<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>It doesn't. <br><br>Ron Soave</div><div><br>On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <<a href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Why does increasing the rocker ratio cause a need for more clearance?<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <<a href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div><font face="Arial">I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 
2008-9 crash.  I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5 
(red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of 
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<div><span>Where <a href="http://www.spridgetmania.com/part/C-AHT436/Roller-Tipped-15-Ratio-Rockers-Aluminum">higher 
ratio rockers</a> are to be used, the required valve clearance can then be 
assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you 
obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1.5 
gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for 
race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams 
generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio 
rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are used 
simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as 
0.016-in divided by 1.25 = 0.0128, then x 1.5 = 0.0192" - or 0.019" at the 
valve.</span></div>
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  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> 
  <a title="rrengineer.mike@att.net" href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net">Michael 
  MacLean</a> </div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="refisk@chartermi.net" href="mailto:refisk@chartermi.net">Rick Fisk</a> ; <a title="mdrowe@optonline.net" href="mailto:mdrowe@optonline.net">Michael Rowe</a> 
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  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="spridgets@autox.team.net" href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net">Spridgets</a> </div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 
  PM</div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] rocker 
  clearance</div>
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  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1446323015003_17729">How about when you have 1.5 rocker 
  arms?  Drove the Bugeye around yesterday.  Runs great, still blue 
  smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles since 
  rebuild.  I'm afraid the rings never seated properly.  Not sure of 
  the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of 
  it.<br></div>
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  <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, 
  Rick Fisk via Spridgets <<a href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> 
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    <div>The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are 
    assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just want to 
    set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my keyboard</div>
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    <div><br clear="none">On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets 
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    <div><font face="Arial">New 1275 engine.</font></div>
    <div><font face="Arial">Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only 
    = 0.029 in.</font></div>
    <div><font face="Arial">My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should 
    be."</font></div>
    <div><font face="Arial">Bentley says:</font></div>
    <div><font face="Arial">Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. 
    cold</font></div>
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            Running (competition work) = 0.015 
    in.</font></div>
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    timing        = 0.029 in.</font></div>
    <div><font face="Arial">Online sites agree on  = .012 in. 
    cold.</font></div>
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    <div><font face="Arial">So what is the 0.029 in. for?</font></div>
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    <div><font face="Arial">Michael Rowe</font></div></div>
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