From awtiger at cox.net Tue Aug 2 21:58:48 2011 From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 22:58:48 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question Message-ID: Hey, guys: Can any of you engineer/mathmetician types out there educate me on how to figure how many gallons-per-hour a certain psi-rated fuel pump flows? Specifically, I'm wondering how many GPH a 2 to 3 psi fuel pump would flow. Can anybody send me to school? Thanks a million, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 From owain.lloyd at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 22:11:03 2011 From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 00:11:03 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: depends on the size of the plumbing and internal sizes of the pump. On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:58 PM, awtiger wrote: > Hey, guys: > > Can any of you engineer/mathmetician types out there educate me on how to > figure how many gallons-per-hour a certain psi-rated fuel pump flows? > Specifically, I'm wondering how many GPH a 2 to 3 psi fuel pump would flow. > Can anybody send me to school? > > Thanks a million, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > B382001600LRXFE > TAC #740 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd at gmail.com From genepadgett at comcast.net Mon Aug 1 22:46:05 2011 From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 04:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1827576047.51659.1312260365380.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Andy, for what little it may beB worth, the stock Tiger SU pump is rated at 15 GPH and I believe it puts out about 3 psi.B I have no idea how that is calculated, just the number published in the Shop Manual. Cheers, Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "awtiger" To: tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:58:48 PM Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question Hey, guys: Can any of you engineer/mathmetician types out there educate me on how to figure how many gallons-per-hour a certain psi-rated fuel pump flows? Specifically, I'm wondering how many GPH a 2 to 3 psi fuel pump would flow. Can anybody send me to school? Thanks a million, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett at comcast.net From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com Tue Aug 2 07:41:15 2011 From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:41:15 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question In-Reply-To: <1827576047.51659.1312260365380.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1827576047.51659.1312260365380.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <47A9A7829443AE49853415B6D05B068405ED9B66AC@OLE2K7CCR1.ad.garmin.com> Hi Andy, The two measures are completely independent from a design standpoint, but together they define how much power the pump requires. Cheers, Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett at comcast.net > Sent: August 1, 2011 10:46 PM > To: awtiger > Cc: tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question > > Andy, for what little it may beB worth, the stock Tiger SU pump is > rated at > 15 GPH and I believe it puts out about 3 psi.B I have no idea how that > is > calculated, just the number published in the Shop Manual. > > > > Cheers, Gene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "awtiger" > To: tigers at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:58:48 PM > Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question > > Hey, guys: > > Can any of you engineer/mathmetician types out there educate me on how > to > figure how many gallons-per-hour a certain psi-rated fuel pump flows? > Specifically, I'm wondering how many GPH a 2 to 3 psi fuel pump would > flow. > Can anybody send me to school? > > Thanks a million, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > B382001600LRXFE > TAC #740 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit at dynastream.com > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From mark.rense at ge.com Tue Aug 2 08:37:04 2011 From: mark.rense at ge.com (Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:37:04 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question Message-ID: Andy, The PRESSURE RATING (PSI) on a pump is based on static pressure, and that is the pressure the pump develops at zero flow. As soon as liquid begins to flow, the pressure drops. The FLOW RATE (GPH) is the maximum volume of fluid the pump can flow at a zero pressure drop. Since in the real world all pumps see some level of resistance to flow, the actual flow rate is lower than the rating. Some pumps come with a flow rate curve which plots the flow rate as a function of back-pressure, Holley rates their pumps at both zero and 5 psi. There are many things that affect the true system flow rate including tubing diameter, bends in the tubing, and filters. All these are restrictions and slow the flow rate. In a carburetor-based system, the pump feeds on a demand basis, when the carb floats open the needle valve, fuel flows until the bowls are full. The float system is designed to work at low pressures, 1 to 5 psi, so the pump needs to have a flow rate that is capable of supplying enough fuel flow to keep the carb from starving. The SU that is OEM on the Tiger is barely adequate for the stock 260, when you add horsepower the engine's demands can easily out-pace that pump's ability to feed the system. I recommend looking at a high performance pump that flows at least 80 GPH if you are running an engine with over 200 hp. The Holley Red pump has worked well for me on a variety of SBF applications including mild strokers. If you are running track days and pushing over 300 hp then the next step beyond that pump is recommended. Bugz -----Original Message----- From: awtiger Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:59 PM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question Hey, guys: Can any of you engineer/mathmetician types out there educate me on how to figure how many gallons-per-hour a certain psi-rated fuel pump flows? Specifically, I'm wondering how many GPH a 2 to 3 psi fuel pump would flow. Can anybody send me to school? Thanks a million, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense at ge.com From owain.lloyd at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 09:09:33 2011 From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:09:33 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: nice accurate explaination. thanks. be aware the holley red is LOUD and has failed on me a couple of times (clogged with bits of it internally breaking down - blew fuse - worked after cleaning). I prefer Carter now. quieter, better mountings, more choice of pumps, smaller, more reliable, less pressure drop at high flow. also a pressure regulator helps. you can have a 7psi pump and restrict the carb input to 5-6 psi. On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:37, "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" wrote: > Andy, > The PRESSURE RATING (PSI) on a pump is based on static pressure, and > that is the pressure the pump develops at zero flow. As soon as liquid > begins to flow, the pressure drops. The FLOW RATE (GPH) is the maximum > volume of fluid the pump can flow at a zero pressure drop. Since in the > real world all pumps see some level of resistance to flow, the actual > flow rate is lower than the rating. Some pumps come with a flow rate > curve which plots the flow rate as a function of back-pressure, Holley > rates their pumps at both zero and 5 psi. > > There are many things that affect the true system flow rate including > tubing diameter, bends in the tubing, and filters. All these are > restrictions and slow the flow rate. In a carburetor-based system, the > pump feeds on a demand basis, when the carb floats open the needle > valve, fuel flows until the bowls are full. The float system is designed > to work at low pressures, 1 to 5 psi, so the pump needs to have a flow > rate that is capable of supplying enough fuel flow to keep the carb from > starving. > > The SU that is OEM on the Tiger is barely adequate for the stock 260, > when you add horsepower the engine's demands can easily out-pace that > pump's ability to feed the system. I recommend looking at a high > performance pump that flows at least 80 GPH if you are running an engine > with over 200 hp. The Holley Red pump has worked well for me on a > variety of SBF applications including mild strokers. If you are running > track days and pushing over 300 hp then the next step beyond that pump > is recommended. > > Bugz > > -----Original Message----- > From: awtiger > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:59 PM > To: tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Fuel pump flow rate question > > Hey, guys: > > Can any of you engineer/mathmetician types out there educate me on how > to figure how many gallons-per-hour a certain psi-rated fuel pump flows? > Specifically, I'm wondering how many GPH a 2 to 3 psi fuel pump would > flow. > Can anybody send me to school? > > Thanks a million, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > B382001600LRXFE > TAC #740 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense at ge.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd at gmail.com From vesselofgrace at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 02:59:17 2011 From: vesselofgrace at hotmail.com (Nathan) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Wide ratio gears Message-ID: Anyone have a recommendation as to a cheap place to find a wide ratio seat of gears to swap into my tranny? Nathan Johnson From michael.s.king at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 05:39:16 2011 From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:39:16 +1000 Subject: [Tigers] Wide ratio gears In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No idea about cheap.. but try top l;oader heaven.. they stock gearsets. As for wanting to swap from C/R to wide ratio.. in theory there will be mustang, cobra and other cars racing with top loaders that would liek your gearset for competition work over their setups,.. maybe post to a historic racing forum offering a trade? -- Regards Michael King From sunbeamtiger at prodigy.net Thu Aug 4 13:13:31 2011 From: sunbeamtiger at prodigy.net (Paul R Sheahan) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance Message-ID: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I would like to get your opinion. What is the best collector car insurance? I have been using Nationwide but they have decided to increase their rates. I have had good service with them but I want to explore my options. So what do you think? Paul Paul R Sheahan From jimboynton at comcast.net Thu Aug 4 13:36:29 2011 From: jimboynton at comcast.net (Jim Boynton) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:36:29 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance In-Reply-To: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002901cc52dd$d365dca0$7a3195e0$@net> Hagerty -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul R Sheahan Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:14 PM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance Hello Everyone, I would like to get your opinion. What is the best collector car insurance? I have been using Nationwide but they have decided to increase their rates. I have had good service with them but I want to explore my options. So what do you think? Paul Paul R Sheahan _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimboynton at comcast.net From jd.sencindiver at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 13:39:56 2011 From: jd.sencindiver at gmail.com (Jim Sencindiver) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:39:56 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance In-Reply-To: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Paul, I use American Collector's http://www.americancollectors.com/ I have an agreed to value policy with them. They were recommended by USAA, since USAA does not insure classic/collector cars. Never had to file a claim with them, so I can't say how they handle claims. IIRC, my insurance with them runs about $140/yr. Keep on Tigering! Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Paul R Sheahan wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I would like to get your opinion. What is the best collector car > insurance? I have been using Nationwide but they have decided to increase > their rates. I have had good service with them but I want to explore my > options. > So what do you think? > > Paul > Paul R Sheahan > _______________________________________________ From cmccann at lwpb.com Thu Aug 4 13:46:14 2011 From: cmccann at lwpb.com (Cullen McCann) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:46:14 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance In-Reply-To: <002901cc52dd$d365dca0$7a3195e0$@net> References: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <002901cc52dd$d365dca0$7a3195e0$@net> Message-ID: <4419C83983D4FB47AADD6847090647338CAD67E8DA@LWPB-EX1.LWPB.local> As another option, I have Condon and Skelly, and although I have never had a claim, ( knock on wood) they seem to be very good to work with. Stated value type premium..limited mileage. Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance Hello Everyone, I would like to get your opinion. What is the best collector car insurance? I have been using Nationwide but they have decided to increase their rates. I have had good service with them but I want to explore my options. So what do you think? Paul Paul R Sheahan From Carmods at aol.com Fri Aug 5 06:56:24 2011 From: Carmods at aol.com (Carmods at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance Message-ID: <4b0d9.3ac0a022.3b6d4278@aol.com> Hi Paul, Hagerty. I had excellent results when settling a claim with them on a totaled car. John Logan From lon at sedona.net Fri Aug 5 12:46:26 2011 From: lon at sedona.net (Lon Walters) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:46:26 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Insurance References: Message-ID: <6F9647CE2964430DA18543915F73AA84@none25j1mj1zcx> Hagerty, had a claim after a miswiring that fried the entire electrical system on a street rod. Allowed me to go the best of the best I could find, and this guy worked out of his own garage. Paid it all . . . great, great, company. Have four cars with them, would not use anyone else. Lon, AZ From slaifman at socal.rr.com Fri Aug 5 16:03:05 2011 From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman) Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:03:05 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance In-Reply-To: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1312485211.92321.YahooMailClassic@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E3C6899.9000402@socal.rr.com> Paul, I went to Haggerty and found some good coverage, BUT they would not also insure the rest of my cars. They were not "classics", so I had to support 2 other policies! I have been using The Auto Club for a very long time, but the Tiger was insured (and priced) for "Stated Value". AAA is a not *for* profit organization. But they have side benefits, are local and across the US. You might want to investigate them for all your cars (multi-car discount) and good service. For 3 cars it is not expensive, but what happens when the "stated value" car is totaled I can't say. No history of any claims (thankfully) , except my daughter totaled our 1971 Ford Sedan. Ought to check them out as it may be the best deal around. /Steve Laifman/ /Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* On 8/4/11 12:13 PM, Paul R Sheahan wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I would like to get your opinion. What is the best collector car > insurance? I have been using Nationwide but they have decided to increase > their rates. I have had good service with them but I want to explore my > options. > So what do you think? > > Paul > Paul R Sheahan From mjsutter at cox.net Fri Aug 5 19:09:03 2011 From: mjsutter at cox.net (Mike and Jeri Sutter) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:09:03 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car insurance Message-ID: <23998F169800498C86D59D3FECF90EE6@SutterPC> I used American Collectors for my Tiger once. I had a bad experience with them when I had to make a claim. From BOBCARNUT at aol.com Sat Aug 6 17:01:01 2011 From: BOBCARNUT at aol.com (BOBCARNUT at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance Message-ID: <1057c.4f8bdcd9.3b6f21ad@aol.com> Make sure you know what you are getting!......."Stated Value" and "Agreed value" are NOT the same. One lets the insurer (the insurance company) re-appraise the value of the insured car at time of claim, while the other pays the insured (you) the pre-agreed on value of the car if it is totaled. Bob Lerch From musta32188 at msn.com Sun Aug 7 11:30:28 2011 From: musta32188 at msn.com (PHILLIP SILK) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 13:30:28 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Tiger book and magazine collection for sale Message-ID: I am selling my collection of Tiger-related books and magazines, since Ive already sold my Tiger. Before I put them on Ebay, I wanted to see if any of you are interested. Make me an offer for the books. The magazines are $10 each plus shipping, but feel free to make an offer for one or a batch, or all of it (if you want a pretty thorough collection all at once!). See the list below. All of the books and magazines have normal wear. Thanks. Phillip Books 1) The Works Tigers, by Graham Rood. 2) Tiger: An Exceptional Motorcar, by William Carroll 3) Automobile Quarterly, First Quarter 1984, Sunbeam TigerSuccess in the Shadow of the Tiger 4) Rootes Maestros, by Graham Robson 5) Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger, by Graham Robson Magazines 1) June 2007 Octane, Roaring Tigers 2) September 2005 Sports & Exotic Car, Alpine Series IV Returns to the Track 3) October 2005 Classic Cars, Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger Buying Wisdom 4) January1993 Classic and Sportscar, Tiger Tales about works rally cars 5) April 1989 Classic and Sportscar, Rallying Point, which includes ADU312B 6) April 2004 Classic and Sportscar, Call of the Wild, Healey v. Tiger comparison 7) April-May 2003 British Car, Alpine vs. Tiger 8) November 1999 Classic and Sportscar, Daimler Dart and Tiger comparison 9) February 2001 Classic and Sportscar, V8 Legends, Tiger v. Mustang v. Cobra 10) December 2005 Mustang & Fords, One of a Kind, early restored Tiger article From slaifman at socal.rr.com Sun Aug 7 16:50:00 2011 From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Steve Laifman) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Collector Car Insurance In-Reply-To: <1057c.4f8bdcd9.3b6f21ad@aol.com> References: <1057c.4f8bdcd9.3b6f21ad@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E3F1698.4010709@socal.rr.com> Bob, thanks for the warning, and you are exactly correct. I got the "/*Agreed Value*/" coverage (although I may have to raise the value). Steve /Steve Laifman/ /Editor - /*/TigersUnited.com/* On 8/6/11 4:01 PM, BOBCARNUT at aol.com wrote: > Make sure you know what you are getting!......."Stated Value" and > "Agreed value" are NOT the same. One lets the insurer (the insurance > company) re-appraise the value of the insured car at time of claim, > while the other pays the insured (you) the pre-agreed on value of the > car if it is totaled. > > Bob Lerch From member at linkedin.com Sun Aug 7 19:16:04 2011 From: member at linkedin.com (Don Story via LinkedIn) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 01:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <429435678.3006662.1312766164427.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed80.prod> LinkedIn ------------ Don Story requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Theo, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Don Accept invitation from Don Story http://www.linkedin.com/e/91luu5-gr2r2v95-5k/ugqUQvVubm-FYOBGlRvnCCTRQrNvkTntLw/blk/I3016545053_2/1BpC5vrmRLoRZcjkkZt5YCpnlOt3RApnhMpmdzgmhxrSNBszYOnPcRc3kQdjoNc3d9bS5yhC8RcCZ7bP8PdP8McjkUdPcLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/ View profile of Don Story http://www.linkedin.com/e/91luu5-gr2r2v95-5k/rsn/134157230/v3Zr/ ------------------------------------------ From rjw at wengco.com Mon Aug 8 06:29:51 2011 From: rjw at wengco.com (Robert J. Wanty) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:29:51 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition Message-ID: <9710CD40E7A1FF4AA23488B1167FA34B1E9F0D@weco1.wengco.com> I would like to convert the semi stock 260 ford dual point ignition to electronic ignition, any suggestions? Bob B382001318 From shutchin at netjets.com Mon Aug 8 07:03:37 2011 From: shutchin at netjets.com (Scott Hutchinson) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:03:37 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition Message-ID: <8137B53CC678E1428DCF860CE08E33D40D4EAAF2@cmhprdexc03.netjets.com> Pertronix Scott Hutchinson Pilot, NetJets Aviation Mobile 843.290.2805 *** ******* This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. From BOBCARNUT at aol.com Mon Aug 8 07:05:53 2011 From: BOBCARNUT at aol.com (BOBCARNUT at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition Message-ID: <6486.57803604.3b713931@aol.com> Pertronix Ignitor 1 and Pertronix Flame Thrower coil....Total cost, just over $100. Bob L. Former B382001828 From rfraser at bluefrog.com Mon Aug 8 10:54:20 2011 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition In-Reply-To: <9710CD40E7A1FF4AA23488B1167FA34B1E9F0D@weco1.wengco.com> Message-ID: Bob I have been using a Pertronix ignition system for about 30 years with no problems; stock 260 engine and distributor. They list a unit just for the dual point distributor with or without vacuum and it is fairly easy to install and set up. Accel has or did have a similar part but I have no experience with that part. Always check that the advance weights and mechanism has freedom of movement. You should probably check your advance curve before and after installing any electronic ignition system just to be sure and check your initial timing. Anytime you work on the ignition system and change anything, the initial timing is bound to also change some. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert J. Wanty Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:30 AM To: Tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition I would like to convert the semi stock 260 ford dual point ignition to electronic ignition, any suggestions? Bob B382001318 _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser at bluefrog.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3812 - Release Date: 08/05/11 06:34:00 From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net Mon Aug 8 11:26:42 2011 From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:26:42 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition In-Reply-To: <9710CD40E7A1FF4AA23488B1167FA34B1E9F0D@weco1.wengco.com> References: <9710CD40E7A1FF4AA23488B1167FA34B1E9F0D@weco1.wengco.com> Message-ID: <51ED435F51134846ACDE0F2225009615@BucksLaptop> Hi Bob, First, for street use, I'd suggest a distributor with a vacuum advance. Second, I'd suggest either putting the dual point on eBay or on the shelf. (They are bringing some nice $$.) Most car part stores sell rebuilt distributors for less than $50. If you chose an early Ford Dura spark you'd have a much more accurate electronic trigger than you'd get with a Pertronix. However you'd still need a way to generate the spark (a feature which is already built into the Pertronix). This could be anything from a $10 GM HEI module through a MSD box. The former would perform at least as well as a Pertronix I and the latter will out perform the Pertronix III in every way. In my experience, both of these would be more reliable than the Pertronix setups. If you chose a HEI/Dura spark and something broke on a road trip, any parts store could get you fixed up (which is part of the reason I use the Dura spark/HEI on our street Tigers). With the Pertronix you may need a motel room for a day or two. Be aware that the Pertronix I is prone to burn up if you use a coil system with less than 1.5 ohms resistance. The Pertronix II uses a 0.625 Ohm coil and the Pertronix III uses a 0.032 Ohm coil. You can burn up the Pertronix unit if the coil has too little resistance. In a pinch, I've used a ballast resistor. BTW, Pertronix now seems to have fixed the quality problems they had a year ago with their coil suppliers. However I do not know if bad parts are still in inventories. I'm heading out in a couple days for the races at Monterey & have a Pertronix in the SCF Tiger. We went through almost a season before we debugged our Pertronix problems. (One example: Installed new coil out of box & had intermittent high RPM misfire. Replaced with another identical new coil out of box and problem fixed. "Intermittent" coil returned to Pertronix where it tested good!) Right now we still keep our fingers crossed. :-) On the other hand, if you don't use your Tiger for trips or reliability isn't a major consideration, the Pertronix is not a bad choice. Buck Trippel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert J. Wanty" To: Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:29 AM Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition >I would like to convert the semi stock 260 ford dual point ignition to > electronic ignition, any suggestions? > > > > Bob > > B382001318 From slaifman at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 8 21:19:36 2011 From: slaifman at socal.rr.com (Tiger_Steve) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:19:36 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Electronic Ignition In-Reply-To: <6486.57803604.3b713931@aol.com> References: <6486.57803604.3b713931@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E40A748.9030908@socal.rr.com> On 8/8/11 6:05 AM, BOBCARNUT at aol.com wrote: > Pertronix Ignitor 1 and Pertronix Flame Thrower coil....Total cost, just > over $100. > > Bob L. Former B382001828 > _______________________________________________ I have brand new - still in the boxes - Pertronix II and Ignitor II for about 10 years. bought them about 5 years after the Pertronix I and Flame Thrower I as "spares" - just in case. Well just you don't know - If you have spares, you'll never get to use them! Not a bad word to tell about. Works fine. Although the new coil is "jazzed-up" a little with a chrome housing! Wonder if I will ever need them, and no, they are not for sale! One happy camper. Steve From sunbeamtiger at prodigy.net Tue Aug 9 15:14:50 2011 From: sunbeamtiger at prodigy.net (Paul R Sheahan) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tigers] Car Capsule Message-ID: <1312924490.43249.YahooMailClassic@web83704.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello Tiger Owners, Has anyone used one of the plastic car bubble to store their car? I am moving into a new warehouse and want to protect the car. Paul Paul R Sheahan From csx2282 at sonic.net Tue Aug 9 19:51:58 2011 From: csx2282 at sonic.net (csx2282) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 18:51:58 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 81 References: Message-ID: <62BB613035A743AFBF2473A824D94D5B@Cobra> My Pertronix backup- old dual points and cap in a box in the trunk tool box. Roland >On 8/8/11 6:05 AM, BOBCARNUT at aol.com wrote: > Pertronix Ignitor 1 and Pertronix Flame Thrower coil....Total cost, just > over $100. > > Bob L. Former B382001828 > _______________________________________________ I have brand new - still in the boxes - Pertronix II and Ignitor II for about 10 years. bought them about 5 years after the Pertronix I and Flame Thrower I as "spares" - just in case. Well just you don't know - If you have spares, you'll never get to use them! Not a bad word to tell about. Works fine. Although the new coil is "jazzed-up" a little with a chrome housing! Wonder if I will ever need them, and no, they are not for sale! One happy camper. Steve From genepadgett at comcast.net Tue Aug 9 20:36:14 2011 From: genepadgett at comcast.net (genepadgett at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 81 In-Reply-To: <62BB613035A743AFBF2473A824D94D5B@Cobra> Message-ID: <1565936545.401910.1312943774359.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Roland, not a bad idea.B B G ot a b allast resistor in there too? Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "csx2282" To: tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 8:51:58 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 81 My Pertronix backup- old dual points and cap in a box in the trunk tool box. Roland >On 8/8/11 6:05 AM, BOBCARNUT at aol.com wrote: > Pertronix Ignitor 1 and Pertronix Flame Thrower coil....Total cost, just > over $100. > > B B B B B B B B B Bob L. B B Former B382001828 > _______________________________________________ I have brand new - still in the boxes - Pertronix II B and Ignitor II for about 10 years. B bought them about 5 years after the Pertronix I and Flame Thrower I as "spares" - just in case. Well just you don't know - If you have spares, you'll never get to use them! Not a bad word to tell about. B Works fine. B Although the new coil is "jazzed-up" a little with a chrome housing! Wonder if I will ever need them, and no, they are not for sale! One happy camper. Steve _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett at comcast.net From laurin212 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 10 06:54:59 2011 From: laurin212 at yahoo.com (Peter Laurinaitis) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:54:59 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Car Capsule In-Reply-To: <1312924490.43249.YahooMailClassic@web83704.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1312924490.43249.YahooMailClassic@web83704.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0C5FD8A5-2202-4F33-91C2-54954EC91CF1@yahoo.com> I'm curious as well, I have a warehouse but the concrete seems to crate a lot of dust Sent from my iPad On Aug 9, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Paul R Sheahan wrote: > Hello Tiger Owners, > Has anyone used one of the plastic car bubble to store their car? I am > moving into a new warehouse and want to ... From crbernardino at mac.com Sat Aug 13 16:19:46 2011 From: crbernardino at mac.com (Rob Bernardino) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Non-Tiger: Two generations of "British Mania" Message-ID: <7784E336-D455-41C1-A7E2-466FD4900C77@mac.com> Not tiger but a nice little video. Rob http://jalopnik.com/5830537/two-generations-of-british-mania Rob in Carmel, CA 1966 Mk1A Tiger B382000262 LRXFE JAL660245 Color Code 39: Carnival Red TAC# 0519 From robin02 at mindspring.com Mon Aug 15 09:34:24 2011 From: robin02 at mindspring.com (RObin Young) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:34:24 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Thanks Message-ID: It has been a great eleven years with this on line community and I have received great help from many of you in rescuing a Tiger in poor condition. Circumstances have caused me to sell the car for transport to Switzerland. The new owner is Chris Rennhard. He is a systems engineer for automation controls and I am sure will be a great contributor to wisdom on the list. Norm, the Vin is B9471769. Thank you all for the considerable help. Robin Young From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net Mon Aug 15 20:55:31 2011 From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers at Monterey Message-ID: <3A1925878C0D424A8480E98D0EB0D3E5@BUCK> All the Tigers survived the Pre Reunion weekend in good shape. In the featured race on Sunday, John Morton started at the rear of the 35 car grid (due to a broken rocker arm during the Saturday qualifying race) and drove the Sports Car Forum through the pack to an 8th place finish. Tom Sakai withdrew due to a pesky electrical problem. Gordon England finished 25th in the Le Mans Coupe while Lorraine Gruys came in at 29th. Favorite Terry Gough also had a mechanical problem which caused him to drop out while leading the race. Tommy Steuer won the race in a GT 350. Morton showed flashes of speed several times during the weekend. He was 6th quickest in the Saturday practice session and 3rd quick during Sunday's warm-up. During Sunday's race, he and one Cobra were consistently the fastest (193 Kph) on the radar gun on the main straight when passing the Start/Finish line. Hopefully the rocker arm problem is solved and he'll be able to cut loose during next weekend's Monterey Reunion. Tigers are scheduled to practice Thursday and Friday at 9:15 AM. They have a qualifying race on Saturday morning that will set the grid for their main race Saturday afternoon. The Tigers do not go on track on Sunday. For those attending the races, the Tiger pits are in "F" aisle, spaces 12 through 18. hope to see you there, bt From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Aug 15 21:33:45 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] 260 - 289 crank Message-ID: <4E49E519.1010701@mayfco.com> I need a near virgin 260 - 289 crank. Especially the rod journals. I want to destroke it just a tad and that requires a ful journal, not one that has been turned down to an under size condition. Journal should be 2.1232 inches in diameter. Iffn any of you have a candidate crank, shoot me an email or reply to this one and tell me what ya got and how much etc. I am going to build a 260 motor up for Bonneville for year after next. The 260 bore and stroke fits so close to the upper limit of displacement in one class, that I want to destroke the crank just a tad for breathing room. now to find some really high compression ratio pistons.... any thought there? mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From michael.s.king at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 22:35:53 2011 From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:35:53 +1000 Subject: [Tigers] 2011 winton histroics Message-ID: The winton historic meet was on in counrty victoria on the weekend, i did 335miles in the tiger on the sunday to watch it.. here are some pics, i took photos of some of the aussie cars this time, as i realise they are probably of interest to guys in the states: full album: http://rides.webshots.com/album/580735593yMZJJL -- Regards Michael King From drmayf at mayfco.com Wed Aug 17 08:39:41 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] 2011 winton histroics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E4BD2AD.9060507@mayfco.com> Michael, many thanks for he great photos! The first two or three show a tripole of Tigers with one bieng what looks to be midnight blue color..with wire wheels. I like the look of the wire wheels. Any idea what they may be from or special order or? again, thanks for taking the time to post these. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 8/16/2011 9:35 PM, michael king wrote: > The winton historic meet was on in counrty victoria on the weekend, i did > 335miles in the tiger on the sunday to watch it.. here are some pics, i took > photos of some of the aussie cars this time, as i realise they are probably > of interest to guys in the states: > > full album: > http://rides.webshots.com/album/580735593yMZJJL From senns at wiband.ca Wed Aug 17 10:27:38 2011 From: senns at wiband.ca (Sheldon Enns) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:27:38 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Windshield & Soft-Top Installation Procedure Message-ID: Hello everyone, It's been a while since my last contribution, but I still read everyone else's faithfully. :-) We are getting ready to install the windshield and soft-top on our Tiger. When we got the car the windshield was in, and re-installation of it should be straight forward, but the soft-top had been cut off and removed. Does anyone have comprehensive instructions for installing the windshield and soft-top? Would we line up the windshield and door glass first and then work on installing the top? We've been debating what to do for a few months now and we're running out of hot days for stretching the top. Any advice would be most helpful. Thank you and have a wonderful day, Sheldon Enns [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From twotigers at verizon.net Wed Aug 17 11:54:09 2011 From: twotigers at verizon.net (Kirk Smith) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:54:09 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Dale A aluminum radiator Message-ID: <000001cc5d06$aac13f00$0043bd00$@net> I have a new Dale A rad in the box that I cannot use. The PO replaced the front clip with an early model Alpine that doesn't come close to having hardware and mounting in the places I need them. The radiator has been test fit a couple of times. I will have pics posted on the CAT forum under 'parts for sale' shortly. If you would like pics emailed to you, let me know. I know there were a couple of people looking for an aluminum rad earlier in the year. Thanks, Kirk. From alittlemoreink at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 12:43:58 2011 From: alittlemoreink at hotmail.com (John Crawley) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:43:58 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] TIGER Top Install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sheldon: Try . . . http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/JCrawleyRest/rt-JCrawleyRest19.asp This was written some time ago but most of it is still applicable except the part about the tension rods which were not available when I wrote the article. If you have any questions please drop me an -e-. One addition . . . most tops can be tightened a bit after they are installed by using a clothing steam gun on the inside but wait quite a while before you try this as they do shrink a bit by themselves and do not over shrink. Jc > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:27:38 -0500 > From: "Sheldon Enns" > To: > Subject: [Tigers] Windshield & Soft-Top Installation Procedure > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello everyone, > > It's been a while since my last contribution, but I still read everyone > else's faithfully. :-) > > We are getting ready to install the windshield and soft-top on our Tiger. > When we got the car the windshield was in, and re-installation of it should > be straight forward, but the soft-top had been cut off and removed. Does > anyone have comprehensive instructions for installing the windshield and > soft-top? > > Would we line up the windshield and door glass first and then work on > installing the top? We've been debating what to do for a few months now and > we're running out of hot days for stretching the top. > > Any advice would be most helpful. > > Thank you and have a wonderful day, > > Sheldon Enns From senns at wiband.ca Wed Aug 17 14:08:25 2011 From: senns at wiband.ca (Sheldon Enns) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:08:25 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] TIGER Top Install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello John, Thank you. Another lister suggested installing the hard top to line up the windshield, so I think with these 2 pieces of information we should be able to do a very good job. Thank you again :), Sheldon Enns -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Crawley Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] TIGER Top Install Hi Sheldon: Try . . . http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/JCrawleyRest/rt-JCrawleyRest19.asp This was written some time ago but most of it is still applicable except the part about the tension rods which were not available when I wrote the article. If you have any questions please drop me an -e-. One addition . . . most tops can be tightened a bit after they are installed by using a clothing steam gun on the inside but wait quite a while before you try this as they do shrink a bit by themselves and do not over shrink. Jc > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:27:38 -0500 > From: "Sheldon Enns" > To: > Subject: [Tigers] Windshield & Soft-Top Installation Procedure > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello everyone, > > It's been a while since my last contribution, but I still read everyone > else's faithfully. :-) > > We are getting ready to install the windshield and soft-top on our Tiger. > When we got the car the windshield was in, and re-installation of it should > be straight forward, but the soft-top had been cut off and removed. Does > anyone have comprehensive instructions for installing the windshield and > soft-top? > > Would we line up the windshield and door glass first and then work on > installing the top? We've been debating what to do for a few months now and > we're running out of hot days for stretching the top. > > Any advice would be most helpful. > > Thank you and have a wonderful day, > > Sheldon Enns _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/senns at wiband.ca From v8tracker at gmail.com Wed Aug 17 14:54:49 2011 From: v8tracker at gmail.com (A. C. Tynes) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:54:49 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] 2011 winton histroics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F18F7AC65574E068C9CD2914218B19C@DellD4700> Michael, Great pictures of wonderful cars, as usual. Thanks for sharing. A. C. Tynes New Orleans -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael king Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:36 PM To: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: [Tigers] 2011 winton histroics The winton historic meet was on in counrty victoria on the weekend, i did 335miles in the tiger on the sunday to watch it.. here are some pics, i took photos of some of the aussie cars this time, as i realise they are probably of interest to guys in the states: full album: http://rides.webshots.com/album/580735593yMZJJL -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/v8tracker at gmail.com From 65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net Sun Aug 21 21:17:21 2011 From: 65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net (dougbabcock) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] TAC event in Portland OR on 9/3 Message-ID: <898018762.249066.1313983041388.JavaMail.root@sz0167a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> We will be performing TAC inspections at the upcoming All British Field Meet at Portland International Raceway on Saturday, September 3rd.B If you haven't attended before, B it is a fun event with generally 500 British cars of all marques, 3 days of vintage racing, and a swap meet on Sunday. No need to preregister for a TAC - just seek us out in the Sunbeam section of the car show. Doug Babcock From senns at wiband.ca Sun Aug 21 21:23:49 2011 From: senns at wiband.ca (Sheldon Enns) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:23:49 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] TIGER Top Install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello everyone, I just wanted to say thank you for all the advice. We got the top installed today and it looks great! Sheldon -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sheldon Enns Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:08 PM To: John Crawley; LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] TIGER Top Install Hello John, Thank you. Another lister suggested installing the hard top to line up the windshield, so I think with these 2 pieces of information we should be able to do a very good job. Thank you again :), Sheldon Enns -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Crawley Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] TIGER Top Install Hi Sheldon: Try . . . http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/JCrawleyRest/rt-JCrawleyRest19.asp This was written some time ago but most of it is still applicable except the part about the tension rods which were not available when I wrote the article. If you have any questions please drop me an -e-. One addition . . . most tops can be tightened a bit after they are installed by using a clothing steam gun on the inside but wait quite a while before you try this as they do shrink a bit by themselves and do not over shrink. Jc > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:27:38 -0500 > From: "Sheldon Enns" > To: > Subject: [Tigers] Windshield & Soft-Top Installation Procedure > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello everyone, > > It's been a while since my last contribution, but I still read everyone > else's faithfully. :-) > > We are getting ready to install the windshield and soft-top on our Tiger. > When we got the car the windshield was in, and re-installation of it should > be straight forward, but the soft-top had been cut off and removed. Does > anyone have comprehensive instructions for installing the windshield and > soft-top? > > Would we line up the windshield and door glass first and then work on > installing the top? We've been debating what to do for a few months now and > we're running out of hot days for stretching the top. > > Any advice would be most helpful. > > Thank you and have a wonderful day, > > Sheldon Enns _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/senns at wiband.ca _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/senns at wiband.ca From pmuss at aol.com Tue Aug 23 17:01:05 2011 From: pmuss at aol.com (pmuss at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Tigers] tiger vent Message-ID: <8CE2FFFAC5D11D7-207C-51BFD@webmail-m143.sysops.aol.com> Please help. looking for a gentleman who was at the last united selling tiger vent kits to install onto a MK1. I lost his contact information. Please advise he is in california thanks Paul tigrv8 at aol.com From rfraser at bluefrog.com Tue Aug 23 18:06:01 2011 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:06:01 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] tiger vent In-Reply-To: <8CE2FFFAC5D11D7-207C-51BFD@webmail-m143.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52B6D47395B44EA2A0CEE5A452181620@ronpc1> Paul Probably Rick from Sunbeam Specialties. http://www.rootes.com/ Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pmuss at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:01 PM To: TIGERS at AUTOX.TEAM.NET Subject: [Tigers] tiger vent Please help. looking for a gentleman who was at the last united selling tiger vent kits to install onto a MK1. I lost his contact information. Please advise he is in california thanks Paul tigrv8 at aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser at bluefrog.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3850 - Release Date: 08/23/11 06:34:00 From modtiger at comcast.net Wed Aug 24 01:00:16 2011 From: modtiger at comcast.net (Tom Hall) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:00:16 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] tiger vent In-Reply-To: <8CE2FFFAC5D11D7-207C-51BFD@webmail-m143.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE2FFFAC5D11D7-207C-51BFD@webmail-m143.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4E54A180.6080509@comcast.net> On 8/23/2011 4:01 PM, pmuss at aol.com wrote: > Please help. looking for a gentleman who was at the last united selling tiger > vent kits to install onto a MK1. I lost his contact information. Please advise > he is in california thanks Paul tigrv8 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/modtiger at comcast.net > > > That would be Pat King (patrick at lgsrc.com). He buys and disassembles Alpines to provide spare parts. The installation parts come from Series V Alpine donors. Sunbeam Specialties sells the rebuild kits to repair the internals. Pat sells the OEM Vents and related hardware. -- Tom Hall ModTiger Engineering LLC www.tigerengineering.net From drmayf at mayfco.com Wed Aug 24 14:16:33 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:16:33 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car Message-ID: <4E555C21.1050807@mayfco.com> Seeking a pair of used heads, either World Products Windsor Jr with 1.94 intake and 1.6 exhaust and 60 cc combusion chamber size. Complete heads. Or AFr 165 heads for the Ford, with 1.90 intake and 1.60 exhaust with 58 cc combustion chambers. Like wise complete. These are the only two I would like to have. I have surfed a LOT ans had found noting used. Any of you have such? mayf Oh, Tiger content... this motor will after hitting the salt go into my Tiger, B947136. -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From sganz at pacbell.net Wed Aug 24 18:50:08 2011 From: sganz at pacbell.net (Sandy Ganz) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car In-Reply-To: <4E555C21.1050807@mayfco.com> References: <4E555C21.1050807@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <1314233408.97726.YahooMailRC@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good Dr. I have a set of very ported aluminum Canfields with Ti valves, new isky tool room roller spring, Ti retainers, one of the ports needs welding (intake) due to weld that was not done right. Yours for a song if you want to try to fix. These might be big for your small Cube motor, but RPM can fix that. They have around 58cc chamber when last checked and made around 570hp on a 331 with 12:1 CR and a healthy roller (I may even have a spare roller and some shaft rockers that you can get working with a few parts) Sandy ----- Original Message ---- From: Larry Mayfield To: "tigers at autox.team.net" Sent: Wed, August 24, 2011 1:16:33 PM Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car Seeking a pair of used heads, either World Products Windsor Jr with 1.94 intake and 1.6 exhaust and 60 cc combusion chamber size. Complete heads. Or AFr 165 heads for the Ford, with 1.90 intake and 1.60 exhaust with 58 cc combustion chambers. Like wise complete. These are the only two I would like to have. I have surfed a LOT ans had found noting used. Any of you have such? mayf Oh, Tiger content... this motor will after hitting the salt go into my Tiger, B947136. -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz at pacbell.net From BuckTrippel at Verizon.net Thu Aug 25 02:41:55 2011 From: BuckTrippel at Verizon.net (Buck Trippel) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:41:55 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car In-Reply-To: <1314233408.97726.YahooMailRC@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4E555C21.1050807@mayfco.com> <1314233408.97726.YahooMailRC@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sandy & Larry, I've got a great source for doing the welding. Let me know if you want some help. bt -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sandy Ganz" Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:50 PM To: ; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car > Good Dr. > > I have a set of very ported aluminum Canfields with Ti valves, new > isky tool > room roller spring, Ti retainers, one of the ports needs welding > (intake) due > to weld that was not done right. Yours for a song if you want to > try to fix. > These might be big for your small Cube motor, but RPM can fix > that. They have > around 58cc chamber when last checked and made around 570hp > on a 331 with 12:1 > CR and a healthy roller (I may even have a spare roller > and some shaft rockers > that you can get working with a few parts) > > Sandy > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Larry Mayfield > To: > "tigers at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wed, August 24, 2011 > 1:16:33 PM > Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car > > Seeking a pair of > used heads, either World Products Windsor Jr with 1.94 intake > and 1.6 exhaust > and 60 cc combusion chamber size. Complete heads. Or AFr 165 > heads for the > Ford, with 1.90 intake and 1.60 exhaust with 58 cc combustion > chambers. Like > wise complete. > > These are the only two I would like to have. I have surfed a > LOT ans had found > noting used. > > Any of you have such? > > mayf > > Oh, Tiger > content... this motor will after hitting the salt go into my Tiger, > B947136. > -- ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel at verizon.net From drmayf at mayfco.com Thu Aug 25 05:37:28 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:37:28 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car In-Reply-To: References: <4E555C21.1050807@mayfco.com> <1314233408.97726.YahooMailRC@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E5633F8.7070802@mayfco.com> Buck, I now have a lead on a pair of AFR 165 heads tha I can bolt onto a 260 block. They are gently used from one of the list members and the price is great. Basically bolt on and go. As soon as I get the heads I will make castings of the combustion chamber and have a set of pop up pistons made by Ross. But, who is the welding source anyway? I occasionally need welding done on heads, etc. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 8/25/2011 1:41 AM, Buck Trippel wrote: > Sandy & Larry, > > I've got a great source for doing the welding. > > Let me know if you want some help. > > bt > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sandy Ganz" > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:50 PM > To: ; > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car > >> Good Dr. >> >> I have a set of very ported aluminum Canfields with Ti valves, new >> isky tool >> room roller spring, Ti retainers, one of the ports needs welding >> (intake) due >> to weld that was not done right. Yours for a song if you want to >> try to fix. >> These might be big for your small Cube motor, but RPM can fix >> that. They have >> around 58cc chamber when last checked and made around 570hp >> on a 331 with 12:1 >> CR and a healthy roller (I may even have a spare roller >> and some shaft rockers >> that you can get working with a few parts) >> >> Sandy >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Larry Mayfield >> To: >> "tigers at autox.team.net" >> Sent: Wed, August 24, 2011 >> 1:16:33 PM >> Subject: [Tigers] Heads for the Sunbeam LSR Car >> >> Seeking a pair of >> used heads, either World Products Windsor Jr with 1.94 intake >> and 1.6 exhaust >> and 60 cc combusion chamber size. Complete heads. Or AFr 165 >> heads for the >> Ford, with 1.90 intake and 1.60 exhaust with 58 cc combustion >> chambers. Like >> wise complete. >> >> These are the only two I would like to have. I have surfed a >> LOT ans had found >> noting used. >> >> Any of you have such? >> >> mayf >> >> Oh, Tiger >> content... this motor will after hitting the salt go into my Tiger, >> B947136. >> -- ______________________________ >> drmayf >> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. >> 204.913 mph flying mile >> 210.779 mph exit speed >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz at pacbell.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel at verizon.net From mgman71 at comcast.net Fri Aug 26 06:30:35 2011 From: mgman71 at comcast.net (George Re) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Mounting Bracket... Message-ID: <872029436.708248.1314361835762.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hi. I am looking for a generator mounting bracket for a Tiger if you have one or know who might have one please let me know. Thanks advance George Re From maliburevue at yahoo.com Fri Aug 26 11:07:13 2011 From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tigers] Video Message-ID: <1314378433.12847.YahooMailClassic@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Notice the car with which he opens the video. http://classicmotorsports.net/project-cars/1967-Shelby-gt-350/ From sganz at pacbell.net Fri Aug 26 13:33:13 2011 From: sganz at pacbell.net (Sandy Ganz) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Tigers] Video In-Reply-To: <1314378433.12847.YahooMailClassic@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1314378433.12847.YahooMailClassic@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1314387193.21338.YahooMailRC@web82807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just had dinner with Tim and he loves his Tiger! The Shelby GT was a car he had to sell when he started the Magazine so it a great story for him to get one back. Sandy ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary To: Tigers Sent: Fri, August 26, 2011 10:07:13 AM Subject: [Tigers] Video Notice the car with which he opens the video. http://classicmotorsports.net/project-cars/1967-Shelby-gt-350/ _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz at pacbell.net From bobdixon at frii.com Sun Aug 28 15:39:04 2011 From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:39:04 -0600 Subject: [Tigers] My Tiger update Message-ID: <2CE430CDD0DC418CB0282259EA168D4E@BobsDell> Well, she's about 98% done. I just got the exhaust system put in yesterday and drove here around a little bit. No problems so far. The solid lifter, 335HP 289 sounds wicked. The original seats should be back from the upholstery shop next week as well as the tops of the door panels. I have all the side trim and the convertible top cover, I just need to put it all on. I also need to put the convertible top on. Just cosmetics left, mechanical is complete. Here are some pics of her in the driveway and some various pics of the restoration. https://users.frii.com/littlepearl/ If anyone wishes to purchase this little beast, I'm open to serious offers. I have over 40K in parts and I would say easily more than 2000 hours of my own time. I can send you specifics if you are interested. I was originally going to race this car so everything has been done with extreme care and durability in mind. Take care, Bob From bobdixon at frii.com Tue Aug 30 10:35:03 2011 From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:35:03 -0600 Subject: [Tigers] Plastic side moulding clips In-Reply-To: References: <1498406695.278803.1303486189510.JavaMail.root@sz0112a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <7e055f3401a914826791ec22851de39c@localhost> Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone had some tips on attaching the side moulding with those little plastic clips from Rick? I am assuming an 1/8" hole but that seems a little small. Do you put the clips on the body then slide the moulding on, or do you put the clips in the moulding and then tap the clips and moulding into place. From e.coiner at cox.net Tue Aug 30 15:29:56 2011 From: e.coiner at cox.net (e.coiner at cox.net) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:29:56 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Plastic side moulding clips In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110830172956.62Y27.746985.imail@fed1rmwml39> I used a caliper to measure the diameter of the clip right under the flat part. I drilled holes that were a couple of thousandths bigger. I do not remember the size drill I used. I install the clip and push the pin in. moulding will snap onto the clips, no need for sliding. On each end of the moulding, I used a modified screw to secure it tightly. I took a 4-40 button head cap screw. I filed two flats so that the head would slide down the moulding but not rotate. ---- Bob Dixon wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had some tips on attaching the side moulding > with those little plastic clips from Rick? I am assuming an 1/8" hole > but that seems a little small. Do you put the clips on the body then > slide the moulding on, or do you put the clips in the moulding and then > tap the clips and moulding into place. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner at cox.net From rfraser at bluefrog.com Tue Aug 30 15:30:53 2011 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com ( Ron Fraser) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:30:53 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Plastic side moulding clips In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0C4C1F44F55F4714ABDF69736E0DC82D@ronpc1> Bob The clip goes on the body 1st then push the center post of the clip in flush with the clip to set it to the body. The center post in the clip has to be out before you put the clip on the body. I'm not sure what the correct hole size should be but you should not have to force anything to much. If the hole needs to be a bit larger than what you have then make it so. The moulding will now snap over the clips, just line the moulding up with all the clips and push the moulding over each clip. The original moulding clips had some clips with studs and nuts to anchor the moulding so it would not slide. These you would have to make yourself since I don't believe they are available. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Dixon Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:35 PM To: Tigers Subject: [Tigers] Plastic side moulding clips I was wondering if anyone had some tips on attaching the side moulding with those little plastic clips from Rick? I am assuming an 1/8" hole but that seems a little small. Do you put the clips on the body then slide the moulding on, or do you put the clips in the moulding and then tap the clips and moulding into place. _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser at bluefrog.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3867 - Release Date: 08/30/11 06:34:00 From bobdixon at frii.com Tue Aug 30 15:46:10 2011 From: bobdixon at frii.com (Bob Dixon) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:46:10 -0600 Subject: [Tigers] Plastic side moulding clips In-Reply-To: <20110830172956.62Y27.746985.imail@fed1rmwml39> References: <20110830172956.62Y27.746985.imail@fed1rmwml39> Message-ID: Thanks for all the excellent tips and advice!! What a great group! From alittlemoreink at hotmail.com Wed Aug 31 09:17:18 2011 From: alittlemoreink at hotmail.com (John Crawley) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:17:18 +0000 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 94 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bob: I inserted the clips and then slid the moulding on. The reason I did it this way was that I put a drop of clear silicon in the hole before inserting the clip and I needed to wipe the excess off the paint. This prevents rust from starting at this spot and should be done any time you drill the painted body. Jc > From: tigers-request at autox.team.net > Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 94 > To: tigers at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:00:12 -0600 > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Plastic side moulding clips (Bob Dixon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:35:03 -0600 > From: Bob Dixon > To: Tigers > Subject: [Tigers] Plastic side moulding clips > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I was wondering if anyone had some tips on attaching the side moulding > with those little plastic clips from Rick? I am assuming an 1/8" hole > but that seems a little small. Do you put the clips on the body then > slide the moulding on, or do you put the clips in the moulding and then > tap the clips and moulding into place. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 94 > ************************************* From awtiger at cox.net Wed Aug 31 13:31:55 2011 From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:31:55 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Cam change Message-ID: <20110831153155.1VJUN.1576423.imail@eastrmwml34> Hey, guys: I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before, but I've got a question about changing the camshaft in my Tiger's engine. Can the cam be changed with the engine in the car? I realize that the front of the motor and the radiator, etc., would need to be removed, but is there generally enough room up inside the nose of the car to remove and refit a cam? Has anyone tried/done this??? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 From jliny5 at cox.net Tue Aug 2 20:37:05 2011 From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:37:05 -0000 Subject: [Tigers] Test Message Message-ID: <80E16172B070409E9899842EDB0CD8E8@JPC> Hi Just trying to check if I am connected. Could someone on the list please respond. Thx, Jim