From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Thu May 4 03:14:59 2023 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 02:14:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Rod Knock Update Message-ID: Took compression readings of the 1275 engine in my Bugeye as the start of the rod knock diagnosis. Not good. No 1 was 110 psi, No 2 - 90 psi, No 3 - 80 psi and No 4 was 110 psi. Which means none of them are up to snuff. Also found the spark plug wire for number 3 cylinder had fallen out if the distributor. I plugged it back in and started the engine. It idled smoother, but under acceleration the knock was still there and definitely coming from the block. All this with only 3 - 4 thousand miles since the swap from 948 to 1275. Next will be the oil in the cylinders and retake the compression test to see if the low compression is due to the valves. Might as well figure a head rebuild too. $$$$$$$$$$$$ Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 4 08:02:20 2023 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 14:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Rod Knock Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420582090.4038123.1683208940265@mail.yahoo.com> Hey Mike,Sounds like several things are going on. A leak down will pinpoint valves or rings or head gasket. The rod knock will only go away with new rod bearings, assuming the gods smoked and?the crank isn?t in need of a polish or turning. Wish I were closer -? Ron Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 4, 2023, 3:34 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: Took compression readings of the 1275 engine in my Bugeye as the start of the rod knock diagnosis.? Not good.? No 1 was 110 psi, No 2? -? 90 psi, No 3 - 80 psi and No 4 was 110 psi.? Which means none of them are up to snuff.? Also found the spark plug wire for number 3 cylinder had fallen out if the distributor.? I plugged it back in and started the engine.? It idled smoother, but under acceleration the knock was still there and definitely coming from the block.? All this with only 3 - 4 thousand miles since the swap from 948 to 1275.? Next will be the oil in the cylinders and retake the compression test to see if the low compression is due to the valves.? Might as well figure a head rebuild too.? $$$$$$$$$$$$Mike MacLean------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets? http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grday at btinternet.com Thu May 4 08:23:41 2023 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 15:23:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Rod Knock Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a19e19c.17969.187e725b5ed.Webtop.98@btinternet.com> Michael, I'll never forget when in much younger days I was allowed to re-build a 1275 Mini engine for my Rolls Royce apprenticed friend to power one of the Mini pick-ups he used for his business. The engine had been for a re-bore, crank grind, balance etc and I had done a bit of gas flow work on the head. Not a super hot racer but a more efficient mini delivery truck. It seemed to re-build fine but when it came to firing it up, it ran, but the oil pressure would not rise. My friend cursed me up hill and down dale saying amongst other things, if you want a job doing, do it yourself. I felt awful and didn't see him for a couple of days but, when I did, I raised the engine problem to see what I had done wrong. He couldn't get oil pressure up either (yeah!) and when stripped down and checked over yet again, it was found each of the bearing surfaces on the crank was tapered! Even now, now that I've slept a few times since then, I still cannot work out how the grinding on the crank could have been done like that. The firm that did it had one of the best reputations in that part of Northern England in those days and should have realised if their machinery wasn't correctly set. My friend forgave me and let me play with more of his motors so I knew I was truly forgiven, but I like to think that made me a slightly better (but pedantic) spanner man. When you strip your engine down again remember - you did it right - check the work others did. Others who perhaps don't have the love of your engine that you do! Keep the faith! Guy R Day ------ Original Message ------ From: "Michael MacLean via Spridgets" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, 4 May, 23 At 10:14 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Rod Knock Update Took compression readings of the 1275 engine in my Bugeye as the start of the rod knock diagnosis. Not good. No 1 was 110 psi, No 2 - 90 psi, No 3 - 80 psi and No 4 was 110 psi. Which means none of them are up to snuff. Also found the spark plug wire for number 3 cylinder had fallen out if the distributor. I plugged it back in and started the engine. It idled smoother, but under acceleration the knock was still there and definitely coming from the block. All this with only 3 - 4 thousand miles since the swap from 948 to 1275. Next will be the oil in the cylinders and retake the compression test to see if the low compression is due to the valves. Might as well figure a head rebuild too. $$$$$$$$$$$$ Mike MacLean ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Thu May 4 15:53:48 2023 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 14:53:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 core needed Message-ID: Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 miles) have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were going to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust? Looking to buy a 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but whole engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. Mike MacLean San Bernardino (909) 615-8093 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpaschke at bak.rr.com Thu May 4 18:52:55 2023 From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 17:52:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 core needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, I've got a short block that keeps getting in my way. It is yours if you want to drive up here and can't find one closer. Jon On 5/4/2023 2:53 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 miles) > have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were going > to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust?? Looking to buy a > 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but whole > engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy > engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. > Mike MacLean > San Bernardino > (909) 615-8093 > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jpaschke at bak.rr.com From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Sat May 6 08:19:25 2023 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (Dave and Terri Woerpel) Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 09:19:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] CONGRATULATIONS! Message-ID: Well done Mark! Very well deserved. The unbelievable number of automotive addicts you have reached and made possible countless friendships and contacts is beyond comprehension. All the time, work, expenditures have not gone unnoticed. Does this mean we'll see you at Road America in July?? 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Well, things changed where it was stored and when I went in to have some work done on my Bugeye I walked around looking for this project and it was gone. I don't want to get into the details of the circumstances but simply state that I have no reason to believe anything nefarious occured, but that due to the changes in personnel it simply was lost. The owner, my friend, was going to give it to me anyway, so had no interest in it and simply shrugged it off, but I still feel weird as I told him to bring it there. Anyway, those details are not really relevant for my inquiry to the list as I thought, as a long shot, I would put the description out there to see if anybody knows of an acquisition of a project Bugeye. I want to be clear, I DO NOT think whoever has it did anything wrong, I am just really curious as to where it ended up. So, here is what it was: 195x Bugeye No doors, no windshield, crushed in rear deck, (supposedly)rebuilt 1275 and gearbox. Old, probably original white paint. usual rust. No drivable, but did roll. After cursory inspection, the engine did not turn over by hand No idea on the VIN. Would have been acquired from the New England area. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Tue May 9 07:24:00 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] GMan Spridget Weekend References: <1342757296.186799.1683638641034.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1342757296.186799.1683638641034@mail.yahoo.com> Great Weekend at Gingerman for Sprites and Midget Racers, Driver School maintained it's VSCDA reputation as one of the best, especially for Graduating Spridget Racers Mike Atkins borrowing Jeff Freer's Sprite, Dan Rudd using the same car that his son Dominic drove at last year's Driver School along with Charlie Hall's Daughter Jesica driving Dad's car.? This was Mike Atkins first experience of being on track and I was proud to be his instructor and see the great progress that he made through the weekend and was a model focused safe student.? Dan Rudd has had Go Kart experience with his Son Dominick along with Jim Russel School experience.? They both have Square Body Spridgets that they hope to be enjoying together.? Charlie has wanted Jessica to attend Driver School for sometime and glad to see it happened this year.? Jessica express frustration of not being able to apply what she had hoped.? Roger Heil being the excellent Driving Instructor that he has been over the past 15 plus years knew exactly what to say and she sucessfully jumped back on that horse and gained a new awareness that she enjoyed. The weekend was warm with Friday Driver School Sunny and Clear.? Saturday was a mixed bag with some rain and slippery condition followed by rain again in the morning on Sunday followed by glorious sunshine in the afternoon including the Spridget Race.? We had an excpetional 17 Spridgets all with Driver School and Racing.? ?Dave Kessinger and Mark Maehling from Pittsburgh, Tom Cole and Bob Kansas returning from Ohio.? Rick Michalek from Iowa.? It was great on and off the track with lots of support particularly for students with the unselfishness of Sprite Midget Race Series Members. There are some great shots of the weekend through VSCDA Facebook Site and some for sale.? I think we had 3 professional photographers there.? I attached some shots that were once I was interested in. Next Stop is Blackhawk Farms June 16-18.? I will not be attending this year and I am looking for someone to assist with Spridget Paddock and Saturday Sunday Brat Lunch at BHF.? Tom Wilcox has generously took on this role in the past, but now is the Event Co-Chair of this event and needs to focus on running this great event. Our end of season awards will be at Grattan again this year August 11-13.? I am interested in suggestions for awards in the future,? we had navy blue baseball hats with SMRS logo on front and top 3 positions on back.? I am considering doing something similar and add the year to the back as well. Enjoy a Spridgetly Life of Excitment!Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: GMan23 T3 Cole.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1165265 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Gman 23 T3 tom Mark.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 462752 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This was Mike Atkins first experience of being on track and I was proud to be his instructor and see the great progress that he made through the weekend and was a model focused safe student.? Dan Rudd has had Go Kart experience with his Son Dominick along with Jim Russel School experience.? They both have Square Body Spridgets that they hope to be enjoying together.? Charlie has wanted Jessica to attend Driver School for sometime and glad to see it happened this year.? Jessica express frustration of not being able to apply what she had hoped.? Roger Heil being the excellent Driving Instructor that he has been over the past 15 plus years knew exactly what to say and she sucessfully jumped back on that horse and gained a new awareness that she enjoyed. The weekend was warm with Friday Driver School Sunny and Clear.? Saturday was a mixed bag with some rain and slippery condition followed by rain again in the morning on Sunday followed by glorious sunshine in the afternoon including the Spridget Race.? We had an excpetional 17 Spridgets all with Driver School and Racing.? ?Dave Kessinger and Mark Maehling from Pittsburgh, Tom Cole and Bob Kansas returning from Ohio.? Rick Michalek from Iowa.? It was great on and off the track with lots of support particularly for students with the unselfishness of Sprite Midget Race Series Members. There are some great shots of the weekend through VSCDA Facebook Site and some for sale.? I think we had 3 professional photographers there.? I attached some shots that were once I was interested in. Next Stop is Blackhawk Farms June 16-18.? I will not be attending this year and I am looking for someone to assist with Spridget Paddock and Saturday Sunday Brat Lunch at BHF.? Tom Wilcox has generously took on this role in the past, but now is the Event Co-Chair of this event and needs to focus on running this great event. Our end of season awards will be at Grattan again this year August 11-13.? I am interested in suggestions for awards in the future,? we had navy blue baseball hats with SMRS logo on front and top 3 positions on back.? I am considering doing something similar and add the year to the back as well. Enjoy a Spridgetly Life of Excitment!Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: GMan23 T3 Cole.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1165265 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Gman 23 T3 tom Mark.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 462752 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: GMan23 T2 Gp2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 751837 bytes Desc: not available URL: From charlie at charles-hall.com Tue May 9 07:51:20 2023 From: charlie at charles-hall.com (Charles Hall III) Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 13:51:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] GMan Spridget Weekend In-Reply-To: <1342757296.186799.1683638641034@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1342757296.186799.1683638641034.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1342757296.186799.1683638641034@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you Stan for all you do as our Group 2 leader Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: stanbmason at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 9:24:00 AM To: allmedsys at bwig.net ; andrew.more.fsae at gmail.com ; attlastt at frontier.net ; bmwwxman at gmail.com ; buckleyproperties at gmail.com ; bugeyedave at aol.com ; buks62500 at yahoo.com ; cana.comer at gmail.com ; ccstickleback at yahoo.com ; Charles Hall III ; chia219 at comcast.net ; christopher.beukema at gmail.com ; cjracr at hotmail.com ; clancy at sunflower.com ; colin at colinsclassicauto.com ; cseifert at tombrowninc.com ; d.walters at lackstrim.com ; dbkessinger at comcast.net ; dbrown07 at aol.com ; dbruce at taborbruce.com ; deikis at gmail.com ; derekchima at hotmail.com ; devildogracing9 at gmail.com ; dick at mgcarclub.com ; dlee1967 at sbcglobal.net ; dsweet3193 at aol.com ; dynamic881961 at yahoo.com ; edwardhinsa at gmail.com ; edwforrest at gmail.com ; ellie at stagecraftplayers.com ; ezanner at gmail.com ; fishnet at essex1.com ; gary.perser at gmail.com ; happykozfam at comcast.net ; hcgracing at aol.com ; jbtruck at dwave.net ; jdonato at donatoandsonsmotors.com ; jeff.bakker at yahoo.com ; jeff at mozer.com ; k_hund59 at yahoo.com ; kekjacobsen at yahoo.com ; kered_2004 at yahoo.com ; kirkkos at yahoo.com ; larsmg at aol.com ; maxspeedwell773 at gmail.com ; mccormackr at hss.edu ; mg72racer at juno.com ; mgvadick at aol.com ; mmaehling at comcast.net ; mowogbill at yahoo.com ; nadadawgracing at yahoo.com ; pauljharris914 at yahoo.com ; ptgbhtl at aol.com ; racingred69midget at rogers.com ; refisk at chartermi.net ; rfheil at aol.com ; rickdmichalek at gmail.com ; rob.futcher at yahoo.com ; ron.bartell at comcast.net ; saeppli at aol.com ; salisje at comcast.net ; sarl45 at hotmail.com ; scthsc47 at gmail.com ; skip.meyer at ymail.com ; slugthemtrhd at suddenlink.net ; soavero at yahoo.com ; spridget72 at yahoo.com ; spridget at aol.com ; spridgetech at ameritech.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; steve.bisson at yahoo.com ; steve at onecoleman.com ; steve at skunkriverresto.com ; stevebest3131 at gmail.com ; stevewright9928 at gmail.com ; stine.jason at gmail.com ; swindrace at aol.com ; swope66 at aol.com ; ta.wilcox57 at gmail.com ; tcspeedwell at gmail.com ; ted at hoyes.com ; terry at toyshop-resto.com ; thadevans at windstream.net ; thershey at frontiernet.net ; tlcnam at aol.com ; tmoran at moranconstruction.com ; tom.daly at westsidevw.com ; viggen at bellsouth.net ; w1979mgb at comcast.net ; walt at freckmannart.com ; wc at spridget.com ; wrtr at aol.com ; wsthompson at thicko.com Subject: GMan Spridget Weekend Great Weekend at Gingerman for Sprites and Midget Racers, Driver School maintained it's VSCDA reputation as one of the best, especially for Graduating Spridget Racers Mike Atkins borrowing Jeff Freer's Sprite, Dan Rudd using the same car that his son Dominic drove at last year's Driver School along with Charlie Hall's Daughter Jesica driving Dad's car. This was Mike Atkins first experience of being on track and I was proud to be his instructor and see the great progress that he made through the weekend and was a model focused safe student. Dan Rudd has had Go Kart experience with his Son Dominick along with Jim Russel School experience. They both have Square Body Spridgets that they hope to be enjoying together. Charlie has wanted Jessica to attend Driver School for sometime and glad to see it happened this year. Jessica express frustration of not being able to apply what she had hoped. Roger Heil being the excellent Driving Instructor that he has been over the past 15 plus years knew exactly what to say and she sucessfully jumped back on that horse and gained a new awareness that she enjoyed. The weekend was warm with Friday Driver School Sunny and Clear. Saturday was a mixed bag with some rain and slippery condition followed by rain again in the morning on Sunday followed by glorious sunshine in the afternoon including the Spridget Race. We had an excpetional 17 Spridgets all with Driver School and Racing. Dave Kessinger and Mark Maehling from Pittsburgh, Tom Cole and Bob Kansas returning from Ohio. Rick Michalek from Iowa. It was great on and off the track with lots of support particularly for students with the unselfishness of Sprite Midget Race Series Members. There are some great shots of the weekend through VSCDA Facebook Site and some for sale. I think we had 3 professional photographers there. I attached some shots that were once I was interested in. Next Stop is Blackhawk Farms June 16-18. I will not be attending this year and I am looking for someone to assist with Spridget Paddock and Saturday Sunday Brat Lunch at BHF. Tom Wilcox has generously took on this role in the past, but now is the Event Co-Chair of this event and needs to focus on running this great event. Our end of season awards will be at Grattan again this year August 11-13. I am interested in suggestions for awards in the future, we had navy blue baseball hats with SMRS logo on front and top 3 positions on back. I am considering doing something similar and add the year to the back as well. Enjoy a Spridgetly Life of Excitment! Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deikis at gmail.com Thu May 11 14:25:33 2023 From: deikis at gmail.com (John Deikis) Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 21:25:33 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] GMan Spridget Weekend In-Reply-To: References: <1342757296.186799.1683638641034.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1342757296.186799.1683638641034@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What?! Did I miss another race??? On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 8:07 PM Don Kelly wrote: > Thank you Stan for all you efforts in making the SMRS the best series in > vintage racing! > Don Kelly > > On Tue, May 9, 2023, 9:24 AM wrote: > >> Great Weekend at Gingerman for Sprites and Midget Racers, >> >> Driver School maintained it's VSCDA reputation as one of the best, >> especially for Graduating Spridget Racers Mike Atkins borrowing Jeff >> Freer's Sprite, Dan Rudd using the same car that his son Dominic drove at >> last year's Driver School along with Charlie Hall's Daughter Jesica driving >> Dad's car. This was Mike Atkins first experience of being on track and I >> was proud to be his instructor and see the great progress that he made >> through the weekend and was a model focused safe student. Dan Rudd has had >> Go Kart experience with his Son Dominick along with Jim Russel School >> experience. They both have Square Body Spridgets that they hope to be >> enjoying together. Charlie has wanted Jessica to attend Driver School for >> sometime and glad to see it happened this year. Jessica express >> frustration of not being able to apply what she had hoped. Roger Heil >> being the excellent Driving Instructor that he has been over the past 15 >> plus years knew exactly what to say and she sucessfully jumped back on that >> horse and gained a new awareness that she enjoyed. The weekend was warm >> with Friday Driver School Sunny and Clear. Saturday was a mixed bag with >> some rain and slippery condition followed by rain again in the morning on >> Sunday followed by glorious sunshine in the afternoon including the >> Spridget Race. We had an excpetional 17 Spridgets all with Driver School >> and Racing. Dave Kessinger and Mark Maehling from Pittsburgh, Tom Cole >> and Bob Kansas returning from Ohio. Rick Michalek from Iowa. It was great >> on and off the track with lots of support particularly for students with >> the unselfishness of Sprite Midget Race Series Members. >> >> There are some great shots of the weekend through VSCDA Facebook Site and >> some for sale. I think we had 3 professional photographers there. I >> attached some shots that were once I was interested in. >> >> Next Stop is Blackhawk Farms June 16-18. I will not be attending this >> year and I am looking for someone to assist with Spridget Paddock and >> Saturday Sunday Brat Lunch at BHF. Tom Wilcox has generously took on this >> role in the past, but now is the Event Co-Chair of this event and needs to >> focus on running this great event. >> >> Our end of season awards will be at Grattan again this year August >> 11-13. I am interested in suggestions for awards in the future, we had >> navy blue baseball hats with SMRS logo on front and top 3 positions on >> back. 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On Sat, 13 May 2023 at 11:39, Kent McLean via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > 230 cars in a "barn find". > https://www.hemmings.com/stories/the-palmen-barnfind-collection/ > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslake1330 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Sat May 13 19:47:47 2023 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy)) Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 01:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Kellison fiberglass bonnet? References: <1004921399.1915267.1684028867260.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1004921399.1915267.1684028867260@mail.yahoo.com> Anyone have a roundabout value on what one of these are worth?ChuckHome from Carlisle! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Sat May 13 20:09:03 2023 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy)) Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 02:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Import Carlisle References: <1849716988.1909181.1684030143654.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1849716988.1909181.1684030143654@mail.yahoo.com> anyone?? Well where was ...anyone?Saw one very very nice RWA blue wire wheel Midget....ONE!? ?Noticed a white Bugeye but it was at a distance , no clue as to who owned it.We were lazy & loud!? Cruised the show field in our 1960 bright orange Saab race car.? If you were there if you did not see us?? ?You HEARD us!!Lots of Spridget bits and pieces in the swap meet.? Did not see anything that I needed.That was a bit sad.? ?I had hopes of finding something interesting or odd...? Came home without any purchases.? ?That never happens!? ?Home safe & sound!!Chuck & Mary Anne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From refisk at chartermi.net Sun May 14 07:45:41 2023 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 09:45:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kellison fiberglass bonnet? In-Reply-To: <1004921399.1915267.1684028867260@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1004921399.1915267.1684028867260@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I bought this roundabout bonnet last year for $150. > On May 13, 2023, at 10:39 PM, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Anyone have a roundabout value on what one of these are worth? > Chuck > Home from Carlisle! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Daniel On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 15:09, Rick Fisk via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > I bought this roundabout bonnet last year for $150. > > [image: image0.jpeg] > > On May 13, 2023, at 10:39 PM, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via > Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Anyone have a roundabout value on what one of these are worth? > Chuck > Home from Carlisle! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslake1330 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 5/4/2023 2:53 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 miles) > have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were going > to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust?? Looking to buy a > 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but whole > engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy > engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. > Mike MacLean > San Bernardino > (909) 615-8093 > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Mon May 15 13:38:41 2023 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 12:38:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 core needed In-Reply-To: <84032827-07d2-c07c-30d0-2725acbdae8f@cox.net> References: <84032827-07d2-c07c-30d0-2725acbdae8f@cox.net> Message-ID: David, First of all, where are you located? Second, I have no room for another Brit car, small or otherwise. I have a two car garage that houses the Bugeye, a Harley Davidson and a BN2 mid restoration. There is an MGB GT and a Honda in the driveway. There just isn't room for it. My homeowners association would put a lean on my house if I parked it in the driveway. Lucky for me a friend has offered a tired 1275 minus the head (I have two heads rebuilt and ready to install). The only logistical problem is I am in Southern California and he is in the Bakersfield area (Tehachapi) which is a 4 -5 hour ride one way. I just got out of the hospital for pneumonia and sepsis. Not quite 100% yet. I really am not ready for a road trip just yet. If I could get someone to go with me and share the driving I would go this week. Thanks much for the offer, but I can't even retrieve a free motor just yet. Mike MacLean On Mon, May 15, 2023, 9:24 AM David Ambrose via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have a '62 Sprite with a 1275 that I'm looking to sell for a few > hundred. Not sure you want that many extra parts though. > > On 5/4/2023 2:53 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > > Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 miles) > > have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were going > > to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust? Looking to buy a > > 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but whole > > engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy > > engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. > > Mike MacLean > > San Bernardino > > (909) 615-8093 > > > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at dinospider.com Mon May 15 14:51:35 2023 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 13:51:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 core needed In-Reply-To: References: <84032827-07d2-c07c-30d0-2725acbdae8f@cox.net> Message-ID: <92da16a0-5ab9-e855-9cc9-cbd1fecbe1c0@dinospider.com> ? I am in no need of another car either...but perhaps we could do some creative financing for that '62 and take it apart here at my place in Santa Barbara.??? I would not mind a good rear axle assembly and some doohickeys here and there from the car to help with my project.? Its not a Spridget but it is now 1098cc Spridget powered.?? Only gotcha is my wife will get upset if it sits in the yard a year or 2 :) so we would have to take it apart fairly quickly, like before the next rain season. ?Bonus points if the rear is a original wire wheel rear and not a rear with wire adapters. ?? Mike On 5/15/2023 12:38 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > David, > ? ? ? First of all, where are you located? Second, I have no room for > another Brit car, small or otherwise. I have a two car garage that > houses the Bugeye, a Harley Davidson and a BN2 mid restoration.? There > is an MGB GT and a Honda in the driveway.? There just isn't room for > it. My homeowners association would put a lean on my house if I parked > it in the driveway.? Lucky for me a friend has offered a tired 1275 > minus the head (I have two heads rebuilt and ready to install).? The > only logistical problem is I am in Southern California and he is in > the Bakersfield area (Tehachapi) which is a 4 -5 hour ride one way.? I > just got out of the hospital for pneumonia and sepsis. Not quite 100% > yet. I really am not ready for a road trip just yet.? If I could get > someone to go with me and share the driving I would go this week.? > Thanks much for the offer, but I can't even retrieve a free motor just > yet. > Mike MacLean > > On Mon, May 15, 2023, 9:24 AM David Ambrose via Spridgets > wrote: > > I have a '62 Sprite with a 1275 that I'm looking to sell for a few > hundred. Not sure you want that many extra parts though. > > On 5/4/2023 2:53 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > > Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 > miles) > > have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were > going > > to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust? Looking to buy a > > 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but whole > > engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy > > engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. > > Mike MacLean > > San Bernardino > > (909) 615-8093 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a two car garage that houses > the Bugeye, a Harley Davidson and a BN2 mid restoration. There is an MGB > GT and a Honda in the driveway. There just isn't room for it. My > homeowners association would put a lean on my house if I parked it in the > driveway. Lucky for me a friend has offered a tired 1275 minus the head (I > have two heads rebuilt and ready to install). The only logistical problem > is I am in Southern California and he is in the Bakersfield area > (Tehachapi) which is a 4 -5 hour ride one way. I just got out of the > hospital for pneumonia and sepsis. Not quite 100% yet. I really am not > ready for a road trip just yet. If I could get someone to go with me and > share the driving I would go this week. Thanks much for the offer, but I > can't even retrieve a free motor just yet. > Mike MacLean > > On Mon, May 15, 2023, 9:24 AM David Ambrose via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I have a '62 Sprite with a 1275 that I'm looking to sell for a few >> hundred. Not sure you want that many extra parts though. >> >> On 5/4/2023 2:53 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: >> > Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 miles) >> > have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were going >> > to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust? Looking to buy a >> > 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but whole >> > engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy >> > engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. >> > Mike MacLean >> > San Bernardino >> > (909) 615-8093 >> > >> > ------------------------ >> > >> > spridgets at autox.team.net >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/springer.mike51 at gmail.com >> > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stargazer1 at cox.net Fri May 19 12:41:18 2023 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 11:41:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 core needed In-Reply-To: <92da16a0-5ab9-e855-9cc9-cbd1fecbe1c0@dinospider.com> References: <84032827-07d2-c07c-30d0-2725acbdae8f@cox.net> <92da16a0-5ab9-e855-9cc9-cbd1fecbe1c0@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <8102e099-44c4-d76c-25fa-80800db4281f@cox.net> That sounds interesting. It's an original wire wheel car. We've been wanting a weekend in Santa Barbara, though I'm not sure this is what my wife had in mind. :-) On 5/15/2023 1:51 PM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets wrote: > > ? I am in no need of another car either...but perhaps we could do some > creative financing for that '62 and take it apart here at my place in > Santa Barbara. I would not mind a good rear axle assembly and some > doohickeys here and there from the car to help with my project.? Its > not a Spridget but it is now 1098cc Spridget powered.?? Only gotcha is > my wife will get upset if it sits in the yard a year or 2 :) so we > would have to take it apart fairly quickly, like before the next rain > season. > > ?Bonus points if the rear is a original wire wheel rear and not a rear > with wire adapters. > > ?? Mike > > > On 5/15/2023 12:38 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: >> David, >> ? ? ? First of all, where are you located? Second, I have no room for >> another Brit car, small or otherwise. I have a two car garage that >> houses the Bugeye, a Harley Davidson and a BN2 mid restoration.? >> There is an MGB GT and a Honda in the driveway.? There just isn't >> room for it. My homeowners association would put a lean on my house >> if I parked it in the driveway.? Lucky for me a friend has offered a >> tired 1275 minus the head (I have two heads rebuilt and ready to >> install).? The only logistical problem is I am in Southern California >> and he is in the Bakersfield area (Tehachapi) which is a 4 -5 hour >> ride one way.? I just got out of the hospital for pneumonia and >> sepsis. Not quite 100% yet. I really am not ready for a road trip >> just yet. If I could get someone to go with me and share the driving >> I would go this week.? Thanks much for the offer, but I can't even >> retrieve a free motor just yet. >> Mike MacLean >> >> On Mon, May 15, 2023, 9:24 AM David Ambrose via Spridgets >> wrote: >> >> I have a '62 Sprite with a 1275 that I'm looking to sell for a few >> hundred. Not sure you want that many extra parts though. >> >> On 5/4/2023 2:53 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: >> > Anyone near the Southern California area (will travel up to 100 >> miles) >> > have a 1275 sitting on the floor of their garage that they were >> going >> > to rebuild someday, but it's just gathering dust? Looking to buy a >> > 1275 core to rebuild. Really I need mostly a short block, but >> whole >> > engines are OK. A rod knock in my Bugeye engine means I get to buy >> > engine parts all over again after just 3000 miles. >> > Mike MacLean >> > San Bernardino >> > (909) 615-8093 >> > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From weslake1330 at gmail.com Sat May 20 14:47:43 2023 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 21:47:43 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgetly update Message-ID: Hi List, No news on hoses - I guess it will need a personal visit that won't happen for a couple of months. This update then is about my Sprite's rear suspension. I've always had it lowered with lower springs and lowering blocks. However, more years ago then I care to remember I began making some front spring hangers that put the spring eye about an inch higher. I also had, thanks to a friend, some lowering blocks turned down from the standard inch (if not slightly more than that) to half an inch. So, all things being equal the ride height would be the same but with very slightly better handling. Except the leaf springs were old and I didn't see the point of doing a whole load of ride height critical work and then have to re-work stuff in the near future when I swapped the springs, and I had to wait an age to get some new ones to a similar spec. They arrived last week and I did the install to one side last Saturday and the other side this Saturday. I rushed last weeks install and didn't wire brush or paint the axle housing. I also found that I still hated the polyurethane bushes that never were a great fit and squished out to the point of being almost non-existent. So today, I took my time and cleaned and painted the axle housing where the u-bolts will sit. I have new Polybush brand leaf spring pads in polyurethane in their harder option. However, install didn't go as well and either there is a slight misalignment in one of the front hanger captive bolts or the thread isn't great but that can wait until next week for rectification (I'm not driving it anywhere!). Today I found the measured ride height isn't the same from side to side and while I suspect this is simply the different in the poly bush spring pads I won't be 100% certain until I redo the first side I did. One thing I'm aware of is that while the ride height will be the same (eventually on both sides) as it was before (I did take a measurement) the axle position is slightly different - by that half inch difference in the lowering block. So I will have to modify the Panhard rod mounting on the damper bracket and that will be a trip to someone with a welder. I think that also rather than have a solid block with a thick wall tube for the bolt welded to it, it will make sense to have to pieces of thick wall tube on top of each other to provide an alternative height if I find I change something else (a pity I never thought of that in the first place). Yes, it would be easier to make the change on the body bracket of the Panhard rod but that will very slightly adversely effect the handling so I don't plan on doing that, even for half an inch. Since my Sprite has a Frontline telescopic conversion I also need to check that the half inch difference doesn't cause the dampers to bottom out or ever extend (the current setting might have been on the limit other way. After sorting all of that out I then need to fit new Anti-tramp bars that are designed to pick up on my new front hanger bracket rather than use a bracket bolted to it. I've also made the new ones with much larger rubber bushes to make the arc they will move in when the axle goes up and down, a little easier. I figure I have at least 3 more days work to get all this finished, longer depending on how the brackets work out. I'm also hoping for a total weight saving of at least 2.2 pounds, if not nearer double that. Regards Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: RS5 9-50-lr.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 631040 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please bring enough for you and your crew along with an additional 10%.? If someone is considering helping out with brat lunch for Sunday please let me know.? Jeff provided map below for a Spridget Paddock.Race points are for the Saturday Sprint Race (durability) Qualification (position) & Spridget Race (position) We will have 2023 Series Stickers ($5) & Posters ($10)? Jeff will have these Saturday. I am not able to make it. Have a Great Time and Happy Father's Day!Stan On May 22, 2023, at 7:38 AM, stanbmason at aol.com wrote: Jeff, I was curious if you were going to be at Black Hawk. I have some 2023 Series Stickers that I will send you if you are for4 $5 per. We could use some help with organizing a SMRS Paddock and Brat Lunch too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If someone is considering helping out with brat lunch for Sunday please let me know.? Jeff provided map below for a Spridget Paddock.Race points are for the Saturday Sprint Race (durability) Qualification (position) & Spridget Race (position) We will have 2023 Series Stickers ($5) & Posters ($10)? Jeff will have these Saturday. I am not able to make it. Have a Great Time and Happy Father's Day!Stan On May 22, 2023, at 7:38 AM, stanbmason at aol.com wrote: Jeff, I was curious if you were going to be at Black Hawk. I have some 2023 Series Stickers that I will send you if you are for4 $5 per. We could use some help with organizing a SMRS Paddock and Brat Lunch too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 5D718E64-7279-456E-A0F4-C70030BCE755.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 90073 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Wed May 24 06:42:02 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 12:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Square Body Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1363498181.1493983.1684932122522@mail.yahoo.com> I am forwarding an email from Carl Goodwin who is wanting to sell his Racing Square Body Sprite. Please contact Carl if you have any interest. Stan Mason -----Original Message----- From: Carl Goodwin To: StanBMason at AOL.com Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 8:25 pm Subject: Jim Miller Sprite for sale Stan -- I wonder if you would be kind enough to circulate this for-sale message to your membership. I am planning to do this season and then get out of sports car racing.I'm sorry I never got around to doing one of your events, but they were just too far away for me to get to.Also, if you have a surface mailing address I would like to send along a picture - I don't know how to send them via the internet.Thanks in advance?if you can help me and best wishes for a great season this year.Carl Goodwin(440)557-5089 or(719)229-72458529 Silver Creek DriveNovelty, Ohio 44072 ? RACE CAR FOR SALE Ex-Jim MillerSprite HP - #94,turquoise blue After four years of racing, at Nelson Ledges, Mid-Ohio,Bellefontaine Hill Climb and Put-in-Bay, I am selling the famous Jim MillerSprite ? winner of 3 Runoffs - to go back to sailing. This is a ?Square Body?1962 car that Miller race-prepared in 1972 - it has a 50 year history as aracing car. It has a current Sports Car Club of America log book (as well asthe earlier ones from the Jim Miller era) and is up-to-date on the belts, 10lb. fire suppression system, and fuel cell. Specifications for the SCCAH-Production class (HP - #94) include the 1275cc engine with 1-1/4-inch SUcarburetors, ribcase transmission and Wilwood disc brakes. Racing equipmentincludes mid-mounted battery and Accusump, oil cooler, real magnesium 8-spokewheels (American Racing). Race results while I have had the car are a first, a secondand two thirds from SCCA, three thirds and a first from Bellefontaine HillClimb and no trophies racing against the modified cars at Put-in-Bay -- only alittle fun with ?The Middle of the Pack Racing Club,? about eight of my friendsand I. We?re not in the lead and we?re not bringing up the rear, we?re in themiddle. After the checkered flag falls, we meet at one of the trailers where abottle of champagne is being opened. We pour it into some cheesy little plasticcups and tell exaggerated stories about our great driving. All this is yours ifyou become the new owner of the ex-Jim Miller Sprite. Car is available Sept. 24 after Put-in-Bay. Trade for J27sailboat or make me a cash offer. CARL GOODWIN (author of the book on the Put-in-BayRoad Races) 440-557-5089 or (719)229-7245; Cleveland; attlastt at frontier.net I will be at these upcoming events where you can see the car:Bellefontaine Hillclimb August 26, 2023, SCCA Nelson Ledges Big Dog?s Last BarkDivisional Sept. 16 & 17, 2023, and Put-in-Bay Road Race Reunion Sept. 20 ?23, 2023. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Ex Jim Miller Sprite.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 12402 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Wed May 24 06:43:05 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 12:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Racing Square Body Sprite In-Reply-To: <1363498181.1493983.1684932122522@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1363498181.1493983.1684932122522@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <609638851.1509905.1684932185994@mail.yahoo.com> I am forwarding an email from Carl Goodwin who is wanting to sell his Racing Square Body Sprite. Please contact Carl if you have any interest. Stan Mason -----Original Message----- From: Carl Goodwin To: StanBMason at AOL.com Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 8:25 pm Subject: Jim Miller Sprite for sale Stan -- I wonder if you would be kind enough to circulate this for-sale message to your membership. I am planning to do this season and then get out of sports car racing.I'm sorry I never got around to doing one of your events, but they were just too far away for me to get to.Also, if you have a surface mailing address I would like to send along a picture - I don't know how to send them via the internet.Thanks in advance?if you can help me and best wishes for a great season this year.Carl Goodwin(440)557-5089 or(719)229-72458529 Silver Creek DriveNovelty, Ohio 44072 ? RACE CAR FOR SALE Ex-Jim MillerSprite HP - #94,turquoise blue After four years of racing, at Nelson Ledges, Mid-Ohio,Bellefontaine Hill Climb and Put-in-Bay, I am selling the famous Jim MillerSprite ? winner of 3 Runoffs - to go back to sailing. This is a ?Square Body?1962 car that Miller race-prepared in 1972 - it has a 50 year history as aracing car. It has a current Sports Car Club of America log book (as well asthe earlier ones from the Jim Miller era) and is up-to-date on the belts, 10lb. fire suppression system, and fuel cell. Specifications for the SCCAH-Production class (HP - #94) include the 1275cc engine with 1-1/4-inch SUcarburetors, ribcase transmission and Wilwood disc brakes. Racing equipmentincludes mid-mounted battery and Accusump, oil cooler, real magnesium 8-spokewheels (American Racing). Race results while I have had the car are a first, a secondand two thirds from SCCA, three thirds and a first from Bellefontaine HillClimb and no trophies racing against the modified cars at Put-in-Bay -- only alittle fun with ?The Middle of the Pack Racing Club,? about eight of my friendsand I. We?re not in the lead and we?re not bringing up the rear, we?re in themiddle. After the checkered flag falls, we meet at one of the trailers where abottle of champagne is being opened. We pour it into some cheesy little plasticcups and tell exaggerated stories about our great driving. All this is yours ifyou become the new owner of the ex-Jim Miller Sprite. Car is available Sept. 24 after Put-in-Bay. Trade for J27sailboat or make me a cash offer. CARL GOODWIN (author of the book on the Put-in-BayRoad Races) 440-557-5089 or (719)229-7245; Cleveland; attlastt at frontier.net I will be at these upcoming events where you can see the car:Bellefontaine Hillclimb August 26, 2023, SCCA Nelson Ledges Big Dog?s Last BarkDivisional Sept. 16 & 17, 2023, and Put-in-Bay Road Race Reunion Sept. 20 ?23, 2023. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Ex Jim Miller Sprite.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 12402 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Thu May 25 07:01:59 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 13:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] SMRS Rules and Reg Update References: <1710718917.1930930.1685019719891.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1710718917.1930930.1685019719891@mail.yahoo.com> I wanted to pass along the latest on Sprite Midget Race Series Rules and Regulation revision 5/16/23, which you can see below or it maybe clearer in above attachment.? This has been reviewed by the majority of Rules and Reg Team.? Yellow highlights latest changes 2023 VSCDA SpriteMidget Race Series Rules and Regulations (Revision 5/16/23 rough draft) I. Objective: Increase numbers for Racing Spridgets @ VSCDAEvents by having: A. More cars, which, will allowmore wheel to wheel racing safely within Spridget Classes (with classes forvarious levels of preparation). B. Continued tradition establishedby Thickos through camaraderie and group get together (cook out lunch Saturdayand Sunday, British Pub Saturday evening when a 3 day race weekend along with technical andmoral support through group). C. Series Points developed fromEarlier Vintage Vee model. Including durability (laps completed) from 1stSprint Race, Fastest time from 1st Qualification Race and Position for SpridgetRace in a best 2 out of 4 race weekends identified in series. D. To embrace vintage sports carracing philosophy and etiquette of VSCDA?s Driver Policy with an emphasis onSafety. E. Encourage street Austin Healeys& MGs as spectators by offering special parking near our Spridget Compoundinviting them to join in the fun and encourage track touring session andassisting as crew. Note: Revisions to this document will be highlighted in yellow sochanges from previous documents can be seen more easily. Date of revision willbe listed at top of document. II. 2021 II. VSCDA Sprite Midget Point Races 2023: A. Gingerman April 4-28 ? (May 4&5 Driver School) (May6&7 Race Weekend) B. Blackhawk Classic June 16-18 C. Waterford Hills July 21-23 near Clarkston, MI D. Grattan Grand Finale August 11-13 III. Racing Classes per VSCDA / SCCA (1972 Classifications Guidelinesfor Points and Awards) Revamp with 1972 GCR / PCS Focus. Our intent isto have anyone interested in racing a Vintage Spridget to join us. This is adouble edge sword since an individual may have their own personal opinion ofwhy they think they should or should not be in a certain class. Vintage Racinghas many clubs throughout the US and Canada with different criteria than ours.We have 3 levels within 3 classes that should allow anyone interested in racingto have a place to compete with other similar prepared racing Spridgets. Werecognize that everyone has an opinion of what is fair, based on their logic.We have tried to make that more defined by 1972 SCCA GCR Specificationsdetailed, which is a VSCDA requirement. We would like to encourage placing theproper designation on your car & when you register. IV. SMRS 1972 SCCA GCR / PCS Highlight of Requirements. A. Background: VSCDA definesRegulations for Group 2 cars like our Sprites and Midgets from the VSCDAWebsite and updated 3/28/22 titled TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR RACE CARS: B. VSCDA - SCCA 1967 General CompetitionRules Appendix A/Article. Production Category Sports Cars (w/PCS sheets) andafter review, 1972 and prior cars homologated to similar regulations publishedby FIA and some other sanctioning bodies. C. Objective: Now that we have acopy of SCCA?s 1972 GCR /PCS rev 1/73 we actually have facts on what wasrequired then vs what we heard or thought it might be. This document isavailable to anyone that would like an electronic copy. The goal for thisdocument is to highlight requirements as of 1972 GCR that would impact SquareBody Sprites and Midgets on common areas of misunderstanding. For the sake ofcommonality and consensus within our group Mk1 Bug Eyes will also follow 1972GCR requirements, which is consistent with VSCDA requirements. D. 1972 SCCA GCR Highlights (thefollowing highlights are for those wanting to run in ERA Correct 2E Bug Eye or2D Square Body class). Comments are in ( ) for clarification: a. Interior: ??????????????? i.Instrument panel (maybe altered if weight is not reduced see GCR) ii. Interior trim ? Removal ofinterior trim except door panels iii. Seats ? Driver seat maybereplaced. Passenger seat maybe removed. b. Exterior: i. Grills may not be removed ii. Front signal light, lenses,bulbs must be removed and opening can be used for venting brakes with maximum ?in wire mesh iii. Headlight openings must becovered if not used for ducting air and must be metal, fiberglass etc. iv. Spoilers are permissible, butminimal (see additional details 1972 GCR) v. Fenders maybe altered only toprovide for tire clearance, provided that the fender opening profile, viewedfrom the side of the automobile is not changed. vi. Safety fuel tanks must beplace close to original position. c. Tires, Wheels, Suspension: i. Wheels maybe 1.5 inches widerthan specified. Wheels may not exceed +/- 2 inches track dimension. Center lockwheels and hubs is permitted within this track restriction (wire wheelcondition), (square bodied cars in the later years had 4.5 inch wide rims so upto 6 inch wide rim is possible) d. Engine Compartment: i. Battery ? make or size ofbattery provided its voltage and location remains unchanged ii. Generator / Alternator ?Standard maybe replaced with generator or alternator of different make or sizeas long as location and drive are the same. iii. Velocity stack and or cold airbox maybe used iv. Transmission / Rear Axle ?ratios as specified by SCCA (PCS) Straight Cut Close Ratio accepted withdesignated ratios (theseratios were BMC?s Straight Cut Close Ratios) 1972 SCCA Highlights: | SCCA Class | HP 948 (VSCDA 2E) | GP 1098 ? | FP 1275 (VSCDA 2D) | | Carburation | 2 X 1.25 SUs | 2 X 1.25 SUs | 2 X 1.25 SUs | | Front Brakes | 8.2 in dia solid disc | 8.2 in dia solid disc | 8.2 in dia solid disc | | Rear Brakes | 7 inch drum | 7 inch drum | 7 inch drum | Additional details available uponrequest through scanned copies of 1972 SCCA GCR/PCS V. VSCDA has exceptions that override SCCA 1972 GCR/PCS requirements,which can be implemented: A. Page 6 VSCDA ?Maximum overbore0.060?, standard stroke? B. Page 6 VSCDA ?Weight on PCS,minus 5% tolerance? (theseweights are found in VSCDA GCR section of Website) C. Page 8 VSCDA ?Roller rockers arepermitted? D. Page 9 VSCDA ?Electronicignitions triggered from the distributor are allowed. The make of the distributoris free, provided installation does not require any modifications to theengine. Crankshaft triggering is specifically prohibited.? E. Tire Specification requirementper VSCDA 8/1/2020:? Group 2: VintageProduction Production cars: Avon: CR6ZZ, ACB9 only (ACB10 not permitted) BFG:G-Force Sport Dunlop: L or M-series; Formula Ford (9092) Falken: RT615KGoodyear: Vintage Blue streak, as appropriate Hankook: Z212, Z213 Hoosier:Street TD, TD S, Vintage TD, VFF, Speedster, Super Chain Link Kumho: V700Nitto: NT-01 Toyo: Proxes RA1, R888, R888R Vredestein: Sprint Classic, Sportrac5 Yokohama: A008R, A032R Minimum marked aspect ratio of 60, tread depth musthave 2/32" remaining at all times. Certain unlisted tires MAY be allowedon a case by case basis. All exceptions must be pre-approved, noted in logbookand will only be considered in special cases. ? G. Mod 1 & Mod 2Specifications: a. If you do not comply with 1972SCCA GCR and or PCS than you are not in 2E or 2D classification and will beplaced in Mod 1 or 2 classification. b. I was not able to transfer theMod 1 & 2 section into this document (please see that VSCDA chart on Page 7under Group 2 MOD Preparation. The above SMRS requirements were prepared in 2017 by StanMason and approved by (Buzz Merchlewitz, Thad Evans, John Deikis and DougBruce). ?Since that time additional itemshave been added for more clarity.? Acheck off list is also available from Stan Mason for assisting with classifyingyour car by yourself. | VSCDA Sprite / Midget Minimum Weight Requirement weight in pounds (all fluids and without gas) (reference 6.25 lbs. per gallon of gasoline at 72 degrees F) | | | Model / Sanction | SCCA | VSCDA (2E/2D)Production 95% | VSCDA Mod 1 90% | VSCDA Mod 2 85% | | Bug Eye | 1408 | 1338 | 1267 | 1197 | | Square Body | 1478 | 1404 | 1330 | 1256 | | ? Overall macro summary of differences in Spridgetclassifications for guidelines: | Sprite Mk1 (Bug Eye) or base chassis for specialty Sprites | Sprite Mk2-5/ Midget Mk1-4 (Square Body) or base chassis for specialty Sprites | | 2E = VSCDA ERA Correct Production Sports Car, 1972 SCCA GCR/PCS compliant, 948 Block, <996cc, steel body car, door panels, lever shocks, 2x1.25 SUs | 2D = VSCDA ERA Correct Production Sports Car, 1972 SCCA GCR/PCS compliant, 1275 Block, <1326cc, steel body car, door panels, lever shocks, 2x1.25 SUs | | 2M1 = Steel body car, 1275 block, <1326cc Weber or other non-stock carb, stock brakes per 1972 GCR, rear tube shocks only | 2M1 = Steel body car, 1275 block, <1326cc Weber or other non-stock carb, stock brakes per 1972 GCR, rear tube shocks only | | 2M2 = Same as 2M1 including fiberglass body parts, rear disc brakes, tubular shocks, alloy head, A-Arm shock support, Dog Box Transmission | 2M2 = Same as 2M1 including fiberglass body parts, rear disc brakes, tubular shocks, alloy head, A-Arm shock support, Dog Box Transmission | | GT/ Prototype | GT/ Prototype | | 2UP = GT / Prototype Class including Speedwell, WSM (Period Fiberglass Bodies) with<1100cc engine, rear disc brakes. No weight requirement. | 2UP = GT / Prototype Class including Speedwell, WSM, Arkley (Period Fiberglass Bodies) with<1100cc engine, rear disc brakes. No weight requirement. | | 2OP = Same as 2UP with 1275cc Block, <1383cc, no weight requirement | 2OP = Same as 2UP with 1275cc Block, <1383cc, no weight requirement? | ? VI. Race Series Points 2022 awarded from accumulation of 2 ofthe 4 designated races of Gingerman, Black Hawk Farms, Pittsburgh GP andGrattan. A. 1st Sprint Race (DurabilityPoints per class) represent 1/3 of total points during race weekend. The First SprintRace is usually held on Saturday (maximum 8 points). If a racer completes lessthan the most completed laps available by a similar class racer the resultswill be based on a percentage of that 8 points rounded up. ?These points reward endurance. If the classsession has less than 8 laps and a competitor completed all laps available theywill be awarded 8 points. B. 1st Qualification (Fastest Timeper class): Points are awarded per C below except based on fastest time. C. Sprite Midget Exclusive Race(Finishing Position per class): Points are awarded based on finishing position.First (8 points), Second (7), Third (6), Fourth (5), Fifth (4), Sixth (3),Seventh (2) & all other finishers (1). D. A racer can accumulate up to 16points for Qualification and Sprint Race along with additional points for theFeature Race or Exclusive Sprite Midget Race. The maximum points awarded perrace weekend would be 24. The maximum accumulated in the best 2 out of 4 serieswould be 48 points. E. A driver will not receive pointsfor a session in which they were involved in an on track incident resulting ina disciplinary action from the VSCDA Drivers Committee. F. If a driver enters all 4eligible race weekends he or she can throw out the worst weekends, which willallow any mechanical or other issues to be discounted. Final results will betallied from the 2 weekends with the most accumulated points unless otherwise notifiedby racer. G. An overall winner will beselected regardless of class based on a perfect score of 48 points from 2 raceweekends. If more than one racer has highest points accumulated it will beconsidered an overall winner tie. H. Awards will be presented atGrattan per the above Class Categories at the end of the last Group 2 race. I. These awards are in the spiritof Vintage Sports Car Philosophy recognizing fun and durability by completingthe most laps per race weekend contributing 1/3 of total available. V. Race Series Special Awards (these awards will be determinedby drivers and crew and awarded with end of season awards): A. Gary Kropf Spirit Award for Vintage Spridgets (Traveling LargePiston Award). Criteria: 1. Fast, safe, courteous driver,(promotes the ?vintage spirit?) 2. Assists others within the paddock? repairs, parts, advice. Willing to jump into help and assist other Spridgetmake the next session. 3. Quick to organize groupactivity ? brats for lunch ?all pork weekend?, watching other group races, fromthe best vantage points, coordinating seating at dinner, etc. 4. Volunteers with the VSCDA oncommittees, and sub-committees B. Jim Donato Sprite Midget Race Series Most Respected Driver Award(Traveling Steering Wheel in a display case Award) Criteria: 1. Predictable / Trusted (usesmirrors, points faster cars by, passes safely and allows others room to pass andis always a defensive driver over winning at all cost), stays on racing lineexcept when car failures would leave fluids on track or safety is a concern) 2. Objective: Listens to othersand approaches other drivers that may have an issue with in an open and fairway. Can sit down with any driver and feel comfortable that they did the rightthing when on the track. 3. Observant: Looks forward toobserve incidents and flag stations, inspects car between sessions for safetyto avoid causing accidents to others on track. 4. Respectful: Avoids Red Mist,which is identified as an emotional win at all costs attitude and maintainsVintage Spirit Philosophy. VI. Abbreviations andclarifications: GCR = SCCA General CompetitionRules PCS = SCCA Production CarSpecifications ERA Correct = 1972 SCCA GCR forGroup 2 Production Sports Car Class (Bug Eye & Square Body). Up until thistime we have only had 1275 engines for Square Bodies. Other considerations willbe made if 1098 or later 1500cc race cars join us. M1= Modification Preparation (Thisclass is for Spridgets more slightly modified beyond ERA correct including allBug Eyes over 1098cc and or additional weight reductions of 10%) M2= Modification Preparation (Thisidentifies Spridgets more highly modified beyond M1 with more recent SCCA racedcars and or additional weight reduction of 15%) VII. Misc: This document is a ?Work InProgress? and can be expected to change in the future based on understandingother Vintage Group requirements and our own consensus of what seems reasonableamong our group. We are open to any thoughts of how to improve this fun VintageSpridget Racing series. This series is for fun on and off the track. There is aclass for every level of preparation. Please contact Stan Mason =StanBMason at AOL.com. This is open to anyone interested in Vintage Racing aSpridget with us and of course it includes our typical joint cookout for allattendees usually Saturday and Saturday Lunch. VIII. VSCDA Sprite Midget RaceSeries I will post results, updates,photos and revisions to rules through our e-mail distribution list if I haveyour e-mail address. There is also additional up to date details and pics onour VSCDA website under Racing Tab / Events / Sprite Midget Series.? If you have friends that would be interestedin being updated on this race series please let me know their E-Mail Address.VSCDA continues to do a great job promoting our series through theiradvertisements and exclusive races through Vintage Sports Car Publications. A. Sprite Midget Race SeriesSticker (provided by Cana and Colin Comer) and Class Letters are available for$10, Jeff Carloss has Series Posters for $10, which all go to help support theseries. SMRS T-Shirts $15. We will have these items available at Gingerman,Blackhawk and Grattan for anyone that is interested. B. We are always looking forsponsors.? Please mention thatopportunity to others you know and suppliers of parts.? We are always interested in anyone that wouldlike to fully or partially support our Series. If you would like to be moreinvolved in our group and would like to have a special project or positionplease let me know. This group will only continue to be successful if we haveothers that are willing to contribute and lead. Thank you for your interest,support and participation, corrections and suggestions are always welcomed! Pleaseforgive my grammar.? Ask for latestrevision to make sure you have the latest changes. Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2022 VSCDA Sprite Midget Race Series Rules and Regulations.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 22322 bytes Desc: not available URL: From charlie at charles-hall.com Thu May 25 10:04:37 2023 From: charlie at charles-hall.com (Charles Hall III) Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 16:04:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] SMRS Rules and Reg Update In-Reply-To: <1710718917.1930930.1685019719891@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1710718917.1930930.1685019719891.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1710718917.1930930.1685019719891@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you for your thorough explanation and good work Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: stanbmason at aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 9:01:59 AM To: allmedsys at bwig.net ; andrew.more.fsae at gmail.com ; attlastt at frontier.net ; bmwwxman at gmail.com ; buckleyproperties at gmail.com ; bugeyedave at aol.com ; buks62500 at yahoo.com ; cana.comer at gmail.com ; ccstickleback at yahoo.com ; Charles Hall III ; chia219 at comcast.net ; christopher.beukema at gmail.com ; cjracr at hotmail.com ; clancy at sunflower.com ; colin at colinsclassicauto.com ; cseifert at tombrowninc.com ; d.walters at lackstrim.com ; dbkessinger at comcast.net ; dbrown07 at aol.com ; dbruce at taborbruce.com ; deikis at gmail.com ; derekchima at hotmail.com ; devildogracing9 at gmail.com ; dick at mgcarclub.com ; dlee1967 at sbcglobal.net ; dsweet3193 at aol.com ; dynamic881961 at yahoo.com ; edwardhinsa at gmail.com ; edwforrest at gmail.com ; ellie at stagecraftplayers.com ; ezanner at gmail.com ; fishnet at essex1.com ; gary.perser at gmail.com ; happykozfam at comcast.net ; hcgracing at aol.com ; jbtruck at dwave.net ; jdonato at donatoandsonsmotors.com ; jeff.bakker at yahoo.com ; jeff at mozer.com ; k_hund59 at yahoo.com ; kekjacobsen at yahoo.com ; kered_2004 at yahoo.com ; kirkkos at yahoo.com ; larsmg at aol.com ; maxspeedwell773 at gmail.com ; mccormackr at hss.edu ; mg72racer at juno.com ; mgvadick at aol.com ; mmaehling at comcast.net ; mowogbill at yahoo.com ; nadadawgracing at yahoo.com ; pauljharris914 at yahoo.com ; ptgbhtl at aol.com ; racingred69midget at rogers.com ; refisk at chartermi.net ; rfheil at aol.com ; rickdmichalek at gmail.com ; rob.futcher at yahoo.com ; ron.bartell at comcast.net ; saeppli at aol.com ; salisje at comcast.net ; sarl45 at hotmail.com ; scthsc47 at gmail.com ; skip.meyer at ymail.com ; slugthemtrhd at suddenlink.net ; soavero at yahoo.com ; spridget72 at yahoo.com ; spridget at aol.com ; spridgetech at ameritech.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; steve.bisson at yahoo.com ; steve at onecoleman.com ; steve at skunkriverresto.com ; stevebest3131 at gmail.com ; stevewright9928 at gmail.com ; stine.jason at gmail.com ; swindrace at aol.com ; swope66 at aol.com ; ta.wilcox57 at gmail.com ; tcspeedwell at gmail.com ; ted at hoyes.com ; terry at toyshop-resto.com ; thadevans at windstream.net ; thershey at frontiernet.net ; tlcnam at aol.com ; tmoran at moranconstruction.com ; tom.daly at westsidevw.com ; viggen at bellsouth.net ; w1979mgb at comcast.net ; walt at freckmannart.com ; wc at spridget.com ; wrtr at aol.com ; wsthompson at thicko.com ; adammozdzien at gmail.com ; bravenrace at yahoo.com ; brian.ulinski at gmail.com ; dlee1967 at sbclgobal.net ; dstantonkc at gmail.com ; jbasnik3 at gmail.com ; leah at leahbauerdesigns.com ; rob.futcher at yahoo.com ; swope66 at aol.com Subject: SMRS Rules and Reg Update I wanted to pass along the latest on Sprite Midget Race Series Rules and Regulation revision 5/16/23, which you can see below or it maybe clearer in above attachment. This has been reviewed by the majority of Rules and Reg Team. Yellow highlights latest changes 2023 VSCDA Sprite Midget Race Series Rules and Regulations (Revision 5/16/23 rough draft) I. Objective: Increase numbers for Racing Spridgets @ VSCDA Events by having: A. More cars, which, will allow more wheel to wheel racing safely within Spridget Classes (with classes for various levels of preparation). B. Continued tradition established by Thickos through camaraderie and group get together (cook out lunch Saturday and Sunday, British Pub Saturday evening when a 3 day race weekend along with technical and moral support through group). C. Series Points developed from Earlier Vintage Vee model. Including durability (laps completed) from 1st Sprint Race, Fastest time from 1st Qualification Race and Position for Spridget Race in a best 2 out of 4 race weekends identified in series. D. To embrace vintage sports car racing philosophy and etiquette of VSCDA?s Driver Policy with an emphasis on Safety. E. Encourage street Austin Healeys & MGs as spectators by offering special parking near our Spridget Compound inviting them to join in the fun and encourage track touring session and assisting as crew. Note: Revisions to this document will be highlighted in yellow so changes from previous documents can be seen more easily. Date of revision will be listed at top of document. II. 2021 II. VSCDA Sprite Midget Point Races 2023: A. Gingerman April 4-28 ? (May 4&5 Driver School) (May 6&7 Race Weekend) B. Blackhawk Classic June 16-18 C. Waterford Hills July 21-23 near Clarkston, MI D. Grattan Grand Finale August 11-13 III. Racing Classes per VSCDA / SCCA (1972 Classifications Guidelines for Points and Awards) Revamp with 1972 GCR / PCS Focus. Our intent is to have anyone interested in racing a Vintage Spridget to join us. This is a double edge sword since an individual may have their own personal opinion of why they think they should or should not be in a certain class. Vintage Racing has many clubs throughout the US and Canada with different criteria than ours. We have 3 levels within 3 classes that should allow anyone interested in racing to have a place to compete with other similar prepared racing Spridgets. We recognize that everyone has an opinion of what is fair, based on their logic. We have tried to make that more defined by 1972 SCCA GCR Specifications detailed, which is a VSCDA requirement. We would like to encourage placing the proper designation on your car & when you register. IV. SMRS 1972 SCCA GCR / PCS Highlight of Requirements. A. Background: VSCDA defines Regulations for Group 2 cars like our Sprites and Midgets from the VSCDA Website and updated 3/28/22 titled TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR RACE CARS: B. VSCDA - SCCA 1967 General Competition Rules Appendix A/Article. Production Category Sports Cars (w/PCS sheets) and after review, 1972 and prior cars homologated to similar regulations published by FIA and some other sanctioning bodies. C. Objective: Now that we have a copy of SCCA?s 1972 GCR /PCS rev 1/73 we actually have facts on what was required then vs what we heard or thought it might be. This document is available to anyone that would like an electronic copy. The goal for this document is to highlight requirements as of 1972 GCR that would impact Square Body Sprites and Midgets on common areas of misunderstanding. For the sake of commonality and consensus within our group Mk1 Bug Eyes will also follow 1972 GCR requirements, which is consistent with VSCDA requirements. D. 1972 SCCA GCR Highlights (the following highlights are for those wanting to run in ERA Correct 2E Bug Eye or 2D Square Body class). Comments are in ( ) for clarification: a. Interior: i. Instrument panel (maybe altered if weight is not reduced see GCR) ii. Interior trim ? Removal of interior trim except door panels iii. Seats ? Driver seat maybe replaced. Passenger seat maybe removed. b. Exterior: i. Grills may not be removed ii. Front signal light, lenses, bulbs must be removed and opening can be used for venting brakes with maximum ? in wire mesh iii. Headlight openings must be covered if not used for ducting air and must be metal, fiberglass etc. iv. Spoilers are permissible, but minimal (see additional details 1972 GCR) v. Fenders maybe altered only to provide for tire clearance, provided that the fender opening profile, viewed from the side of the automobile is not changed. vi. Safety fuel tanks must be place close to original position. c. Tires, Wheels, Suspension: i. Wheels maybe 1.5 inches wider than specified. Wheels may not exceed +/- 2 inches track dimension. Center lock wheels and hubs is permitted within this track restriction (wire wheel condition), (square bodied cars in the later years had 4.5 inch wide rims so up to 6 inch wide rim is possible) d. Engine Compartment: i. Battery ? make or size of battery provided its voltage and location remains unchanged ii. Generator / Alternator ? Standard maybe replaced with generator or alternator of different make or size as long as location and drive are the same. iii. Velocity stack and or cold air box maybe used iv. Transmission / Rear Axle ? ratios as specified by SCCA (PCS) Straight Cut Close Ratio accepted with designated ratios (these ratios were BMC?s Straight Cut Close Ratios) 1972 SCCA Highlights: SCCA Class HP 948 (VSCDA 2E) GP 1098 FP 1275 (VSCDA 2D) Carburation 2 X 1.25 SUs 2 X 1.25 SUs 2 X 1.25 SUs Front Brakes 8.2 in dia solid disc 8.2 in dia solid disc 8.2 in dia solid disc Rear Brakes 7 inch drum 7 inch drum 7 inch drum Additional details available upon request through scanned copies of 1972 SCCA GCR/PCS V. VSCDA has exceptions that override SCCA 1972 GCR/PCS requirements, which can be implemented: A. Page 6 VSCDA ?Maximum overbore 0.060?, standard stroke? B. Page 6 VSCDA ?Weight on PCS, minus 5% tolerance? (these weights are found in VSCDA GCR section of Website) C. Page 8 VSCDA ?Roller rockers are permitted? D. Page 9 VSCDA ?Electronic ignitions triggered from the distributor are allowed. The make of the distributor is free, provided installation does not require any modifications to the engine. Crankshaft triggering is specifically prohibited.? E. Tire Specification requirement per VSCDA 8/1/2020: Group 2: Vintage Production Production cars: Avon: CR6ZZ, ACB9 only (ACB10 not permitted) BFG: G-Force Sport Dunlop: L or M-series; Formula Ford (9092) Falken: RT615K Goodyear: Vintage Blue streak, as appropriate Hankook: Z212, Z213 Hoosier: Street TD, TD S, Vintage TD, VFF, Speedster, Super Chain Link Kumho: V700 Nitto: NT-01 Toyo: Proxes RA1, R888, R888R Vredestein: Sprint Classic, Sportrac 5 Yokohama: A008R, A032R Minimum marked aspect ratio of 60, tread depth must have 2/32" remaining at all times. Certain unlisted tires MAY be allowed on a case by case basis. All exceptions must be pre-approved, noted in logbook and will only be considered in special cases. G. Mod 1 & Mod 2 Specifications: a. If you do not comply with 1972 SCCA GCR and or PCS than you are not in 2E or 2D classification and will be placed in Mod 1 or 2 classification. b. I was not able to transfer the Mod 1 & 2 section into this document (please see that VSCDA chart on Page 7 under Group 2 MOD Preparation. The above SMRS requirements were prepared in 2017 by Stan Mason and approved by (Buzz Merchlewitz, Thad Evans, John Deikis and Doug Bruce). Since that time additional items have been added for more clarity. A check off list is also available from Stan Mason for assisting with classifying your car by yourself. VSCDA Sprite / Midget Minimum Weight Requirement weight in pounds (all fluids and without gas) (reference 6.25 lbs. per gallon of gasoline at 72 degrees F) Model / Sanction SCCA VSCDA (2E/2D)Production 95% VSCDA Mod 1 90% VSCDA Mod 2 85% Bug Eye 1408 1338 1267 1197 Square Body 1478 1404 1330 1256 Overall macro summary of differences in Spridget classifications for guidelines: Sprite Mk1 (Bug Eye) or base chassis for specialty Sprites Sprite Mk2-5/ Midget Mk1-4 (Square Body) or base chassis for specialty Sprites 2E = VSCDA ERA Correct Production Sports Car, 1972 SCCA GCR/PCS compliant, 948 Block, <996cc, steel body car, door panels, lever shocks, 2x1.25 SUs 2D = VSCDA ERA Correct Production Sports Car, 1972 SCCA GCR/PCS compliant, 1275 Block, <1326cc, steel body car, door panels, lever shocks, 2x1.25 SUs 2M1 = Steel body car, 1275 block, <1326cc Weber or other non-stock carb, stock brakes per 1972 GCR, rear tube shocks only 2M1 = Steel body car, 1275 block, <1326cc Weber or other non-stock carb, stock brakes per 1972 GCR, rear tube shocks only 2M2 = Same as 2M1 including fiberglass body parts, rear disc brakes, tubular shocks, alloy head, A-Arm shock support, Dog Box Transmission 2M2 = Same as 2M1 including fiberglass body parts, rear disc brakes, tubular shocks, alloy head, A-Arm shock support, Dog Box Transmission GT/ Prototype GT/ Prototype 2UP = GT / Prototype Class including Speedwell, WSM (Period Fiberglass Bodies) with<1100cc engine, rear disc brakes. No weight requirement. 2UP = GT / Prototype Class including Speedwell, WSM, Arkley (Period Fiberglass Bodies) with<1100cc engine, rear disc brakes. No weight requirement. 2OP = Same as 2UP with 1275cc Block, <1383cc, no weight requirement 2OP = Same as 2UP with 1275cc Block, <1383cc, no weight requirement VI. Race Series Points 2022 awarded from accumulation of 2 of the 4 designated races of Gingerman, Black Hawk Farms, Pittsburgh GP and Grattan. A. 1st Sprint Race (Durability Points per class) represent 1/3 of total points during race weekend. The First Sprint Race is usually held on Saturday (maximum 8 points). If a racer completes less than the most completed laps available by a similar class racer the results will be based on a percentage of that 8 points rounded up. These points reward endurance. If the class session has less than 8 laps and a competitor completed all laps available they will be awarded 8 points. B. 1st Qualification (Fastest Time per class): Points are awarded per C below except based on fastest time. C. Sprite Midget Exclusive Race (Finishing Position per class): Points are awarded based on finishing position. First (8 points), Second (7), Third (6), Fourth (5), Fifth (4), Sixth (3), Seventh (2) & all other finishers (1). D. A racer can accumulate up to 16 points for Qualification and Sprint Race along with additional points for the Feature Race or Exclusive Sprite Midget Race. The maximum points awarded per race weekend would be 24. The maximum accumulated in the best 2 out of 4 series would be 48 points. E. A driver will not receive points for a session in which they were involved in an on track incident resulting in a disciplinary action from the VSCDA Drivers Committee. F. If a driver enters all 4 eligible race weekends he or she can throw out the worst weekends, which will allow any mechanical or other issues to be discounted. Final results will be tallied from the 2 weekends with the most accumulated points unless otherwise notified by racer. G. An overall winner will be selected regardless of class based on a perfect score of 48 points from 2 race weekends. If more than one racer has highest points accumulated it will be considered an overall winner tie. H. Awards will be presented at Grattan per the above Class Categories at the end of the last Group 2 race. I. These awards are in the spirit of Vintage Sports Car Philosophy recognizing fun and durability by completing the most laps per race weekend contributing 1/3 of total available. V. Race Series Special Awards (these awards will be determined by drivers and crew and awarded with end of season awards): A. Gary Kropf Spirit Award for Vintage Spridgets (Traveling Large Piston Award). Criteria: 1. Fast, safe, courteous driver, (promotes the ?vintage spirit?) 2. Assists others within the paddock ? repairs, parts, advice. Willing to jump into help and assist other Spridget make the next session. 3. Quick to organize group activity ? brats for lunch ?all pork weekend?, watching other group races, from the best vantage points, coordinating seating at dinner, etc. 4. Volunteers with the VSCDA on committees, and sub-committees B. Jim Donato Sprite Midget Race Series Most Respected Driver Award (Traveling Steering Wheel in a display case Award) Criteria: 1. Predictable / Trusted (uses mirrors, points faster cars by, passes safely and allows others room to pass and is always a defensive driver over winning at all cost), stays on racing line except when car failures would leave fluids on track or safety is a concern) 2. Objective: Listens to others and approaches other drivers that may have an issue with in an open and fair way. Can sit down with any driver and feel comfortable that they did the right thing when on the track. 3. Observant: Looks forward to observe incidents and flag stations, inspects car between sessions for safety to avoid causing accidents to others on track. 4. Respectful: Avoids Red Mist, which is identified as an emotional win at all costs attitude and maintains Vintage Spirit Philosophy. VI. Abbreviations and clarifications: GCR = SCCA General Competition Rules PCS = SCCA Production Car Specifications ERA Correct = 1972 SCCA GCR for Group 2 Production Sports Car Class (Bug Eye & Square Body). Up until this time we have only had 1275 engines for Square Bodies. Other considerations will be made if 1098 or later 1500cc race cars join us. M1= Modification Preparation (This class is for Spridgets more slightly modified beyond ERA correct including all Bug Eyes over 1098cc and or additional weight reductions of 10%) M2= Modification Preparation (This identifies Spridgets more highly modified beyond M1 with more recent SCCA raced cars and or additional weight reduction of 15%) VII. Misc: This document is a ?Work In Progress? and can be expected to change in the future based on understanding other Vintage Group requirements and our own consensus of what seems reasonable among our group. We are open to any thoughts of how to improve this fun Vintage Spridget Racing series. This series is for fun on and off the track. There is a class for every level of preparation. Please contact Stan Mason = StanBMason at AOL.com. This is open to anyone interested in Vintage Racing a Spridget with us and of course it includes our typical joint cookout for all attendees usually Saturday and Saturday Lunch. VIII. VSCDA Sprite Midget Race Series I will post results, updates, photos and revisions to rules through our e-mail distribution list if I have your e-mail address. There is also additional up to date details and pics on our VSCDA website under Racing Tab / Events / Sprite Midget Series. If you have friends that would be interested in being updated on this race series please let me know their E-Mail Address. VSCDA continues to do a great job promoting our series through their advertisements and exclusive races through Vintage Sports Car Publications. A. Sprite Midget Race Series Sticker (provided by Cana and Colin Comer) and Class Letters are available for $10, Jeff Carloss has Series Posters for $10, which all go to help support the series. SMRS T-Shirts $15. We will have these items available at Gingerman, Blackhawk and Grattan for anyone that is interested. B. We are always looking for sponsors. Please mention that opportunity to others you know and suppliers of parts. We are always interested in anyone that would like to fully or partially support our Series. If you would like to be more involved in our group and would like to have a special project or position please let me know. This group will only continue to be successful if we have others that are willing to contribute and lead. Thank you for your interest, support and participation, corrections and suggestions are always welcomed! Please forgive my grammar. Ask for latest revision to make sure you have the latest changes. Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Fri May 26 15:58:06 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 21:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] SMRS Gingerman Results adjusted In-Reply-To: <2C471486-834D-4BA6-9DFB-5F68F5FD4F0A@chartermi.net> References: <2C471486-834D-4BA6-9DFB-5F68F5FD4F0A@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1522529105.2500612.1685138287164@mail.yahoo.com> Spridgeteers. The attached are the beginning of the Season results from Gingerman our best 2? of 4 series.? I want to thank Rick Fisk for taking on the result of compiling results.? 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