog.com writes:

John
    I second that and it is an easy installation.   I installed a
coolant overflow bottle many years ago.   The bottle is just a second
Sunbeam windshield washer bottle mounted and squeezed into the left front
corner in front of the header tank.   I did not change the stock cap on the
header tank and it has work just fine for the past 20 years.   The coolant
comes out when hot and is sucked back in as the system cools down.  Maybe I
was lucky with that cap, many have said it would not work correctly with the
stock style cap.

    The reason I installed the recover bottle;  I was driving an event
at Watkins Glen, in a right hand turn the coolant blow out onto the left
front tire creating massive understeer.   Fortunately this was also an up
hill turn so my speed quickly dropped and tire traction returned.   I did
not put a tire off track but my next stop was the Pit area for the rest of
the afternoon.  The following year it was mandatory for all vehicle to have
a catch can at this driving event.  Safety first and always.

Ron Fraser

From CoolVT at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 12:23:00 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:23:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Overflow Tank
Message-ID: <678af.4e3d2cfb.3b460204@aol.com>

Is the highest point of the heating core lower than  the highest point of 
the expansion tank?
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 7/6/2011 1:42:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
milward at roadrunner.com writes:

I have  always used one of these overflow tanks to collect water from the
cooling  system as it expands. I just use an old plastic quart oil container
with  the transparent strip down the side so that I can check the level. 
Cut  a
hole slightly smaller than the rubber overflow tube in the top of  the
container next to the pouring neck and slide the tube in until it is  lying 
on
the bottom of the container (you don't want it jammed against the  bottom 
when
it is sucking the water back into the system). Put the cap on  tight and 
make
sure you drill an 1/8 " hole in the cap to relieve air  pressure as the 
coolent
overflows into the container. If you don't the  container gets really big!
Fill the header tank completely and fill you new  overflow about 2" deep. 
Then
you just drop it in betweem the header tank  and the radiator.

For purist shows I just pull out the tube and remove  the container; the 
tube
just drops down and the car looks stock.   Works perfectly.

Bill  Rogers
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From cmccann at lwpb.com  Wed Jul  6 12:28:12 2011
From: cmccann at lwpb.com (Cullen McCann)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:28:12 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] odd project - beam racer?
Message-ID: <4419C83983D4FB47AADD6847090647338C8D709D5F@LWPB-EX1.LWPB.local>

Hey friends...

Here is an oddball project. This came up on my barnfinds.com subscription, and
it's on eBay so you may have already seen it. FUGLY...I hope it has some huge
racing heritage otherwise id have to pass for many reasons...but I kinda take
a portion of this as good news. The seller wants 7 grand for it and states
that he doesn't know if its real. ( doesn't look like it to me...floor boards,
trans tunnel etc are all wrong...) but the good news is the barn finds.com
editors think it would be a steal at 7 grand if it were legit. Also, the
editors say Tigers are "much sought after and command high prices.."

Thought that commentary was good exposure for the mark in general....maybe?

There you go...

Cullen
1452 LROFE

From cmccann at lwpb.com  Wed Jul  6 12:29:00 2011
From: cmccann at lwpb.com (Cullen McCann)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:29:00 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] whoops, here is the link
Message-ID: <4419C83983D4FB47AADD6847090647338C8D709D60@LWPB-EX1.LWPB.local>

Sorry.... Here is the link to the barnfinds site and its on ebay:

barnfinds.com/could-be-real-1966-sunbeam-tiger<http://www.barnfinds.com/could
-be-real-1966-sunbeam-tiger?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&ut
m_content=766718&utm_campaign=0>

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Jul  6 13:36:10 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:36:10 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Overflow Tank
In-Reply-To: <678af.4e3d2cfb.3b460204@aol.com>
Message-ID: <601D9F83E89D4647B5E21725960E0C21@ronpc1>

Mark
	The header tank is lower than the heater core by a couple inches.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of CoolVT at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:23 PM
To: milward at roadrunner.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overflow Tank


Is the highest point of the heating core lower than  the highest point of
the expansion tank?
Mark


In a message dated 7/6/2011 1:42:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
milward at roadrunner.com writes:

I have  always used one of these overflow tanks to collect water from the
cooling  system as it expands. I just use an old plastic quart oil container
with  the transparent strip down the side so that I can check the level.
Cut  a
hole slightly smaller than the rubber overflow tube in the top of  the
container next to the pouring neck and slide the tube in until it is  lying
on
the bottom of the container (you don't want it jammed against the  bottom
when
it is sucking the water back into the system). Put the cap on  tight and
make
sure you drill an 1/8 " hole in the cap to relieve air  pressure as the
coolent
overflows into the container. If you don't the  container gets really big!
Fill the header tank completely and fill you new  overflow about 2" deep.
Then
you just drop it in betweem the header tank  and the radiator.

For purist shows I just pull out the tube and remove  the container; the
tube
just drops down and the car looks stock.   Works perfectly.

Bill  Rogers
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 17:12:37 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:12:37 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] Overflow Tank
In-Reply-To: <2A76CF9D-1E59-4240-A31B-4F6911A05751@gmail.com>
References: <E598294EDB584CD78C2047E5CEDA4D6A@BillPC>
	<2A76CF9D-1E59-4240-A31B-4F6911A05751@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snUDUayN+btwpbMu=hLRjk17WsTuGRYg3_=jGHHMs+SQKA@mail.gmail.com>

You could use one of the Repro ROOTES washer bottles from SS that way
it would look factory!   :-)

On 07/07/2011, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> I do the same using a bicycle water bottle.  it was my final cooling fix....
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 13:17, "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories"
> <milward at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> For purist shows I just pull out the tube and remove the container; the
> tube
>> just drops down and the car looks stock.  Works perfectly.

-- 
Regards

Michael King

From awtiger at cox.net  Thu Jul  7 21:41:09 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:41:09 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Plug wires
Message-ID: <4BBDC4236C8146B49776730C20A05E3B@awtigerPC>

Guys:

I'm going to slap a well-deserved major tune-up on my Tiger and I've got a
question about plug wires.  First, let me say that I want to keep the stock
look; no wild-colored wires or crap like that.  I want stock-looking black
wires.  I also want them to be cut to the right length to fit a small-block
Ford, not a universal set that'll fit everything from a 260 to a 427
side-oiler.  Over the years, I've been buying "Belden" plug wires from NAPA
with great results.  However, I ordered a set from my local NAPA dealer today
and, when they got there, they were blue in color.

I realize that this may seem a bit picky to a lot of you, but I'm extremely
interested in keeping my car as stock-appearing as possible.  Does anyone have
any suggestions on where I could get correctly-sized wires in black???

Nit-picky in Edmond, OK,
Andy Walker
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jul  7 06:26:06 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:26:06 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Plug wires
In-Reply-To: <4BBDC4236C8146B49776730C20A05E3B@awtigerPC>
Message-ID: <78D6627B418747E39096BE963E0C64F7@ronpc1>

Andy
	The Mustang catalogs list Concourse type spark plug wire sets.  They
should be black but I have no idea about the fit.

Your other choice would be to buy bulk spark plug wire and end parts to make
your own set to fit.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of awtiger
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:41 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Plug wires


Guys:

I'm going to slap a well-deserved major tune-up on my Tiger and I've got a
question about plug wires.  First, let me say that I want to keep the stock
look; no wild-colored wires or crap like that.  I want stock-looking black
wires.  I also want them to be cut to the right length to fit a small-block
Ford, not a universal set that'll fit everything from a 260 to a 427
side-oiler.  Over the years, I've been buying "Belden" plug wires from NAPA
with great results.  However, I ordered a set from my local NAPA dealer
today and, when they got there, they were blue in color.

I realize that this may seem a bit picky to a lot of you, but I'm extremely
interested in keeping my car as stock-appearing as possible.  Does anyone
have any suggestions on where I could get correctly-sized wires in black???

Nit-picky in Edmond, OK,
Andy Walker
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740
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From wwwdg at webtv.net  Thu Jul  7 11:18:59 2011
From: wwwdg at webtv.net (David or Gary)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:18:59 GMT
Subject: [Tigers] Plug wires
Message-ID: <BAY148-ds190D796A6C13477B4E3794AD410@phx.gbl>

I sold D6PZ-12259-A  (WR3800-A) wire sets in the 1980's for Tigers,
They fit petty good, but are now obsolete. Did a search and found a
Dealer with a few sets.

http://www.rearcounter.com/D6PZ-12259-A-parts73112.html

Or if you want "original" try these.

http://shop.autocraftinvestments.com/index.php?p=product&id=101413&parent=2872
David Franchi

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 15:39:12 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:39:12 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] whoops, here is the link (Barn find)
References: <4419C83983D4FB47AADD6847090647338C8D709D60@LWPB-EX1.LWPB.local>
Message-ID: <9BE950CF2ED44056B7F3F626A54C4EE7@student2>

In the second picture down (at Barn Find) I blocked the view of the front 
end with my hand and it looked like a Nash Metropolitan, - roof removed with 
strange wheel well modifications. But I guess in this automotive Rorschach 
Test we might all see something different. If nothing else it represents a 
"period piece" for Sunbeams.

Maybe the VIN information provided will be valuable to Norm.

Tom 

From mjsutter at cox.net  Thu Jul  7 17:41:24 2011
From: mjsutter at cox.net (Mike and Jeri Sutter)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:41:24 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Tach
Message-ID: <34D14C48A952424AB521D9106B4B1412@SutterPC>

Does anyone need, or know someone who needs a Tiger Tachometer?

 I have the original out of my Mk1A #2475. I no longer have the car. I
replaced this original unit with a modified Alpine tach and subsequently sold
the car.

I found the tach in the shop about a year ago. It worked when removed from the
car way back when. The face is excellent, the interior behind the face is
shedding the flat white paint. The needle is faded. Glass is good. The bezel
has a tiny deformation.

For sale, make me an offer. Its in So Cal.

I'll send pics if you send me an email.

M Sutter Ramona CA
mjsutter at cox.net

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 19:47:02 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <1173085849.198609.1309846548570.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1310089622.69244.YahooMailClassic@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for everyones patience. I sanded off the paint earlier and the paint code is 19 (nineteen) I hope that is a red of some sort as the black on top is peeling and the red appears orginal. The car was a 2 owner according to the Rootes mechanic who bought the car after a lady traded it in. The orginal oil change/log book is still with the car. It is rough and I do have a wanna be owner coming from Chicago next Wed. to take a look see. The car is rough and has plenty of rust. If TRUE the engine(orginal) has approximately 10k after a rebuild. The air cleaner was missing but it has a F4B that I believe was an option- is there a way to tell an optional F4B from a latter add on??? I would also appreciate any personal thoughts on the value of the car. It is all there except for the air cleaner and I have a spare. I did remove the fan shroud but will replace it if he meets my asking price- that mentioned. I would appreciate any and everyones opinion of what a
 pretty dam rough BUT all there with orginal rivets, hard top and plenty of money to be invested is worth. You can respond off list if you prefer BUT please respond. I dont want to rape anyone , especially myself. I know epay is the place to get the best price but epay just isnt one of my faves.
Thanks in advance as usual.
TonytheTiger who is looking forward to seeing everyone in Ind. at the TE/AE United in Oct.

From awtiger at cox.net  Fri Jul  8 21:07:53 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 22:07:53 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <1310089622.69244.YahooMailClassic@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1310089622.69244.YahooMailClassic@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6E176185A6464937A61A1DC9A091C814@awtigerPC>

Tony:

I hate to burst your bubble, but paint code #19 is Moonstone.

Andy Walker
Edmond, Ok
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

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From: "Tony Somebody" <achd73 at yahoo.com>
To: <genepadgett at comcast.net>
Cc: "Beamclub" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] paint code 19


> Thanks for everyones patience. I sanded off the paint earlier and the 
> paint code is 19 (nineteen) I hope that is a red of some sort as the black 
> on top is peeling and the red appears orginal. The car was a 2 owner 
> according to the Rootes mechanic who bought the car after a lady traded it 
> in. The orginal oil change/log book is still with the car. It is rough and 
> I do have a wanna be owner coming from Chicago next Wed. to take a look 
> see. The car is rough and has plenty of rust. If TRUE the engine(orginal) 
> has approximately 10k after a rebuild. The air cleaner was missing but it 
> has a F4B that I believe was an option- is there a way to tell an optional 
> F4B from a latter add on??? I would also appreciate any personal thoughts 
> on the value of the car. It is all there except for the air cleaner and I 
> have a spare. I did remove the fan shroud but will replace it if he meets 
> my asking price- that mentioned. I would appreciate any and everyones 
> opinion of what a
> pretty dam rough BUT all there with orginal rivets, hard top and plenty of 
> money to be invested is worth. You can respond off list if you prefer BUT 
> please respond. I dont want to rape anyone , especially myself. I know 
> epay is the place to get the best price but epay just isnt one of my 
> faves.
> Thanks in advance as usual.
> TonytheTiger who is looking forward to seeing everyone in Ind. at the 
> TE/AE United in Oct.
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jul  7 21:58:20 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:58:20 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <1310089622.69244.YahooMailClassic@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2F021E06AC1A486D99D1E9D25E1B5742@ronpc1>

Tony
	Paint code 19 is Moonstone; a shade of white.

The Tiger red paint codes are 39 - Carnival Red & 122 - Signal Red

Rootes also carried 26 - Pippin Red, 28 - Calypso Red, 41 - Ember Red, 55 -
Venetian Red, 59 Toledo Red, 85 - Tartan Red, 98 - Riverside Red, 137 -
Firebrand Red, 156 - Sure Fire Red, 165 - Imperial Red, 175 - Deep Mango Red
Metallic.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Tony Somebody
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:47 PM
To: genepadgett at comcast.net
Cc: Beamclub
Subject: Re: [Tigers] paint code 19


Thanks for everyones patience. I sanded off the paint earlier and the paint
code is 19 (nineteen) I hope that is a red of some sort as the black on top
is peeling and the red appears orginal. The car was a 2 owner according to
the Rootes mechanic who bought the car after a lady traded it in. The
orginal oil change/log book is still with the car. It is rough and I do have
a wanna be owner coming from Chicago next Wed. to take a look see. The car
is rough and has plenty of rust. If TRUE the engine(orginal) has
approximately 10k after a rebuild. The air cleaner was missing but it has a
F4B that I believe was an option- is there a way to tell an optional F4B
from a latter add on??? I would also appreciate any personal thoughts on the
value of the car. It is all there except for the air cleaner and I have a
spare. I did remove the fan shroud but will replace it if he meets my asking
price- that mentioned. I would appreciate any and everyones opinion of what
a  pretty dam rough BUT all there with orginal rivets, hard top and plenty
of money to be invested is worth. You can respond off list if you prefer BUT
please respond. I dont want to rape anyone , especially myself. I know epay
is the place to get the best price but epay just isnt one of my faves.
Thanks in advance as usual. TonytheTiger who is looking forward to seeing
everyone in Ind. at the TE/AE United in Oct.
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 23:47:48 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <2F021E06AC1A486D99D1E9D25E1B5742@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <1310104068.5979.YahooMailClassic@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

THANKS Ron and All others who responded to the paint code 19. I have not
searched for a place that would have been hard for the person who sprayed the
red to have missed the Moonstone. Surely there is someplace they didnt cover
with red but I havent made a serious inspection. Its really a moot point to me
but many puriest like red. I have a red Mk1a(#39)that has white, some black,
primer, bits of surface rust but no red. Its funny how much it cost to paint a
car at todays prices and in the mid 60s for $200 you could get a top of the
line paint job- well in my memory, which often fails the older I get. I often
think I have beginning stages of oldtimers before I reach 60. My last Aunt
passed away in late May, 9 days before she turned 96. She remembered life like
it was yesterday from many years back but as for yesterday, she didnt remember
what she ate OR if she ate. Such a sad disease and becoming more prevelant
daily- if I remember.
Thanks again.
TonytheTiger

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] paint code 19
> To: acchd73 at yahoo.com, genepadgett at comcast.net
> Cc: "'Beamclub'" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 10:58 PM
> Tony
>     Paint code 19 is Moonstone; a shade of
> white.
>
> The Tiger red paint codes are 39 - Carnival Red & 122 -
> Signal Red
>
> Rootes also carried 26 - Pippin Red, 28 - Calypso Red, 41 -
> Ember Red, 55 -
> Venetian Red, 59 Toledo Red, 85 - Tartan Red, 98 -
> Riverside Red, 137 -
> Firebrand Red, 156 - Sure Fire Red, 165 - Imperial Red, 175
> - Deep Mango Red
> Metallic.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Tony Somebody
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:47 PM
> To: genepadgett at comcast.net
> Cc: Beamclub
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] paint code 19
>
>
> Thanks for everyones patience. I sanded off the paint
> earlier and the paint
> code is 19 (nineteen) I hope that is a red of some sort as
> the black on top
> is peeling and the red appears orginal. The car was a 2
> owner according to
> the Rootes mechanic who bought the car after a lady traded
> it in. The
> orginal oil change/log book is still with the car. It is
> rough and I do have
> a wanna be owner coming from Chicago next Wed. to take a
> look see. The car
> is rough and has plenty of rust. If TRUE the
> engine(orginal) has
> approximately 10k after a rebuild. The air cleaner was
> missing but it has a
> F4B that I believe was an option- is there a way to tell an
> optional F4B
> from a latter add on??? I would also appreciate any
> personal thoughts on the
> value of the car. It is all there except for the air
> cleaner and I have a
> spare. I did remove the fan shroud but will replace it if
> he meets my asking
> price- that mentioned. I would appreciate any and everyones
> opinion of what
> a  pretty dam rough BUT all there with orginal rivets,
> hard top and plenty
> of money to be invested is worth. You can respond off list
> if you prefer BUT
> please respond. I dont want to rape anyone , especially
> myself. I know epay
> is the place to get the best price but epay just isnt one
> of my faves.
> Thanks in advance as usual. TonytheTiger who is looking
> forward to seeing
> everyone in Ind. at the TE/AE United in Oct.
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 01:05:58 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:05:58 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <1310104068.5979.YahooMailClassic@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <2F021E06AC1A486D99D1E9D25E1B5742@ronpc1>
	<1310104068.5979.YahooMailClassic@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snVNO744+w1pBLNb-hHax9RSPah-bqUJ33uh=T+xay2v7g@mail.gmail.com>

Tony.. back in the 60's you could buy the whole tiger brand new for
under 4K!! and a set of LAt wheels for $48 and a LAt hood for 135! so
200 for painting a whole car was probably even cheap then!

" Its funny how much it cost to paint a
car at todays prices and in the mid 60s for $200 you could get a top of the
line paint job- well in my memory, which often fails the older I get. I often
think I have beginning stages of oldtimers before I reach 60."

-- 
Regards

Michael King

From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 07:27:11 2011
From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:27:11 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snVNO744+w1pBLNb-hHax9RSPah-bqUJ33uh=T+xay2v7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2F021E06AC1A486D99D1E9D25E1B5742@ronpc1>
	<1310104068.5979.YahooMailClassic@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAET8snVNO744+w1pBLNb-hHax9RSPah-bqUJ33uh=T+xay2v7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADz+TtdjY74JV+6apH3-yusQhdXNm6T-UDZTti+Q1rbbWW6isQ@mail.gmail.com>

I recently was given a Sunbeam price list from 1965.

I had my Tiger at a car show on Monday in downtown Fredericksburg, VA (I
know, a British car on Independence Day!) and a guy walks up and we start
talking about Tigers.  He's always wanted one, but no luck.  He tells me
that he has some Sunbeam documentation and that a "real Tiger owner" should
have it.  So I gave him my address and thought no more about it.  Wednesday
morning he dropped off the package while I was at work.  OMG!  Inside a
Sunbeam Manilla mail folder (with $0.12 postage!) is a spotless 1965 color
Tiger tri-fold, a Sunbeam Competition and Performance Parts bi-fold, a
Sunbeam price sheet, a 4 page color folder of Sunbeam optional
accessories, a "Tale of the Tiger," and  reprints (by Sunbeam) of Tiger
reviews from various magazines!

The guy called me to make sure that I got it and I thanked him profusely.

Keep on Tigering!

 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:05 AM, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>wrote:

> Tony.. back in the 60's you could buy the whole tiger brand new for
> under 4K!! and a set of LAt wheels for $48 and a LAt hood for 135! so
> 200 for painting a whole car was probably even cheap then!
>
> " Its funny how much it cost to paint a
> car at todays prices and in the mid 60s for $200 you could get a top of the
> line paint job- well in my memory, which often fails the older I get. I
> often
> think I have beginning stages of oldtimers before I reach 60."
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
>  _______________________________________________
> --

From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jul  8 08:58:08 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (allanballard at att.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:58:08 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <CADz+TtdjY74JV+6apH3-yusQhdXNm6T-UDZTti+Q1rbbWW6isQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2F021E06AC1A486D99D1E9D25E1B5742@ronpc1>
	<1310104068.5979.YahooMailClassic@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAET8snVNO744+w1pBLNb-hHax9RSPah-bqUJ33uh=T+xay2v7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADz+TtdjY74JV+6apH3-yusQhdXNm6T-UDZTti+Q1rbbWW6isQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B78F1374-D7DC-42E6-9879-F395252BABBE@att.net>

Wow that's cool!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Jim Sencindiver <jd.sencindiver at gmail.com> wrote:

> I recently was given a Sunbeam price list from 1965.
>
> I had my Tiger at a car show on Monday in downtown Fredericksburg, VA (I
> know, a British car on Independence Day!) and a guy walks up and we start
> talking about Tigers.  He's always wanted one, but no luck.  He tells me
> that he has some Sunbeam documentation and that a "real Tiger owner" should
> have it.  So I gave him my address and thought no more about it.  Wednesday
> morning he dropped off the package while I was at work.  OMG!  Inside a
> Sunbeam Manilla mail folder (with $0.12 postage!) is a spotless 1965 color
> Tiger tri-fold, a Sunbeam Competition and Performance Parts bi-fold, a
> Sunbeam price sheet, a 4 page color folder of Sunbeam optional
> accessories, a "Tale of the Tiger," and  reprints (by Sunbeam) of Tiger
> reviews from various magazines!
>
> The guy called me to make sure that I got it and I thanked him profusely.
>
> Keep on Tigering!
>
> Jim Sencindiver
>
> B382100451/TAC 448
> http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:05 AM, michael king
<michael.s.king at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Tony.. back in the 60's you could buy the whole tiger brand new for
>> under 4K!! and a set of LAt wheels for $48 and a LAt hood for 135! so
>> 200 for painting a whole car was probably even cheap then!
>>
>> " Its funny how much it cost to paint a
>> car at todays prices and in the mid 60s for $200 you could get a top of
the
>> line paint job- well in my memory, which often fails the older I get. I
>> often
>> think I have beginning stages of oldtimers before I reach 60."
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Michael King
>> _______________________________________________
>> --
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Fri Jul  8 10:51:51 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:51:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <CADz+TtdjY74JV+6apH3-yusQhdXNm6T-UDZTti+Q1rbbWW6isQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <933454187.355290.1310143911698.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Jim, those are certainly great things to have obtained, particularly in great
condition. While all likely is well with all of this, I personally would be a
little extra careful about my car's safety for a while. I am normally not much
of a cynic, but a little voice is telling me one should be a little wary of
strangers that have always wanted a Tiger and are bearing gifts to where they
now know one lives.



Cheers, Gene



----- Original Message -----


From: "Jim Sencindiver" <jd.sencindiver at gmail.com>
To: "michael king" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: acchd73 at yahoo.com, "Beamclub" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 8:27:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] paint code 19

I recently was given a Sunbeam price list from 1965.

I had my Tiger at a car show on Monday in downtown Fredericksburg, VA (I
know, a British car on Independence Day!) and a guy walks up and we start
talking about Tigers. B He's always wanted one, but no luck. B He tells me
that he has some Sunbeam documentation and that a "real Tiger owner" should
have it. B So I gave him my address and thought no more about it. B Wednesday
morning he dropped off the package while I was at work. B OMG! B Inside a
Sunbeam Manilla mail folder (with $0.12 postage!) is a spotless 1965 color
Tiger tri-fold, a Sunbeam Competition and Performance Parts bi-fold, a
Sunbeam price sheet, a 4 page color folder of Sunbeam optional
accessories, a "Tale of the Tiger," and B reprints (by Sunbeam) of Tiger
reviews from various magazines!

The guy called me to make sure that I got it and I thanked him profusely.

Keep on Tigering!

B Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:05 AM, michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>wrote:

> Tony.. back in the 60's you could buy the whole tiger brand new for
> under 4K!! and a set of LAt wheels for $48 and a LAt hood for 135! so
> 200 for painting a whole car was probably even cheap then!
>
> " Its funny how much it cost to paint a
> car at todays prices and in the mid 60s for $200 you could get a top of the
> line paint job- well in my memory, which often fails the older I get. I
> often
> think I have beginning stages of oldtimers before I reach 60."
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
> B _______________________________________________
> --
_______________________________________________

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From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 11:11:09 2011
From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:11:09 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] paint code 19
In-Reply-To: <933454187.355290.1310143911698.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <CADz+TtdjY74JV+6apH3-yusQhdXNm6T-UDZTti+Q1rbbWW6isQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<933454187.355290.1310143911698.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CADz+TtfWbVKRG9eXn66vXh1=WAHWkmyc_bD4ZshOyA1Ah9dqgA@mail.gmail.com>

Gene,

My Tiger resides in a locked, single car detached garage inside a 6 foot
privacy fence with a locked gate.  Thanks for your concern; I had not even
considered that issue!

I'm usually a good judge of character and this guy did not set off any alarm
bells in my head.  Perhaps that's why I had not considered the issue.

For those that would like to get a peak at the documents, as soon as I
convince one of my IT friends to help me out with the color scanning, I plan
to send scans of everything to TigersUnited.com.  I don't have a site I can
post them to and TigersUnited.com is THE place to go to for Tiger info on
the web.
Keep on Tigering!
Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:51 PM, <genepadgett at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Jim, those are certainly great things to have obtained, particularly in
> great condition. While all likely is well with all of this, I personally
> would be a little extra careful about my car's safety for a while. I am
> normally not much of a cynic, but a little voice is telling me one should be
> a little wary of strangers that have always wanted a Tiger and are bearing
> gifts to where they now know one lives.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Gene
>
>  ------------------------------

From rande at thecia.net  Fri Jul  8 14:35:30 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:35:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
Message-ID: <4e176a12.f98.0@thecia.net>

Has anyone ever been shut off from using paypal after spending $$$ until they
were "verified" by giving paypal a bank account number, even as an exclusive
buyer only?. If so, were you successful getting them to override this nonsense?

From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jul  8 14:54:05 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:54:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <34D14C48A952424AB521D9106B4B1412@SutterPC>
References: <34D14C48A952424AB521D9106B4B1412@SutterPC>
Message-ID: <DDC7BDBD-AF03-4580-B84E-2D2F21E69178@att.net>

Temporarily I'd like to extend the driving range of my Tiger beyond the limits
of the 13 gallon tanks.

Obviously a fuel cell or bladder is an option although expensive and
permanent.

So I wondered about a 10 gallon can of gas placed in the trunk and used when
needed.

I've traveled with gas in a storage container in the trunk of my Alpine out
west but the Alpine doesn't have a battery in the trunk.

Is travel with a storage container of gasoline in the trunk of a Tiger safe?

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger

From stubrennan at comcast.net  Fri Jul  8 15:56:10 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:56:10 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
In-Reply-To: <4e176a12.f98.0@thecia.net>
Message-ID: <000001cc3db9$dbcad910$6501a8c0@Brennan>

I believe there are some scams around with a scenario like this.  I've
received a couple saying there was a problem with this or that account,
and asking for some numbers to verify things, but I DON'T HAVE an
account with that outfit.  I think one was Paypal.

Stu

From crbernardino at mac.com  Fri Jul  8 16:49:10 2011
From: crbernardino at mac.com (Rob Bernardino)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:49:10 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <DDC7BDBD-AF03-4580-B84E-2D2F21E69178@att.net>
References: <34D14C48A952424AB521D9106B4B1412@SutterPC>
	<DDC7BDBD-AF03-4580-B84E-2D2F21E69178@att.net>
Message-ID: <6E549234-84D7-4BC2-B489-098CA4F74DBD@mac.com>

I would err on the side of safety and say no. I commute 25 miles each day in my Tiger and have recently found the best fix is increase you mpg. Inflate the tires higher, run a hardtop. Actually the best fix was fortuitous. Car was recently stalling and had the MDS system switched out for petronix. That and perhaps running the car on the lean side gives me 17-18 mpg. 
Rob in Carmel

C. Robert Bernardino MD FACS
Oculoplastics and Aesthetic Surgery
Vantage Eye Center
Monterey, CA
www.vantageeye.com

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Allan Ballard <allanballard at att.net> wrote:

> Temporarily I'd like to extend the driving range of my Tiger beyond the limits
> of the 13 gallon tanks.
> 
> Obviously a fuel cell or bladder is an option although expensive and
> permanent.
> 
> So I wondered about a 10 gallon can of gas placed in the trunk and used when
> needed.
> 
> I've traveled with gas in a storage container in the trunk of my Alpine out
> west but the Alpine doesn't have a battery in the trunk.
> 
> Is travel with a storage container of gasoline in the trunk of a Tiger safe?
> 
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
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> 
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From AAAGLASSS at aol.com  Fri Jul  8 17:08:53 2011
From: AAAGLASSS at aol.com (AAAGLASSS at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:08:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
Message-ID: <5df0.2ca2ba60.3b48e805@aol.com>

Agreed. Any thing connected with Pay-Pay or E-Bay should be verified.  
Forward your the mail you get to,
_spoof at ebay.com_ (mailto:spoof at ebay.com) . They will reply as to  what the 
e-mail is.
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2011 4:02:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
stubrennan at comcast.net writes:

I  believe there are some scams around with a scenario like this.   I've
received a couple saying there was a problem with this or that  account,
and asking for some numbers to verify things, but I DON'T HAVE  an
account with that outfit.  I think one was  Paypal.

Stu
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From stubrennan at comcast.net  Fri Jul  8 17:09:18 2011
From: stubrennan at comcast.net (Stu Brennan)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:09:18 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <DDC7BDBD-AF03-4580-B84E-2D2F21E69178@att.net>
Message-ID: <000001cc3dc4$11097aa0$6501a8c0@Brennan>

Now this is just my opinion, but I think carrying an unsecured 10 gallon
gas can inside any car isn't particularly safe.  A pickup, safer
probably, but not in a car.  Think of the accident scenario, the can
bouncing around, possibly getting holed...  Our two tanks and the
crossover pipe are risky enough, thanks.

As I recall TigerTom had a gas tank from a German Capri in his Tow
Tiger.  This is the one that goes right behind the Capri rear seatbacks.
It was installed in his trunk, plumbed into the system so that all three
tanks filled from the stock filler.  At least that one was secured...

Stu

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:54 PM
To: Tiger Talk List Tiger
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range


Temporarily I'd like to extend the driving range of my Tiger beyond the
limits of the 13 gallon tanks.

Obviously a fuel cell or bladder is an option although expensive and
permanent.

So I wondered about a 10 gallon can of gas placed in the trunk and used
when needed.

I've traveled with gas in a storage container in the trunk of my Alpine
out west but the Alpine doesn't have a battery in the trunk.

Is travel with a storage container of gasoline in the trunk of a Tiger
safe?

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Fri Jul  8 17:20:26 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:20:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
Message-ID: <3ce3a.1abcb74a.3b48eaba@aol.com>

Had the same thing recently, but they wanted me to  verify my address. 
Don't think I'd answer their emails because you have no idea  if it's PayPal or 
not.  Log into their site and verify your credit card  #.  That should do 
it.  Surely wouldn't give them a bank acct.  #.
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2011 5:33:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rande at thecia.net writes:

Has  anyone ever been shut off from using paypal after spending $$$ until  
they
were "verified" by giving paypal a bank account number, even as an  
exclusive
buyer only?. If so, were you successful getting them to override  this  
nonsense?
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Fri Jul  8 17:41:57 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:41:57 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <DDC7BDBD-AF03-4580-B84E-2D2F21E69178@att.net>
Message-ID: <89BDEFC4271C4F059A69803FF4DD99B2@ronpc1>

Allan
	Tiger Tom added an early Alpine gas tank to the fuel system on his
tow Tiger.  Everything filled from the stock filler.  I'm not sure how much
fuel capacity that added but I think its around 10 gallons.   If you add a
tank you should plump it into the fuel system somehow.   A spare container
knocking around the trunk area is not safe IMO.
	I helped a friend do this on a big Mercury many years ago.  I had a
fuel tank and filler tube from a 71 Datsun 510 and we fabricated a mount to
secure it in the trunk.  He bought an electric fitting to plump the 2 tanks
together.   When the engine started to sputter and stall; hit the switch and
tank #2 fed the engine.

	The best way to extend your range is to get the most mpg per gallon
you can get.  If you have a stock 260 you should be able to get 22 or more
mpg.   There are many factors to get better mpg; a good tune up is one but
fuel quality is one of the biggest as you cross through the states.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:54 PM
To: Tiger Talk List Tiger
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range


Temporarily I'd like to extend the driving range of my Tiger beyond the
limits of the 13 gallon tanks.

Obviously a fuel cell or bladder is an option although expensive and
permanent.

So I wondered about a 10 gallon can of gas placed in the trunk and used when
needed.

I've traveled with gas in a storage container in the trunk of my Alpine out
west but the Alpine doesn't have a battery in the trunk.

Is travel with a storage container of gasoline in the trunk of a Tiger safe?

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
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From allanballard at att.net  Fri Jul  8 19:04:14 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:04:14 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <89BDEFC4271C4F059A69803FF4DD99B2@ronpc1>
References: <89BDEFC4271C4F059A69803FF4DD99B2@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <285EC7FD-A585-458F-9B91-1EF5ADD2FB12@att.net>

Thanks Ron, everyone,

I'm familiar with 'good tuneup' and 'fully inflate the tires' but it's good to
be reminded. Running with the hard top had not occurred to me.

I'd try running leaner but my Edelbrock 4 bbl only has idle adjustments; I
think that means it can't be leaned out?

Driving across South Dakota to SUNI in the Alpine with 100 miles or so between
gas stations was a nervous drive,  but
the couple gallons of "emergency gas" in a container well secured in the trunk
provided a little assurance.

Now I am eyeing a trip in the Tiger, doing some planning, thinking about a
long drive out west to include another remote area,
Seattle to Spokane and onwards through Glacier National Park then proceeding
east  along US 2 as it parallels the border.

Did I say remote?

I suspect the area flanking Glacier is the most remote area in the country,
making it a highly desirable drive to make,
preferably with the top down.

No idea as to the distance between gas stations, not sure how to find out "for
sure."

My Tiger is back together and now has about 2500 miles on the new 5 bolt 289.
It is a performance motor about comparable to the 289 HIPO from back in the
day, dynoed at 241 rear wheel bhp at 5500 RPM making 300 # torque mostly there
by 3000 RPM.

That's a great motor for around town and quite nice on the highway as well but
it is a bit thirsty turning too many RPM's for economy even with the stock
2.88 and top-loader.

I don't like the idea of non-stock appearing alternatives but may have to bite
the bullet on this one and add a cell. Perhaps a cell could be plumbed so as
to be removable and re-installable as needed?

Also the 5 speed gearbox that I've read about would be quite helpful, turning
~2000 RPM at 70 with the stock 2.88 but it's expensive and the shifter doesn't
look stock. The tunnel also needs a small widening.

So, from the comments, the main concerns are not with the nearby battery, but
with a loose can banging around, possibly being holed whether in a possible
wreck or not.

To that I would add the possibility of unvented fumes encountering a spark or
some unfortunate jolt from the battery.

Allan Ballard
Atlanta, GA
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine


On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Ron Fraser wrote:

> Allan
> 	Tiger Tom added an early Alpine gas tank to the fuel system on his
> tow Tiger.  Everything filled from the stock filler.  I'm not sure how much
> fuel capacity that added but I think its around 10 gallons.   If you add a
> tank you should plump it into the fuel system somehow.   A spare container
> knocking around the trunk area is not safe IMO.
> 	I helped a friend do this on a big Mercury many years ago.  I had a
> fuel tank and filler tube from a 71 Datsun 510 and we fabricated a mount to
> secure it in the trunk.  He bought an electric fitting to plump the 2 tanks
> together.   When the engine started to sputter and stall; hit the switch
and
> tank #2 fed the engine.
>
> 	The best way to extend your range is to get the most mpg per gallon
> you can get.  If you have a stock 260 you should be able to get 22 or more
> mpg.   There are many factors to get better mpg; a good tune up is one but
> fuel quality is one of the biggest as you cross through the states.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:54 PM
> To: Tiger Talk List Tiger
> Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
>
>
> Temporarily I'd like to extend the driving range of my Tiger beyond the
> limits of the 13 gallon tanks.
>
> Obviously a fuel cell or bladder is an option although expensive and
> permanent.
>
> So I wondered about a 10 gallon can of gas placed in the trunk and used
when
> needed.
>
> I've traveled with gas in a storage container in the trunk of my Alpine out
> west but the Alpine doesn't have a battery in the trunk.
>
> Is travel with a storage container of gasoline in the trunk of a Tiger
safe?
>
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Fri Jul  8 19:05:29 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:05:29 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
In-Reply-To: <3ce3a.1abcb74a.3b48eaba@aol.com>
References: <3ce3a.1abcb74a.3b48eaba@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E17A959.30908@mayfco.com>

  Ebay and paypal, when sending you email/correspondence, will use your 
real name to address you (that is the one you used when you set up your 
account in their secure system).  If you are receiving email without 
being addressed by your real name, it is a scam...

But, also, regards the bank transfer number, yeah, if you want instant 
purchasing with pay pal, you have to do it. Other wise you must use a 
credit card and that is even scarier.  I was reluctant many moons ago, 
but have had good service from paypal. You also need to give them a 
credit card as well.  The credit card is back up to the bank account fro 
which they transfer money to pay for what ever you bought. If the card 
expires, then they use a eCheck system to get funds and that can take up 
to a week or two to clear.  So far, I am happy with the experience. I am 
a 100% positive feed back guy also (big whoop, lol).

no, i don't work for ebay or paypal...

mayf

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204.913 mph flying mile
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On 7/8/2011 4:20 PM, CoolVT at aol.com wrote:
> Had the same thing recently, but they wanted me to  verify my address.
> Don't think I'd answer their emails because you have no idea  if it's PayPal or
> not.  Log into their site and verify your credit card  #.  That should do
> it.  Surely wouldn't give them a bank acct.  #.
> Mark
>
>
> In a message dated 7/8/2011 5:33:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> rande at thecia.net writes:
>
> Has  anyone ever been shut off from using paypal after spending $$$ until
> they
> were "verified" by giving paypal a bank account number, even as an
> exclusive
> buyer only?. If so, were you successful getting them to override  this
> nonsense?
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From laurin212 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 19:39:41 2011
From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:39:41 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
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References: <4e176a12.f98.0@thecia.net>
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i seem to recall years ago they forced me more or less into putting in my bank
account info, it was the legit paypal site.  seems they always try to default
to them having pmts come out of your bank account rather than your credit
card, as i am sure they dont wont to pay 3% to the credit card companies, but
i always over ride it and use my credit card so i can dispute if i get ripped
off.



On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:35 PM, rande wrote:

> Has anyone ever been shut off from using paypal after spending $$$ until
they
> were "verified" by giving paypal a bank account number, even as an
exclusive
> buyer only?. If so, were you successful getting them to override this
nonsense?
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From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Fri Jul  8 20:38:44 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:38:44 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <6E549234-84D7-4BC2-B489-098CA4F74DBD@mac.com>
References: <34D14C48A952424AB521D9106B4B1412@SutterPC>
	<DDC7BDBD-AF03-4580-B84E-2D2F21E69178@att.net>
	<6E549234-84D7-4BC2-B489-098CA4F74DBD@mac.com>
Message-ID: <05912604A8114BF890820B63B4B919CE@BUCK>

Allan & others,

I was in charge of the rally at this year's Tigers United. As one of the tie 
breakers,  I  used gas mileage. The MPG results I saw were bizarre.

I had every Tiger "top off" at the same station on the way to the start of 
the rally. Then they ran the route, which totaled a bit over 70 miles. At 
the end of the rally we dipped the tanks with a calibrated stick. (We also 
tracked total miles and a few were "lost" costing them an extra mile or so 
but nothing major.)

The range of gas usage shocked me. Our most efficient Tiger had 9.2 gallons 
of gas left in his tanks at the end of the rally. Most had 7 to 8. A few 
were in the 5s but one car had a bit over 3 gallons left. The guy with the 
worst mileage used two to three times the gas used by our best performer.

I think Rob has a very valid point about mixture. Like Rob, I set the main 
jets for a slightly lean freeway cruise. I shoot for 15.5 to one. I'm sure 
our last place guy could have used some jet changes. Recently a club member 
asked me to take a quick look at his Tiger which wouldn't run. It was a 
stock 260 and someone had put a 600 CFM vacuum secondary Holley on it and 
had installed 67 mains. I took a wild guess and replaced them with 62s. Now 
he says his Tiger has never run better. One of these days we'll refine his 
jetting but the idea is that once all the oxygen in the cylinder is burnt, 
pouring more gasoline in is not only wasting the gas but it's sure not going 
to help the oil with lubrication.

Two summers ago, my wife & I drove our "beater" Tiger 3500 miles in ten 
days,  to and from SUNI. Our mileage for the entire trip was a little under 
24 MPG. This was with a 5 speed so its not fair to compare it to a stock 
Tiger with a 4 speed. We have over a  300 mile range on a tank. For the trip 
we borrowed a piece of hardware from our race program, an LM-1 fuel meter. 
It reads your mixture (accurate to 1/10 from 10:1 to 20:1 while you're 
driving. On that trip I learned that the typical Holley 600 CFM vac 
secondary carb that many Tigers run was too big for a real Hi-PO 289 when we 
got above 5-thousand feet. We started at sea level and almost hit 
11-thousand feet at the top of the Bear Tooth Highway in Montana so we put 
it through a good workout. We never changed jets the entire trip and the car 
actually ran good the entire time. However it would have run better with a 
smaller carb. There simply was not enough vacuum at altitude for the carb to 
work with precision. The problem finding a better carb is most smaller 
Holleys delete the PCV port which I insist on having. There are various 
plates that insert between the manifold and the carb but then the air 
cleaner may hit the hood. Hopefully, one of these days I'll figure it out.

Before I'd think about a bigger tank I'd find a 450 CFM vac secondary Holley 
and jet it correctly. Even with a 4 speed you should get 18-20 MPG which 
gives a range in the low to mid 200s.

good luck,

bt




--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rob Bernardino" <crbernardino at mac.com>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:49 PM
To: "Allan Ballard" <allanballard at att.net>
Cc: "Tiger Talk List Tiger" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Extending driving range

> I would err on the side of safety and say no. I commute 25 miles each day 
> in my Tiger and have recently found the best fix is increase you mpg. 
> Inflate the tires higher, run a hardtop. Actually the best fix was 
> fortuitous. Car was recently stalling and had the MDS system switched out 
> for petronix. That and perhaps running the car on the lean side gives me 
> 17-18 mpg.
> Rob in Carmel
>
> C. Robert Bernardino MD FACS
> Oculoplastics and Aesthetic Surgery
> Vantage Eye Center
> Monterey, CA
> www.vantageeye.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Allan Ballard <allanballard at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Temporarily I'd like to extend the driving range of my Tiger beyond the 
>> limits
>> of the 13 gallon tanks.
>>
>> Obviously a fuel cell or bladder is an option although expensive and
>> permanent.
>>
>> So I wondered about a 10 gallon can of gas placed in the trunk and used 
>> when
>> needed.
>>
>> I've traveled with gas in a storage container in the trunk of my Alpine 
>> out
>> west but the Alpine doesn't have a battery in the trunk.
>>
>> Is travel with a storage container of gasoline in the trunk of a Tiger 
>> safe?
>>
>> Allan Ballard
>> Mk1a Tiger
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 20:41:50 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
In-Reply-To: <3ce3a.1abcb74a.3b48eaba@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1310179310.61409.YahooMailClassic@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was threatened with the same subject more than once BUT felt it was a scam
and I just ignored the email and never heard from paypal about the request. Im
sure it is a scam. You can send the email to spoof at paypal.com with a note and
they will reply.
Tony

--- On Fri, 7/8/11, CoolVT at aol.com <CoolVT at aol.com> wrote:

> From: CoolVT at aol.com <CoolVT at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
> To: rande at thecia.net, tigers at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 6:20 PM
> Had the same thing recently, but they
> wanted me to  verify my address.
> Don't think I'd answer their emails because you have no
> idea  if it's PayPal or
> not.  Log into their site and verify your credit
> card  #.  That should do
> it.  Surely wouldn't give them a bank acct.  #.
> Mark
>
>
> In a message dated 7/8/2011 5:33:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time, 
> rande at thecia.net
> writes:
>
> Has  anyone ever been shut off from using paypal after
> spending $$$ until 
> they
> were "verified" by giving paypal a bank account number,
> even as an 
> exclusive
> buyer only?. If so, were you successful getting them to
> override  this 
> nonsense?
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 20:41:55 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:41:55 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <285EC7FD-A585-458F-9B91-1EF5ADD2FB12@att.net>
References: <89BDEFC4271C4F059A69803FF4DD99B2@ronpc1>
	<285EC7FD-A585-458F-9B91-1EF5ADD2FB12@att.net>
Message-ID: <CAET8snV9K86ZMBXpnzf8Y_vs=QQYZTRMB21+oq+9YUP8dY1AUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Allan,

You could lean the edelbrock up with smaller metering rods and see
what jets you are running. When you dyno'ed it what were your AFR's?

As for the 5 speed, depends which kit you are talking. The tom Hall
kit has a stock looking shifter that comes out of the stock hole (it
does require some tunnel bashing i am told and also is not an easy oil
change) it would drop fuel consumption and make it a relaxing time for
driver and car at lower RPM.

As for MPG.. on highways at 60mph i can get my 340bhp FMS 302 with
edelbrock 4BBl, 3.07 rear and 195/60/14's to do between 24-26mpg if i
am gentle with the right foot so what MPG are you getting.. and how
heavy has your right foot been?

As for the hardtop up, at highway speeds it will make a difference,
but by the same token so will the soft top. However if you wind down
your windows you will basically loose most of the low drag advantage,
but as you have a 1A you can pop the fresh air vents and run the
blower.

Anyway just some thoughts.. fitting a suplemental tank for a single
journey does seem a lot of effort.. but i agree with everyone on the
saftey issues of a loose tank and the issue near the battery. Perhaps
a system to get a tank secured with extinguisher style clamps so stop
it from moving around in a worst case scenario?



-- 
Regards

Michael King

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Jul  9 06:34:51 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:34:51 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Extending driving range
In-Reply-To: <285EC7FD-A585-458F-9B91-1EF5ADD2FB12@att.net>
Message-ID: <4FCFCE4C7D0D4BDEA97D4FD0E516B3A9@ronpc1>

Allan
	I believe there is a meter rod tune up kit for the Edelbrock carb.

A smaller carb would probably give better mpg as will tire pressure and
checking for any brake drag at all 4 wheels.

The distributor is another place to look for mpg.  You need to know what the
advance curve is doing especially the vacuum advance part because that is
the economy side.  If you don't have vacuum advance; you need it for mpg.

	I believe there are several web site that locate fuel stations in
any area so you want that handy before venturing into remote areas.   I know
what you mean about that too.  I was driving south of the Yellowstone
National Park area when I needed some gas.   The first station I drove into
just had a power failure so no gas available.  I drove on to find another
station with the fuel needle bouncing on not much left and did fuel up.   To
close for comfort or peace of mind.

	I also do not recommend you drive through Park areas after dark.
There are few street lights, few signs to give directions and in my case I
drove by a set of glowing eyes in the dark that looked like they were 6 feet
above my car; Moose eyes I think.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Ballard [mailto:allanballard at att.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:04 PM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com
Cc: 'Tiger Talk List Tiger'
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Extending driving range


Thanks Ron, everyone,

I'm familiar with 'good tuneup' and 'fully inflate the tires' but it's good
to be reminded. Running with the hard top had not occurred to me.

I'd try running leaner but my Edelbrock 4 bbl only has idle adjustments; I
think that means it can't be leaned out?

Driving across South Dakota to SUNI in the Alpine with 100 miles or so
between gas stations was a nervous drive,  but the couple gallons of
"emergency gas" in a container well secured in the trunk provided a little
assurance.

Now I am eyeing a trip in the Tiger, doing some planning, thinking about a
long drive out west to include another remote area, Seattle to Spokane and
onwards through Glacier National Park then proceeding east  along US 2 as it
parallels the border.

Did I say remote?

I suspect the area flanking Glacier is the most remote area in the country,
making it a highly desirable drive to make, preferably with the top down.

No idea as to the distance between gas stations, not sure how to find out
"for sure."

My Tiger is back together and now has about 2500 miles on the new 5 bolt
289. It is a performance motor about comparable to the 289 HIPO from back in
the day, dynoed at 241 rear wheel bhp at 5500 RPM making 300 # torque mostly
there by 3000 RPM.

That's a great motor for around town and quite nice on the highway as well
but it is a bit thirsty turning too many RPM's for economy even with the
stock 2.88 and top-loader.

I don't like the idea of non-stock appearing alternatives but may have to
bite the bullet on this one and add a cell. Perhaps a cell could be plumbed
so as to be removable and re-installable as needed?

Also the 5 speed gearbox that I've read about would be quite helpful,
turning ~2000 RPM at 70 with the stock 2.88 but it's expensive and the
shifter doesn't look stock. The tunnel also needs a small widening.

So, from the comments, the main concerns are not with the nearby battery,
but with a loose can banging around, possibly being holed whether in a
possible wreck or not.

To that I would add the possibility of unvented fumes encountering a spark
or some unfortunate jolt from the battery.

Allan Ballard
Atlanta, GA
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

From rande at thecia.net  Sat Jul  9 07:05:35 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:05:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] off topic / paypal
Message-ID: <4e18521f.3c21.0@thecia.net>

Thanks to all for the possible scam statements. Sad to say this paypal issue
is from the genuine folks (pals?) at paypal.

The 'verification' notice popped up  directly after I went to pay for two 'buy
it now' sales on eBay. Of course, the notice would have been a little more timely
had they just sent a message PRIOR to any bidding, but that apparently wasn't
their style.

So, somehow find alternate pay plan for open sales, and longterm, open minimum
stand-alone account just for paypal with low balance. Stay tuned.

From tiger-65 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul  9 13:44:15 2011
From: tiger-65 at sbcglobal.net (Greg)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:44:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] U-Tube Video of Tiger by Discovery Channel
Message-ID: <1310240655.33676.YahooMailClassic@web83815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hello fellow Tiger owners or want-to be Tiger owners.
Here's a grrreat video I came across on U-Tube, it lasts 6.5 mins long & is from an English perspective!

Enjoy, I did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y26x6x-eAag&feature=player_embedded

Greg.

From AAAGLASSS at aol.com  Sun Jul 10 11:35:09 2011
From: AAAGLASSS at aol.com (AAAGLASSS at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Restore Your PayPal Account
Message-ID: <5ecdd.30f539e8.3b4b3ccd@aol.com>

This is a Pay-pal scam do not download.
 
 
  
____________________________________
 From: no-reply at paypal.com
Sent: 7/10/2011 8:44:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight  Time
Subj: Restore Your PayPal Account


Dear PayPal Account Holder,

As part of our security  measures, we regularly screen activity in the 
PayPal system. We recently  contacted you after noticing an issue on your 
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From bobdixon at frii.com  Mon Jul 11 19:30:11 2011
From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:30:11 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Fw: Tiger update
Message-ID: <3BEB6E689C7947699761E62C24DDBB5F@BobsDell>

I sent this out last night but never saw it show up in my inbox so I hope it 
is not a repeat.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Dixon" <bobdixon at frii.com>
To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@frii.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:41 PM
Subject: Tiger update


> Thought I would update everyone on the ol Tiger's progress.  Electrical is
> done as well as most of the mechanical.  Should be able to drive her down 
> to
> the exhaust shop in a week or so.  I obviously did not make the Pikes Peak
> Hill Climb this year.
>
> Enjoy,
> Bob
>
> Interior:
> https://users.frii.com/littlepearl/Tiger_046.jpg
>
> Engine:
> https://users.frii.com/littlepearl/Tiger_048.jpg
>
> Boot:
> https://users.frii.com/littlepearl/Tiger_052.jpg
>
> Side:
> https://users.frii.com/littlepearl/Tiger_056.jpg
>
> Front:
> https://users.frii.com/littlepearl/Tiger_058.jpg

From allfudge1635 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 20:30:26 2011
From: allfudge1635 at gmail.com (Al Fudge)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:30:26 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!
Message-ID: <CAKJTWECSv8VYfRV4Edg-Z65Rxb=ZF+6hfLBQXTifcuZ6YJ1Ejg@mail.gmail.com>

My access to the list has been restored!  Many thanks to MJB!  While I was
in limbo I managed to have the Tiger dipped in Portland Ore.  Pics are
available at http://picasaweb.google.com/allfudge1635   I am now working on
the jig so I can start repairing the damage.  I'm thinking I lost about 40
lbs of bondo and fiberglas.  I have been informed many times I'm taking on a
lot of work (usually expressed as "you're crazy , dude!" or something more
profane than that), but I've got time and help.  Should be fun.  Comments
are welcome!

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Tue Jul 12 22:08:14 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:08:14 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!
References: <CAKJTWECSv8VYfRV4Edg-Z65Rxb=ZF+6hfLBQXTifcuZ6YJ1Ejg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CB3BF43524834446A0FDBA359E043B98@student2>

>>> I have been informed many times I'm taking on a lot of work (usually 
>>> expressed as "you're crazy , dude!" or something more profane than 
>>> that<<<

Al, part of me wants to say, "you're crazy , dude!" too, but I'd rather 
encourage you along. Please keep us up to date with progress/pictures. 
Interesting that your car did not look that bad (topside) prior to being 
stripped.

Tom

From allfudge1635 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 13:31:10 2011
From: allfudge1635 at gmail.com (Al Fudge)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:31:10 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!
In-Reply-To: <CB3BF43524834446A0FDBA359E043B98@student2>
References: <CAKJTWECSv8VYfRV4Edg-Z65Rxb=ZF+6hfLBQXTifcuZ6YJ1Ejg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CB3BF43524834446A0FDBA359E043B98@student2>
Message-ID: <001e01cc4193$6c3eba70$44bc2f50$@gmail.com>

Thomas,

Will do.

Thanks,

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Thomas Witt
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:08 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!

>>> I have been informed many times I'm taking on a lot of work (usually 
>>> expressed as "you're crazy , dude!" or something more profane than 
>>> that<<<

Al, part of me wants to say, "you're crazy , dude!" too, but I'd rather
encourage you along. Please keep us up to date with progress/pictures. 
Interesting that your car did not look that bad (topside) prior to being
stripped.

Tom
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From j_d_johnson at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 19:50:13 2011
From: j_d_johnson at earthlink.net (J D Johnson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:50:13 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] UK Stuff
Message-ID: <E1QhB4L-0008BL-3l@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have a friend who came across an exceptionably rare, never 
published, color picture of a MK 1A being crash tested at the MIRA 
proving ground in England.  He's offering large 11X14 prints for 65 
GBP (plus shipping and handling) which works out to a little over 
$100.00 US (depending on the prevailing exchange rate).  If you're 
interested, I'm happy to help arrange ordering, etc.

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=735598a95e0c2d86&sc=photos#cid=735598A95E0C2D86&id=735598A95E0C2D86%21160&sc=photos

JD

From allfudge1635 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 22:06:42 2011
From: allfudge1635 at gmail.com (allfudge1635 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:06:42 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!
In-Reply-To: <73AC3990764E4563A41E2085A3475B7F@ronpc1>
References: <CAKJTWECSv8VYfRV4Edg-Z65Rxb=ZF+6hfLBQXTifcuZ6YJ1Ejg@mail.gmail.com><73AC3990764E4563A41E2085A3475B7F@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1310616416.3298.tigers@autox.team.net>

Ron,
It is not the original engine. When I bought the car it had a 302 and a C4 AT. The valve covers appear to be original, although I don't know if they "belong" to this car. I'll send the numbers to you later. I think this is a 70's vintage 302. I've been so focused on the body that I haven't paid much attention to the drivetrain.

Al
B9471635
Sent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry.

-----Original Message-----
From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:22:55 
To: 'Al Fudge'<allfudge1635 at gmail.com>
Reply-To: <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Subject: RE: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!

Al
	Looks like a great project.

I'm conducting an original Tiger engine study with respect to the Ford
Engineering #s and Dade codes.
If you have the original engine I hope you would consider participating.  If
you do not have the original engine and you would like to know what you have
I will gladly go through the #s with you.

If your interested in the Study let me know and I will send you the list of
item.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Al Fudge
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:30 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] I have been reinstated!


My access to the list has been restored!  Many thanks to MJB!  While I was
in limbo I managed to have the Tiger dipped in Portland Ore.  Pics are
available at http://picasaweb.google.com/allfudge1635   I am now working on
the jig so I can start repairing the damage.  I'm thinking I lost about 40
lbs of bondo and fiberglas.  I have been informed many times I'm taking on a
lot of work (usually expressed as "you're crazy , dude!" or something more
profane than that), but I've got time and help.  Should be fun.  Comments
are welcome!_______________________________________________

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From keepracing at mac.com  Fri Jul 15 20:56:43 2011
From: keepracing at mac.com (Keep Morse)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:56:43 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger list down?
Message-ID: <953B72AB-C560-4539-849C-428EBE57650D@mac.com>

I have been having difficulty rec emails from the tiger.
Have I done something wrong?
Help.
Keep Morse

From fordlandia at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 16 05:45:50 2011
From: fordlandia at sbcglobal.net (Bill Waite)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 04:45:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Problem Subscribing to Tiger List
Message-ID: <1310816750.57955.YahooMailClassic@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have been having trouble trying to once again subscribe to the daily digest
for the Tiger List.  I have registered and checked all the correct boxes, have
received the email from the List acknowledging that I signed up... but no
emails (digests) received.

If someone can help or suggest what I may have done wrong, I'd appreciate it.

Regards,

Bill Waite
Grand Rapids, MI

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Jul 16 05:46:53 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:46:53 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger list down?
In-Reply-To: <953B72AB-C560-4539-849C-428EBE57650D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A41F54A59ADA4C7AAF098FF9BF05B91D@ronpc1>

	This one came through OK

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Keep Morse
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:57 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger list down?


I have been having difficulty rec emails from the tiger.
Have I done something wrong?
Help.
Keep Morse
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From Rollright at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 07:27:50 2011
From: Rollright at aol.com (Rollright at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:27:50 EDT
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
Message-ID: <22d4f.1236aded.3b543d56@aol.com>

Hello,
 
I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad  
under it a stout bang with my fist.
Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
 
Any ideas or simple solutions?
 
Jim Armstrong   

From tcprager at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 17 07:49:36 2011
From: tcprager at hotmail.com (Tom Prager)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:49:36 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
In-Reply-To: <22d4f.1236aded.3b543d56@aol.com>
References: <22d4f.1236aded.3b543d56@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP204C11A85101211FD535B4CB4B0@phx.gbl>

Jim - I have the same problem occasionally due to the paint softening on the
speedo needle, especially in Texas heat. After driving for a few minutes, it
frees itself.

Tom

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Rollright at aol.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad
> under it a stout bang with my fist.
> Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
>
> Any ideas or simple solutions?
>
> Jim Armstrong
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From awtiger at cox.net  Mon Jul 18 08:21:00 2011
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:21:00 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP204C11A85101211FD535B4CB4B0@phx.gbl>
References: <22d4f.1236aded.3b543d56@aol.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP204C11A85101211FD535B4CB4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <701937DB410A4735B00485D70F5EA426@awtigerPC>

Same problem here, Jim.  I think Tom has hit the nail on the head; over time 
and heat, the needle tends to stick to the stop on the face of the speedo. 
Mine's so bad that I can't get it unstuck with just a rap on the glass or 
something like that.  One clue to look for is if your odometer is still 
working, then the cable is good and it's your needle that's stuck.

Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Prager" <tcprager at hotmail.com>
To: <Rollright at aol.com>
Cc: <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer


> Jim - I have the same problem occasionally due to the paint softening on 
> the
> speedo needle, especially in Texas heat. After driving for a few minutes, 
> it
> frees itself.
>
> Tom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Rollright at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad
>> under it a stout bang with my fist.
>> Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
>>
>> Any ideas or simple solutions?
>>
>> Jim Armstrong
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sun Jul 17 08:38:33 2011
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary Winblad)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:38:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
In-Reply-To: <701937DB410A4735B00485D70F5EA426@awtigerPC>
Message-ID: <950534664.702186.1310913513072.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I've got the same problem in California!
Next time I repaint the needle I will try removing old layers of paint
and putting some silicon spray on the stop and needle contact point.
Rapping on the glass is my work-around.  If you have the room,
maybe try taking her up to 140 or so, that would probably unstick it ;-)

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: awtiger <awtiger at cox.net>
To: Tom Prager <tcprager at hotmail.com>, Rollright at aol.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:21:00 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer

Same problem here, Jim.  I think Tom has hit the nail on the head; over time 
and heat, the needle tends to stick to the stop on the face of the speedo. 
Mine's so bad that I can't get it unstuck with just a rap on the glass or 
something like that.  One clue to look for is if your odometer is still 
working, then the cable is good and it's your needle that's stuck.

Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Prager" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer


> Jim - I have the same problem occasionally due to the paint softening on 
> the
> speedo needle, especially in Texas heat. After driving for a few minutes, 
> it
> frees itself.
>
> Tom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Rollright at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad
>> under it a stout bang with my fist.
>> Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
>>
>> Any ideas or simple solutions?
>>
>> Jim Armstrong
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From wseay at embarqmail.com  Sun Jul 17 08:58:26 2011
From: wseay at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:58:26 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
In-Reply-To: <22d4f.1236aded.3b543d56@aol.com>
References: <22d4f.1236aded.3b543d56@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc4491$fc1a9910$f44fcb30$@com>

Jim,

This is a classic Tiger spedo problem.  The problem occurs because the paint on
the spedo needle gets stickey and sticks to the needle stop.  There are two easy
solutions.  They both require opening the spedo up.  1) scrape away the paint
where the needle contacts the stop.  The little bit of missing paint isn't too
noticeable.  Or 2) you can place a bit of Teflon sleeving on the stop.  The
paint won't stick to Teflon.

This was a problem when the spedos were new and it's still a problem with
reconditioned spedos.  Apparently modern paints used on the needle are just as
stickey as the older paints.

Good luck

Will Seay_____________
wseay at embarqmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Rollright at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:28 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer

Hello,
 
I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad  
under it a stout bang with my fist.
Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
 
Any ideas or simple solutions?
 
Jim Armstrong   
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From tym2 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 17 08:58:33 2011
From: tym2 at comcast.net (tym2 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:58:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Car Cover
Message-ID: <455160792.760957.1310914713108.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Tigers, 


Does anyone know where I can get a good quality car cover (for inside) for my Mk1A Tiger. 
I have a Coverking cover for my Corvette, which is excellent, but apparently, Coverking doesn't make a cover for the Tiger. 


Any help would be appreciated. 


Tym McDowell 

From JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net  Sun Jul 17 09:42:25 2011
From: JCMC2006 at suddenlink.net (Jerry & Maureen (Mo))
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:42:25 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
In-Reply-To: <950534664.702186.1310913513072.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <701937DB410A4735B00485D70F5EA426@awtigerPC>
	<950534664.702186.1310913513072.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3A4B6C416A6742EEA43C38405B5D0E80@jerry>

Yup, got the same problem also, both the tach and speedo, instead of tapping
on the glass or woodwork putting fingerprints on them, I reach up behind the
dash and give a tap to the bottom of each gauge. You would think the paint
would be pretty dry after about 12 years or so since I painted mine!! 

Jerry Christopherson
9473187

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Gary Winblad
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:39 AM
To: awtiger
Cc: Rollright at aol.com; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer

I've got the same problem in California!
Next time I repaint the needle I will try removing old layers of paint
and putting some silicon spray on the stop and needle contact point.
Rapping on the glass is my work-around.  If you have the room,
maybe try taking her up to 140 or so, that would probably unstick it ;-)

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: awtiger <awtiger at cox.net>
To: Tom Prager <tcprager at hotmail.com>, Rollright at aol.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:21:00 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer

Same problem here, Jim.  I think Tom has hit the nail on the head; over time

and heat, the needle tends to stick to the stop on the face of the speedo. 
Mine's so bad that I can't get it unstuck with just a rap on the glass or 
something like that.  One clue to look for is if your odometer is still 
working, then the cable is good and it's your needle that's stuck.

Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Prager" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer


> Jim - I have the same problem occasionally due to the paint softening on 
> the
> speedo needle, especially in Texas heat. After driving for a few minutes, 
> it
> frees itself.
>
> Tom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Rollright at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad
>> under it a stout bang with my fist.
>> Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
>>
>> Any ideas or simple solutions?
>>
>> Jim Armstrong
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From allanballard at att.net  Sun Jul 17 14:38:10 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:38:10 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
In-Reply-To: <3A4B6C416A6742EEA43C38405B5D0E80@jerry>
References: <701937DB410A4735B00485D70F5EA426@awtigerPC>
	<950534664.702186.1310913513072.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<3A4B6C416A6742EEA43C38405B5D0E80@jerry>
Message-ID: <2FD7928C-03E7-428D-BD85-B56B45AE7810@att.net>

Me too; had the unit rebuilt by Nisonger; went under 100 miles then the speedo
stuck. Came loose while driving then
stuck again. Hitting the glass helped once, then didn't help.

Odometer works and the cable is working.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

On Jul 17, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Jerry & Maureen (Mo) wrote:

> Yup, got the same problem also, both the tach and speedo, instead of
tapping
> on the glass or woodwork putting fingerprints on them, I reach up behind
the
> dash and give a tap to the bottom of each gauge. You would think the paint
> would be pretty dry after about 12 years or so since I painted mine!!
>
> Jerry Christopherson
> 9473187
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Gary Winblad
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:39 AM
> To: awtiger
> Cc: Rollright at aol.com; tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer
>
> I've got the same problem in California!
> Next time I repaint the needle I will try removing old layers of paint
> and putting some silicon spray on the stop and needle contact point.
> Rapping on the glass is my work-around.  If you have the room,
> maybe try taking her up to 140 or so, that would probably unstick it ;-)
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: awtiger <awtiger at cox.net>
> To: Tom Prager <tcprager at hotmail.com>, Rollright at aol.com
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:21:00 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer
>
> Same problem here, Jim.  I think Tom has hit the nail on the head; over
time
>
> and heat, the needle tends to stick to the stop on the face of the speedo.
> Mine's so bad that I can't get it unstuck with just a rap on the glass or
> something like that.  One clue to look for is if your odometer is still
> working, then the cable is good and it's your needle that's stuck.
>
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Prager"
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer
>
>
>> Jim - I have the same problem occasionally due to the paint softening on
>> the
>> speedo needle, especially in Texas heat. After driving for a few minutes,
>> it
>> frees itself.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Rollright at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've been noticing that my speedo doesn't move until I give the dash pad
>>> under it a stout bang with my fist.
>>> Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until 'persuaded'.
>>>
>>> Any ideas or simple solutions?
>>>
>>> Jim Armstrong
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From LAURIN212 at YAHOO.COM  Sun Jul 17 15:27:43 2011
From: LAURIN212 at YAHOO.COM (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger For Sale
Message-ID: <B7CD122D-B2F8-4416-9A90-6647348B3CB5@YAHOO.COM>

Thinking of selling one of my Tigers, its the Gulf Racing Blue light blue
color, original color, no rust, very solid driver, new carpets, new seat pads,
new stainless exhaust, clutch and brake master cylinders, clutch slave
cylinder, new walnut dash, new tires, new LAT 70's from SS, new shocks, new
windshield glass, new driving lights, optima battery, etc.  Has original fan
shroud, AC air cleaner, remote oil filter assembly.  All stock.  All numbers
matching.  Exterior paint is a bit tired, but this is one of the most solid
no-rust Tiger bodies I have seen.  Its been authenticated (TAC'd).  Clean
title in hand.  I just got back my other Tiger after a 3-year bare-metal
restoration, and thinning down the Tiger fleet a bit to introduce some new
species to the garage, so selling this one.  As you might recall, i sold my
dark blue Tiger couple months back, first guy that looked at it, took it.  I'm
asking $40k for this one.  Forward any inquiries to me.  Pic link below.  Ill
prepare a more fulsome ad when i get a chance.  Thks, Peter.
laurin212 at yahoo.com

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/peter212/IMG_0003-1.jpg

From Rollright at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 15:47:07 2011
From: Rollright at aol.com (Rollright at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:47:07 EDT
Subject: [Tigers] speedo thanks
Message-ID: <1afd.236c5761.3b54b25b@aol.com>

Thanks to all for the help on the sticking speedo. Think I will Teflon the  
post this winter.
 
 
 
Jim Armstrong   

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Jul 17 16:09:18 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:09:18 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Problem Subscribing to Tiger List
In-Reply-To: <1310816750.57955.YahooMailClassic@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1310816750.57955.YahooMailClassic@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E235D8E.80908@bradakis.com>

Bill Waite wrote:
> I have been having trouble trying to once again subscribe to the daily digest
> for the Tiger List.  I have registered and checked all the correct boxes, have
> received the email from the List acknowledging that I signed up... but no
> emails (digests) received.
>
>    
You are subscribed.  You are set for digest mode.  A digest went out
today and was sent to you:

Jul 17 12:15:26 autox postfix/smtp[8232]: 9454018791B: to=<fordlandia at sbcglobal.net>
relay=sbcmx3.prodigy.net[207.115.21.22]:25, delay=6, delays=0.01/0.02/2.9/3.1, dsn=2.0.0
status=sent (250 2.0.0 p6HIFBGD009007 Message accepted for delivery)


The problem is not with Team.Net.

  mjb.
Jul 17 12:15:26 autox postfix/smtp[8232]: 9454018791B: to=<fordlandia at sbcglobal.net>, relay=sbcmx3.prodigy.net[207.115.21.22]:25, delay=6, delays=0.01/0.02/2.9/3.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 p6HIFBGD009007 Message accepted for delivery)

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Jul 17 16:28:45 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:28:45 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger list down?
In-Reply-To: <953B72AB-C560-4539-849C-428EBE57650D@mac.com>
References: <953B72AB-C560-4539-849C-428EBE57650D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4E23621D.10200@bradakis.com>

Keep Morse wrote:
> I have been having difficulty rec emails from the tiger.
> Have I done something wrong?
>    

Probably.  Both your mac.com and msn.com addresses
are on the list, and the Team.Net mail logs show the
messages getting sent to you.

mjb.

From CoolVT at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 16:30:28 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:30:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Speedometer
Message-ID: <43126.1e30855c.3b54bc84@aol.com>

Really strange that a company like Nisonger,  considered about the best, 
hasn't come up with a cure.
M
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2011 4:44:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
allanballard at att.net writes:

Me too;  had the unit rebuilt by Nisonger; went under 100 miles then the  
speedo
stuck. Came loose while driving then
stuck again. Hitting the  glass helped once, then didn't help.

Odometer works and the cable is  working.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV Alpine

On Jul 17,  2011, at 11:42 AM, Jerry & Maureen (Mo) wrote:

> Yup, got the  same problem also, both the tach and speedo, instead of
tapping
> on  the glass or woodwork putting fingerprints on them, I reach up  behind
the
> dash and give a tap to the bottom of each gauge. You  would think the 
paint
> would be pretty dry after about 12 years or so  since I painted mine!!
>
> Jerry Christopherson
>  9473187
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  tigers-bounces at autox.team.net 
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
>  On Behalf Of Gary Winblad
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:39 AM
>  To: awtiger
> Cc: Rollright at aol.com; tigers at autox.team.net
>  Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer
>
> I've got the same problem in  California!
> Next time I repaint the needle I will try removing old  layers of paint
> and putting some silicon spray on the stop and needle  contact point.
> Rapping on the glass is my work-around.  If you  have the room,
> maybe try taking her up to 140 or so, that would  probably unstick it ;-)
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original  Message -----
> From: awtiger <awtiger at cox.net>
> To: Tom  Prager <tcprager at hotmail.com>, Rollright at aol.com
> Cc:  tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:21:00 -0000  (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speedometer
>
> Same problem  here, Jim.  I think Tom has hit the nail on the head;  over
time
>
> and heat, the needle tends to stick to the stop  on the face of the 
speedo.
> Mine's so bad that I can't get it unstuck  with just a rap on the glass or
> something like that.  One clue to  look for is if your odometer is still
> working, then the cable is good  and it's your needle that's stuck.
>
> Andy Walker
> Edmond,  OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
>
> ----- Original  Message -----
> From: "Tom Prager"
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent:  Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Speedometer
>
>
>> Jim - I have the same problem  occasionally due to the paint softening on
>> the
>> speedo  needle, especially in Texas heat. After driving for a few 
minutes,
>>  it
>> frees itself.
>>
>>  Tom
>>
>> Sent from my  iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM,  Rollright at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I've been noticing that my speedo  doesn't move until I give the dash 
pad
>>> under it a stout bang  with my fist.
>>> Then it works fine. So, stuck on launch until  'persuaded'.
>>>
>>> Any ideas or simple  solutions?
>>>
>>> Jim Armstrong
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>  tigers at autox.team.net
>>>
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From member at linkedin.com  Sun Jul 17 19:14:55 2011
From: member at linkedin.com (Curt Bowland via LinkedIn)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:14:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <87558582.5345781.1310951695138.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed84.prod>

LinkedIn
------------




    Curt Bowland requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
  
------------------------------------------

Theo,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Curt

Accept invitation from Curt Bowland
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From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 11:56:15 2011
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Starter
Message-ID: <1311011775.44413.YahooMailClassic@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'm finally back on the Tiger group list.  I've very much missed the dialog
and insight of the Tiger aficionados.  
 
Now for the question:
 
I'm installing a new starter on a 1978 (early style) 302 block with a
C5DA-6394-A bellhousing.
I know the parameters, but was hoping to get one or more brand and model
numbers from the list.  Every time I research it myself, I end up wondering if
a particular starter/mini starter will fit.
 
Thanks as always,
Brian
B382000846LRXFE


--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:


From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Subject: RE: Are you back up?
To: "'Brian Glenn'" <ora_archy at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 4:26 PM



We all had withdrawal pains.
 
Some are just experiencing sharper pains and more of them than others.
 
I do hope Mark can correct or at least mend the majority of the glitches.
 
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Glenn [mailto:ora_archy at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:57 PM
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com
Subject: RE: Are you back up?






Ron,
 
Thanks for the clarification.
I'll see what comes of my request and move forward from there.
 
I greatly appreciate the help getting back on line.
I miss the discussions and the assitance.
 
Brian























 

 

 

 
 

From cmccann at lwpb.com  Mon Jul 18 14:21:54 2011
From: cmccann at lwpb.com (Cullen McCann)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:21:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] whoops, missing link
Message-ID: <4419C83983D4FB47AADD6847090647338CAD3E3E64@LWPB-EX1.LWPB.local>

http://www.barnfinds.com/untarped-tiger<http://www.barnfinds.com/untarped-tig
er-1966-sunbeam-tiger?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_cont
ent=766718&utm_campaign=0>

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 16:31:44 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Starter
In-Reply-To: <1311011775.44413.YahooMailClassic@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1311028304.25484.YahooMailClassic@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brian- I have a mini starter on my Tiger- running a 302 but the previous owner installed the engine, so I have no idea about the bellhousing. I also can only tell you the mini starter was purchased before I even owned the car from ebay and a chap from Fla. who sold parts at car shows and other car related events, so I also have no information about brand name etc. on the mini starter. I can say it turnes the engine over with ease. My only problem was when I replaced the clutch I had the headers on but not the starter and this partricular set of headers didnt allow for the starter to fit in or out of the header once installed. So,I had to unbolt the header to even get the mini-starter in. I remember thinking "What if it was a stock size starter"?I would have really had problems. Thankfully all headres are not made the same as I have always used headers on different Tigers and this is/was a first for the starter not being able to RandR with the header
 bolted in place.
Much luck.
TonytheTiger
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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From wseay at embarqmail.com  Tue Jul 19 08:54:46 2011
From: wseay at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:54:46 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Starter
In-Reply-To: <1311028304.25484.YahooMailClassic@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1311011775.44413.YahooMailClassic@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1311028304.25484.YahooMailClassic@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901cc4623$cdfecf90$69fc6eb0$@com>

Just for the record Brian, Tony, the stock starter has the same interference
problem with the headers.  You have to partially install the right-side headers,
and then swing them away from the car to get the starter in.  After the
starter's in you can then tighten up the headers.

Will Seay 382001570
wseay at embarqmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Tony Somebody
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 6:32 PM
To: Brian Glenn
Cc: Beamclub
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Starter

Brian- I have a mini starter on my Tiger- running a 302 but the previous owner
installed the engine, so I have no idea about the bellhousing. I also can only
tell you the mini starter was purchased before I even owned the car from ebay
and a chap from Fla. who sold parts at car shows and other car related events,
so I also have no information about brand name etc. on the mini starter. I can
say it turnes the engine over with ease. My only problem was when I replaced the
clutch I had the headers on but not the starter and this partricular set of
headers didnt allow for the starter to fit in or out of the header once
installed. So,I had to unbolt the header to even get the mini-starter in. I
remember thinking "What if it was a stock size starter"?I would have really had
problems. Thankfully all headres are not made the same as I have always used
headers on different Tigers and this is/was a first for the starter not being
able to RandR with the header
 bolted in place.
Much luck.
TonytheTiger
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
>  
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net

From bobdixon at frii.com  Wed Jul 20 16:54:34 2011
From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:54:34 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger for sale
Message-ID: <cc119c97610bc1366b4400d4dbaa5ae3@localhost>

No affiliation,  I just ran across this.

http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/948653.html

Bob
B382001436

From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 02:10:37 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:10:37 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger for sale
In-Reply-To: <cc119c97610bc1366b4400d4dbaa5ae3@localhost>
References: <cc119c97610bc1366b4400d4dbaa5ae3@localhost>
Message-ID: <CAET8snUNWq-iG6_H30Mx34CJ0jat0YLRw9bt9pkr_qKmnGMdmw@mail.gmail.com>

This car was up a few years back, I remember it from the distinctive
engine bay vents in the front guards (and IMHO very nicely executed)
it seems like a nice car, but a pitty the underside is not as
presentable as the top side

That said at least the seller has been good enough to take decent
pictures of it.. would be nice to see the VIN tags too.

-- 
Regards

Michael King

From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 05:17:45 2011
From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (Jeff Howarth)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:17:45 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snUNWq-iG6_H30Mx34CJ0jat0YLRw9bt9pkr_qKmnGMdmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc119c97610bc1366b4400d4dbaa5ae3@localhost>
	<CAET8snUNWq-iG6_H30Mx34CJ0jat0YLRw9bt9pkr_qKmnGMdmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p4xrmNDZrAKOFw1f@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>

Hi Michael,


the cat was on the CAT site and for sale by Jim Snell in Tucson Arizona 
until earlier this year.

I looked at buying I but was put off by it having a salvage title.

I don't think this is mentioned in the new advert.............

Might be worth checking if anyone is considering buying it.


regards

Jeff






In message 
<CAET8snUNWq-iG6_H30Mx34CJ0jat0YLRw9bt9pkr_qKmnGMdmw at mail.gmail.com>, 
michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> writes
>This car was up a few years back, I remember it from the distinctive
>engine bay vents in the front guards (and IMHO very nicely executed)
>it seems like a nice car, but a pitty the underside is not as
>presentable as the top side
>
>That said at least the seller has been good enough to take decent
>pictures of it.. would be nice to see the VIN tags too.
>

-- 
Jeff Howarth

From mai65tai at sonic.net  Thu Jul 21 12:41:33 2011
From: mai65tai at sonic.net (John Stithem)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:41:33 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1311271205.3203.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17.1311271205.3203.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <808EB6E6-308A-48BE-8DB4-A89022AD16D4@sonic.net>

Do you think by moving it out of state they could get the salvage title
cleared?

John


On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:00 AM, tigers-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:17:45 +0100
> From: Jeff Howarth <jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
> To: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> Cc: "tigers at autox.tea" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger for sale
> Message-ID: <p4xrmNDZrAKOFw1f at v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed
>
> Hi Michael,
>
>
> the cat was on the CAT site and for sale by Jim Snell in Tucson Arizona
> until earlier this year.
>
> I looked at buying I but was put off by it having a salvage title.
>
> I don't think this is mentioned in the new advert.............
>
> Might be worth checking if anyone is considering buying it.
>
>
> regards
>
> Jeff

From CoolVT at aol.com  Thu Jul 21 12:53:28 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:53:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
Message-ID: <19a3c.71710cf5.3b59cfa8@aol.com>

Bring it to Vermont and there is no title required  after car is 10 yrs. 
old. Throw the salvage title away and you no longer  have a title. Have a good 
bill of sale and it can be registered.  Not sure  what happens later when 
you move the car from Vermont to another state:-)  
 
Mark L
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2011 2:48:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mai65tai at sonic.net writes:

Do you  think by moving it out of state they could get the salvage  title
cleared?

John


On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:00 AM,  tigers-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 3
> Date: Thu,  21 Jul 2011 12:17:45 +0100
> From: Jeff Howarth  <jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
> To: michael king  <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> Cc: "tigers at autox.tea"  <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger for  sale
> Message-ID: <p4xrmNDZrAKOFw1f at v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
>  Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed
>
> Hi  Michael,
>
>
> the cat was on the CAT site and for sale by  Jim Snell in Tucson Arizona
> until earlier this year.
>
> I  looked at buying I but was put off by it having a salvage  title.
>
> I don't think this is mentioned in the new  advert.............
>
> Might be worth checking if anyone is  considering buying it.
>
>
> regards
>
>  Jeff
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 20:05:49 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:05:49 +1000
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
In-Reply-To: <19a3c.71710cf5.3b59cfa8@aol.com>
References: <19a3c.71710cf5.3b59cfa8@aol.com>
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Might be ok in some sites in USA, would make it VERY hard to export a
car without a title. I know you would struggle to bring it down under
as anything other than a "parts car"... and seems so many Tigers have
made their way down under in the last couple of years.

All this said,, does anyone know why the car became a "salvage title"?
Was the car written off by an insurance company some time back? How
seriously was it damaged?

I guess when the cars were cheaper the likelyhood of repair costs vs
value for an insurance co would have made them likely to write off a
lightly damaged car that now we would consider a straight forward
resto.

-- 
Regards

Michael King

From CoolVT at aol.com  Thu Jul 21 20:17:29 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:17:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
Message-ID: <29358.108b1a8.3b5a37b8@aol.com>

Some of the states that I am familiar with list it as  salvage if it has 
damage beyond the value of the car.  Some states list as  salvage any car that 
has been used by law enforcement or as a taxi. 
 
Please note that some state offer a "bonded  title".  If the title is 
unobtainable....for example lost or former owner  refuses to turn it over, the 
buyer can purchase a bond and the state will issue  a bonded title.  The bond 
is to insure that if someone makes a claim on the  car, the insurance 
company will pay off.  Most major insurance companies  offer this....purchased one 
once from State Farm.  The cost was about 5% of  the value of the car.
M
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2011 10:05:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
michael.s.king at gmail.com writes:

Might be  ok in some sites in USA, would make it VERY hard to export a
car without a  title. I know you would struggle to bring it down under
as anything other  than a "parts car"... and seems so many Tigers have
made their way down  under in the last couple of years.

All this said,, does anyone know why  the car became a "salvage title"?
Was the car written off by an insurance  company some time back? How
seriously was it damaged?

I guess when  the cars were cheaper the likelyhood of repair costs vs
value for an  insurance co would have made them likely to write off a
lightly damaged car  that now we would consider a straight forward
resto.

--  
Regards

Michael  King

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Thu Jul 21 21:24:56 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:24:56 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
References: <mailman.17.1311271205.3203.tigers@autox.team.net>
	<808EB6E6-308A-48BE-8DB4-A89022AD16D4@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <D7C8BBFDAEC04DADB3250A2899661946@student2>

My daily driver (2000 Mazda Protege) was a "salvaged" car from Ohio. It was 
purchased as salvaged by someone in Kentucky and then "rebuilt." That term 
appeared on the Ohio title.  However, when the guy who bought it as a 
rebuilt car moved to California there was no rebuilt or salvaged term 
applied to the title.

Sometimes it's hard to find an honest person, but when the guy eventually 
listed it for sale in California he actually used the "rebuilt" term to 
describe the car even though it was not present on the title. So, apparently 
there is some way of having the title changed though in this case it was by 
happenstance rather than deliberate.

Tom


> Do you think by moving it out of state they could get the salvage title
> cleared?

> John

From jimmc13 at hughes.net  Sat Jul 23 07:18:38 2011
From: jimmc13 at hughes.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:18:38 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snV3ugMP_r5UcthgSJi0hZpCRrJFj93xf04uUdZrm9TJYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19a3c.71710cf5.3b59cfa8@aol.com>
	<CAET8snV3ugMP_r5UcthgSJi0hZpCRrJFj93xf04uUdZrm9TJYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0668194CE2A4F04A03FE76700B8EFF0@RedBudAdminPC>

Listers;
In our state a salvage title has a specific meaning alluded to in the
write-up.  For the State of Missouri a vehicle is titled as salvage after an
insurance company pays a settlement and decides the car is not worth
repairing.  This does not mean the car cannot be repaired, it means that it
is beyond the costs to repair the company is willing to pay.  Following a
salvage title applied to a particular VIN, it can be removed, at least here,
if the car is repaired and the car is re-titled with a note as "previously
salvaged" and on later titling dropped from being listed on the currently
issued title.  It is still in the history that state retains.  I have
experience in this, not with any Sunbeam product.  Here the value damage is
estimated by approx 25 percent of book value depending on the job completed
to repair the car.  Sorry this is so lengthy but check you state rules
especially with an auto recycler to see about removal of 'salvage' for the
title to see if it is possible.
How do I know this, I am currently working with my restorer to complete my
Mark 1a, no salvage title, and he has extensive experience repairing and
re-selling cars and lets perspective buyers know the truth.  This has been
my experience here over the years.
Jim
B382000175
Mark 1a
Restoration status, engine is up and running ready for body to be done!

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:06 PM
To: CoolVT at aol.com
Cc: mai65tai at sonic.net; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65

Might be ok in some sites in USA, would make it VERY hard to export a
car without a title. I know you would struggle to bring it down under
as anything other than a "parts car"... and seems so many Tigers have
made their way down under in the last couple of years.

All this said,, does anyone know why the car became a "salvage title"?
Was the car written off by an insurance company some time back? How
seriously was it damaged?

I guess when the cars were cheaper the likelyhood of repair costs vs
value for an insurance co would have made them likely to write off a
lightly damaged car that now we would consider a straight forward
resto.

-- 
Regards

Michael King
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Sat Jul 23 07:37:01 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:37:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65
Message-ID: <57fed.3db8b676.3b5c287d@aol.com>

Some states allow a salvaged car to be registered and  some don't. 
Thus you will find a bunch of cars that have had flood damage or  hail 
damage sent to states that allow sale of salvaged vehicles.  As you  say Jim, 
each state has a different set of rules.
M
 
 
In a message dated 7/23/2011 9:19:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jimmc13 at hughes.net writes:

Listers;
In our state a salvage title has a specific meaning  alluded to in the
write-up.  For the State of Missouri a vehicle is  titled as salvage after 
an
insurance company pays a settlement and decides  the car is not worth
repairing.  This does not mean the car cannot be  repaired, it means that it
is beyond the costs to repair the company is  willing to pay.  Following a
salvage title applied to a particular  VIN, it can be removed, at least 
here,
if the car is repaired and the car  is re-titled with a note as "previously
salvaged" and on later titling  dropped from being listed on the currently
issued title.  It is still  in the history that state retains.  I have
experience in this, not  with any Sunbeam product.  Here the value damage is
estimated by  approx 25 percent of book value depending on the job completed
to repair  the car.  Sorry this is so lengthy but check you state  rules
especially with an auto recycler to see about removal of 'salvage'  for the
title to see if it is possible.
How do I know this, I am  currently working with my restorer to complete my
Mark 1a, no salvage  title, and he has extensive experience repairing and
re-selling cars and  lets perspective buyers know the truth.  This has been
my experience  here over the years.
Jim
B382000175
Mark 1a
Restoration status,  engine is up and running ready for body to be done!

-----Original  Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net  [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of michael king
Sent:  Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:06 PM
To: CoolVT at aol.com
Cc:  mai65tai at sonic.net; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers  Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65

Might be ok in some sites in USA, would make it  VERY hard to export a
car without a title. I know you would struggle to  bring it down under
as anything other than a "parts car"... and seems so  many Tigers have
made their way down under in the last couple of  years.

All this said,, does anyone know why the car became a "salvage  title"?
Was the car written off by an insurance company some time back?  How
seriously was it damaged?

I guess when the cars were cheaper the  likelyhood of repair costs vs
value for an insurance co would have made  them likely to write off a
lightly damaged car that now we would consider a  straight forward
resto.

-- 
Regards

Michael  King
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From mgman71 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 23 17:34:55 2011
From: mgman71 at comcast.net (George Re)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:34:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Mounting points
Message-ID: <1632811476.169253.1311464095832.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Hello: I am about ready to install my engine ( From under the car) and my question is where are good mounting points to mount the engine harness on the engine?. Thanks advance George Re. 

From slaifman at socal.rr.com  Sat Jul 23 19:45:03 2011
From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:45:03 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Mounting points
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Message-ID: <4E2B791F.2080300@socal.rr.com>

Well, George,

I think it would be a whole lot easier to R&R the engine (and tranny if 
you want) from the top - with the hood removed. Removing the radiator 
and shroud(s) would also help. And you don't need to jack up the front 
of the car onto High, and sturdy jack stands. Although Jack stands may 
add under-car guidance and guidance, in conjunction.

If you do not have sufficiently strong garage rafters for a chain hoist, 
these are rent-able on wheels. and easier to guide in for the necessary 
lateral and fore/aft adjustments.

Keep the fingers away from being squished when things are moving.

Ask me how I know, and I'll tell you about putting a Studebaker 6 in an 
MG-TD - back when.

:-(

Steve



/Steve Laifman/

/Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* <http://www.tigersunited.com>



On 7/23/11 4:34 PM, George Re wrote:
> Hello: I am about ready to install my engine ( From under the car) and my question is where are good mounting points to mount the engine harness on the engine?. Thanks advance
>
> George Re.

From allanballard at att.net  Sat Jul 23 20:13:33 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:13:33 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Originality
In-Reply-To: <4E2B791F.2080300@socal.rr.com>
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	<4E2B791F.2080300@socal.rr.com>
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What is the correct finish for an early Mk1a license plate light-bulb holder?

Mine is in good shape although corroded to the color of an old cent.

I applied "under hood black" but suspect that something like the color of
aluminum or silver might be factory correct.

Rgds,

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger

From 2mbb at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 24 19:30:49 2011
From: 2mbb at sbcglobal.net (Mark Burnett)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Mounting points
Message-ID: <1311557449.6702.YahooMailRC@web82406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've have R&R'ed my engine a few times, by myself.  I have always taken it out 
from underneath.  The front end does need to be lifted, but not too high as I 
roll the engine/trans in and out through the wheel well.  I built a rolling 
cradle for the engine that rests on the oil pan mounting flange, and I have a 
cheap harbor freight transmission dolly/scissors jack that I put under the 
transmission.  to lift the engine, I purchased a lifting plate that mounts to 
the carburetor flange on the intake manifold.  With the scissors jack, I can 
lift the transmission independently and change the "tilt" of the assembly.  I 
did cut the strap ears off the transmission dolly, but I don't remember if that 
was for the tiger project or something else.

lift plate is similar to this:  http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/80044/10002/-1
harbor freight dolly: 
 http://www.harborfreight.com/450-lb-capacity-transmission-jack-39178.html

From mgman71 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 26 21:23:58 2011
From: mgman71 at comcast.net (George Re)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 03:23:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Torque Setting
Message-ID: <1048893321.52183.1311737038578.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Hi guys does anyone know the torque setting for the clutch plate to flywheel setting? I can not fine it in the shop manual. Thanks advance George Re 

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jul 26 21:59:56 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:59:56 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Torque Setting
In-Reply-To: <1048893321.52183.1311737038578.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5ED54CFF99F84DE689D9C9CDD31C2ED5@ronpc1>

George
	Pressure plate torque setting is 12 - 20 ft lbs

 the 5.0L engine lists 17 - 24 ft lbs for the diaphragm style pressure
plate.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of George Re
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:24 PM
To: Tigers
Subject: [Tigers] Torque Setting


Hi guys does anyone know the torque setting for the clutch plate to flywheel
setting? I can not fine it in the shop manual. Thanks advance George Re
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From v8tracker at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 22:05:43 2011
From: v8tracker at gmail.com (A. C. Tynes)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Torque Setting
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Message-ID: <4A70A92121A64E68A38555FEDB30174A@DellD4700>

George,

MaineMustang.com says 35 ft/lbs for all 260-460 V-8's. Manuals for 5.0 says
12-24 ft/lbs. I used 30 ft/lbs with ARP bolts and Loctite for the 302 I built
last year.

HTH,
A. C. Tynes
New Orleans

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Behalf Of George Re
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:24 PM
To: Tigers
Subject: [Tigers] Torque Setting

Hi guys does anyone know the torque setting for the clutch plate to flywheel
setting? I can not fine it in the shop manual. Thanks advance George Re 
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Wed Jul 27 14:27:02 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:27:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake line flush-non Tiger
Message-ID: <1b405.359e8e5f.3b61ce96@aol.com>

I was in a Mienike  Muffler shop the other day  for an annual  state safety 
inspection with one of my cars. The salesman  was trying to convince me 
that I should go for their $99 "brake flush"  special.  Told him it sounded 
kind of steep for a 1/2 hrs. labor.  He  said most of the cost was for 
materials.  I said for a quart of brake  fluid?  He said no, they used a brake 
flushing kit which consisted of a  special brake system flushing fluid, plus a 
hose that came in the kit and then  the brake fluid.  I passed on the great 
special.
 
 
I got thinking later that to really flush the system  would require some 
kind of solvent.  Then, how do you get the solvent out  of the system....flush 
brake fluid through it 5 or 6 times?  I realize  that I learn something new 
every day, so.....has anyone ever heard of anything  to clean the complete 
brake system  other than brake fluid?  Anyone  ever heard of a kit?  I 
surely haven't.
Mark

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 14:55:41 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:55:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake line flush-non Tiger
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Mark- It seems (IMO) that various muffler and brake shops often have
"specials" that seem to benifit them more so than anyone spending their cash.
I am no expert on or at anything but I have flushed the wrong brake fluid from
Beams by using the right brake fluid and unless the fluid was extremely old or
contaminated in some way, WHY would you flush the syestem? Sounds like it may
be a good thing for a few cars and a great thing for the business end of the
flush.. Again, IMO.
TtT

From: "CoolVT at aol.com" <CoolVT at aol.com>
To:
tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: [Tigers]
Brake line flush-non Tiger

I was in a Mienike  Muffler shop the other day 
for an annual  state safety 
inspection with one of my cars. The salesman  was
trying to convince me 
that I should go for their $99 "brake flush"  special. 
Told him it sounded 
kind of steep for a 1/2 hrs. labor.  He  said most of the
cost was for 
materials.  I said for a quart of brake  fluid?  He said no,
they used a brake 
flushing kit which consisted of a  special brake system
flushing fluid, plus a 
hose that came in the kit and then  the brake fluid. 
I passed on the great 
special.


I got thinking later that to really flush
the system  would require some 
kind of solvent.  Then, how do you get the
solvent out  of the system....flush 
brake fluid through it 5 or 6 times?  I
realize  that I learn something new 
every day, so.....has anyone ever heard
of anything  to clean the complete 
brake system  other than brake fluid? 
Anyone  ever heard of a kit?  I 
surely haven't.
Mark
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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Wed Jul 27 16:01:20 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:01:20 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Brake line flush-non Tiger
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Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED9B61F1@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

If you were to flush the system with a brake cleaning solvent, then you need
to expose it to air to allow that fluid to evaporate... however, if you use
compressed air to blow the lines out then you need to consider that the output
of the air compressor will have compressor oil in it, as well as moisture from
the air; so you may be putting in more contaminants than you're getting out,
unless you have both a filter and a dryer on your compressor output.

On balance it would seem to be better to flush with clean brake fluid.
Theo

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From CoolVT at aol.com  Wed Jul 27 16:43:43 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:43:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Brake line flush-non Tiger
Message-ID: <20cd0.276aa09c.3b61ee9f@aol.com>

Theo,
I think this was a gimick to make a few bucks.....a  $99 brake fluid 
change.  They came up with the "kit" thing to justify the  price of a 1/2 hr  $99 
job.  I'm pretty religious about keeping the  fluids changed in my vehicles, 
but do it myself and don't use their "flushing  agent" :-))
I think the whole fluid kit was BS, but figured maybe  there is something 
new on the market that I've been  missing.
M
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2011 6:01:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Theo.Smit at dynastream.com writes:

If you  were to flush the system with a brake cleaning solvent, then you 
need to  expose it to air to allow that fluid to evaporate... however, if you 
use  compressed air to blow the lines out then you need to consider that the 
output  of the air compressor will have compressor oil in it, as well as 
moisture from  the air; so you may be putting in more contaminants than you're 
getting out,  unless you have both a filter and a dryer on your compressor 
output.

On  balance it would seem to be better to flush with clean brake  fluid.
Theo

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From v8cat at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 28 16:09:47 2011
From: v8cat at yahoo.com (v8cat)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Oil change
Message-ID: <1311890987.29092.YahooMailClassic@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Looks like a Sunbeam to me. 

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From wseay at embarqmail.com  Thu Jul 28 10:06:39 2011
From: wseay at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:06:39 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake line flush-non Tiger
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Mark,
I know that some manufacturers require replacing all fluids periodically as part
of their recommended maintenance so there is some legitimacy to this.  The
practice of "recommending" these procedures at intervals other than those
recommended by the manufacturer is just a revenue making scheme and it's little
short of a scam.  I recently took my '98 Z3 in for a VA state inspection.  While
I was waiting for the car there service technician approached me with a very
sober look on his face and showed me a list of "recommended" maintenance to the
tune of about $600.  He started by telling me that my oil "looked dirty" and
should be changed.  As the maintenance indicator indicated that I had at least
2000 miles before a scheduled oil change and because I had changed the filter at
mid interval, I told him to take a hike.  Likewise I told him I would follow the
manufacturer's (BMW's) recommendations on replacement of air filter and cleaning
throttle body, replacement of brake fluid (sound familiar), and replacing
serpentine belt - have you ever met a mechanic that didn't think you needed new
belts?.  I also told him to stuff his recommendation to lube all my hinges at
$80/hr.  I thought that that had settled the issue until he told me that the
serpentine belt replacement was required to pass state inspection.  I
begrudgingly went for the belt replacement ($164) but vowed to sick the State
Police on them if I found that the replacement was out of line.  After calling
the State Police and being transferred to voice mail twice I decided to check on
the internet.  I found that the inspection procedure requires inspection for
cracked, frayed or missing power steering belt.  Almost a license to steal when
determining the belt condition is left up to the mechanic's judgment. For the
record, BMW considers the belt to be a "lifetime" part, i.e. replace it when it
breaks.  I think I will find another inspection station when I take the car in
next year.

-Will

Will Seay_____________
wseay at embarqmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of CoolVT at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:27 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Brake line flush-non Tiger

I was in a Mienike  Muffler shop the other day  for an annual  state safety 
inspection with one of my cars. The salesman  was trying to convince me 
that I should go for their $99 "brake flush"  special.  Told him it sounded 
kind of steep for a 1/2 hrs. labor.  He  said most of the cost was for 
materials.  I said for a quart of brake  fluid?  He said no, they used a brake 
flushing kit which consisted of a  special brake system flushing fluid, plus a 
hose that came in the kit and then  the brake fluid.  I passed on the great 
special.
 
 
I got thinking later that to really flush the system  would require some 
kind of solvent.  Then, how do you get the solvent out  of the system....flush 
brake fluid through it 5 or 6 times?  I realize  that I learn something new 
every day, so.....has anyone ever heard of anything  to clean the complete 
brake system  other than brake fluid?  Anyone  ever heard of a kit?  I 
surely haven't.
Mark
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From milward at roadrunner.com  Fri Jul 29 13:19:22 2011
From: milward at roadrunner.com (Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:19:22 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger
Message-ID: <7FFF9CEED69442CF9241160614D66F51@BillPC>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW-bc8FFZ1A&feature=share

This is a piece on the Shelby Cobra Coupe at a Le Mans historic event, but it
looks to me like it passes the #8 Le Mans Tiger down the Mulsanne straight.

BillRo

From milward at roadrunner.com  Sat Jul 30 13:19:47 2011
From: milward at roadrunner.com (Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:19:47 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger
Message-ID: <2275622795724E70B29F0168A924FC57@BillPC>

Figured that would bring you out of the woodwork, Darrell!

From jimmc13 at hughes.net  Sat Jul  2 10:02:08 2011
From: jimmc13 at hughes.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:02:08 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Bounced form list
Message-ID: <27CE85B9AFDF457A804E95B5CFB69993@RedBudAdminPC>

Not sure who exactly to contact after being bounced from list. Can anyone
help?
Jim
66 Mk1a

From kevinteresa.beck74 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 16:10:17 2011
From: kevinteresa.beck74 at gmail.com (kevin beck)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 22:10:17 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] mail
Message-ID: <BANLkTinheVHXMMCfCSUXfJhuNFComzrAeA@mail.gmail.com>

 Still not recieving any tiger mail.  Thanks

From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 12:30:45 2011
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:30:45 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Are you back up?
Message-ID: <1309977035.2989.YahooMailClassic@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I've been "off line" for a while now and was wondering what is the status of
the forum?
 
I need my Tiger fix and hope things will be back up and running soon.
 
Thanks
Brian Glenn
714.345.9883

From jeff.holt7 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 19:21:20 2011
From: jeff.holt7 at gmail.com (Jeff Holt)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 01:21:20 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] New engine
Message-ID: <DCA39D73-9764-47D3-B28D-2FC3CE298F0D@gmail.com>

I drove halfway to California yesterday to pick up my new engine from Tom
Hall. (Wal-Mart parking lot in Fernley). Can't wait to get started on it.
Before I go there, can anyone give me some pointers on checking the bearings
and lube on the front wheels. I recall before I lifted the engine (more like
lifted the car), that the right front wheel would sound a little metal on
metal sometimes. Not sure if it was brakes, or bearings. Thoughts on the traps
I should run to check it?

I have the really nice Panasports on it with Dunlop low profile tires now.
Looks great. I wasn't a big fan of the Pie Wedge Mags.

Jeff Holt
Huntsville, UT

From fordlandia at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 12 09:40:38 2011
From: fordlandia at sbcglobal.net (Bill Waite)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:40:38 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Problem subscribing to daily digest...
Message-ID: <1310485227.59156.YahooMailClassic@web82701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am having problems getting back on the mailing list for daily digests of
Tiger List messages.  When I try to subscribe, I get this message:

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.14
We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the
webmaster for this site of this
problem.  Printing of traceback and other
system information has been
explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find
this information in the
Mailman error logs. 
If someone can help, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks,
Bill WaiteGrand Rapids, MI

From rssmithiq at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 14:18:32 2011
From: rssmithiq at gmail.com (Randy Smith)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:18:32 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Car Cover
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References: <455160792.760957.1310914713108.JavaMail.root@sz0149a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4E23438A.5050003@gmail.com>

Sunbeam Specialties sells one.  Had mine for over 10 years and it works 
indoors or out.

-Randy

On 7/17/2011 10:58 AM, tym2 at comcast.net wrote:
> Tigers,
>
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a good quality car cover (for inside) for my Mk1A Tiger.
> I have a Coverking cover for my Corvette, which is excellent, but apparently, Coverking doesn't make a cover for the Tiger.
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Tym McDowell
-- 

Randy Smith
INNER QUEST, Inc.
34752 Charles Town Pike
Purcellville, VA  20132
703-478-1078
540-668-6699
540-668-6253 fax

InnerQuestOnline.com <http://www.innerquestonline.com/>
Randy at InnerQuestOnline.com <mailto:Randy at InnerQuestOnline.com>
Tiger- B382000189

From rssmithiq at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 21:49:18 2011
From: rssmithiq at gmail.com (Randy Smith)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 03:49:18 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Test
Message-ID: <4E23AD2C.7040409@gmail.com>

My earlier post didn't come through.  Just checking.
-- 

Randy Smith
INNER QUEST, Inc.
34752 Charles Town Pike
Purcellville, VA  20132
703-478-1078
540-668-6699
540-668-6253 fax

InnerQuestOnline.com <http://www.innerquestonline.com/>
Randy at InnerQuestOnline.com <mailto:Randy at InnerQuestOnline.com>
Tiger- B382000189

From mark44124 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 19:47:51 2011
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:47:51 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 68
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1311530409.2812.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.19.1311530409.2812.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <3E76104F59374C25B6D9E033B216C706@delld630>

George,
I just installed an engine/transmission this way and am sending you some
pictures. As you can see I used a lifting plate attached to the intake
manifold and a balance bar to keep the engine level. The front of the car
was raised to about a 45 degree angle and using a wheeled dolly for the
engine and a transmission dolly for the tranny I rolled the powertrain under
the car. I lowered the car over the engine, working the transmission tail
into the tunnel. 

The group cannot see these but anyone else let me know if you would like
these or have any questions.

Bugz


Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:34:55
From: George Re <mgman71 at comcast.net>
To: Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Mounting points

Hello: I am about ready to install my engine (From under the car) and my
question is where are good mounting points to mount the engine harness on
the engine?. Thanks advance George Re. 

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