From daredelvis at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 15:40:36 2023 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 14:40:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib case baulk rings Message-ID: Does anyone have a suggestion for good baulk rings for a ribcase? 2 out of three I got from Moss work just fine, one does not. I'm also considering replacing the front cover with one with an oil seal. Does anyone have experience with that? Thanks, Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Jun 2 16:59:20 2023 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:59:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib case baulk rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I replaced the front cover on my gearbox a few years ago with one with a seal. Works great, no leaks. I think I bought it from Jeff at Winners Circle. > On Jun 2, 2023, at 5:53 PM, brian via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Does anyone have a suggestion for good baulk rings for a ribcase? 2 out of three I got from Moss work just fine, one does not. I'm also considering replacing the front cover with one with an oil seal. Does anyone have experience with that? > > Thanks, > Brian > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Fri Jun 2 17:36:54 2023 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy)) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 23:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Rib case baulk ring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2043720350.521923.1685749014806@mail.yahoo.com> Brian!Winners circle !? ?100%!Send your cover and it will get machined and returned with a seal installed!Chuck On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 07:12:31 PM EDT, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: I replaced the front cover on my gearbox a few years ago with one with a seal.? Works great, no leaks.? I think I bought it from Jeff at Winners Circle. > On Jun 2, 2023, at 5:53 PM, brian via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Does anyone have a suggestion for good baulk rings for a ribcase? 2 out of three I got from Moss work just fine, one does not. I'm also considering replacing the front cover with one with an oil seal. Does anyone have experience with that? > > Thanks, > Brian > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets? http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets? http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck55 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daredelvis at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 20:32:35 2023 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 19:32:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib case baulk ring In-Reply-To: <2043720350.521923.1685749014806@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2043720350.521923.1685749014806@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had checked them a while ago and they were out of the good baulk rings, but I see they have them now. That's a good price on the cover too. Already ordered. I was getting bored, and needed to take something apart. Thanks, Brian On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 4:57?PM AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via Spridgets wrote: > Brian! > Winners circle ! 100%! > Send your cover and it will get machined and returned with a seal > installed! > Chuck > > On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 07:12:31 PM EDT, Rick Fisk via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I replaced the front cover on my gearbox a few years ago with one with a > seal. Works great, no leaks. I think I bought it from Jeff at Winners > Circle. > > > On Jun 2, 2023, at 5:53 PM, brian via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ? > > Does anyone have a suggestion for good baulk rings for a ribcase? 2 out > of three I got from Moss work just fine, one does not. I'm also considering > replacing the front cover with one with an oil seal. Does anyone have > experience with that? > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck55 at aol.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/daredelvis at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This year's featured Marque are Sprites and Midgets.? I plan on bringing SMRS posters, stickers and baseball hats to sell.? Please let me know if you are interested and maybe we can park together if we are lucky.? This is a great show at the impressive Gillmore Museum North of Kalamazoo, MI with over 350 Brit Cars.? We are going to promote a mini car show for Grattan race. Here is the link for registration:http://maddogsandenglishmen.org/mde/registration.cfm Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is a great show at the impressive Gillmore Museum North of Kalamazoo, MI with over 350 Brit Cars.? We are going to promote a mini car show for Grattan race. Here is the link for registration:http://maddogsandenglishmen.org/mde/registration.cfm Stan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lmacy at mac.com Mon Jun 19 11:33:29 2023 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:33:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension Message-ID: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> ?Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. Thanks Larry Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone From lmacy at mac.com Mon Jun 19 11:33:47 2023 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:33:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension Message-ID: ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 152025 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- That sucker Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2023, at 1:28?PM, Larry Macy wrote: > > ?Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. > > Thanks > Larry > > Sent from my iPhone From stanbmason at aol.com Mon Jun 19 11:49:00 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] SMRS 3rd Race Waterford Hills In-Reply-To: <005401d99aea$29ebe310$7dc3a930$@gmail.com> References: <005401d99aea$29ebe310$7dc3a930$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1986465053.1549181.1687196940271@mail.yahoo.com> Spridget Racers, We have a best 2 out of 4 race this year with the Sprite Midget Race Series.? Waterford Hills was added this year for the first time.? I am unable to attend and Don Kelly will lead the charge.? Don has prepared an overview, which can be seen below.? Please contact Don if you have any additional questions.? This should be a great turn out. Stan Mason The Sprite Midget Race Series heads to Waterford Hills Vintage Road Races in Clarkston Michigan July 21 ? 23, 2023. The 3rd stop of the 4 race Series. They will have a bonus feature race for all Sprites and Midgets at no extra charge to the $425 entry fee. It is rumored that the track was designed in the 1950?s by a future Bugeye racer. This is a 1.5 mile track with some elevation changes. The fastest cars hit over 120 mph on the back straight just before heavy braking to make a 90 degree right-hand turn. With one corner speed as low 25mph and another at 80mph, there's a lot of acceleration and braking every lap. ?There is currently a plan to have a large tent to house several Spridgets in the camping area outside of Turn 6. Stand by for confirmation. We will hold our traditional SMRS Lunch with brats and sides for our crews, visitors, and drivers. At this time, I am looking for cooks and people to handle the lunch affair. Set up, take down and cooks are needed.? Please contact Don Kelly at 231-715-0923 or devildogracing9 at gmail to volunteer. ?Registration is open and may be found on MotorSportReg.com. You will find track info and event schedule there. They have included Vintage Vehicle Regulations and Vintage Drive Safety info on the registration page. It covers everything you need to know to have a fun, safe, and successful weekend of racing. Register your car in ?Race Grid 3?. Your charge card will not be charged the entry fee until you register at the track so sign up now!?Some notable information on the MotorSportsReg.com webpage includes, paddock standard operating procedures (only 1 support vehicle allowed), first timer track familiarization on Thursday night, tent-paddock spots, track facilities and camping. WaterfordHills.com also has good info. Open the Fans drop down menu and click on Facility Info to get more familiar with Waterford Hills Road Racing. ?You will not be disappointed racing here. ? ?Don Kelly DriverDevil Dog Racing231-499-5159DevilDogRacing9 at gmail.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Mon Jun 19 11:50:29 2023 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] SMRS 3rd Race Waterford Hills In-Reply-To: <1986465053.1549181.1687196940271@mail.yahoo.com> References: <005401d99aea$29ebe310$7dc3a930$@gmail.com> <1986465053.1549181.1687196940271@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <118351109.1568259.1687197029064@mail.yahoo.com> Spridget Racers, We have a best 2 out of 4 race this year with the Sprite Midget Race Series.? Waterford Hills was added this year for the first time.? I am unable to attend and Don Kelly will lead the charge.? Don has prepared an overview, which can be seen below.? Please contact Don if you have any additional questions.? This should be a great turn out. Stan Mason The Sprite Midget Race Series heads to Waterford Hills Vintage Road Races in Clarkston Michigan July 21 ? 23, 2023. The 3rd stop of the 4 race Series. They will have a bonus feature race for all Sprites and Midgets at no extra charge to the $425 entry fee. It is rumored that the track was designed in the 1950?s by a future Bugeye racer. This is a 1.5 mile track with some elevation changes. The fastest cars hit over 120 mph on the back straight just before heavy braking to make a 90 degree right-hand turn. With one corner speed as low 25mph and another at 80mph, there's a lot of acceleration and braking every lap. ?There is currently a plan to have a large tent to house several Spridgets in the camping area outside of Turn 6. Stand by for confirmation. We will hold our traditional SMRS Lunch with brats and sides for our crews, visitors, and drivers. At this time, I am looking for cooks and people to handle the lunch affair. Set up, take down and cooks are needed.? Please contact Don Kelly at 231-715-0923 or devildogracing9 at gmail to volunteer. ?Registration is open and may be found on MotorSportReg.com. You will find track info and event schedule there. They have included Vintage Vehicle Regulations and Vintage Drive Safety info on the registration page. It covers everything you need to know to have a fun, safe, and successful weekend of racing. Register your car in ?Race Grid 3?. Your charge card will not be charged the entry fee until you register at the track so sign up now!?Some notable information on the MotorSportsReg.com webpage includes, paddock standard operating procedures (only 1 support vehicle allowed), first timer track familiarization on Thursday night, tent-paddock spots, track facilities and camping. WaterfordHills.com also has good info. Open the Fans drop down menu and click on Facility Info to get more familiar with Waterford Hills Road Racing. ?You will not be disappointed racing here. ? ?Don Kelly DriverDevil Dog Racing231-499-5159DevilDogRacing9 at gmail.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From weslake1330 at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 15:12:47 2023 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 22:12:47 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you will need to cut the bolt either side of the trunnion and then work it over in a vice. Penetrating oil (not WD40) and heat and repeat, might work. I guess the PO didn't use copper slip. Someone remind me in 6 months time that one of my retirement projects was to get these bolts made in stainless steel or TI. Don't worry, I'll be paying a personal visit to Samco Silicone hoses (almost put hoes (silicone hoes . . .)) before then. Regards Daniel On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 19:08, Larry Macy via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > That sucker > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 19, 2023, at 1:28?PM, Larry Macy wrote: > > > > ?Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of > the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp > bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. > > > > Thanks > > Larry > > > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslake1330 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Mon Jun 19 16:13:21 2023 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 18:13:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> References: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> Message-ID: I agree with Daniel. I would heat the nut and then soak the bolt threads with penetrating oil (Liquid Wrench) a few times a day, put a wrench on it and tap it with a hammer while hot, don't slam it though, don't want to break the bolt. It will eventually come off. I used to have a tool the you put a socket on and when you hit it with a hammer it rotated the socket just a bit. Can't remember what it was called though. On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 1:56 PM Larry Macy via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of > the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp > bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. > > Thanks > Larry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan at jimryan.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kristi74midget at comcast.net Mon Jun 19 16:59:56 2023 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Midget Mail) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 18:59:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Larry! In-Reply-To: <1154007565.2124829.1687211568572@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1154007565.2124829.1687211568572.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1154007565.2124829.1687211568572@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Chuck, Thanks but we broke the bolt and had to go steal the shocks off the other midget that I am getting rid of. Lambert Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget '71 Morris 1100 MK 2 Philadelphia MG Club Treasurer Brits at the Village Coordinator Check out Philadelphia MG Club on Facebook ?It is good to have an end to a journey ? But it is the journey that matters in the end.? ~ Ursula K. Leguin > On Jun 19, 2023, at 5:52 PM, AOL Mail Update (Terms & Policy) via Spridgets wrote: > > Take the shock off the body & the nut off the king pin. Slip the whole assembly off & come over! > We can disassemble it AND IF we ( ok I know that means if "I" break the bolt) destroy the bolt in the shock arm , I have shocks and all the rest of those parts here! Simply send along the replacements and back together! > Chuck. > Ohhhh...I have some of that stuff! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kristi74midget at comcast.net From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jun 19 17:15:19 2023 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 00:15:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: References: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> Message-ID: <134517c7.5210.188d5f0f8ef.Webtop.118@btinternet.com> Try an 'Impact Driver'. Mostly people now know them as powered tools but the original tool is still on the shelves. I've known them be called 'Impact Texas Driver' but being a UK person.... Amazon, Toolstation and Screwfix all sell them. Also, a very useful tool when removing the rear brake drum when the DPO has put the retaining screw in too tight! Stay well, Guy R Day ------ Original Message ------ From: "Jim Ryan via Spridgets" To: "Larry Macy" Cc: "Spridgets net" Sent: Monday, 19 Jun, 23 At 23:13 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension I agree with Daniel. I would heat the nut and then soak the bolt threads with penetrating oil (Liquid Wrench) a few times a day, put a wrench on it and tap it with a hammer while hot, don't slam it though, don't want to break the bolt. It will eventually come off. I used to have a tool the you put a socket on and when you hit it with a hammer it rotated the socket just a bit. Can't remember what it was called though. On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 1:56 PM Larry Macy via Spridgets > wrote: Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. Thanks Larry Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan at jimryan.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, a very useful tool when removing the rear brake drum when the DPO has put the retaining screw in too tight! > > Stay well, > > Guy R Day > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jim Ryan via Spridgets" > To: "Larry Macy" > Cc: "Spridgets net" > Sent: Monday, 19 Jun, 23 At 23:13 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension > > I agree with Daniel. I would heat the nut and then soak the bolt threads with penetrating oil (Liquid Wrench) a few times a day, put a wrench on it and tap it with a hammer while hot, don't slam it though, don't want to break the bolt. It will eventually come off. > > I used to have a tool the you put a socket on and when you hit it with a hammer it rotated the socket just a bit. Can't remember what it was called though. > >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 1:56 PM Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: >> Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. >> >> Thanks >> Larry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan at jimryan.com >> > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Mon Jun 19 17:54:05 2023 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: References: <134517c7.5210.188d5f0f8ef.Webtop.118@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Right, I had to use it with a large phillips bit to break the door hinge loose on my BJ8. I really need a memory transplant. Anyway, in my experience patience is your friend here. Heat, spray, tap every few hours. If it's after 5pm Heat, spray, tap, sip.... On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 7:32?PM Ryan wrote: > That is called an impact driver. Friend has one he got at horrible freight > for $5. > > Also another friend said that propane may not be hot enough. Try MAP gas > or find someone with oxy acetylene. > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 19, 2023, at 7:17 PM, GUY DAY via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > Try an 'Impact Driver'. Mostly people now know them as powered tools but > the original tool is still on the shelves. I've known them be called > 'Impact Texas Driver' but being a UK person.... Amazon, Toolstation and > Screwfix all sell them. Also, a very useful tool when removing the rear > brake drum when the DPO has put the retaining screw in too tight! > > > Stay well, > > > Guy R Day > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jim Ryan via Spridgets" > To: "Larry Macy" > Cc: "Spridgets net" > Sent: Monday, 19 Jun, 23 At 23:13 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension > > I agree with Daniel. I would heat the nut and then soak the bolt threads > with penetrating oil (Liquid Wrench) a few times a day, put a wrench on it > and tap it with a hammer while hot, don't slam it though, don't want to > break the bolt. It will eventually come off. > > I used to have a tool the you put a socket on and when you hit it with a > hammer it rotated the socket just a bit. Can't remember what it was called > though. > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 1:56 PM Larry Macy via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of >> the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp >> bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. >> >> Thanks >> Larry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan at jimryan.com >> > ------------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lmacy at mac.com Mon Jun 19 18:18:03 2023 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 20:18:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: References: <134517c7.5210.188d5f0f8ef.Webtop.118@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <8353983B-E2CA-47EF-9DD8-942C374E4081@mac.com> Had one before I sold and gave away all my tools. It?s my son in laws? Midget. I get to work and drive occasionally, never really left, just didn?t have my own car. Tried heat, repeatedly, tried cooling with PB Blaster, tried more heat. Got impatientused and impact wrench and impacted it, and broke the bolt on both sides. Fortunately, he has a parts car and we pulled the shocks off of that. The bolts on those do not look frozen. :-) Larry > On Jun 19, 2023, at 7:54?PM, Jim Ryan wrote: > > Right, I had to use it with a large phillips bit to break the door hinge loose on my BJ8. I really need a memory transplant. Anyway, in my experience patience is your friend here. Heat, spray, tap every few hours. If it's after 5pm Heat, spray, tap, sip.... > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 7:32?PM Ryan > wrote: >> That is called an impact driver. Friend has one he got at horrible freight for $5. >> >> Also another friend said that propane may not be hot enough. Try MAP gas or find someone with oxy acetylene. >> Ryan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 19, 2023, at 7:17 PM, GUY DAY via Spridgets > wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Try an 'Impact Driver'. Mostly people now know them as powered tools but the original tool is still on the shelves. I've known them be called 'Impact Texas Driver' but being a UK person.... Amazon, Toolstation and Screwfix all sell them. Also, a very useful tool when removing the rear brake drum when the DPO has put the retaining screw in too tight! >>> >>> >>> Stay well, >>> >>> >>> >>> Guy R Day >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Jim Ryan via Spridgets" > >>> To: "Larry Macy" > >>> Cc: "Spridgets net" > >>> Sent: Monday, 19 Jun, 23 At 23:13 >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension >>> >>> I agree with Daniel. I would heat the nut and then soak the bolt threads with penetrating oil (Liquid Wrench) a few times a day, put a wrench on it and tap it with a hammer while hot, don't slam it though, don't want to break the bolt. It will eventually come off. >>> >>> I used to have a tool the you put a socket on and when you hit it with a hammer it rotated the socket just a bit. Can't remember what it was called though. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 1:56 PM Larry Macy via Spridgets > wrote: >>>> Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Larry >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> spridgets at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan at jimryan.com >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > > -- > Jim Ryan > > ???? > ? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at mac.com ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just give up.? ~Stephen Hawking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 11:44:24 2023 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:44:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> References: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> Message-ID: The tool that many are mentioning is called a "hand impact" tool around here. Well worth their humble price! An old mechanic gave me some good advice many years ago on the subject. He said to give it a good face on smack with a decent hammer to try to break the rust/corrosion bond and afterward give it a go with the wrench, trying to tighten it, as any movement would further break the bond that has formed. Apply your favorite penetrating oil and work it back and forth a little at a time. I have used this method several times with success. YMMV On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:02?PM Larry Macy via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of > the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp > bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. > > Thanks > Larry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2017 Home built shed full of excess spridget parts!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 17:59:28 2023 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 19:59:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> References: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> Message-ID: Bolt has gas a groove cut in it that another bolt goes through. The long bolt Cannot be removed until the other one is removed. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2023, at 1:33 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > > ?Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. > > Thanks > Larry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Sent from my iPhone From kvacek at ameritech.net Thu Jun 22 17:52:01 2023 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:52:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system In-Reply-To: References: <3CECE13B-CF67-4CEF-A87A-0CB52FBD29EB@mac.com> Message-ID: <188e585a4e8.2805.628209e05bb0b52e589ab28ea686a7f9@ameritech.net> We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners. About 17,000 miles, very original. Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm renewing everything in preparation for selling it. It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff. Which is all there and everything I've checked is working. We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as month, just putting in the cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming the wrong size battery between the heater and the firewall. It's always seemed to lose fuel pump prime and needed lots of cranking for the first start after sitting a day or two. I only just now finally replaced each and every hose in the system (not the evap circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap tank line. Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from the pump, and off the car it seemed dead. Soooo - I bought a good new fuel pump, the one with the infinitely clockable top, which also actually has a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the car. Pump seems to suck but it's still not pulling fuel though the line from the tank even after getting some fuel in the lines and running the engine a few minutes on direct fuel to the carb. I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove the feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare wrenches, Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers wrench can't turn the fitting either. Not to the cave man stage yet - this is a very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or etc. I want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - blowing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive. I'm working alone and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it should. Aside from cutting the line off (really original car that we want to sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm stuck. I can't really drop the tank (to fill it with water and have at the fitting with serious heat) without destroying the original fuel line. What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably leading down from the bulkhead fitting to the bottom. No in-tank filter that I see in the parts books. My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a camera in there tomorrow. Any other suggestions ? Thanks! Karl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would be tempted to call Peter for a new rebuilt damper and replace the trunnion with another. > On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:29 PM, Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > > > > That sucker > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 19, 2023, at 1:28?PM, Larry Macy wrote: >> >> ?Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. >> >> Thanks >> Larry >> >> Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From ra_hill at icloud.com Fri Jun 23 15:14:37 2023 From: ra_hill at icloud.com (Rich Hill) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 17:14:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system In-Reply-To: <188e585a4e8.2805.628209e05bb0b52e589ab28ea686a7f9@ameritech.net> References: <188e585a4e8.2805.628209e05bb0b52e589ab28ea686a7f9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <7089F124-A920-4CCD-BB0F-4CEEF2C7D3DA@icloud.com> There?s a section of plastic tubing on the side of the transmission. Make sure that?s OK. Although if you?ve replaced all the hoses, you?ve probably done that one. Rich ?79 Midget ?58 Sprite > On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek wrote: > ? > We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners. About 17,000 miles, very original. Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm renewing everything in preparation for selling it. > > It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff. Which is all there and everything I've checked is working. > > We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as month, just putting in the cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming the wrong size battery between the heater and the firewall. It's always seemed to lose fuel pump prime and needed lots of cranking for the first start after sitting a day or two. I only just now finally replaced each and every hose in the system (not the evap circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap tank line. > > Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from the pump, and off the car it seemed dead. Soooo - I bought a good new fuel pump, the one with the infinitely clockable top, which also actually has a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the car. Pump seems to suck but it's still not pulling fuel though the line from the tank even after getting some fuel in the lines and running the engine a few minutes on direct fuel to the carb. > > I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove the feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare wrenches, Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers wrench can't turn the fitting either. Not to the cave man stage yet - this is a very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or etc. > > I want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - blowing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive. I'm working alone and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it should. > > Aside from cutting the line off (really original car that we want to sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm stuck. I can't really drop the tank (to fill it with water and have at the fitting with serious heat) without destroying the original fuel line. > > What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably leading down from the bulkhead fitting to the bottom. No in-tank filter that I see in the parts books. > > My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a camera in there tomorrow. > > Any other suggestions ? > > Thanks! > Karl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From KVacek at Ameritech.net Fri Jun 23 16:55:39 2023 From: KVacek at Ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 17:55:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system In-Reply-To: <7089F124-A920-4CCD-BB0F-4CEEF2C7D3DA@icloud.com> References: <188e585a4e8.2805.628209e05bb0b52e589ab28ea686a7f9@ameritech.net> <7089F124-A920-4CCD-BB0F-4CEEF2C7D3DA@icloud.com> Message-ID: <002901d9a625$d55cf4a0$8016dde0$@Ameritech.net> Sure did. It?s a hose between two steel tubes on this car. I?ve suspected for years that there was a little leak in one of the (5? 6?) little hoses in the fuel line, so I once again changed them all. I put a camera into the tank through the filler hole on the top of the tank. The inlet tube is part of the fuel sending unit on this car, and there?s what looks for all the world like a white nylon mesh filter with a plastic cage around the inlet tube, as part of the fuel sending unit. Nothing like that in any parts books, not even the BMIHT CD parts book. This is a California-emissions 1978 car. Not the first thing that?s different from the parts books, Moss, etc. But it?s all okay and air blew through beautifully after I had the tank open to look. And now there?s fuel flow to the pump. I don?t know ? I didn?t change anything, just looked in there and put the same air hose onto the fuel line as I?d done a couple of times before. FM Principle Thanks for the info !!! Karl From: Rich Hill [mailto:ra_hill at icloud.com] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 4:15 PM To: Karl Vacek Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system There?s a section of plastic tubing on the side of the transmission. Make sure that?s OK. Although if you?ve replaced all the hoses, you?ve probably done that one. Rich ?79 Midget ?58 Sprite On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek wrote: ? We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners. About 17,000 miles, very original. Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm renewing everything in preparation for selling it. It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff. Which is all there and everything I've checked is working. We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as month, just putting in the cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming the wrong size battery between the heater and the firewall. It's always seemed to lose fuel pump prime and needed lots of cranking for the first start after sitting a day or two. I only just now finally replaced each and every hose in the system (not the evap circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap tank line. Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from the pump, and off the car it seemed dead. Soooo - I bought a good new fuel pump, the one with the infinitely clockable top, which also actually has a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the car. Pump seems to suck but it's still not pulling fuel though the line from the tank even after getting some fuel in the lines and running the engine a few minutes on direct fuel to the carb. I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove the feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare wrenches, Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers wrench can't turn the fitting either. Not to the cave man stage yet - this is a very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or etc. I want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - blowing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive. I'm working alone and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it should. Aside from cutting the line off (really original car that we want to sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm stuck. I can't really drop the tank (to fill it with water and have at the fitting with serious heat) without destroying the original fuel line. What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably leading down from the bulkhead fitting to the bottom. No in-tank filter that I see in the parts books. My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a camera in there tomorrow. Any other suggestions ? Thanks! Karl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 24 02:04:29 2023 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 09:04:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system In-Reply-To: <002901d9a625$d55cf4a0$8016dde0$@Ameritech.net> References: <188e585a4e8.2805.628209e05bb0b52e589ab28ea686a7f9@ameritech.net> <7089F124-A920-4CCD-BB0F-4CEEF2C7D3DA@icloud.com> <002901d9a625$d55cf4a0$8016dde0$@Ameritech.net> Message-ID: <1d861e1.6a6b.188ec6ee144.Webtop.97@btinternet.com> Karl, This is a fine mesh original filter on the inside end of the fuel tank exit pipe. It can get clogged with dirt or sufficiently clogged so as to restrict the fuel flow. It is part of the fuel tank and is not designed to be accessed by the user and/or the garage service mechanic. However, modern technology (cameras on the end of wiggly sticks) let you see it. Cleaning the gunge collected over decades is normally a reverse blow through the fuel pipe but using a 150psi air line can destroy the filter so start off low! You can never tell if you have cleaned it properly or what type of gunge was blocking it so deliberately destroying it was not unknown, especially after trying a couple of times to clear a blocked system. Pushing a stiff length of wire through the filter was a common way of destroying it. I've not known anyone replace an in-tank filter but have known those who destroy it put an in-line fuel filter in the system, usually close to the engine to make it accessible. Stay well, Guy R Day ------ Original Message ------ From: "Karl Vacek via Spridgets" To: "'Rich Hill'" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Friday, 23 Jun, 23 At 23:55 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system Sure did. It?s a hose between two steel tubes on this car. I?ve suspected for years that there was a little leak in one of the (5? 6?) little hoses in the fuel line, so I once again changed them all. I put a camera into the tank through the filler hole on the top of the tank. The inlet tube is part of the fuel sending unit on this car, and there?s what looks for all the world like a white nylon mesh filter with a plastic cage around the inlet tube, as part of the fuel sending unit. Nothing like that in any parts books, not even the BMIHT CD parts book. This is a California-emissions 1978 car. Not the first thing that?s different from the parts books, Moss, etc. But it?s all okay and air blew through beautifully after I had the tank open to look. And now there?s fuel flow to the pump. I don?t know ? I didn?t change anything, just looked in there and put the same air hose onto the fuel line as I?d done a couple of times before. FM Principle Thanks for the info !!! Karl From: Rich Hill [mailto:ra_hill at icloud.com] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 4:15 PM To: Karl Vacek Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system There?s a section of plastic tubing on the side of the transmission. Make sure that?s OK. Although if you?ve replaced all the hoses, you?ve probably done that one. Rich ?79 Midget ?58 Sprite On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek > wrote: ? We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners. About 17,000 miles, very original. Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm renewing everything in preparation for selling it. It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff. Which is all there and everything I've checked is working. We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as month, just putting in the cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming the wrong size battery between the heater and the firewall. It's always seemed to lose fuel pump prime and needed lots of cranking for the first start after sitting a day or two. I only just now finally replaced each and every hose in the system (not the evap circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap tank line. Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from the pump, and off the car it seemed dead. Soooo - I bought a good new fuel pump, the one with the infinitely clockable top, which also actually has a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the car. Pump seems to suck but it's still not pulling fuel though the line from the tank even after getting some fuel in the lines and running the engine a few minutes on direct fuel to the carb. I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove the feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare wrenches, Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers wrench can't turn the fitting either. Not to the cave man stage yet - this is a very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or etc. I want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - blowing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive. I'm working alone and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it should. Aside from cutting the line off (really original car that we want to sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm stuck. I can't really drop the tank (to fill it with water and have at the fitting with serious heat) without destroying the original fuel line. What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably leading down from the bulkhead fitting to the bottom. No in-tank filter that I see in the parts books. My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a camera in there tomorrow. Any other suggestions ? Thanks! 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URL: From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 14:15:16 2023 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:15:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MidgetFront suspension In-Reply-To: <033FEE53-DA3D-4584-BA75-FAC94339691F@chartermi.net> References: <033FEE53-DA3D-4584-BA75-FAC94339691F@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <8DCE4FE7-5529-43A4-92C3-57F240DF3855@yahoo.com> Rick is right, call Peter on Monday. Heat may cause it to become brittle and could fail while driving. Especially if subjected to track use! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > > ?Yikes, that stuff is pretty crusty. I would be tempted to call Peter for a new rebuilt damper and replace the trunnion with another. > >> On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:29 PM, Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: >> >> ? >> >> >> >> That sucker >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 19, 2023, at 1:28?PM, Larry Macy wrote: >>> >>> ?Any one have a secret for getting the stupid 1/2 inch clamp bolt out of the top of the suspension? Trying to install new bushings and the clamp bolt is stuck in the shock arm end. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Larry >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > > From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 16:57:31 2023 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] SMRS 3rd Race Waterford Hills In-Reply-To: References: <005401d99aea$29ebe310$7dc3a930$@gmail.com> <1986465053.1549181.1687196940271@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <345577325.1583706.1687820251015@mail.yahoo.com> I'm in. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12:46 PM, Don Kelly wrote: Happy Saturday,?I'd like you to let me know if you plan to race at Waterford in July by replying?to this email. Thank you. We need a field of Spridgets to get the tent and exclusive race. If you are?interested and undecided let me know that.Don Kelly? On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 1:49 PM wrote: Spridget Racers, We have a best 2 out of 4 race this year with the Sprite Midget Race Series.? Waterford Hills was added this year for the first time.? I am unable to attend and Don Kelly will lead the charge.? Don has prepared an overview, which can be seen below.? Please contact Don if you have any additional questions.? This should be a great turn out. Stan Mason The Sprite Midget Race Series heads to Waterford Hills Vintage Road Races in Clarkston Michigan July 21 ? 23, 2023. The 3rd stop of the 4 race Series. They will have a bonus feature race for all Sprites and Midgets at no extra charge to the $425 entry fee. It is rumored that the track was designed in the 1950?s by a future Bugeye racer. This is a 1.5 mile track with some elevation changes. The fastest cars hit over 120 mph on the back straight just before heavy braking to make a 90 degree right-hand turn. With one corner speed as low 25mph and another at 80mph, there's a lot of acceleration and braking every lap. ?There is currently a plan to have a large tent to house several Spridgets in the camping area outside of Turn 6. Stand by for confirmation. We will hold our traditional SMRS Lunch with brats and sides for our crews, visitors, and drivers. At this time, I am looking for cooks and people to handle the lunch affair. Set up, take down and cooks are needed.? Please contact Don Kelly at 231-715-0923 or devildogracing9 at gmail to volunteer. ?Registration is open and may be found on MotorSportReg.com. You will find track info and event schedule there. They have included Vintage Vehicle Regulations and Vintage Drive Safety info on the registration page. It covers everything you need to know to have a fun, safe, and successful weekend of racing. Register your car in ?Race Grid 3?. Your charge card will not be charged the entry fee until you register at the track so sign up now!?Some notable information on the MotorSportsReg.com webpage includes, paddock standard operating procedures (only 1 support vehicle allowed), first timer track familiarization on Thursday night, tent-paddock spots, track facilities and camping. WaterfordHills.com also has good info. Open the Fans drop down menu and click on Facility Info to get more familiar with Waterford Hills Road Racing. ?You will not be disappointed racing here. ? ?Don Kelly DriverDevil Dog Racing231-499-5159DevilDogRacing9 at gmail.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also just for the first time checked the timing. It's a Lucas Lumention system - apparently a factory recall replacing the original electronig ignition. The first owner seems to have done all his own work. I see about 20 degrees of initial advance (BTDC) at idle, book and label says 2 degrees ATDC and the vacuum advance or retard or whatever doesn't seem to do anything. It gets vacuum. Can anyone point me to a comprehensive (and without the CO meter that the shop manual wants me to have) discussion of the back alley way to adjust a Stromberg CD-150 with all emission equipment in operation? And maybe a clue on the Lumenition system? I can adjust to get a neutral response to slightly lifting the carb piston. Then I've read that you're supposed to turn the large nylon nut on the right of the carb, and finer adjustment through the brass screw that runs into that nut. Seems to lean when turned out as someone said it should. Thanks! 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The attached results are the accumulation of the past 2 races after Blackhawk. I want to thank Rick Fisk for picking up the responsibility of compiling results. Next series race is at Waterford Hills with Don Kelly taking the lead. Looks like a good turnout. Happy 4th! Stan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: