From twotigers at verizon.net  Thu Dec  1 00:20:48 2011
From: twotigers at verizon.net (Kirk Smith)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:20:48 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] LeMans engines
Message-ID: <000001ccaff9$c0243e60$406cbb20$@net>

I have some pictures of these cars from 1997.  The 'Mule' is sporting dual
carbs and does not have an aluminum rad.  It had just finished a restoration
and was  nut & bolt perfect under the hood.  The #9 car was running Weber
carbs in '97.  

 

Kirk  

From twotigers at verizon.net  Thu Dec  1 01:29:19 2011
From: twotigers at verizon.net (Kirk Smith)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 00:29:19 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] LeMans engines
Message-ID: <000001ccb003$52b16650$f81432f0$@net>

I put a couple of pics up on the CAT forum:

 

http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?p=4933#post4933

 

Kirk

From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 04:57:27 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:57:27 +1100
Subject: [Tigers] LeMans engines
In-Reply-To: <000001ccb003$52b16650$f81432f0$@net>
References: <000001ccb003$52b16650$f81432f0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAET8snWnNFqDHF8wqi=YOzfJtM9RR0SwoEVaZ4=BVL2gXRH0RQ@mail.gmail.com>

Kirk,

thanks for the pics, that confirms the setups i was talking about. The
#8 car currently runs a single 4bbl (and a 4.7 IIRC) and competes in
the 60's GT masters class in UK and events in EU like the spa historic
(and does very well when it hangs together).

I think the the #9 might have been the Unett car he ran in the
autosport championship, and he did switch it to a GT40 4.7 spec motor
with 4 webers, this motor i think ended up in the fraser "monster"
tiger at a later point... as darrell mountjoy is on the list and owns
the car i'm sure he can confirm/correct the details.





On 01/12/2011, Kirk Smith <twotigers at verizon.net> wrote:
> I put a couple of pics up on the CAT forum:
>
>
>
> http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?p=4933#post4933
>
>
>
> Kirk
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Regards

Michael King

From sunbeamtiger at prodigy.net  Thu Dec  1 05:49:12 2011
From: sunbeamtiger at prodigy.net (Paul R Sheahan)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 04:49:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tigers] Florida/Southeast TAC Event and Open House This Saturday
Message-ID: <1322743752.50648.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Tiger Owners and Interested Guests,
       This Saturday is the day we are having the latest TAC Event and Open
House at my warehouse at 3073 Vanburen Ave in Naples, Florida,34112.  If you
would like to have your car TAC'd or would just like to come by and meet some
great people, come on by.  There will be some special Tigers on site,
including the South African Tiger, and several other unique cars. 
        The event will start at 10am and will end in the late afternoon.  If
you need directions or information, the warehouse number is 239-732-1704.  My
cell phone number is 704-564-3831.  I look forward to seeing you there.

Paul
Paul R Sheahan

From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Thu Dec  1 09:50:04 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:50:04 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
In-Reply-To: <4ED66296.80202@mayfco.com>
References: <18DA1FCA47994C268B6323C11ECA8A47@BillPC>
	<4ED66296.80202@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <59A9748DA97244768A9B750E0FD7273B@BUCK>

Back in the day, Scooter Patrick was one of the owners of PAM Autos in 
Manhattan Beach, CA where they sold the entire Rootes line. (On the weekends 
Scooter raced Otto Zipper's Porsche's.)  Scooter says the Tigers sold 
themselves and his only limitation was getting Rootes to supply them. He has 
said there was sort of a quota and that he'd  have to take so many Imps and 
Alpines to before he could get one Tiger.

Like Mayf, Scooter thought the Coupe idea was a good one so he "fabbed" a 
prototype from a production Tiger using something like an Astra(?) 
fiberglass hard top (which I believe deleted the trunk lid) and equipped his 
prototype with a lot of the go fast LAT options. Scooter submitted his 
prototype to Rootes hoping that Rootes would put it into production. Again 
Rootes rejected the idea.

To this day Scooter wonders what happened to his coupe/fastback prototype. 
At this summer's TU at the Queen Mary he asked if anyone knew anything about 
its subsequent history. No one there had any information. Anyone on the List 
have any clues we can pass on to him?

bt


At the time Scooter was --------------------------------------------------
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:06 AM
To: "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories" <milward at roadrunner.com>
Cc: "Tigers" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery

> Sad that the car in this configuration never made it to production. I
> would have bought one for sure.  Very nice looking, well balanced and
> heck, if it had had a period of development with lots of buyers and
> racers, the company might have even survived.
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 11/30/2011 8:40 AM, Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories wrote:
>> http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5013/Sunbeam-Tiger-Lister-Le-Mans-Coupe.html
> _______________________________________________
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From twotigers at verizon.net  Thu Dec  1 19:42:58 2011
From: twotigers at verizon.net (Kirk Smith)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:42:58 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] FW: #9 LeMans Tiger
Message-ID: <000b01ccb09c$1ac90470$505b0d50$@net>

From: Kirk Smith [mailto:twotigers at verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:41 PM
To: 'Mountjoy'
Subject: RE: #9 LeMans Tiger



Darrell,



That picture (and many more that I took) were from Tigers United in Eureka
in 1997.  #9 was sporting yellow wheels and a matching yellow spoiler across
the tail.  Seeing those 3 cars together for the first time ina long
timewas just amazing!



Kirk

From: Mountjoy [mailto:dsmtjoy at cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:37 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net; twotigers at verizon.net; michael king
Subject: Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 183



Michael & Kirk,



Yes, the N: 9 car was the one lent be Marcus Chambers to Bernard Unett and
campaigned during the 1965 season.  Mr. Unett was responsible for the notch
in the bulkhead to accommodate the Weber 48IDA carbs as well as other
modifications to make the car more competitive.  At what point in time the
4.2 motor was swapped out for the 4.7 is uncertain.  That is one important
bit of information that I've not been able to determine.



N: 9 was subsequently sold / given (??) to Alan Fraser racing where it was
stripped of all its important bite to create the "Monster Tiger".  In the
early '70s N: 9 was "discovered" and retrieved from a chicken shed behind
Fraser's facility by Ted Walker, Ken Dalziel & a couple others. It was
"resurrected" using Jaguar bits and vintage raced in the UK before being
purchased and coming across the pond.



Kirk, I am unfamiliar with the pic you posted on N: 9.  Can you tell me any
detaile of it ?  It appears to be from the time period when Syd Silverman
owned the car.



Cheers,



Darrell







> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:57:27 +1100
> From: michael king < <mailto:michael.s.king at gmail.com>
michael.s.king at gmail.com>
> To: Kirk Smith < <mailto:twotigers at verizon.net> twotigers at verizon.net>
> Cc:  <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] LeMans engines
> Message-ID:
> <
<mailto:CAET8snWnNFqDHF8wqi=YOzfJtM9RR0SwoEVaZ4=BVL2gXRH0RQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Kirk,
>
> thanks for the pics, that confirms the setups i was talking about. The
> #8 car currently runs a single 4bbl (and a 4.7 IIRC) and competes in
> the 60's GT masters class in UK and events in EU like the spa historic
> (and does very well when it hangs together).
>
> I think the the #9 might have been the Unett car he ran in the
> autosport championship, and he did switch it to a GT40 4.7 spec motor
> with 4 webers, this motor i think ended up in the fraser "monster"
> tiger at a later point... as darrell mountjoy is on the list and owns
> the car i'm sure he can confirm/correct the details.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/12/2011, Kirk Smith < <mailto:twotigers at verizon.net>
twotigers at verizon.net> wrote:
>> I put a couple of pics up on the CAT forum:
>>
>>
>>
>>  <http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?p=4933#post4933>
http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?p=4933#post4933
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk
>> _______________________________________________
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From lpaulick1 at verizon.net  Thu Dec  1 14:49:22 2011
From: lpaulick1 at verizon.net (Larry Paulick)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:49:22 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
In-Reply-To: <59A9748DA97244768A9B750E0FD7273B@BUCK>
References: <18DA1FCA47994C268B6323C11ECA8A47@BillPC>
	<4ED66296.80202@mayfco.com> <59A9748DA97244768A9B750E0FD7273B@BUCK>
Message-ID: <4ED7F662.9040409@verizon.net>

Buck, as you are aware, Wally Swift was the Chrysler rep to Sunbeam and 
had the eastern territory responsibility.

He told me in the last year, Tiger were just sitting at the dealers, and 
he had his son, a HS student, drive the car for a while, and then they 
sold it as a Used Car.

East coast, West coast, was different as far as Tiger were concerned.

Larry

On 12/1/11 11:50 AM, Buck Trippel wrote:
> Back in the day, Scooter Patrick was one of the owners of PAM Autos in 
> Manhattan Beach, CA where they sold the entire Rootes line. (On the 
> weekends Scooter raced Otto Zipper's Porsche's.)  Scooter says the 
> Tigers sold themselves and his only limitation was getting Rootes to 
> supply them. He has said there was sort of a quota and that he'd  have 
> to take so many Imps and Alpines to before he could get one Tiger.
>
> Like Mayf, Scooter thought the Coupe idea was a good one so he 
> "fabbed" a prototype from a production Tiger using something like an 
> Astra(?) fiberglass hard top (which I believe deleted the trunk lid) 
> and equipped his prototype with a lot of the go fast LAT options. 
> Scooter submitted his prototype to Rootes hoping that Rootes would put 
> it into production. Again Rootes rejected the idea.
>
> To this day Scooter wonders what happened to his coupe/fastback 
> prototype. At this summer's TU at the Queen Mary he asked if anyone 
> knew anything about its subsequent history. No one there had any 
> information. Anyone on the List have any clues we can pass on to him?
>
> bt
>
>
> At the time Scooter was 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:06 AM
> To: "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories" <milward at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: "Tigers" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
>
>> Sad that the car in this configuration never made it to production. I
>> would have bought one for sure.  Very nice looking, well balanced and
>> heck, if it had had a period of development with lots of buyers and
>> racers, the company might have even survived.
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2011 8:40 AM, Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories wrote:
>>> http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5013/Sunbeam-Tiger-Lister-Le-Mans-Coupe.html 
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net  Thu Dec  1 20:27:42 2011
From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:27:42 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
In-Reply-To: <4ED7F662.9040409@verizon.net>
References: <18DA1FCA47994C268B6323C11ECA8A47@BillPC>
	<4ED66296.80202@mayfco.com> <59A9748DA97244768A9B750E0FD7273B@BUCK>
	<4ED7F662.9040409@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <DFD4913F02B544ACBA89F0AC8DBCD5A0@BucksLaptop>

Maybe the east/west demand difference had something to do with convertibles 
"in the warm California sun"?

Buck


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Paulick" <lpaulick1 at verizon.net>
To: <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery


> Buck, as you are aware, Wally Swift was the Chrysler rep to Sunbeam and 
> had the eastern territory responsibility.
>
> He told me in the last year, Tiger were just sitting at the dealers, and 
> he had his son, a HS student, drive the car for a while, and then they 
> sold it as a Used Car.
>
> East coast, West coast, was different as far as Tiger were concerned.
>
> Larry
>
> On 12/1/11 11:50 AM, Buck Trippel wrote:
>> Back in the day, Scooter Patrick was one of the owners of PAM Autos in 
>> Manhattan Beach, CA where they sold the entire Rootes line. (On the 
>> weekends Scooter raced Otto Zipper's Porsche's.)  Scooter says the Tigers 
>> sold themselves and his only limitation was getting Rootes to supply 
>> them. He has said there was sort of a quota and that he'd  have to take 
>> so many Imps and Alpines to before he could get one Tiger.
>>
>> Like Mayf, Scooter thought the Coupe idea was a good one so he "fabbed" a 
>> prototype from a production Tiger using something like an Astra(?) 
>> fiberglass hard top (which I believe deleted the trunk lid) and equipped 
>> his prototype with a lot of the go fast LAT options. Scooter submitted 
>> his prototype to Rootes hoping that Rootes would put it into production. 
>> Again Rootes rejected the idea.
>>
>> To this day Scooter wonders what happened to his coupe/fastback 
>> prototype. At this summer's TU at the Queen Mary he asked if anyone knew 
>> anything about its subsequent history. No one there had any information. 
>> Anyone on the List have any clues we can pass on to him?
>>
>> bt
>>
>>
>> At the time Scooter 
>> was --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:06 AM
>> To: "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories" <milward at roadrunner.com>
>> Cc: "Tigers" <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
>>
>>> Sad that the car in this configuration never made it to production. I
>>> would have bought one for sure.  Very nice looking, well balanced and
>>> heck, if it had had a period of development with lots of buyers and
>>> racers, the company might have even survived.
>>>
>>> mayf
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>> drmayf
>>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/30/2011 8:40 AM, Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories wrote:
>>>> http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5013/Sunbeam-Tiger-Lister-Le-Mans-Coupe.html
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>>
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>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From e.coiner at cox.net  Fri Dec  2 07:40:49 2011
From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 6:40:49 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
In-Reply-To: <DFD4913F02B544ACBA89F0AC8DBCD5A0@BucksLaptop>
Message-ID: <20111202094049.82I77.197622.imail@fed1rmwml302>

Perhaps.

I have book on Ford Mustang production.  Year after year (1967 to 1973 anyway) more convertible Mustangs were sold in the Boston sales district than Los Angeles. Who knew?  Maybe they were all Cape Cod summer cars.


---- Buck Trippel <BuckTrippel at Verizon.net> wrote: 
> Maybe the east/west demand difference had something to do with convertibles 
> "in the warm California sun"?
> 
> Buck
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Paulick" <lpaulick1 at verizon.net>
> To: <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
> 
> 
> > Buck, as you are aware, Wally Swift was the Chrysler rep to Sunbeam and 
> > had the eastern territory responsibility.
> >
> > He told me in the last year, Tiger were just sitting at the dealers, and 
> > he had his son, a HS student, drive the car for a while, and then they 
> > sold it as a Used Car.
> >
> > East coast, West coast, was different as far as Tiger were concerned.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On 12/1/11 11:50 AM, Buck Trippel wrote:
> >> Back in the day, Scooter Patrick was one of the owners of PAM Autos in 
> >> Manhattan Beach, CA where they sold the entire Rootes line. (On the 
> >> weekends Scooter raced Otto Zipper's Porsche's.)  Scooter says the Tigers 
> >> sold themselves and his only limitation was getting Rootes to supply 
> >> them. He has said there was sort of a quota and that he'd  have to take 
> >> so many Imps and Alpines to before he could get one Tiger.
> >>
> >> Like Mayf, Scooter thought the Coupe idea was a good one so he "fabbed" a 
> >> prototype from a production Tiger using something like an Astra(?) 
> >> fiberglass hard top (which I believe deleted the trunk lid) and equipped 
> >> his prototype with a lot of the go fast LAT options. Scooter submitted 
> >> his prototype to Rootes hoping that Rootes would put it into production. 
> >> Again Rootes rejected the idea.
> >>
> >> To this day Scooter wonders what happened to his coupe/fastback 
> >> prototype. At this summer's TU at the Queen Mary he asked if anyone knew 
> >> anything about its subsequent history. No one there had any information. 
> >> Anyone on the List have any clues we can pass on to him?
> >>
> >> bt
> >>
> >>
> >> At the time Scooter 
> >> was --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:06 AM
> >> To: "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories" <milward at roadrunner.com>
> >> Cc: "Tigers" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
> >>
> >>> Sad that the car in this configuration never made it to production. I
> >>> would have bought one for sure.  Very nice looking, well balanced and
> >>> heck, if it had had a period of development with lots of buyers and
> >>> racers, the company might have even survived.
> >>>
> >>> mayf
> >>>
> >>> ______________________________
> >>> drmayf
> >>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> >>> 204.913 mph flying mile
> >>> 210.779 mph exit speed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/30/2011 8:40 AM, Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories wrote:
> >>>> http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5013/Sunbeam-Tiger-Lister-Le-Mans-Coupe.html
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> tigers at autox.team.net
> >>>
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> >>
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From lpaulick1 at verizon.net  Fri Dec  2 13:53:23 2011
From: lpaulick1 at verizon.net (Larry Paulick)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:53:23 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
In-Reply-To: <20111202094049.82I77.197622.imail@fed1rmwml302>
References: <20111202094049.82I77.197622.imail@fed1rmwml302>
Message-ID: <4ED93AC3.6030401@verizon.net>

We on the east coast have less sunny days, so we take every advantage of 
the weather and wind in our face, or hair if we have it.

Larry

On 12/2/11 9:40 AM, e.coiner at cox.net wrote:
> Perhaps.
>
> I have book on Ford Mustang production.  Year after year (1967 to 1973 anyway) more convertible Mustangs were sold in the Boston sales district than Los Angeles. Who knew?  Maybe they were all Cape Cod summer cars.
>
>
> ---- Buck Trippel<BuckTrippel at Verizon.net>  wrote:
>> Maybe the east/west demand difference had something to do with convertibles
>> "in the warm California sun"?
>>
>> Buck
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Paulick"<lpaulick1 at verizon.net>
>> To:<tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
>>
>>
>>> Buck, as you are aware, Wally Swift was the Chrysler rep to Sunbeam and
>>> had the eastern territory responsibility.
>>>
>>> He told me in the last year, Tiger were just sitting at the dealers, and
>>> he had his son, a HS student, drive the car for a while, and then they
>>> sold it as a Used Car.
>>>
>>> East coast, West coast, was different as far as Tiger were concerned.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On 12/1/11 11:50 AM, Buck Trippel wrote:
>>>> Back in the day, Scooter Patrick was one of the owners of PAM Autos in
>>>> Manhattan Beach, CA where they sold the entire Rootes line. (On the
>>>> weekends Scooter raced Otto Zipper's Porsche's.)  Scooter says the Tigers
>>>> sold themselves and his only limitation was getting Rootes to supply
>>>> them. He has said there was sort of a quota and that he'd  have to take
>>>> so many Imps and Alpines to before he could get one Tiger.
>>>>
>>>> Like Mayf, Scooter thought the Coupe idea was a good one so he "fabbed" a
>>>> prototype from a production Tiger using something like an Astra(?)
>>>> fiberglass hard top (which I believe deleted the trunk lid) and equipped
>>>> his prototype with a lot of the go fast LAT options. Scooter submitted
>>>> his prototype to Rootes hoping that Rootes would put it into production.
>>>> Again Rootes rejected the idea.
>>>>
>>>> To this day Scooter wonders what happened to his coupe/fastback
>>>> prototype. At this summer's TU at the Queen Mary he asked if anyone knew
>>>> anything about its subsequent history. No one there had any information.
>>>> Anyone on the List have any clues we can pass on to him?
>>>>
>>>> bt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At the time Scooter
>>>> was --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Larry Mayfield"<drmayf at mayfco.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:06 AM
>>>> To: "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories"<milward at roadrunner.com>
>>>> Cc: "Tigers"<tigers at autox.team.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
>>>>
>>>>> Sad that the car in this configuration never made it to production. I
>>>>> would have bought one for sure.  Very nice looking, well balanced and
>>>>> heck, if it had had a period of development with lots of buyers and
>>>>> racers, the company might have even survived.
>>>>>
>>>>> mayf
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>> drmayf
>>>>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>>>>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>>>>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/2011 8:40 AM, Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5013/Sunbeam-Tiger-Lister-Le-Mans-Coupe.html
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> tigers at autox.team.net
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From wseay at embarqmail.com  Fri Dec  2 14:52:34 2011
From: wseay at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:52:34 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
In-Reply-To: <4ED7F662.9040409@verizon.net>
References: <18DA1FCA47994C268B6323C11ECA8A47@BillPC>
	<4ED66296.80202@mayfco.com> <59A9748DA97244768A9B750E0FD7273B@BUCK>
	<4ED7F662.9040409@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000001ccb13c$b32bad80$19830880$@com>

Uncle Wally was right.  At least, if my experience was in any way typical, he
was.  I bought my MK1A new in '67.  It was one of two Tigers that the
(east-coast) dealer had left on his lot from the previous year.  The car was
titled as 1966-1967.  I don't think that the dealer knew that there was a model
change (to the MKII) in '67, and I don't think that his dealership ever saw or
sold a MKII.  I suspect that the reason that Tigers moved so slowly on the east
coast was because the dealers didn't promote the car like it was promoted on the
west coast. 

Will Seay 382001570
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-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Larry Paulick
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:49 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery

Buck, as you are aware, Wally Swift was the Chrysler rep to Sunbeam and 
had the eastern territory responsibility.

He told me in the last year, Tiger were just sitting at the dealers, and 
he had his son, a HS student, drive the car for a while, and then they 
sold it as a Used Car.

East coast, West coast, was different as far as Tiger were concerned.

Larry

On 12/1/11 11:50 AM, Buck Trippel wrote:
> Back in the day, Scooter Patrick was one of the owners of PAM Autos in 
> Manhattan Beach, CA where they sold the entire Rootes line. (On the 
> weekends Scooter raced Otto Zipper's Porsche's.)  Scooter says the 
> Tigers sold themselves and his only limitation was getting Rootes to 
> supply them. He has said there was sort of a quota and that he'd  have 
> to take so many Imps and Alpines to before he could get one Tiger.
>
> Like Mayf, Scooter thought the Coupe idea was a good one so he 
> "fabbed" a prototype from a production Tiger using something like an 
> Astra(?) fiberglass hard top (which I believe deleted the trunk lid) 
> and equipped his prototype with a lot of the go fast LAT options. 
> Scooter submitted his prototype to Rootes hoping that Rootes would put 
> it into production. Again Rootes rejected the idea.
>
> To this day Scooter wonders what happened to his coupe/fastback 
> prototype. At this summer's TU at the Queen Mary he asked if anyone 
> knew anything about its subsequent history. No one there had any 
> information. Anyone on the List have any clues we can pass on to him?
>
> bt
>
>
> At the time Scooter was 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:06 AM
> To: "Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories" <milward at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: "Tigers" <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Le Mans Tiger Gallery
>
>> Sad that the car in this configuration never made it to production. I
>> would have bought one for sure.  Very nice looking, well balanced and
>> heck, if it had had a period of development with lots of buyers and
>> racers, the company might have even survived.
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2011 8:40 AM, Bill Rogers Motorsport Memories wrote:
>>>
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5013/Sunbeam-Tiger-Lister-Le-Mans-Coupe.html 
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From laurin212 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  3 06:38:50 2011
From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:38:50 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] good bye...
Message-ID: <4DE0060E-1507-4A2D-94B7-BE03671A46CB@yahoo.com>

so now im a one tiger man (kinda like marriage).  i sold my med. blue 9473454
to a gentleman in switzerland who's a real enthusiast, it shipped yesterday.
ill miss her, and its funny, i think my wife is more sad to see her go than me
(all the summers blasting around the east end of long island and the light
blue color).

i believe norm has already updated the registry for the change.

now i just have my one "keeper", my restored carn. red mark 1a.

From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sat Dec  3 07:32:34 2011
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary Winblad)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:32:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Hagerty magazine u-tube on Sunbeam Minx
Message-ID: <1622798222.566367.1322922754959.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

If anyone wanted a Sunbeam Minx...

The Minx I saw on Craigslist is BAACK...
Looks better than the one in the Hagerty video.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/2729818511.html

Gary

From prmnes at verizon.net  Sat Dec  3 11:10:28 2011
From: prmnes at verizon.net (Paul Memont)
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:10:28 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] good bye...
In-Reply-To: <4DE0060E-1507-4A2D-94B7-BE03671A46CB@yahoo.com>
References: <4DE0060E-1507-4A2D-94B7-BE03671A46CB@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C8FDA171-DFFB-4B79-BD9A-E1B65BEB79A5@verizon.net>

Hi Peter,

I know exactly how you feel!  You did a very nice job with the improvements!

Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Peter Laurinaitis <laurin212 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> so now im a one tiger man (kinda like marriage).  i sold my med. blue
9473454
> to a gentleman in switzerland who's a real enthusiast, it shipped
yesterday.
> ill miss her, and its funny, i think my wife is more sad to see her go than
me
> (all the summers blasting around the east end of long island and the light
> blue color).
>
> i believe norm has already updated the registry for the change.
>
> now i just have my one "keeper", my restored carn. red mark 1a.
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From crabco at shaw.ca  Sat Dec  3 14:03:12 2011
From: crabco at shaw.ca (Tim Webster)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:03:12 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] A fixer upper?
Message-ID: <000001ccb1fe$f82d0010$e8870030$@ca>

Beauty truly is in the eye of at least 12 beholders...

 

Check out ebay.co.uk    Auction # 290638844707

Tim

From Landcmitch at aol.com  Sat Dec  3 14:53:23 2011
From: Landcmitch at aol.com (Landcmitch at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:53:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] A fixer upper?
Message-ID: <b0f70.75d10eab.3c0bf453@aol.com>

Brits do have a way of understating things,don't they?  Needs a  complete 
restoration.....I guess!
 
Charlie
 
 
In a message dated 12/3/2011 1:30:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
crabco at shaw.ca writes:

Beauty  truly is in the eye of at least 12 beholders...



Check out  ebay.co.uk    Auction #  290638844707

Tim
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From rande at thecia.net  Sun Dec  4 15:54:42 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:54:42 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Nice Mk II on eeb
Message-ID: <4edbfa32.751c.0@thecia.net>

Tiger Mark II number 103 on eBay

item   180767466465

For the next five days only, $155,000. Located in Frazier Park, about a hours'
drive north of the San Fernando Valley (L.A.)

Nice Mark II, but $155 large ?

From wseay at embarqmail.com  Sun Dec  4 16:26:44 2011
From: wseay at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:26:44 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Nice Mk II on eeb
In-Reply-To: <4edbfa32.751c.0@thecia.net>
References: <4edbfa32.751c.0@thecia.net>
Message-ID: <000101ccb2dc$303a2d10$90ae8730$@com>

Nice car, but I think it'll still be around 5 days from now.  And where's the
spare?

Will Seay 382001570
wseay at embarqmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of rande
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:55 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Nice Mk II on eeb

Tiger Mark II number 103 on eBay

item   180767466465

For the next five days only, $155,000. Located in Frazier Park, about a hours'
drive north of the San Fernando Valley (L.A.)

Nice Mark II, but $155 large ?
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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Sun Dec  4 17:32:44 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (atwittsend at verizon.net)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:32:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Tigers] A fixer upper?
Message-ID: <17073927.215139.1323045164411.JavaMail.root@vms170029>

/JKTjXy: Permission denied

From atwittsend at verizon.net  Sun Dec  4 22:03:42 2011
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Thomas Witt)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:03:42 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] A fixer upper? WHAT?
References: <17073927.215139.1323045164411.JavaMail.root@vms170029>
	<4EDC28E5.1080709@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8058A9D2083D4AFBA8527CFE01DA4A94@student2>

___Not sure what went wrong, I simply replied from the "web" version of my 
email rather than the at home download.

But..., what I said was: " Assuming the repairs are made with a donor Alpine 
it would likely restart the debate as to when a Tiger becomes an Alger."
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Laifman
  To: atwittsend at verizon.net
  Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tigers] A fixer upper? WHAT?




  Shooting Blanks?




  Steve



  Steve Laifman

  Editor - TigersUnited.com





  On 12/4/11 4:32 PM, atwittsend at verizon.net wrote:
/JKTjXy: Permission denied 

From twotigers at verizon.net  Sun Dec  4 22:38:48 2011
From: twotigers at verizon.net (Kirk Smith)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:38:48 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] list help
Message-ID: <001701ccb310$2a39ee30$7eadca90$@net>

Jim Lindner, a fellow Tiger owner, is looking for help rejoining the Tigers
list.  I gave him all the email and contact info that worked for me (years
ago), but he is still having problems getting on the list.  If anybody can
help, here's Jim's email address:

 

jliny5 at cox.net

From Rollright at aol.com  Tue Dec  6 14:22:24 2011
From: Rollright at aol.com (Rollright at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:22:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
Message-ID: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>

Hello,
 
Over Thanksgiving weekend, I rebuilt my turn signal indicator  mechanical 
unit, with the nylon piece and rivet from SS.
 
Parts obtained from SS were spot on, but the instructions were woefully  
lacking. Looked in Sunbeam Survivor and Tigers United. Same thing. Has  nobody 
written this P.I.T.A. rebuild anywhere?
 
BTW: its now done and working.
 
Best,  

Jim  Armstrong
Mk 1A  
382002083
LRXFE

From sganz at pacbell.net  Tue Dec  6 17:23:26 2011
From: sganz at pacbell.net (Sandy Ganz)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:23:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
In-Reply-To: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>
References: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1323217406.17766.YahooMailRC@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yep, went throught the same thing and had a spare switch that was not taken
apart to figure it all out. Working good, but was slow going making sure it
all 
was done as needed.

Sandy



----- Original Message ----
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"Rollright at aol.com" <Rollright at aol.com>
To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Sent: Tue,
December 6, 2011 1:22:24 PM
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild

Hello,
Over Thanksgiving weekend, I rebuilt my turn signal indicator  mechanical
unit, with the nylon piece and rivet from SS.

Parts obtained from SS were
spot on, but the instructions were woefully  
lacking. Looked in Sunbeam
Survivor and Tigers United. Same thing. Has  nobody 
written this P.I.T.A.
rebuild anywhere?

BTW: its now done and working.

Best,  

Jim  Armstrong
Mk
1A  
382002083
LRXFE
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Dec  6 17:48:04 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:48:04 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
In-Reply-To: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DC50C89512AF419F8B59BD9360692362@ronpc1>

Jim
	How about you??

Many of these rebuilds are not really listed anywhere but they maybe out
there somewhere.

	I suggest anytime anyone is rebuilding, fixing or upgrading; they
should take digital pictures, make notes and write a tech tip even if it is
just for yourself.  The computer age makes putting all of this together
easier to compile, store and share; so hop to everyone.   Don't assume
someone else is doing the work, be a contributor yourself.   

	Every problem has multiple fixes so be aware that someone may read
your tech tip and say I think its better to do it this way.  Well that
person should write up that fix and share the information that way we can
iterate the tech tip to a better fix for everyone.

I try to do this and some of my tech tips or information have been printed,
some of them are still a work in progress.

Share the knowledge

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Rollright at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:22 PM
To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild


Hello,
 
Over Thanksgiving weekend, I rebuilt my turn signal indicator  mechanical 
unit, with the nylon piece and rivet from SS.
 
Parts obtained from SS were spot on, but the instructions were woefully  
lacking. Looked in Sunbeam Survivor and Tigers United. Same thing. Has
nobody 
written this P.I.T.A. rebuild anywhere?
 
BTW: its now done and working.
 
Best,  

Jim  Armstrong
Mk 1A  
382002083
LRXFE
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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Tue Dec  6 18:16:47 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:16:47 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
In-Reply-To: <DC50C89512AF419F8B59BD9360692362@ronpc1>
References: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>
	<DC50C89512AF419F8B59BD9360692362@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405EF849FF2@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>

When I last had my steering column covers etc. off and rebuilt the horn switch
so it (a) worked and (b) didn't electrocute me when I tried to use it, I found
that the steering column was turned something like 90 degrees, and that moved
the cancelling tab on the column so it was pretty much useless.

While I know that there is an indexing widget on the column so that it should
be obvious how the column should be oriented, it doesn't guarantee that some
hamfisted person won't install it some other way. So have a look there when
you're trying to fix the turn signal stuff.

That's my $.02... Despite having the column oriented the way Rootes intended,
my turn signals don't yet cancel properly ;)

Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
> Sent: December 6, 2011 5:48 PM
> To: Rollright at aol.com; tigers at Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
>
> Jim
>       How about you??
>
> Many of these rebuilds are not really listed anywhere but they maybe
> out
> there somewhere.
>
>


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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  6 19:23:02 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:23:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
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References: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>
	<DC50C89512AF419F8B59BD9360692362@ronpc1>
	<47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405EF849FF2@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com>
Message-ID: <1323224582.74558.YahooMailNeo@web160302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

As Theos was turned 90 degress, making the canceling tab useless, I wondered if that is why I see some cars with the signal lever on the inside as opposed to what I think is the norm, the left side for a left side drive car. Theo if you change your lever to the oppisite side would that make things work?
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From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Tue Dec  6 19:28:14 2011
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:28:14 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
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As I understand it, the Alpines had their turn indicator on the inside, so
that the overdrive engagement stalk could be on the outside. This allowed you
to flip the overdrive on or off with the left hand while shifting the gear
lever with the right.
I don't recall off the top of my head which way the OEM Tiger arrangement
went.

Having the column 90 degrees out made it impossible to properly index the
canceler on either side, since the lever would have had to point straight
down.

Theo

From: Tony Somebody [mailto:achd73 at yahoo.com]
Sent: December 6, 2011 7:23 PM
To: Smit, Theo; rfraser at bluefrog.com; Rollright at aol.com;
tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild

As Theos was turned 90 degress, making the canceling tab useless, I wondered
if that is why I see some cars with the signal lever on the inside as opposed
to what I think is the norm, the left side for a left side drive car. Theo if
you change your lever to the oppisite side would that make things work?
TtT
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  7 08:21:41 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:21:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
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DUH Tony. 90 degress as opposed to 180. Soryy Theo. I hope its the meds they have me on but its prolly oldtimesr. 90 degress, kind of embarassing for a person who worked using degrees in pipe fitting and other construction work over the years. I guess I will just use being big and blonde if all other excuses fail. Everyone have a great Xmas and remember what it is suppose to be for. regards to all.
Tony


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>Subject: Re: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
>
>As Theos was turned 90 degress, making the canceling tab useless, I wondered if that is why I see some cars with the signal lever on the inside as opposed to what I think is the norm, the left side for a left side drive car. Theo if you change your lever to the oppisite side would that make things work?
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From todbrown at roadrunner.com  Wed Dec  7 13:40:06 2011
From: todbrown at roadrunner.com (Tod Brown)
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:40:06 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Turn Signal Lever
Message-ID: <4EDFCF26.3010307@roadrunner.com>

My recollection is that the turn signal lever on my Tiger when I bought 
it new in 1966 was on the inside (i.e. the right side).  At some point I 
switched it to the left side to match the standard US location.  At the 
same time, I fitted a new lever with the extra contact that allows me to 
operate the horns by pulling the lever toward myself, having fitted a 
new steering wheel and done away with the horn ring.  A quick check of a 
photo in the Taylor book of an early US spec (LHD) MkI on the assembly 
line shows the lever on the right (inside) as well.

At the present time, the self cancelling feature of the lever only works 
when I make right hand turns.  I haven't dug in to find the reason so 
maybe now I will put it on the to-do list.

Cheers,

Tod
B382002384LRXFE

From CoolVT at aol.com  Fri Dec  9 09:06:20 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:06:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] FL auction sales
Message-ID: <3c69c.151911dc.3c138bfc@aol.com>

For anyone who's going to be in the Kissimmee, FL area next month, the  
Mecum auction..Jan 26-29 is scheduled  to have 3 Tigers.
Mark

From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 09:17:50 2011
From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:17:50 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FL auction sales
In-Reply-To: <3c69c.151911dc.3c138bfc@aol.com>
References: <3c69c.151911dc.3c138bfc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CADz+Ttct_oQY4zuHSUqiZhJ8yXrgCdxFaRf8QT5G+CskG0UXrA@mail.gmail.com>

The last time Mecum auctioned a Tiger it went for an obscene amount of
money - over $155K, IIRC.

Keep on Tigering!

 Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp



On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:06 AM, <CoolVT at aol.com> wrote:

> For anyone who's going to be in the Kissimmee, FL area next month, the
> Mecum auction..Jan 26-29 is scheduled  to have 3 Tigers.
> Mark
> _______________________________________________

From sjhcobra1 at cs.com  Fri Dec  9 09:38:00 2011
From: sjhcobra1 at cs.com (Steve Halbrook)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:38:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] FL auction sales
In-Reply-To: <CADz+Ttct_oQY4zuHSUqiZhJ8yXrgCdxFaRf8QT5G+CskG0UXrA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8CE84A80A5A6044-794-3B8CD@webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com>

Anyone coming to MECUM please give us a call if your schedule permits.? Carole
and I, Nick and Carolyn Kintner, Matt and Cheryl Bouchel live within roughly
an hour's drive of the auction site and we'd love to share Tiger talk and show
you our cars.
?
Steve Halbrook
813.681.5248
?
?

From BEAU2EVE at aol.com  Fri Dec  9 16:01:12 2011
From: BEAU2EVE at aol.com (BEAU2EVE at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:01:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 189
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WHERE DID YOU GET THE SET UP TO OPERATE THE HORN? Beau
 
 
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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:40:06 -0500
From: Tod Brown  <todbrown at roadrunner.com>
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Subject:  [Tigers] Turn Signal Lever
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My recollection is that the turn  signal lever on my Tiger when I bought 
it new in 1966 was on the inside  (i.e. the right side).  At some point I 
switched it to the left side  to match the standard US location.  At the 
same time, I fitted a new  lever with the extra contact that allows me to 
operate the horns by  pulling the lever toward myself, having fitted a 
new steering wheel and  done away with the horn ring.  A quick check of a 
photo in the Taylor  book of an early US spec (LHD) MkI on the assembly 
line shows the lever on  the right (inside) as well.

At the present time, the self cancelling  feature of the lever only works 
when I make right hand turns.  I  haven't dug in to find the reason so 
maybe now I will put it on the to-do  list.

Cheers,

Tod
B382002384LRXFE


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From lpaulick1 at verizon.net  Fri Dec  9 13:42:46 2011
From: lpaulick1 at verizon.net (Larry Paulick)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:42:46 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] What's My Car Worth
Message-ID: <4EE272C6.7030105@verizon.net>

There was a short segment on a Tiger MK1 on What's My Car Worth, owned 
by Mr. Shelby.  Said he spent $65K to restore the car, and from just the 
short segment, the car look really nice.

The commentators said this car was a good investment.  Glowing commentary.

Larry

From jliny5 at cox.net  Fri Dec  9 11:43:53 2011
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:43:53 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Back on List
Message-ID: <18094314AD56495ABF6E9999706A02CE@JPC>

Hi All,

After losing connectivity with the List back last May, I have finally
restablished contact and I am receiving emails. Not sure what happened or why
I was unable to restablish connectivity for so long, but the administrators
finally figured it out and got me signed up again...it is good to be back...I
missed it.

Thanks to those who helped me out.

Jim Lindner

From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 15:08:14 2011
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:08:14 +1100
Subject: [Tigers] FL auction sales
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References: <3c69c.151911dc.3c138bfc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snWkyo8TnsjqdJ=yszgj_CRxZPOXe-a+5cs5LhM_t_b8Eg@mail.gmail.com>

OK.. the contenders;

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0112-120456  a
well known ebay listing.. owner must be having a role at the austion
scene.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0112-121235 this
one was on ebay a few years back.. and apparently was built from a
real tiger.. sigh

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0112-120951 this
one looks interesting


On 10/12/2011, CoolVT at aol.com <CoolVT at aol.com> wrote:
> For anyone who's going to be in the Kissimmee, FL area next month, the
> Mecum auction..Jan 26-29 is scheduled  to have 3 Tigers.
> Mark
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From jliny5 at cox.net  Thu Dec  1 18:03:10 2011
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:03:10 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Test Message
Message-ID: <EFFF8A6F070F4FCA8DD05BF2231F5C72@JPC>

Hello

I have been unable to access the List since last spring...trying again.

Would appreciate if somebody would respond to this email to confirm
connectivity.

Thanks,

Jim

From jliny5 at cox.net  Sat Dec  3 09:47:45 2011
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 11:47:45 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Test
Message-ID: <EC572489BD92472E87817C74D33BC42A@JPC>

Hello

I am having trouble accessing the list. Could somebody please confirm receipt
of this email.

Thx, Jim

From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Dec 10 13:18:27 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:18:27 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Stalling at idle
In-Reply-To: <071D54DAEF3249B682A3B2C1493B6734@JPC>
References: <7412.289d044.3b00887b@aol.com>
	<071D54DAEF3249B682A3B2C1493B6734@JPC>
Message-ID: <4EE3BE93.9000308@bradakis.com>

Wow.  Messages from many months ago just showing up.

Not sure what is going on here, I'm looking into it.

mjb.

From CoolVT at aol.com  Sat Dec 10 13:21:49 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:21:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Thermostat
Message-ID: <7679a.11f2acdc.3c15195d@aol.com>

Jim,
The first thing that is recommended is to be sure that your  radiator is 
clear.  If it's plugged up all the other steps could be a  waste. If it's 
never been cleaned-rebuilt-recored that might be  a step to  consider.
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2011 3:16:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jliny5 at cox.net writes:

Hi  All,

In some previous postings I have mentioned my Mk1 is tending to  run a bit 
hot
(220 or thereabouts) and recently has overflowed some coolant  through the
expansion tank hose. Seems OK on highway but in traffic or when  idling it
really heats up. I have check all hoses and retightened the fan  belt. As 
for
the fixes in the seminal Tiger Cooling article...I have a six  blade fan 
and I
have covered the horn holes. I have not installed the full  shroud-yet.
Radiator was recored by PO in 2001 but I do not know how many  rows.

As further background I have a 260 with the Edelbrock F4b intake,  Holley 
4160
4bbl (465 cfm), and the LAT 20 Hi-perfromance cam.

The  PO told me he used a 180 degree thermostat, but it must be at least  
5-8
years old I would think. I was thinking of replacing the thermostat as  the
next step in trying to improve cooling.

Question: What is the  consensus on the temp rating for a thermostat for the
260 with my set up?  Part number?

Any other thoughts are always welcome. I would be up the  creek w/o paddles 
if
it were not for the input I get from the  list.

Jim Lindner

OBTW: Stalling problem previously posted this  week seems to be corrected 
after
I adjusted carb float levels, idle  mixture, and curb idle. Also double 
checked
conenctor bolts and did vacuum  test which was OK.  Thanks.
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From FHSLOTH13 at aol.com  Sat Dec 10 13:33:10 2011
From: FHSLOTH13 at aol.com (FHSLOTH13 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:33:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] List down
Message-ID: <1faa.343a6aa3.3c151c06@aol.com>

I have been receiving emails from the list at a normal rate.
 
Fred Baum

From genepadgett at comcast.net  Sat Dec 10 15:43:14 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:43:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Stalling at idle
In-Reply-To: <4EE3BE93.9000308@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <708622357.932013.1323556994444.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Is perhaps the new server named HAL? 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com> 
To: "Tiger's List" <tigers at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:18:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Stalling at idle 

Wow. Messages from many months ago just showing up. 

Not sure what is going on here, I'm looking into it. 

mjb. 
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From jimmc13 at hughes.net  Sat Dec 10 17:20:35 2011
From: jimmc13 at hughes.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:20:35 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Test
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References: <EC572489BD92472E87817C74D33BC42A@JPC>
Message-ID: <74A2A88C0A134D8DAF5D5FCE40873980@RedBudAdminPC>

Jim,
I have been getting numbers of them..

Jim McLaughlin
Mark 1a

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On Behalf Of James Lindner
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:48 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Test

Hello

I am having trouble accessing the list. Could somebody please confirm
receipt
of this email.

Thx, Jim
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From jimmc13 at hughes.net  Sat Dec 10 17:27:25 2011
From: jimmc13 at hughes.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:27:25 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] List has been working for me.
Message-ID: <54E3557BA8BF4B72AA03F9FC6BA49D27@RedBudAdminPC>

Folks,
The list has been working for me all along, not trying to be difficult.
Jim
1966 Mk 1a
B382000175

From jliny5 at cox.net  Sat Dec 10 19:29:34 2011
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:29:34 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Old Messages
Message-ID: <4E4A2B55070A4FD9BE8937D7AB339547@JPC>

Hi All

I see many of my old messages, some from last May, are flooding everybody's
Inbox. Not sure why, but wanted to let all know I am not sending them. I guess
they must have been held in an Outbox and when I resubscibed they were
automatically sent.

Sorry about that.

Jim

From todbrown at roadrunner.com  Sat Dec 10 20:54:11 2011
From: todbrown at roadrunner.com (Tod Brown)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:54:11 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Turn signal lever/horn switch
Message-ID: <4EE42963.40906@roadrunner.com>

Beau:

It's been a while since I replaced my original switch with the one that 
has an extra position to use for the horn (or headlight flasher) but my 
recollection is that the lever is used on the 140 series Volvo.  I 
looked in my copy of CAT Notes and it says the same, so that is probably 
where I found it, although I have the vague recollection that the home 
market Alpines and Tigers had the switch with the extra position to 
flash the headlamps.  Over the years, I have acquired several turn 
signal switches, some which have failed and some which are good.  As is 
my habit when I replace a part, I usually save it and place it in the 
box the replacement came in.  I have two boxes in which I have several 
turn signal assemblies.  The Lucas numbers on the boxes are 34981 and 
34720.  In my parts manual, I found the number 34981 listed for the turn 
signal assembly.  However, the description in the parts manual says, 
"Direction Indicator and _Headlamp Flasher Switch_",  as if it is the 
home market switch, so that may be the correct number for the switch 
with the extra position, but I cannot be sure.  If you can locate the 
two switches, you can compare to see which one has an extra wire.  
Perhaps someone here can clarify.

Cheers,

Tod
B342002384LRXFE

P.S. Why did I just get several messages from the list with postings 
from June and July?

From todbrown at roadrunner.com  Sat Dec 10 21:27:28 2011
From: todbrown at roadrunner.com (Tod Brown)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:27:28 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Turn Lever Switch, Pt. 2
Message-ID: <4EE43130.3090106@roadrunner.com>

I did a bit more digging and looked at the Lucas Equipment and Service 
Parts list for Rootes - 1966.  It lists two
Direction Indicator switches:

Direction Indicator (Export North America), Model 85SA, Part No. 34720E  and

Direction Indicator and Headlamp Flashing, Model 85SA, Part No. 34719F

This at least tells me that 34720 is not the part you want.  Why the 
different part nos. for the extra position switch, I do not know.  
Perhaps one is a later number, but I don't know which.

Tod
B382002384LRXFE

From Carmods at aol.com  Sun Dec 11 06:57:26 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:57:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Test
Message-ID: <4cbe.5c83323e.3c1610c6@aol.com>

Information for those who are asking, I'm receiving E-mails  from 
_tigers at autox.team.net_ (mailto:tigers at autox.team.net) 
 
John Logan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2011 3:26:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jbbrown1980 at gmail.com writes:

Is the  list server working?  I haven't gotten any Tiger email in  days.



Thanks,

Joe Brown

Arlington,  TX

B382000217
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From Carmods at aol.com  Sun Dec 11 07:01:40 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:01:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] lug nut thread
Message-ID: <4e19.254de87c.3c1611c3@aol.com>

Hi Allen,
 
The stock Tiger and Alpine lug nuts are 7/16X20.
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2011 3:30:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
allanballard at att.net writes:

Does  anyone have the thread size for Tiger lug nuts?

Thanks in  advance,

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
SIV  Alpine

From Carmods at aol.com  Sun Dec 11 07:12:46 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:12:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] test
Message-ID: <52d5.49bed49b.3c16145e@aol.com>

Hi Allen,
 
I received your message again. You should receive two copies of this, one  
from the Tiger site and one to your address.
 
John Logan
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2011 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
allanballard at att.net writes:

Is the  list working?

I'm receiving nothing....


Allan  Ballard
Mk1a Tiger

From allanballard at att.net  Sun Dec 11 10:37:45 2011
From: allanballard at att.net (Allan Ballard)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:37:45 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Old Messages
In-Reply-To: <4E4A2B55070A4FD9BE8937D7AB339547@JPC>
References: <4E4A2B55070A4FD9BE8937D7AB339547@JPC>
Message-ID: <065A1160-444A-4555-B959-30277F859FD2@att.net>

Thanks- it looks like some of my old messages are being sent again as well..,

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:29 PM, "James Lindner" <jliny5 at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I see many of my old messages, some from last May, are flooding everybody's
> Inbox. Not sure why, but wanted to let all know I am not sending them. I
guess
> they must have been held in an Outbox and when I resubscibed they were
> automatically sent.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
> Jim
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 17 08:21:06 2011
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:21:06 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] test
Message-ID: <904706059D2C47538A973EEC7F178909@OfficePC>

Did I get dropped from the list again?  Haven't seen any email in several
days.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

Arlington, TX

B382000217

From cmccann at lwpb.com  Sat Dec 17 08:35:49 2011
From: cmccann at lwpb.com (Cullen McCann)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:35:49 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] test
In-Reply-To: <904706059D2C47538A973EEC7F178909@OfficePC>
References: <904706059D2C47538A973EEC7F178909@OfficePC>
Message-ID: <E7E4B974-DF85-428B-A077-C8EB7C097057@lwpb.com>

I think it's just been really quiet.

Cullen

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On Dec 17, 2011, at 9:32 AM, "Joe Brown" <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did I get dropped from the list again?  Haven't seen any email in several
> days.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
> Arlington, TX
>
> B382000217
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From russe at firstva.com  Sat Dec 17 15:24:55 2011
From: russe at firstva.com (Russ)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:24:55 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] test
References: <904706059D2C47538A973EEC7F178909@OfficePC>
Message-ID: <E69B9B115A1B4355A49F58A1439479A7@emachineb50903>

It seems like it been quite for several days now ... maybe longer,  ever 
since we received all of those old posting to the list.
    While I'm here ..  anyone out there have a modern paint code for the 
Rootes Light Green Metallic (67) found on the Alpine series III's?
      Many Thanks,
   Russ





From: "Joe Brown" <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
To: <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 10:21 AM
Subject: [Tigers] test


> Did I get dropped from the list again?  Haven't seen any email in several
> days.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Brown
>
> Arlington, TX
>
> B382000217
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sun Dec 18 06:47:52 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:47:52 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] test
In-Reply-To: <E69B9B115A1B4355A49F58A1439479A7@emachineb50903>
Message-ID: <FF5D46AAF9E647118A862B36DBA1A795@ronpc1>

Russ
	Maybe we all have visions of Sugar Plum Fairies dancing? :)

You would need to talk to either Doug Jennings or Dale's Restoration for a
modern paint code.   If you have a panel with that paint, take it to a paint
supplier for spectral color match.

I have these older numbers that might be of help:

Code 67  Light Green Metallic - Ditzler # 42356, Dulux enamel - 97063,
Berger code - 404.2219, ICI - 2657

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Russ
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:25 PM
To: Joe Brown; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] test


It seems like it been quite for several days now ... maybe longer,  ever
since we received all of those old posting to the list.
    While I'm here ..  anyone out there have a modern paint code for the
Rootes Light Green Metallic (67) found on the Alpine series III's?
      Many Thanks,
   Russ

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 18 10:09:13 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:09:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tigers] test
In-Reply-To: <FF5D46AAF9E647118A862B36DBA1A795@ronpc1>
References: <E69B9B115A1B4355A49F58A1439479A7@emachineb50903>
	<FF5D46AAF9E647118A862B36DBA1A795@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <1324228153.96646.YahooMailNeo@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Ron- I received your and Russ's post. I think there was another test a few
days back. Must not be any topics to discuss this time of year. That
mentioned. May the good Lord bless each of you and your familes during the
season and I hope we all remember the reason for the season is to celebrate
the birth of our saviour Jesus Christ. Merry CHRISTmas to one and all. May
everyone find a shiney now Beam part in their sock or under the tree.
Tony
Lang aka TtT (TonytheTiger)


>________________________________
>From: Ron
Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>To: 'Russ' <russe at firstva.com>;
tigers at autox.team.net 
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:47 AM
>Subject: Re:
[Tigers] test
>
>Russ
>    Maybe we all have visions of Sugar Plum Fairies
dancing? :)
>
>You would need to talk to either Doug Jennings or Dale's
Restoration for a
>modern paint code.  If you have a panel with that paint,
take it to a paint
>supplier for spectral color match.
>
>I have these older
numbers that might be of help:
>
>Code 67  Light Green Metallic - Ditzler #
42356, Dulux enamel - 97063,
>Berger code - 404.2219, ICI - 2657
>
>Ron Fraser
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Russ
>Sent: Saturday,
December 17, 2011 5:25 PM
>To: Joe Brown; tigers at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re:
[Tigers] test
>
>
>It seems like it been quite for several days now ... maybe
longer,  ever
>since we received all of those old posting to the list.
>   
While I'm here ..  anyone out there have a modern paint code for the
>Rootes
Light Green Metallic (67) found on the Alpine series III's?
>      Many
Thanks,
>  Russ
>_______________________________________________
>
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From russe at firstva.com  Mon Dec 19 04:08:11 2011
From: russe at firstva.com (Russ)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:08:11 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Paint codes
References: <FF5D46AAF9E647118A862B36DBA1A795@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <84C6B336572B4F8BA96A30AB28B8EF16@emachineb50903>

Hey Ron...
   Thanks for taking the time to post the paint codes for me ... I'll give 
'em a whirl!  I guess I'm at the age now where I thinking  'Older' is still 
'Modern'. :-)   If they don't work out I'll give Doug a call.  Appreciate 
the help!
Russ






----- Original Message ----- 
From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
To: "'Russ'" <russe at firstva.com>; <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] test


Russ
Maybe we all have visions of Sugar Plum Fairies dancing? :)

You would need to talk to either Doug Jennings or Dale's Restoration for a
modern paint code.   If you have a panel with that paint, take it to a paint
supplier for spectral color match.

I have these older numbers that might be of help:

Code 67  Light Green Metallic - Ditzler # 42356, Dulux enamel - 97063,
Berger code - 404.2219, ICI - 2657

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Russ
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:25 PM
To: Joe Brown; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] test


It seems like it been quite for several days now ... maybe longer,  ever
since we received all of those old posting to the list.
    While I'm here ..  anyone out there have a modern paint code for the
Rootes Light Green Metallic (67) found on the Alpine series III's?
      Many Thanks,
   Russ





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From genepadgett at comcast.net  Mon Dec 19 12:56:05 2011
From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:56:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Paint codes
In-Reply-To: <84C6B336572B4F8BA96A30AB28B8EF16@emachineb50903>
Message-ID: <1968446052.1316354.1324324565012.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Don't forget that Jan Servaites sells samples of the correct original colors,
based on work he has done checking many cars which have protected areas of
panels.B  He has replicated the colors and made them up as samples sprayed on
CD disks, which you can take to an auto paint store.B  They then develop a
formula in their paint to matchB  that sample using their spectrograph.B  The
hole in the CD makes an excellent focal area to compare resultant shade to
sample when overlayed.B B  Can also do that with your own paint to see how it
has faded/changed over the years.B B  Jan's email is jservaites at woh.rr.com .



BTW, I am very pleased with the sample I bought from him for color code
100.B B  He told me he paints his cars using BASF single stage Glaserit (sp?)
22.



Gene



From: "Russ" <russe at firstva.com>
To: rfraser at bluefrog.com, tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:08:11 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Paint codes

Hey Ron...
B B  Thanks for taking the time to post the paint codes for me ... I'll give
'em a whirl! B I guess I'm at the age now where I thinking B 'Older' is still
'Modern'. :-) B  If they don't work out I'll give Doug a call. B Appreciate
the help!
Russ






----- Original Message -----
From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
To: "'Russ'" <russe at firstva.com>; <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] test


Russ
Maybe we all have visions of Sugar Plum Fairies dancing? :)

You would need to talk to either Doug Jennings or Dale's Restoration for a
modern paint code. B  If you have a panel with that paint, take it to a paint
supplier for spectral color match.

I have these older numbers that might be of help:

Code 67 B Light Green Metallic - Ditzler # 42356, Dulux enamel - 97063,
Berger code - 404.2219, ICI - 2657

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Russ
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:25 PM
To: Joe Brown; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] test


It seems like it been quite for several days now ... maybe longer, B ever
since we received all of those old posting to the list.
B B  B While I'm here .. B anyone out there have a modern paint code for the
Rootes Light Green Metallic (67) found on the Alpine series III's?
B B  B  B Many Thanks,
B B  Russ





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From Carmods at aol.com  Tue Dec 20 07:22:14 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:22:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] 2012 Ford Racing Performance Parts Catalog
Message-ID: <46eb.64d2d578.3c21f416@aol.com>

In case you  need some Ford parts for your Tiger, the 2012 Ford Racing 
Performance Parts catalog is now available  online at,  
_http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199_ 
(http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199)   
The 300 page online catalog includes parts for your modified  Tiger, Ford 
Mustang, F-150, Focus, and Fiesta. You can save it at your  "Favorite Places" 
 
John Logan

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Dec 21 10:01:14 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:01:14 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] 2012 Ford Racing Performance Parts Catalog
In-Reply-To: <46eb.64d2d578.3c21f416@aol.com>
References: <46eb.64d2d578.3c21f416@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4EF210DA.2040806@mayfco.com>

Nice catalog and it has a lot more information in it than other Ford 
catalogs have had.  I do not like the online catalog format they use, so 
I surfed around on the page and found that up under tools there is a 
place you can download the Adobe  pdf version to your desktop. Then just 
save it to your documents folder and open it any time you want...

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 12/20/2011 6:22 AM, Carmods at aol.com wrote:
> In case you  need some Ford parts for your Tiger, the 2012 Ford Racing
> Performance Parts catalog is now available  online at,
> _http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199_
> (http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199)
> The 300 page online catalog includes parts for your modified  Tiger, Ford
> Mustang, F-150, Focus, and Fiesta. You can save it at your  "Favorite Places"
>
> John Logan

From Carmods at aol.com  Thu Dec 22 07:10:07 2011
From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:10:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] 2012 Ford Racing Performance Parts Catalog
Message-ID: <dbd7.6fde903c.3c24943f@aol.com>

Drmayf,
 
That's great that you found that. I looked all  over for a way to download 
the catalog. It does take a while on my old  computer.
 
John Logan 
 
 



_drmayf at mayfco.com_ (mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com)  writes:

Nice  catalog and it has a lot more information in it than other Ford 
catalogs have  had.  I do not like the online catalog format they use, so I 
surfed  around on the page and found that up under tools there is a place you can 
 download the Adobe  pdf version to your desktop. Then just save it to  
your documents folder and open it any time you want... 

mayf 
______________________________

drmayf

Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.

204.913 mph flying mile

210.779 mph exit speed

On 12/20/2011 6:22 AM, _Carmods at aol.com_ (mailto:Carmods at aol.com)  wrote:  
In case you  need some Ford parts for your Tiger, the 2012 Ford Racing 

Performance Parts catalog is now available  online at,  

__http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199__ 
(http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199_)  

(_http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199_ 
(http://editiondigital.net/publication/?i=88199) )   

The 300 page online catalog includes parts for your modified  Tiger, Ford 

Mustang, F-150, Focus, and Fiesta. You can save it at your  "Favorite 
Places" 

 

John Logan

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sun Dec 25 19:58:26 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:58:26 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild
In-Reply-To: <11f08.432cc58b.3c0fe190@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B5D73C73E7F24B99A8013F19F493C4C2@ronpc1>

Jim
	I just found this information about turn signal rebuild from Lucas
but I still think you should write something.

http://www.rootesparts.com/id226.htm

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Rollright at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:22 PM
To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Tigers] turn signal rebuild


Hello,
 
Over Thanksgiving weekend, I rebuilt my turn signal indicator  mechanical 
unit, with the nylon piece and rivet from SS.
 
Parts obtained from SS were spot on, but the instructions were woefully  
lacking. Looked in Sunbeam Survivor and Tigers United. Same thing. Has
nobody 
written this P.I.T.A. rebuild anywhere?
 
BTW: its now done and working.
 
Best,  

Jim  Armstrong
Mk 1A  
382002083
LRXFE
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From slaifman at socal.rr.com  Mon Dec 26 15:10:13 2011
From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:10:13 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Paint codes, answers
In-Reply-To: <1968446052.1316354.1324324565012.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1968446052.1316354.1324324565012.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4EF8F0C5.6040500@socal.rr.com>

If you want to see the Sunbeam color codes, then try this link:

http://www.team.net/www/rootes/sunbeam/alpine/mk1-5/paintcod.html

Right from our own "list"



/Steve Laifman/

/Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* <http://www.tigersunited.com>



On 12/19/11 11:56 AM, genepadgett at comcast.net wrote:
> Don't forget that Jan Servaites sells samples of the correct original colors,
> based on work he has done checking many cars which have protected areas of
> panels.B  He has replicated the colors and made them up as samples sprayed on
> CD disks, which you can take to an auto paint store.B  They then develop a
> formula in their paint to matchB  that sample using their spectrograph.B  The
> hole in the CD makes an excellent focal area to compare resultant shade to
> sample when overlayed.B B  Can also do that with your own paint to see how it
> has faded/changed over the years.B B  Jan's email is jservaites at woh.rr.com .
>
>
>
> BTW, I am very pleased with the sample I bought from him for color code
> 100.B B  He told me he paints his cars using BASF single stage Glaserit (sp?)
> 22.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> From: "Russ"<russe at firstva.com>
> To: rfraser at bluefrog.com, tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:08:11 AM
> Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Paint codes
>
> Hey Ron...
> B B  Thanks for taking the time to post the paint codes for me ... I'll give
> 'em a whirl! B I guess I'm at the age now where I thinking B 'Older' is still
> 'Modern'. :-) B  If they don't work out I'll give Doug a call. B Appreciate
> the help!
> Russ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " Ron Fraser"<rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> To: "'Russ'"<russe at firstva.com>;<tigers at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 8:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] test
>
>
> Russ
> Maybe we all have visions of Sugar Plum Fairies dancing? :)
>
> You would need to talk to either Doug Jennings or Dale's Restoration for a
> modern paint code. B  If you have a panel with that paint, take it to a paint
> supplier for spectral color match.
>
> I have these older numbers that might be of help:
>
> Code 67 B Light Green Metallic - Ditzler # 42356, Dulux enamel - 97063,
> Berger code - 404.2219, ICI - 2657
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Russ
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:25 PM
> To: Joe Brown; tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] test
>
>
> It seems like it been quite for several days now ... maybe longer, B ever
> since we received all of those old posting to the list.
> B B  B While I'm here .. B anyone out there have a modern paint code for the
> Rootes Light Green Metallic (67) found on the Alpine series III's?
> B B  B  B Many Thanks,
> B B  Russ
>
>
>
>
>
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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Wed Dec 28 14:06:11 2011
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (Graham Harlowe)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:06:11 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage
Message-ID: <000c01ccc5a4$873eccd0$95bc6670$@net>

Listers -

I'm in the process of building a hard top storage carrier/rack to help get
rid of some scrap wood in the basement.  I had planned to build something
similar to the carriers that are available on ebay (e.g. current item #
370176200653).  The ebay photos show a Mercedes top installed in the
carrier, with the roofline in a nearly vertical position.  This doesn't seem
to be a "natural" position for the Tiger hard top.  The Tiger top seems more
balanced when tilted slightly forward.  
  
Has anyone constructed their own hard top carrier hat would be willing to
share a photo?  Any pics of a Tiger top installed in a commercially made
carrier would be helpful as well.  (Note, unfortunately I can't suspend the
top using pulleys, etc.)  Any tips to avoid damaging the top in this stored
position?   

Thanks much, as always...

Cheers, 

Graham Harlowe
B382001466

From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Dec 28 15:02:52 2011
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:02:52 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage
In-Reply-To: <000c01ccc5a4$873eccd0$95bc6670$@net>
Message-ID: <E31343EBEA2C46CAB0AB272C504B4371@ronpc1>

Graham
	For me the best place to store the hard top is on my Tiger.  If your
working on your Sunbeam then that may not be handy.

	I have seen some of the carriers and they are very handy for holding
and getting the hard top out of the way.  I'm not sure what you mean by a
natural position. Any carrier has to be built so that the weight of the hard
top holds it down on the carrier and you can't move the hard top off the
carrier with just a touch.  You want the center of gravity of the carrier
and hard top to be as low to the ground as possible and the wheel base large
enough so it is very stable.

	Found this wood carrier and instructions for a TR6 which may give
you some good ideas.  You will probably need to adjust some of the
dimensions for a Sunbeam hard top so examine every piece if you go this
route.
http://www.74tr6.com/hardtopcarrier.htm

You can also find some with Google; hard top carriers and check the images
to for ideas.

I saw one carrier made from tubing with pipe foam insulation or the foam may
have been roll bar padding.

Good luck on your project

Happy New Year to all

Ron Fraser




-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Graham Harlowe
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:06 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage


Listers -

I'm in the process of building a hard top storage carrier/rack to help get
rid of some scrap wood in the basement.  I had planned to build something
similar to the carriers that are available on ebay (e.g. current item #
370176200653).  The ebay photos show a Mercedes top installed in the
carrier, with the roofline in a nearly vertical position.  This doesn't seem
to be a "natural" position for the Tiger hard top.  The Tiger top seems more
balanced when tilted slightly forward.

Has anyone constructed their own hard top carrier hat would be willing to
share a photo?  Any pics of a Tiger top installed in a commercially made
carrier would be helpful as well.  (Note, unfortunately I can't suspend the
top using pulleys, etc.)  Any tips to avoid damaging the top in this stored
position?

Thanks much, as always...

Cheers,

Graham Harlowe
B382001466
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From slaifman at socal.rr.com  Thu Dec 29 13:26:07 2011
From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:26:07 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage
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References: <E31343EBEA2C46CAB0AB272C504B4371@ronpc1>
Message-ID: <4EFCCCDF.1050808@socal.rr.com>

Graham,

I was faced with a problem on storing a hard top.  The resolution(s) for 
me was a home-made sling to hoist the hard top to the garage ceiling. I 
purchased the a "sling", mounted on a manual winch rope attached to a 
ceiling pulley.  Worked just fine.  As I recall, I got the sling at 
Sunbeam Specialties.

I also got a electric lift and fitted cover for my Thunderbird's hard top.
Rafter attached, from,  Thunderbird Concepts (San Diego, CA) ) On Sale, 
now, for $188 from $337:

http://www.thunderbirdconcepts.com/hardtop-cart.htm

and a Hardtop Dust Cover for top/cart.  I prefer the electric lift model:

http://www.thunderbirdconcepts.com/hoist.htm


High quality stuff.  With a little fitting, it can lift a Tiger Hardtop, 
as - but nowhere as expensive as the manual pulley system

/Steve Laifman/

/Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* <http://www.tigersunited.com>



On 12/28/11 2:02 PM,  Ron Fraser wrote:
> Graham
> 	For me the best place to store the hard top is on my Tiger.  If your
> working on your Sunbeam then that may not be handy.
>
> 	I have seen some of the carriers and they are very handy for holding
> and getting the hard top out of the way.  I'm not sure what you mean by a
> natural position. Any carrier has to be built so that the weight of the hard
> top holds it down on the carrier and you can't move the hard top off the
> carrier with just a touch.  You want the center of gravity of the carrier
> and hard top to be as low to the ground as possible and the wheel base large
> enough so it is very stable.
>
> 	Found this wood carrier and instructions for a TR6 which may give
> you some good ideas.  You will probably need to adjust some of the
> dimensions for a Sunbeam hard top so examine every piece if you go this
> route.
> http://www.74tr6.com/hardtopcarrier.htm
>
> You can also find some with Google; hard top carriers and check the images
> to for ideas.
>
> I saw one carrier made from tubing with pipe foam insulation or the foam may
> have been roll bar padding.
>
> Good luck on your project
>
> Happy New Year to all
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Graham Harlowe
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:06 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage
>
>
> Listers -
>
> I'm in the process of building a hard top storage carrier/rack to help get
> rid of some scrap wood in the basement.  I had planned to build something
> similar to the carriers that are available on ebay (e.g. current item #
> 370176200653).  The ebay photos show a Mercedes top installed in the
> carrier, with the roofline in a nearly vertical position.  This doesn't seem
> to be a "natural" position for the Tiger hard top.  The Tiger top seems more
> balanced when tilted slightly forward.
>
> Has anyone constructed their own hard top carrier hat would be willing to
> share a photo?  Any pics of a Tiger top installed in a commercially made
> carrier would be helpful as well.  (Note, unfortunately I can't suspend the
> top using pulleys, etc.)  Any tips to avoid damaging the top in this stored
> position?
>
> Thanks much, as always...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Graham Harlowe
> B382001466
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From CoolVT at aol.com  Thu Dec 29 14:45:02 2011
From: CoolVT at aol.com (CoolVT at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:45:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Non Tiger Car Test
Message-ID: <3a2ea.3594e9f.3c2e395e@aol.com>

Has your brain been on car mode vacation during the holidays? Shame on  you.
Mark
 
_http://www.americantorque.com/game2/8/11/#cntnt_ 
(http://www.americantorque.com/game2/8/11/#cntnt) 

From slaifman at socal.rr.com  Fri Dec 30 14:40:21 2011
From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:40:21 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage Part 2 (3?)
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Well,

Imagine that! I bought my electric lift from Harbor Freight, as well.  
There were more than one rating load.



/Steve Laifman/

/Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* <http://www.tigersunited.com>



On 12/30/11 10:50 AM, 65tiger at comcast.net wrote:
> that electric hoist and dongle look identical to the 1,000 lb hoist
> I bought from harbor freight. its serviced me well for 11 years,
> even used it for my crate motor (not for installation, just unload
> it from truck). it gets rare use, like suspend Christmas tree for
> wrapping and storing.
> i made a manual pulley hoist to store my electric mower at the garage
> roof. That has worked beautifully for 19 years, and gave me that
> little extra space. I am the only house on the court that parks two
> cars in the garage.
> hope you are doing well,
> curtis esl =>  trw =>  ngc :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Laifman"<slaifman at socal.rr.com>
> To: gharlowe at comcast.net
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:26:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Hard Top Storage
>
> Graham,
>
> I was faced with a problem on storing a hard top. The resolution(s) for
> me was a home-made sling to hoist the hard top to the garage ceiling. I
> purchased the a "sling", mounted on a manual winch rope attached to a
> ceiling pulley. Worked just fine. As I recall, I got the sling at
> Sunbeam Specialties.
>
> I also got a electric lift and fitted cover for my Thunderbird's hard top.
> Rafter attached, from, Thunderbird Concepts (San Diego, CA) ) On Sale,
> now, for $188 from $337:
>
> http://www.thunderbirdconcepts.com/hardtop-cart.htm
>
> and a Hardtop Dust Cover for top/cart. I prefer the electric lift model:
>
> http://www.thunderbirdconcepts.com/hoist.htm
>
>
> High quality stuff. With a little fitting, it can lift a Tiger Hardtop,
> as - but nowhere as expensive as the manual pulley system
>
> /Steve Laifman/
>
> /Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/*<http://www.tigersunited.com>
>
>
>
> On 12/28/11 2:02 PM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>> Graham
>> For me the best place to store the hard top is on my Tiger. If your
>> working on your Sunbeam then that may not be handy.
>>
>> I have seen some of the carriers and they are very handy for holding
>> and getting the hard top out of the way. I'm not sure what you mean by a
>> natural position. Any carrier has to be built so that the weight of the hard
>> top holds it down on the carrier and you can't move the hard top off the
>> carrier with just a touch. You want the center of gravity of the carrier
>> and hard top to be as low to the ground as possible and the wheel base large
>> enough so it is very stable.
>>
>> Found this wood carrier and instructions for a TR6 which may give
>> you some good ideas. You will probably need to adjust some of the
>> dimensions for a Sunbeam hard top so examine every piece if you go this
>> route.
>> http://www.74tr6.com/hardtopcarrier.htm
>>
>> You can also find some with Google; hard top carriers and check the images
>> to for ideas.
>>
>> I saw one carrier made from tubing with pipe foam insulation or the foam may
>> have been roll bar padding.
>>
>> Good luck on your project
>>
>> Happy New Year to all
>>
>> Ron Fraser