[Tigers] FW: cheap ball joints
William Lau
mrlau at charter.net
Tue Jul 17 08:07:12 MDT 2007
They would have to be out of grease to rust, and this is a bit late, rust or
not because it will seize regardless of plating at that point. I would hope
that anyone could drill the shaft and install castellated nuts as it is
pretty simple. I would only worry about them if the metal was of an
inferior manufacture. I also would install castellated nuts on the uppers
or anywhere else that is critical. -- Bill --
-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces+mrlau=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces+mrlau=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Hall
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:03 PM
To: Smit, Theo
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] cheap ball joints
At 03:59 PM 7/16/2007, you wrote:
>Others will have more detailed history here, but from what I recall
>there was a replacement (lower?) balljoint on the market where the ball
>and shaft were copper plated for corrosion resistance and it was
>retained only by a nylock nut, not a castellated and cotter-pinned
>assembly. Both the copper plating and the nylock nut were causes for
>failure, but I don't have any direct experience or first hand stories
>related to these items.
>
>Theo
I believe Theo has the story a bit upside down as it were. The OEM
ball joints made by Engineered Products and possibly also by other
English manufacturers had the ball unit copper plated. Later, tin or
other similar silver-ish plating was used. These ball joints were
all supplied with castleated nuts and cotter pins. When Q-H started
making these replacements, they terminated the plating operations and
substituted Nylock nuts. Early on, these pieces had internal rust or
other internal related problems and several locked to the point where
they didn't turn in the ball socket. The norm was that they began to
turn in the taper. Cut to the chase, several of them unscrewed the
Nylock nuts dropping the lower A-arm to the ground. I have first
hand knowledge of this failure, and reports of several more.
To his credit, Rick (Sunbeam Specialties), when told of this mode of
failure, began drilling the shanks of the ball joints he sold and
supplied the castleated nuts and cotter pins. The problem of ball
joints unscrewing themselves disappeared. I recently heard that it
occurred again with an older Nylock installation.
Word to the wise: Don't drive around with Nylock nuts retaining your
lower ball joints. The uppers ball joints have never been reported
to experience this problem, so I suspect it's a manufacturing and or
shipping/storage, environment related cause.
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