[Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 181, Issue 2

Mon Jun 22 11:43:04 MDT 2026

*When we’d go off topic in the past, it was Frank Zappa, cats, Elizabeth
the Witch, nothing divisive. *

*Ron Soave*

Damn, I miss those days

Montana Bob

On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 10:51 AM Ron Soave via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> When we’d go off topic in the past, it was Frank Zappa, cats, Elizabeth
> the Witch, nothing divisive.
>
> Ron Soave
>
> On Jun 22, 2026, at 12:35 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Delete key works fine.  But this kind of nonsense does not belong here.
>
> On Jun 21, 2026, at 5:55 PM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Delete key not working?
>
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, it's supposed to be.  This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.
>>
>> Jim Ryan
>>
>> ©¿©¬
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16 PM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>>> Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> 1958 Sprite Iris Blue
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>   1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic
>>>       immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100
>>> From: Weslake1330 <weslake1330 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,
>>>     Islamic immigration and healthcare
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>>> Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but
>>> never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them
>>> with
>>> me.  Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail
>>> already.  Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any
>>> opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone
>>> understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.
>>> Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive
>>> will
>>> confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the
>>> highway
>>> and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.
>>>
>>> Firstly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight
>>> against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum
>>> on
>>> Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.  The summary is
>>> that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.
>>> The
>>> other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks
>>> to
>>> completely invade it there is choice other countries have to make in
>>> whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you
>>> have
>>> to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and
>>> then
>>> goes onto rebuild the USSR.  Maybe that sounds like a problem for the
>>> Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.  But if the dominos carry
>>> on falling then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.
>>>
>>> NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisation (the
>>> French call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).
>>> It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to
>>> defend
>>> each other against a big bully.  It?s not a European idea or club and
>>> Canada is a member.  Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO
>>> isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.
>>> Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying enough.
>>> However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but
>>> argues
>>> others should pay more.  Why is that?  Well, you might have to do your
>>> own
>>> research on that.
>>>
>>> Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.  The EU is not the same
>>> thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.  Strangely enough the
>>> EU
>>> has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all
>>> the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.  The
>>> republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.
>>> The
>>> United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but
>>> is
>>> not in the EU (it left some years ago).
>>>
>>> Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?  Well, I don?t
>>> think so.  I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the
>>> Hindus
>>> and Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also have to understand
>>> there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if
>>> this
>>> is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like
>>> to
>>> think of it.  Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were
>>> great people and not extremists.
>>>
>>> I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because
>>> they
>>> rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for
>>> their
>>> own protection.  In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 and
>>> existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a
>>> lot
>>> more on defence than it does now.  However, it?s not quite as
>>> encompassing
>>> as it used to be.  For example, when I was a child, medical prescriptions
>>> were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay.  Similarly,
>>> all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is still
>>> subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very
>>> expensive.  I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare.
>>> A
>>> question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and
>>> defense
>>> generally would it be enough for free healthcare?
>>>
>>> I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their
>>> understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter
>>> than
>>> everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge
>>> generally!  Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of
>>> any
>>> political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.  I
>>> have enlisted military service but not combat experience.  Recently I
>>> even
>>> applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe
>>> when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for
>>> my
>>> Christian/Fore names. . . .
>>>
>>> I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he
>>> can
>>> be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better
>>> take a closer look at the American Indian?.  However, it seems to be bunk
>>> and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.  So, how
>>> about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are
>>> first
>>> will be last, and many who are last will be first.
>>>
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