[Tigers] Tiger Gas Mileage

[Sandy Ganz]

And if your not if California, you can get Mercedes SUV and Jeep's with Diesels. My brother lives in oregon and drove his family down in his Jeep Cherokee and it was nice, hardly could tell it was a Diesel. VW also has the bug I think too,  like the VW v10 twin turbo diesel maybe be 5L?? (320+hp/550tq) in the Toureg, but it is crazy priced and I think my have only been in CA for 1 year. Likely Audi derived. I drive a 7.3L Powerstroke in an Excursion and it is anchient compaired to the 2 generations that came after, which make way more power and have less cubes. The downside is they (Diesels) typically cost more, especially in trucks. I don't think you ever make back the milage saving $$ vs. Engine cost (over gasoline) but the Diesel is hard to beat for towing. It is also very relaxing to drive with the rumbling of the motor...

Check out some past Lemans and see how the diesels did, pretty amazing. Sadly here in the states we are only just getting some of the good ones unless you drive a truck...

Sandy

----- Original Message ----
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
To: William Lau <mrlau at charter.net>; tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:27:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Gas Mileage

Mercedes still make them.  About 80% merc sales in uk and italy are
diesel.  They are good too but not the power houses of the audis.
Audi offer and 4 and 4.2 TDI all aluminum v8 in the A8 and vw have a
toureg with I think a 6 litre turbo diesel.  These are very refined
engines.



On 12/21/07, William Lau <mrlau at charter.net> wrote:
> You will notice though that Mercedes quit making them.  I think they had
> enough too. -- Bill --
>
> and i'll add to that, that towing or off the start you have so much
> torque in a diesel that it far outstrips the petrol.  its not max
> power you want for towing but torque for the low end power.
>
> but i agree those old 70's merc diesels were awful.  in germany they
> were only really used for taxis.
>
> On Dec 21, 2007 5:34 PM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> > chalk and cheese.  those old diesels were TERRIBLE!
> > high end diesels have come a long long in the last 5 or 6 years.
> > i had a choice between the 3.0 diesel, the 4.2 v8 petrol or the 5.2 v10
> petrol.
> >
> > i drove them all about 1000 miles a peice and the diesel was smoother,
> > quieter and had more usable power than the 4.2.  it is also a much
> > lighter engine so the car handles much better (audis always have a bit
> > of a problem with the weight up at the front end).  the 5.2 puts a
> > tiger like smile on your face but its not really necessary long trips
> > and over here the fuel economy and difference in purchase price mean
> > its not viable.
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