From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 09:11:14 2026
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 15:11:14 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Allen screws
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1UNa+MZQn9C5dH91HV4MS=ARKCgxUA33DKV=Yi8CJ=SMw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List - this might interest some of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mim0Lsz2kQU
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 12:12:22 2026
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 18:12:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Mar 15 13:22:28 2026
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:22:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BD3152F4-7FB0-4FB0-96F6-03DFEDF7B408@chartermi.net>

Interesting video.  My stainless steel refridgertor must be enclosed in ferritic stainless because the door is covered with magnets.  When I was still working I frequently had to drill and tap holes in stainless steel.  Stainless just laughs at normal cutting oil and many dull and broken drill bits resulted.  Then I discovered something that works amazingly well - Dawn brand liquid dish detergent works beautifully as a cutting oil for stainless steel.

> On Mar 15, 2026, at 2:28?PM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
> ------------------------
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 14:41:07 2026
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:41:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANuE7YDcnjWPMq=xmNs8Tfgh+btVd5gz04vGOHe3Tt26yCSgbA@mail.gmail.com>

It is important to remember there are dozens of grades of stainless steel,
all with different combinations of allows and with different properties.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 1:31?PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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=================================
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Sun Mar 15 16:00:14 2026
From: miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 18:00:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CANuE7YDcnjWPMq=xmNs8Tfgh+btVd5gz04vGOHe3Tt26yCSgbA@mail.gmail.com>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Mar 15 16:19:41 2026
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 18:19:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <67D8505D-8049-4638-A7E8-55A8ACD6252B@aol.com>
References: <67D8505D-8049-4638-A7E8-55A8ACD6252B@aol.com>
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 13:17:53 2026
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 15:17:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <E80F9187-A049-450D-A206-6892F1016B5D@chartermi.net>
References: <67D8505D-8049-4638-A7E8-55A8ACD6252B@aol.com>
 <E80F9187-A049-450D-A206-6892F1016B5D@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0xskPi0rr=m34+7rhSwAfjO626sO7O2ORLHgnxJB1peLQ@mail.gmail.com>

The last message that I received was also from Weslake 1330. It was his
political musings about the UK and the USA. Now that spring is around the
corner maybe one of us old guys will do some wrenching or driving and let
the rest know about it.

Kent

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 6:27?PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It's been pretty quiet lately.
>
> On Mar 15, 2026, at 6:06?PM, Miniac7 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Non-related question for all:
>
> This is the first Spridgetlist message thread that I have received in over
> six (6) months.
>
> Have I been missing other threads due to some sort of glitch, or is this
> the first topic to be sent out to the group in that amount of time?
>
> Howard Collins
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 15, 2026, at 4:41?PM, John Innis via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> It is important to remember there are dozens of grades of stainless steel,
> all with different combinations of allows and with different properties.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 1:31?PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com
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>
>
> --
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> = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown  =
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-- 
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Mar 16 13:45:29 2026
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 15:45:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0xskPi0rr=m34+7rhSwAfjO626sO7O2ORLHgnxJB1peLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0xskPi0rr=m34+7rhSwAfjO626sO7O2ORLHgnxJB1peLQ@mail.gmail.com>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Mar 16 14:02:03 2026
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 16:02:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
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From williamtzoom at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 14:48:37 2026
From: williamtzoom at gmail.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:48:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <E80F9187-A049-450D-A206-6892F1016B5D@chartermi.net>
References: <67D8505D-8049-4638-A7E8-55A8ACD6252B@aol.com>
 <E80F9187-A049-450D-A206-6892F1016B5D@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAMDrE_q3wP+pZSzBVQ9V=fR2=MKeOjWJ0zvnrEGak_x7V4Rb6w@mail.gmail.com>

I'm still here. My old email's been broken for years but I'm fixin' to get
that taken care of...real soon.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 3:26?PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It's been pretty quiet lately.
>
> On Mar 15, 2026, at 6:06?PM, Miniac7 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Non-related question for all:
>
> This is the first Spridgetlist message thread that I have received in over
> six (6) months.
>
> Have I been missing other threads due to some sort of glitch, or is this
> the first topic to be sent out to the group in that amount of time?
>
> Howard Collins
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 15, 2026, at 4:41?PM, John Innis via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> It is important to remember there are dozens of grades of stainless steel,
> all with different combinations of allows and with different properties.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 1:31?PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets
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>>
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com
>>
>
>
> --
> =================================
> = Never offend people with style when you   =
> = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown  =
> =================================
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 16 15:25:32 2026
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 16:25:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CAMDrE_q3wP+pZSzBVQ9V=fR2=MKeOjWJ0zvnrEGak_x7V4Rb6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDrE_q3wP+pZSzBVQ9V=fR2=MKeOjWJ0zvnrEGak_x7V4Rb6w@mail.gmail.com>
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From williamtzoom at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 15:25:58 2026
From: williamtzoom at gmail.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 14:25:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMhoh1Xi6DB+RticHJD4A-30+a9OzWOCp6rdPHmAdkKfaUocpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMDrE_oEo=kqaXOF7MY7BcAfKSEODuz_JmsXseBFpiFcarb3JQ@mail.gmail.com>

As I recall, South Korea developed inexpensive Ferritic Stainless
technology in the late 80's/ early 90's for Revere Ware, but it rusted
badly.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 11:30?AM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Mar 16 15:26:45 2026
From: miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 17:26:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
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From williamtzoom at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 15:32:07 2026
From: williamtzoom at gmail.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 14:32:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <0D402A42-0D01-4185-92AA-AFB7A83002F2@aol.com>
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FWIW, I'm as witty as ever & I haven't aged a bit. I'm still a bit of a
BSer, but I'm working on it.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 2:26?PM Miniac7 <miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

> It?s good to hear from you fella?s.
>
> Howard
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2026, at 4:48?PM, Billy Zoom <williamtzoom at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> I'm still here. My old email's been broken for years but I'm fixin' to get
> that taken care of...real soon.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 3:26?PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> It's been pretty quiet lately.
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 6:06?PM, Miniac7 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Non-related question for all:
>>
>> This is the first Spridgetlist message thread that I have received in
>> over six (6) months.
>>
>> Have I been missing other threads due to some sort of glitch, or is this
>> the first topic to be sent out to the group in that amount of time?
>>
>> Howard Collins
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 4:41?PM, John Innis via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> It is important to remember there are dozens of grades of stainless
>> steel, all with different combinations of allows and with different
>> properties.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 1:31?PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>>
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets
>>> http://autox.team.net/archive
>>>
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> =================================
>> = Never offend people with style when you   =
>> = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown  =
>> =================================
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>
>> ------------------------
>>
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>>
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>> ------------------------
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Mar 16 15:46:08 2026
From: miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 17:46:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <CAMDrE_oEo=kqaXOF7MY7BcAfKSEODuz_JmsXseBFpiFcarb3JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDrE_oEo=kqaXOF7MY7BcAfKSEODuz_JmsXseBFpiFcarb3JQ@mail.gmail.com>
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Mar 16 21:51:29 2026
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 22:51:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 11:46:47 2026
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:46:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
In-Reply-To: <BD3152F4-7FB0-4FB0-96F6-03DFEDF7B408@chartermi.net>
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Boy, I wish I knew this Dawn trick when I was using a jigsaw and regular
drill bits and a hole saw to cut out my engine-turned firewall on my Nasty
Boy BJ7:
[image: ac48221b-3111-4586-8cab-fcab5531704e (2).webp]

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 3:33?PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Interesting video.  My stainless steel refridgertor must be enclosed in
> ferritic stainless because the door is covered with magnets.  When I was
> still working I frequently had to drill and tap holes in stainless steel.
> Stainless just laughs at normal cutting oil and many dull and broken drill
> bits resulted.  Then I discovered something that works amazingly well -
> Dawn brand liquid dish detergent works beautifully as a cutting oil for
> stainless steel.
>
> On Mar 15, 2026, at 2:28?PM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
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From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com  Tue Mar 17 16:07:48 2026
From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy))
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 22:07:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Still here ...
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Hey!Recovering but still here reading messages...Chuck?
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 16:36:47 2026
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 22:36:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel - magnetic or not
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Hi Billy, saw a photo of you in a book about the Nikon camera I bought last
year!

On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 at 20:52, Billy Zoom via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I'm still here. My old email's been broken for years but I'm fixin' to get
> that taken care of...real soon.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 3:26?PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> It's been pretty quiet lately.
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 6:06?PM, Miniac7 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Non-related question for all:
>>
>> This is the first Spridgetlist message thread that I have received in
>> over six (6) months.
>>
>> Have I been missing other threads due to some sort of glitch, or is this
>> the first topic to be sent out to the group in that amount of time?
>>
>> Howard Collins
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2026, at 4:41?PM, John Innis via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> It is important to remember there are dozens of grades of stainless
>> steel, all with different combinations of allows and with different
>> properties.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 1:31?PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list - for anyone interested, I know I was.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJmQdvnfPE&t=354s
>>> ------------------------
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Mar 17 17:40:34 2026
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 18:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Still here ...
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Recovering from what this time??

Lester


> On Mar 17, 2026, at 5:18?PM, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hey!
> Recovering but still here reading messages...
> Chuck 
> ------------------------
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From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com  Wed Mar 18 08:44:13 2026
From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy))
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 14:44:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Still here ...
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 Still healing fractured left femur.Although an accident last Saturday totalled our cherry 92 Saab C900 4dr and Mary Anne has a fractured L4 vertebrae......I was in the car but only bruised my knees on the lower dash bolster.....Chuck
    On Tuesday, March 17, 2026 at 07:40:58 PM EDT, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Recovering from what this time??
Lester


On Mar 17, 2026, at 5:18?PM, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:



?Hey!Recovering but still here reading messages...Chuck?------------------------

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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 04:33:10 2026
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:33:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1VHKb7==y5ycvV7UqxLM3dCMp=KmeMBc+MHfTb6dzvwHg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List,

I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't
being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem
to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.

The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
a disaster for the world.

NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO
is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs
some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country
and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the
USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth
paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former
members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not
whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but
could America spend less?

America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
what is close to being obvious.

What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
be doing.

It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely accuse
them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and are free
loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend enough
time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk you'll
discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or nothing
for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how important
that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road accident that
made everything connected to that site unpopular.

Regards

Daniel S
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 04:34:58 2026
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:34:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Still here ...
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 <A993F564-1DCB-443D-B12D-6D0EE108B474@comcast.net>
 <1710675537.245134.1773845053043@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1W5ejCMKS980EGUYjYpZrCbKQ_QBxsWenbZqFtS2g6GuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chuck,

Sorry to hear that.

Regards

Daniel

On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 at 16:16, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Still healing fractured left femur.
> Although an accident last Saturday totalled our cherry 92 Saab C900 4dr
> and Mary Anne has a fractured L4 vertebrae......
> I was in the car but only bruised my knees on the lower dash bolster.....
> Chuck
>
> On Tuesday, March 17, 2026 at 07:40:58 PM EDT, Lester <
> oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Recovering from what this time??
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2026, at 5:18?PM, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via
> Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hey!
> Recovering but still here reading messages...
> Chuck
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From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Mar 20 06:32:05 2026
From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 08:32:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
In-Reply-To: <CAMhoh1VHKb7==y5ycvV7UqxLM3dCMp=KmeMBc+MHfTb6dzvwHg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <75794EC5-F15B-43D3-B4AD-F1ECAC5D10C8@mac.com>

Daniel,

Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points, but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is insulting and bitching at NATO countries. 

I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the bottom of the barrel in my opinion. 

This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one. 

Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of an Englishman and an American.  

Larry

> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
> 
> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be a disaster for the world.
> 
> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but could America spend less?
> 
> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.  Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state what is close to being obvious.
> 
> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to be doing.
> 
> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Daniel S
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?

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at mac.com


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From pnase at me.com  Fri Mar 20 07:13:54 2026
From: pnase at me.com (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:13:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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Message-ID: <552B4287-42D9-43CD-A4BF-112AC61F22E2@me.com>

??
Phil Nase

> On Mar 20, 2026, at 8:35?AM, Larry Macy via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Daniel,
> 
> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points, but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is insulting and bitching at NATO countries. 
> 
> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the bottom of the barrel in my opinion. 
> 
> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one. 
> 
> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of an Englishman and an American.  
> 
> Larry
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>> 
>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be a disaster for the world.
>> 
>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but could America spend less?
>> 
>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.  Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state what is close to being obvious.
>> 
>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to be doing.
>> 
>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Daniel S
>> ------------------------
>> 
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 20 07:32:05 2026
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:32:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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What color should the Sprite emblem be on the rear boot?

Ron Soave

> On Mar 20, 2026, at 8:44?AM, Larry Macy via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Daniel,
> 
> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points, but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is insulting and bitching at NATO countries. 
> 
> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the bottom of the barrel in my opinion. 
> 
> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one. 
> 
> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of an Englishman and an American.  
> 
> Larry
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>> 
>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be a disaster for the world.
>> 
>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but could America spend less?
>> 
>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.  Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state what is close to being obvious.
>> 
>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to be doing.
>> 
>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Daniel S
>> ------------------------
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From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 14:07:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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Chrome but my Sprite doesn't have one to save weight.  I guess if there was
a really nice transfer or sticker I could use I might be tempted to have
one.

On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 13:32, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> What color should the Sprite emblem be on the rear boot?
>
> Ron Soave
>
> On Mar 20, 2026, at 8:44?AM, Larry Macy via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Daniel,
>
> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>
> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>
> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one.
>
> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of
> an Englishman and an American.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't
> being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem
> to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>
> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
> to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
> is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
> decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
> Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
> Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
> a disaster for the world.
>
> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO
> is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs
> some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country
> and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the
> USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth
> paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former
> members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not
> whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but
> could America spend less?
>
> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
> attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
> saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
> Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
> Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
> what is close to being obvious.
>
> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
> be doing.
>
> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniel S
> ------------------------
>
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>
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>
>
> ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he
> said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just
> give up.?
> ~Stephen Hawking
>
>
> ------------------------
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From dtwoerpel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 08:57:09 2026
From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (David Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:57:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history.  Our close
friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and Europe.
Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
1st day of Spring!!  Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the
tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
emptying the boot.
Regards,

DaveW

'59:{)
'59 MGA 1500
'Pay It Forward"

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38?AM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>
> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>
> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one.
>
> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of
> an Englishman and an American.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't
> being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem
> to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>
> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
> to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
> is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
> decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
> Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
> Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
> a disaster for the world.
>
> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO
> is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs
> some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country
> and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the
> USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth
> paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former
> members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not
> whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but
> could America spend less?
>
> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
> attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
> saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
> Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
> Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
> what is close to being obvious.
>
> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
> be doing.
>
> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniel S
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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>
>
> ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he
> said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just
> give up.?
> ~Stephen Hawking
>
>
> ------------------------
>
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From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (David Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:03:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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Respectfully,  gold with red.
Good save Grasshopper!  Good to here from you! ?
DaveW

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:18?AM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Chrome but my Sprite doesn't have one to save weight.  I guess if there
> was a really nice transfer or sticker I could use I might be tempted to
> have one.
>
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 13:32, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What color should the Sprite emblem be on the rear boot?
>>
>> Ron Soave
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 8:44?AM, Larry Macy via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Daniel,
>>
>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>
>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
>> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>
>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>> one.
>>
>> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion
>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>
>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
>> to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
>> is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
>> decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
>> Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
>> Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
>> a disaster for the world.
>>
>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>> needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other
>> country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer
>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided
>> was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but
>> former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed
>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do)
>> but could America spend less?
>>
>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
>> attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
>> saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
>> Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
>> Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
>> what is close to being obvious.
>>
>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
>> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
>> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
>> be doing.
>>
>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
>> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Daniel S
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
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>>
>> ?
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at mac.com
>>
>>
>> ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he
>> said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
>> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
>> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just
>> give up.?
>> ~Stephen Hawking
>>
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
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>>
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From: cmlove999 at gmail.com (Monty Love)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:05:48 -0500
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How about we keep our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjoy
the cars.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02?AM David Woerpel via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
> I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history.  Our close
> friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and Europe.
> Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
> 1st day of Spring!!  Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the
> tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
> emptying the boot.
> Regards,
>
> DaveW
>
> '59:{)
> '59 MGA 1500
> 'Pay It Forward"
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38?AM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>
>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
>> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>
>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>> one.
>>
>> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion
>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>
>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
>> to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
>> is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
>> decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
>> Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
>> Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
>> a disaster for the world.
>>
>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>> needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other
>> country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer
>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided
>> was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but
>> former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed
>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do)
>> but could America spend less?
>>
>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
>> attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
>> saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
>> Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
>> Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
>> what is close to being obvious.
>>
>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
>> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
>> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
>> be doing.
>>
>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
>> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Daniel S
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets
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>>
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at mac.com
>>
>>
>> ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he
>> said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
>> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
>> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just
>> give up.?
>> ~Stephen Hawking
>>
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:20:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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Because one day the politicians will come for our cars and force us to buy
something with a big battery in it?

On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 15:26, Monty Love via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> How about we keep our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjoy
> the cars.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02?AM David Woerpel via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
>> I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history.  Our close
>> friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and Europe.
>> Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
>> 1st day of Spring!!  Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the
>> tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
>> emptying the boot.
>> Regards,
>>
>> DaveW
>>
>> '59:{)
>> '59 MGA 1500
>> 'Pay It Forward"
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38?AM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
>>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>>
>>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
>>> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
>>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>>
>>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion
>>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>>
>>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and
>>> continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe
>>> that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted)
>>> over decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians
>>> aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to
>>> attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons
>>> would be a disaster for the world.
>>>
>>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>>> needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other
>>> country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer
>>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided
>>> was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but
>>> former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed
>>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do)
>>> but could America spend less?
>>>
>>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats
>>> and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators
>>> aren't saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr
>>> Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given
>>> to Iran.  Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and
>>> not state what is close to being obvious.
>>>
>>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>>> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
>>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
>>> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
>>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
>>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
>>> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
>>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
>>> be doing.
>>>
>>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>>> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
>>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
>>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
>>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
>>> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
>>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
>>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Daniel S
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>>
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets
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>>>
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>>> lmacy at mac.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he
>>> said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
>>> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
>>> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just
>>> give up.?
>>> ~Stephen Hawking
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>> ------------------------
>>
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>
> --
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> Monty Love
> 256-337-5581
> ------------------------
>
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From: williamtzoom at gmail.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 11:24:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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Totally non-functional....F*kit!

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 6:42?AM Ron Soave via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> What color should the Sprite emblem be on the rear boot?
>
> Ron Soave
>
> On Mar 20, 2026, at 8:44?AM, Larry Macy via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Daniel,
>
> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>
> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>
> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one.
>
> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of
> an Englishman and an American.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't
> being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem
> to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>
> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
> to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
> is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
> decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
> Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
> Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
> a disaster for the world.
>
> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO
> is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs
> some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country
> and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the
> USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth
> paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former
> members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not
> whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but
> could America spend less?
>
> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
> attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
> saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
> Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
> Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
> what is close to being obvious.
>
> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
> be doing.
>
> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniel S
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets
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>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com
>
>
> ?
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at mac.com
>
>
> ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he
> said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just
> give up.?
> ~Stephen Hawking
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 11:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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I'm already in California.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 9:26?AM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Because one day the politicians will come for our cars and force us to buy
> something with a big battery in it?
>
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 15:26, Monty Love via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> How about we keep our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjoy
>> the cars.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02?AM David Woerpel via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
>>> I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history.  Our
>>> close friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and
>>> Europe.  Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
>>> 1st day of Spring!!  Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the
>>> tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
>>> emptying the boot.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> DaveW
>>>
>>> '59:{)
>>> '59 MGA 1500
>>> 'Pay It Forward"
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38?AM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
>>>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>>>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>>>
>>>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>>>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
>>>> decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
>>>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion
>>>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>>>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>>>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>>>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>>>
>>>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and
>>>> continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe
>>>> that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted)
>>>> over decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians
>>>> aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to
>>>> attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons
>>>> would be a disaster for the world.
>>>>
>>>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>>>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>>>> needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other
>>>> country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer
>>>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided
>>>> was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but
>>>> former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed
>>>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do)
>>>> but could America spend less?
>>>>
>>>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats
>>>> and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators
>>>> aren't saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr
>>>> Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given
>>>> to Iran.  Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and
>>>> not state what is close to being obvious.
>>>>
>>>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>>>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>>>> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
>>>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
>>>> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
>>>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
>>>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
>>>> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
>>>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>>>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
>>>> be doing.
>>>>
>>>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>>>> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
>>>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
>>>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
>>>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
>>>> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
>>>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
>>>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
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Subject: [Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC
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    On Friday, March 20, 2026 at 09:39:11 AM EDT, Philip Nase via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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Phil Nase

On Mar 20, 2026, at 8:35?AM, Larry Macy via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:



? Daniel,
Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points, but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is insulting and bitching at NATO countries.?
I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those decades. Treating Russia as a ?friend? over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the bottom of the barrel in my opinion.?
This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have one.?
Spridgeteers, Please don?t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of an Englishman and an American. ?
Larry


On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33?AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi List,
I wanted to post some thoughts on?Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.? I believe that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia and China.? I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.? So if America decides to attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.? Iran with nuclear weapons would be a disaster for the world.
NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.? NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs some backup.? Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it has had the most back.? Europe provided the buffer for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.? Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members are a threat.? The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but could America spend less?
America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't saying so.? America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.? Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state what is close to being obvious.
What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.? It is India, China and other eastern countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European countries.? It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.? Well Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.? What about the European countries in NATO?? Well they are still very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to be doing.
It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely accuse them.? And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.? However, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or nothing for you in the future.? Google RAF Croughton and see not only how important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
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