[Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 181, Issue 2

Sun Jun 21 15:32:15 MDT 2026

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On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well, it's supposed to be.  This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.
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> Jim Ryan
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> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16 PM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.
>>
>> Bill
>> 1958 Sprite Iris Blue
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>   1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic
>>       immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)
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>> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100
>> From: Weslake1330 <weslake1330 at gmail.com>
>> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,
>>     Islamic immigration and healthcare
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>> Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but
>> never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them
>> with
>> me.  Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail
>> already.  Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any
>> opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone
>> understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.
>> Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will
>> confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highway
>> and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.
>>
>> Firstly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight
>> against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum
>> on
>> Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.  The summary is
>> that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.  The
>> other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks to
>> completely invade it there is choice other countries have to make in
>> whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you have
>> to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and then
>> goes onto rebuild the USSR.  Maybe that sounds like a problem for the
>> Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.  But if the dominos carry
>> on falling then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.
>>
>> NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisation (the
>> French call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).
>> It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defend
>> each other against a big bully.  It?s not a European idea or club and
>> Canada is a member.  Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO
>> isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.
>> Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying enough.
>> However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but
>> argues
>> others should pay more.  Why is that?  Well, you might have to do your own
>> research on that.
>>
>> Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.  The EU is not the same
>> thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.  Strangely enough the EU
>> has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all
>> the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.  The
>> republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.  The
>> United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but is
>> not in the EU (it left some years ago).
>>
>> Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?  Well, I don?t
>> think so.  I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the
>> Hindus
>> and Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also have to understand
>> there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this
>> is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like
>> to
>> think of it.  Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were
>> great people and not extremists.
>>
>> I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because
>> they
>> rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for their
>> own protection.  In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 and
>> existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lot
>> more on defence than it does now.  However, it?s not quite as encompassing
>> as it used to be.  For example, when I was a child, medical prescriptions
>> were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay.  Similarly,
>> all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is still
>> subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very
>> expensive.  I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare.  A
>> question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and
>> defense
>> generally would it be enough for free healthcare?
>>
>> I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their
>> understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter than
>> everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge
>> generally!  Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of
>> any
>> political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.  I
>> have enlisted military service but not combat experience.  Recently I even
>> applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe
>> when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for
>> my
>> Christian/Fore names. . . .
>>
>> I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he
>> can
>> be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better
>> take a closer look at the American Indian?.  However, it seems to be bunk
>> and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.  So, how
>> about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are
>> first
>> will be last, and many who are last will be first.
>>
>> Daniel
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