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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The battery cables in our ’76 were so badly corroded on
the inside that the negative terminal end of the cable twisted off in my hand
while I was trying to connect the new battery. The cables looked good
from the outside but were gone on the inside. While I was replacing the
cables I also added a direct secondary ground from the firewall attachment
point to the upper starter mounting bolt so I would have as short a path as
possible. This cable is the same gauge as the battery to firewall cable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>’76 Midget<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Spridgets
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Hal Faulkner via Spridgets<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 22, 2017
4:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Spridgets<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Spridgets] turn the
key, and - click!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Years back, when I was living in a smallish college town I had a
similar problem with my 1962 Falcon. Changed starters, cleaned contacts,
connected the jumper cables directly to the starter solenoid and a nearby
ground. Still would only click. My mechanic told me to<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'> replace the battery cables</span></b> but I knew it
couldn't be that 'cuz of the way I had jumped it. Took the new starter
back and exchanged it. Still no joy. Decided that it might be reasonable
to listen to the guy who made his living fixing cars and was renowned for his
honesty and quality of advice. When my brother and I told Ray how we had
finally fixed the problem he looked at us and said, "Shoulda listened to
me the first time. I bet both you guys have master's degrees."
What can I say? He was right and we always followed his advice after that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Steven Michelsen via Spridgets <<a
href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net" target="_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Thanks to all for your suggestions. Here is where I
am at:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I confirmed (I hope) that the starter motor is not stuck,
by putting the car in 4th and pushing it backwards about 5 feet. I could
hear the engine turning over as I pushed it. I also turned the square
bolt at the end of the starter motor - it turned freely.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I cleaned the neg battery cable connection to the
firewall. The other three - the pos and neg battery terminals, and the
pos connection at the solenoid, were looked at when I replaced the
solenoid. All is good there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>As fas as I know, I have a "regular"
starter. It is not original - dated 1997.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Still nothing but that CLICK. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I will put the battery on a charger and try again tonight
or tomorrow. Any further input/ideas/theories are greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 01:31 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In addition to the other
good advice, I would start by charging the new battery first. You should charge
a new one to capacity prior to "flashing" it for the first time. All
that means is start with a completely charged battery before putting a heavy
load on it. Since you have already cranked it until it slowed down, it probably
did not have a full charge right off the shelf.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Also check to see if the
starter pinion is stuck in the ring gear. It may not have retracted after the
final cranking attempt. That would cause a clicking sound... Just put the car
in neutral and turn the engine by hand to see if it is stuck.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Kent</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Steven Michelsen via Spridgets <<a
href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net" target="_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It's been an awful long time since I've posted, and even longer since
my (formerly) reliable 1500 Midget has given me any trouble at all. But
now I have a small challenge...<br>
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The other day I tried to start it for the first time in many months, using a
brand new battery. First, it cranked and cranked, slowing down as it
tried to start. Next time - nothing. Just a solid CLICK. I
mistakenly took this to mean that I needed a new solenoid, which I bought and
installed. That wasn't the answer. I turn the key and get a solid
CLICK. The battery is still good - lights and such work fine.<br>
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My question is, what's the next step to diagnose this?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Steve<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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