[Tigers] more cubes

Ron Fraser rfraser at bluefrog.com
Thu Jan 27 22:46:43 MST 2011


Jim
	1968 Ford was producing 289 engines at the Windsor plant and 302
engines at the Cleveland plant.  This is also the year the Windsor plant
transitioned from the 289 engine to the 351 engine.

The 289 2v @ 195 HP.
The 302 2v @ 210 HP
The 302 4v @ 230 HP

Ron Fraser

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A little bit off the topic but my dad bought a new '68 Falcon Futura sports
coupe with a 289 2v.... he also had a brochure for that model and it listed
2 v8 options... the 289 2v and the 302 4v ... can't recall the HP ratings.
I wonder if the Mustang or others of that year listed the 2 different cu.
In. v8's ??

Jim
B382000446



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Subject: [Tigers] more cubes

"You could still find 260s in Fairlanes, Falcons, Rancheros and Comets in
'65

and '66 until they ran out of them."


If this was the case, I don't know how Ford/Mercury marketed them. According
to the aforementioned series of books by Ray Miller(separate tomes for
Falcon, Mustang, Thunderbird - all excellent sources), as well as the
factory sales folders for the 1965 and 1966 models, the 260 certainly was
not listed for these model years. Leaving out the Thunderbird which didn't
use small block Ford motors, the Falcon of 1965 offered the option of the
289-2V 200hp motor, the 1965 Ranchero and Sedan Delivery(essentially
Falcons) offered the option of the 2V or 4V
(225hp)
289, Mustang, post August 1964 offered three different 289's: 2V 200hp, 4V
225hp, and the famous 'K' version with 271hp. The bigger 1966
Falcon/Ranchero made due with just the 200hp version of the 289 as an
option. 1966 Mustang carried over all three versions of the 1965 offerings.

I don't have every single piece of Ford marketing literature for the 1960's,
but the only time I remember Ford or Mercury reversing their listed specs
was for the 1968 Cougar which started using the 302 2V for the base engine.
Sometime after the color brochure was distributed, they issued a single
sheet correction, and one of the corrections was that just the base Cougar
would now come standard with a 195hp 289-2V.

The other question is: If Ford really was overstocked with 260's after
issuing 289's for production in their own 1965 cars, did they fill
subsequent Rootes orders with the overstock, or really  order the Industrial
division to make a separate batch just for Rootes?
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