From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  2 10:51:05 2021
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:51:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Like old times!
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My Aunt's name is on the side of #73.
She was part of the Ring Free All Girls Team for Sebring in 1970
I Wanted to buy them year's ago, when the 2 were priced at about 100k for the pair.
Didn't have that kind of $$.
Now, that's a down payment...sigh

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.!

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From: Spridgets <spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 7:29 AM
To: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Like old times!

The Sprites Rick mentions:

[cid:d7d6f8c0-33e7-41ef-a8d2-4f33e12ee12b at namprd13.prod.outlook.com]

Ron Soave

> On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:03 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>
> ?It was great to meet Howard and get lapped by Ron (again).  We had two factory Sprite race cars with fuel injected A-series engines with 8 port heads brought up from Texas to take part in the festivities.  We had a great turnout of Sprites and Midgets and a good time!
>
> Rick
>
>> On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Howard Collins made it out from Virginia Beach to Grattan Raceway in Michigan this weekend to watch the VSCDA vintage races along with the 10th anniversary of our Spridget race series. What a great pleasure to meet a 20+ year list mate, and looking forward to other opportunities to hang out. In the past this list had many such meet-ups, and it was great to do it again. We put on a pretty good show, thankfully!  Great weekend!!
>>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Sep  2 11:27:23 2021
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 13:27:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Like old times!
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Cool!

> On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:51 PM, brian S via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> My Aunt's name is on the side of #73. 
> She was part of the Ring Free All Girls Team for Sebring in 1970
> I Wanted to buy them year's ago, when the 2 were priced at about 100k for the pair.
> Didn't have that kind of $$.
> Now, that's a down payment...sigh
> 
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.!
> 
> From: Spridgets <spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 7:29 AM
> To: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
> Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Like old times!
>  
> The Sprites Rick mentions:
> 
> <image0.jpeg>
> 
> Ron Soave
> 
> > On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:03 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> > 
> > ?It was great to meet Howard and get lapped by Ron (again).  We had two factory Sprite race cars with fuel injected A-series engines with 8 port heads brought up from Texas to take part in the festivities.  We had a great turnout of Sprites and Midgets and a good time!
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> >> On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> ?Howard Collins made it out from Virginia Beach to Grattan Raceway in Michigan this weekend to watch the VSCDA vintage races along with the 10th anniversary of our Spridget race series. What a great pleasure to meet a 20+ year list mate, and looking forward to other opportunities to hang out. In the past this list had many such meet-ups, and it was great to do it again. We put on a pretty good show, thankfully!  Great weekend!!
> >> 
> >> Ron Soave
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 06:48:37 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 13:48:37 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1VptE_fbFLsHEJwuJ7ZNKOo_rV23FdgCb34g-eAb_9LrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List,

I've been working my way through the youtuber 'Towtrucker'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5yMAL6Vqag

And I now understand the stuff that listers have said about residents
associations and stuff in years gone by (a vintage junker is still a junker
to them!).  I hadn't appreciated that some Americans live on what I'd call
working class private gated communities.  We don't have anything like that
in the UK that I can think of.

What I'm less clear about is tags and titles.  So the tag is what I'd call
the number plate and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it or
that it has passed annual inspection?  Each state has its own tags and if
you move your car permanently from one state to another you have to
re-register it?  You can pick your own numbers and letters?

The title is some sort of certificate of ownership?

Have I got that correct?

Here in the UK you have a document of vehicle registration which has your
name and address on it and the details of the vehicle, including the
registration number it was given when purchased new.  The only rules are
that pre 1973 vehicles can have white letters on a black background front
and year.  Later cars have a kind of reflective white on the front with
black letters and a kind of reflective yellow on the rear with black
letters.  You can't make up your own number but can buy an unused number
from a dealer or the UK licensing body - a private plate / cherised
number.  People like a short number with their initials.  In the 70s TV
series 'The Persuaders'  Brett Sinclair had the reg BS1 on his Aston-Martin
DBS.  But in really life that reg was only loaned to the TV company for
filming as Billy Smart (of the circus) owned that number.

Porsche UK once lent me a 911 Tiptronic press car (no story from that long
weekend made it into my book of funny short stories or even truth presented
as fiction in one of my fiction stories!) and it had the reg   A 911.  At
that time (almost 30 years ago now) that registration number was not for
sale but was estimated to be worth ?20K+  Some numbers at that time would
sell for a lot more but many for a lot, lot less.

Regards


Daniel
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From ddoiron at cox.net  Mon Sep  6 00:10:07 2021
From: ddoiron at cox.net (David Doiron)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 23:10:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plates, Tags, Registrations, and Titles
Message-ID: <1650506429.456434.1630908607057@myemail.cox.net>

Dear Daniel, 
Depends on the state. 

All states have plates. They used to be dated for a single year and 
had to be replaced annually. Occasionally the plate design would change 
as well. 

Then they started making undated plates. Law enforcement would know if 
the plate was current by: a sticker on the plate (some states) or a 
sticker on the windscreen (called "Tags" and primarily used in the 
Eastern states, not used in the Western states) (the term "Tags" is 
sometimes used by Easterners to refer to plates. 
Not done in the West)

Title is a paper that indicates car ownership. Some states do not use 
titles once a car reaches a certain age. I know Indiana as one case.

You did not mention Registration, but all states require some form. 
It can be for just one or for multiple years. It is primarily a tax. 
States used to require that the registration be visible to law 
enforcement looking in the drivers window. Common methods were little 
plastic cases that were strapped to the steering column or to the 
sunscreen. 
The collapse of civilization ended that practice. Crooks would get the 
address off the registration then go burglarize your home...
The simple tax disc is a much more elegant system.

Safety and/or smog inspections are another whole different can of worms.
Amicalement,
W David & Diane Doiron

From Zormecteon at comcast.net  Mon Sep  6 00:26:19 2021
From: Zormecteon at comcast.net (Bill L.)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 23:26:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
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Hello Weslake1330,


Every state has different rules about "number plates" ... In the U.S. we call the license plates... They have stickers that expire yearly (in most cases.. I'll get to that). Those are called the tags. When you renew you get a new registration certificate. This is separate from the title (which proves ownership). .. Title goes with the car, and the new owner will get a new title when he registers the vehicle. At that time he will get new plates. .. 

Different states, different inspections or none at all. .. mostly none at all but some do have tests to make sure that they meet pollution requirements... others don't..

In most states you can pay more to get a plate of your own choosing, as long as someone else hasn't already claimed the one you want... .. These are called vanity plates. and usually restricted to 7 characters or fewer. There may be some that are the same but not from the same state... (I was thinking of getting one .... LCNSPL8... it's not taken in the state of Washington .. but I digress.. 

Also in some if not most states are "collector car plates) .. and "Horseless carriage" plates... these are one time cost plates. and do not have yearly tags... .. collector car plates are for cars older than 25 years  and there are restrictions on the use of the car..-- to and from.. and in parades.. and limited pleasure and test purpose driving--.  .. also for cars older than 25 years.. if you can find a plate with tags from the year the car was made, you can use that, again for a one time fee with limited use restrictions... 

When the police pull you over they want to see the registration.  which proves the car is yours and the taxes have been paid for the year, but  .. you keep the title safe at home. ..and that is what gets transferred when you sell the car or move to another state. .. kinda like the deed to a house... you sign away the title. 

Hope that helps... 





-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:Zormecteon at comcast.net


Look at the docs? Nah, nurses are much better looking 


From kentmclean at comcast.net  Mon Sep  6 03:59:25 2021
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 05:59:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
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Weslake1330 wrote:
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate

Correct. Also called a license plate.

> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it

It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation with representation.

> or that it has passed annual inspection?  

That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depending on where you live.

The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)

Kent 
'56 100
'60 Sprite

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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep  6 11:37:25 2021
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 13:37:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
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References: <13F642B9-8386-40EA-B0B2-5EB47E63D24A@comcast.net>
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Hi Daniel.

A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-)  

In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life, as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays with the car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used.  In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets transferred from car to car.  You can also get a new license plate here whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.

Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you could literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outside because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our pollution blow over to Canada and New York.  

Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have the same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to be able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than providing an income source for the state and the inspection station operators.

One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone back away from the scene of a crime?  

Rick

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Weslake1330 wrote:
>> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
> 
> Correct. Also called a license plate.
> 
>> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
>> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
> 
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation with representation.
> 
>> or that it has passed annual inspection?  
> 
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depending on where you live.
> 
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
> 
> Kent 
> '56 100
> '60 Sprite
> 
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  6 11:43:59 2021
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 10:43:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
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The USA is a federation if individual states, and each state makes it?s own laws regarding motor vehicles. 

From healeyrik at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 12:20:33 2021
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 14:20:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <E2E6331A-FC2D-42BB-AAEA-8BE183AB7300@chartermi.net>
References: <13F642B9-8386-40EA-B0B2-5EB47E63D24A@comcast.net>
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Hi Daniel,

Some more info.

There is no real open market on low-digit or specialty numbers as in the
UK.  In some states, you can pass your number plate on to relatives or by
will.  When a low-digit plate owner dies or turns his plate back into the
department of motor vehicles, some states will hold an auction or lottery
so that people can try to get it
https://www.fosters.com/article/20050816/news0103/108160014

Most states will allow you to purchase a "vanity" or "personalized" plate
with letters or numbers you specify:  Then the states need to hire workers
to make sure people don't ask for "offensive" sayings on their plates:
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plates

Finally, most states will charge extra for plates that have certain
backgrounds that appeal to people or support charitable causes.  One of the
best ever was the guy who personalized his specialty plate about children:

[image: eatthekidsfirst.jpg]

Hope you and the family are well,

Rick Neville



On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:38 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Daniel.
>
> A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-)
>
> In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life,
> as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in
> another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays
> with the car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner
> gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used.
> In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets
> transferred from car to car.  You can also get a new license plate here
> whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after
> a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.
>
> Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California
> is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I
> lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you could
> literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had
> regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outside
> because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of
> cigarettes a day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our
> pollution blow over to Canada and New York.
>
> Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them
> some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have
> the same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion
> they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to be
> able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than
> providing an income source for the state and the inspection station
> operators.
>
> One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate
> on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only
> require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a
> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone
> back away from the scene of a crime?
>
> Rick
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Weslake1330 wrote:
>
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
>
>
> Correct. Also called a license plate.
>
> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
>
>
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by
> state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate
> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate
> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax,
> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation
> with representation.
>
> or that it has passed annual inspection?
>
>
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states
> require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an
> emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test.
> YMMV depending on where you live.
>
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
>
> Kent
> '56 100
> '60 Sprite
>
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From ddoiron at cox.net  Mon Sep  6 13:08:10 2021
From: ddoiron at cox.net (David Doiron)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 12:08:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags
Message-ID: <959997178.463758.1630955290268@myemail.cox.net>

>>>> 
Weslake1330 wrote:
So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
>>>>
Kent McLean wrote:
Correct. Also called a license plate.
>>>> 

I respectfully disagree. 
Kent is revealing his Eastern bias...Tag is a misused term. 
Tags were the stickers, separate from the plates. 

So now that the definition of Tags has become corrupted, fewer 
people use the term anymore. 

I understand that language is a living thing but it is not 
useful when words get re-defined by misuse. Bad now means good,
sick means exceptional, graffiti is now tagging instead of 
vandalism, etc, etc. 

YMMV
W David Doiron

From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:11:15 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:11:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Plates, Tags, Registrations, and Titles
In-Reply-To: <1650506429.456434.1630908607057@myemail.cox.net>
References: <1650506429.456434.1630908607057@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1VEk8uTnfA=kXUf_j82vYjL9R3zsG3Mkny9ukDTx7pbvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David, - First reply was yours - thanks - I'll read the rest in a
minute.  Perhaps you've not been over here since they abandoned having to
display a tax disc on your car - dumb idea or what!  Also, at least pre 73
is MOT (UK inspection equivalent exempt) - go figure.

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 07:10, David Doiron via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Dear Daniel,
> Depends on the state.
>
> All states have plates. They used to be dated for a single year and
> had to be replaced annually. Occasionally the plate design would change
> as well.
>
> Then they started making undated plates. Law enforcement would know if
> the plate was current by: a sticker on the plate (some states) or a
> sticker on the windscreen (called "Tags" and primarily used in the
> Eastern states, not used in the Western states) (the term "Tags" is
> sometimes used by Easterners to refer to plates.
> Not done in the West)
>
> Title is a paper that indicates car ownership. Some states do not use
> titles once a car reaches a certain age. I know Indiana as one case.
>
> You did not mention Registration, but all states require some form.
> It can be for just one or for multiple years. It is primarily a tax.
> States used to require that the registration be visible to law
> enforcement looking in the drivers window. Common methods were little
> plastic cases that were strapped to the steering column or to the
> sunscreen.
> The collapse of civilization ended that practice. Crooks would get the
> address off the registration then go burglarize your home...
> The simple tax disc is a much more elegant system.
>
> Safety and/or smog inspections are another whole different can of worms.
> Amicalement,
> W David & Diane Doiron
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:16:39 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:16:39 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <475972149.20210905232619@comcast.net>
References: <CAMhoh1VptE_fbFLsHEJwuJ7ZNKOo_rV23FdgCb34g-eAb_9LrQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks, also interesting.  I remember old list discussions about collector
car plates.  When they abandoned annual car tax and then a couple of
decades late annual MOTs for older cars the big fear was that they'd be
restrictions on driving them, but nothing so far.  There is a big old car
lobby over here and if you are really rich you'll have a really old car
you'll want to drive.  I guess I'm young enough (58) to see how things pan
out when petrol cars start to disappear along with petrol at stations.  I
guess I will have to get a 50 gallon drum and hand pump in my garage and
carry a spare can or 2 on a long journey if that day ever arrives!  I don't
think anyone has worked out the cost of digging up all the streets to fit
charging points for all these electric cars along with all that extra thick
cabling to the sub-stations!

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 07:26, Bill L. <Zormecteon at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello Weslake1330,
>
>
> Every state has different rules about "number plates" ... In the U.S. we
> call the license plates... They have stickers that expire yearly (in most
> cases.. I'll get to that). Those are called the tags. When you renew you
> get a new registration certificate. This is separate from the title (which
> proves ownership). .. Title goes with the car, and the new owner will get a
> new title when he registers the vehicle. At that time he will get new
> plates. ..
>
> Different states, different inspections or none at all. .. mostly none at
> all but some do have tests to make sure that they meet pollution
> requirements... others don't..
>
> In most states you can pay more to get a plate of your own choosing, as
> long as someone else hasn't already claimed the one you want... .. These
> are called vanity plates. and usually restricted to 7 characters or fewer.
> There may be some that are the same but not from the same state... (I was
> thinking of getting one .... LCNSPL8... it's not taken in the state of
> Washington .. but I digress..
>
> Also in some if not most states are "collector car plates) .. and
> "Horseless carriage" plates... these are one time cost plates. and do not
> have yearly tags... .. collector car plates are for cars older than 25
> years  and there are restrictions on the use of the car..-- to and from..
> and in parades.. and limited pleasure and test purpose driving--.  .. also
> for cars older than 25 years.. if you can find a plate with tags from the
> year the car was made, you can use that, again for a one time fee with
> limited use restrictions...
>
> When the police pull you over they want to see the registration.  which
> proves the car is yours and the taxes have been paid for the year, but  ..
> you keep the title safe at home. ..and that is what gets transferred when
> you sell the car or move to another state. .. kinda like the deed to a
> house... you sign away the title.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:Zormecteon at comcast.net
>
>
> Look at the docs? Nah, nurses are much better looking
>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep  6 13:17:45 2021
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 15:17:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags
In-Reply-To: <959997178.463758.1630955290268@myemail.cox.net>
References: <959997178.463758.1630955290268@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <D4447CBC-D582-465E-B1AA-E7B15A10CC32@chartermi.net>

Don't get me started on the way people misuse "bring" and "take".  Makes me crazy.  :-)

Rick

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 3:08 PM, David Doiron via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I understand that language is a living thing but it is not 
> useful when words get re-defined by misuse. Bad now means good,
> sick means exceptional, graffiti is now tagging instead of 
> vandalism, etc, etc. 
> 
> YMMV
> W David Doiron
> ------------------------
> 
> 


From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:18:28 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:18:28 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <13F642B9-8386-40EA-B0B2-5EB47E63D24A@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.3.1630864802.31450.spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <CAMhoh1XTcYnZ7a6yfosHmmDfo9Mnrz1NjiXK91VAaOrnXDO3Ug@mail.gmail.com>

Many thanks.  My 69 Sprite is exempt emissions (hydrocarbons) which is good
since it runs a near full race air/fuel ratio!  It just has a visible smoke
test (if the engine was burning a massive amount of oil it might fail).

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 10:59, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Weslake1330 wrote:
>
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
>
>
> Correct. Also called a license plate.
>
> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
>
>
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by
> state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate
> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate
> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax,
> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation
> with representation.
>
> or that it has passed annual inspection?
>
>
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states
> require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an
> emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test.
> YMMV depending on where you live.
>
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
>
> Kent
> '56 100
> '60 Sprite
>
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:27:49 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:27:49 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <E2E6331A-FC2D-42BB-AAEA-8BE183AB7300@chartermi.net>
References: <13F642B9-8386-40EA-B0B2-5EB47E63D24A@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <CAMhoh1Uz-Wm+1dqbokOKbaFp8q=fp9mv+CO_Tqgw2vYdhRmhVA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, interesting point about some states not needing a plate on the
front - seems odd to me.  Over here only motorcycles are exempt from having
a plate on the front after they found they were a bit like a cutting blade
in an accident (in the 1960s I guess).

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 18:37, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Daniel.
>
> A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-)
>
> In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life,
> as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in
> another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays
> with the car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner
> gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used.
> In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets
> transferred from car to car.  You can also get a new license plate here
> whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after
> a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.
>
> Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California
> is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I
> lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you could
> literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had
> regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outside
> because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of
> cigarettes a day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our
> pollution blow over to Canada and New York.
>
> Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them
> some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have
> the same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion
> they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to be
> able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than
> providing an income source for the state and the inspection station
> operators.
>
> One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate
> on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only
> require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a
> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone
> back away from the scene of a crime?
>
> Rick
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?Weslake1330 wrote:
>
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
>
>
> Correct. Also called a license plate.
>
> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
>
>
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by
> state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate
> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate
> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax,
> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation
> with representation.
>
> or that it has passed annual inspection?
>
>
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states
> require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an
> emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test.
> YMMV depending on where you live.
>
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
>
> Kent
> '56 100
> '60 Sprite
>
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:29:10 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:29:10 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <CD7D5DD1-850F-415B-B63A-BDBCD5832BA8@billyzoom.com>
References: <13F642B9-8386-40EA-B0B2-5EB47E63D24A@comcast.net>
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Yep, seems to odd to me but then again I think all of Europe would fit
inside Texas (by area).

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 18:44, Billy Zoom via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The USA is a federation if individual states, and each state makes it?s
> own laws regarding motor vehicles.
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:35:57 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:35:57 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
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Hi Rick,

I'm as well as can be expected living in a house full of women (very far
removed from the fantasies of my youth)!

Thanks for the banned list of plates link.  There is some sort of vetting
on personalised plates over here that might be offensive.  I saw a plate
that would read Ben Dover.  Here is my list of silly names that might be
presented one at a time to an office/airport/whatever reception for them to
announce over the tannoy system (I've seen one on US news banner when a
witness to whatever claimed that was his name):

Mike Litoris
Ophelia Balls
Drew Peacock
Hugh Jars
Phil Mycrak
Tess Tickel
Norma Stitts
Issac Cox
Issac Hunt
Jack Schitt
Jenny Talls
Summon Toofak

Regards


Daniel




On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 19:21, HealeyRick via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> Some more info.
>
> There is no real open market on low-digit or specialty numbers as in the
> UK.  In some states, you can pass your number plate on to relatives or by
> will.  When a low-digit plate owner dies or turns his plate back into the
> department of motor vehicles, some states will hold an auction or lottery
> so that people can try to get it
> https://www.fosters.com/article/20050816/news0103/108160014
>
> Most states will allow you to purchase a "vanity" or "personalized" plate
> with letters or numbers you specify:  Then the states need to hire workers
> to make sure people don't ask for "offensive" sayings on their plates:
> https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plates
>
> Finally, most states will charge extra for plates that have certain
> backgrounds that appeal to people or support charitable causes.  One of the
> best ever was the guy who personalized his specialty plate about children:
>
> [image: eatthekidsfirst.jpg]
>
> Hope you and the family are well,
>
> Rick Neville
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:38 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel.
>>
>> A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-)
>>
>> In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life,
>> as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in
>> another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays
>> with the car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner
>> gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used.
>> In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets
>> transferred from car to car.  You can also get a new license plate here
>> whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after
>> a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.
>>
>> Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California
>> is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I
>> lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you could
>> literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had
>> regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outside
>> because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of
>> cigarettes a day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our
>> pollution blow over to Canada and New York.
>>
>> Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them
>> some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have
>> the same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion
>> they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to be
>> able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than
>> providing an income source for the state and the inspection station
>> operators.
>>
>> One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate
>> on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only
>> require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a
>> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone
>> back away from the scene of a crime?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Weslake1330 wrote:
>>
>> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
>>
>>
>> Correct. Also called a license plate.
>>
>> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
>> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
>>
>>
>> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various
>> by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate
>> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate
>> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax,
>> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation
>> with representation.
>>
>> or that it has passed annual inspection?
>>
>>
>> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states
>> require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an
>> emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test.
>> YMMV depending on where you live.
>>
>> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
>>
>> Kent
>> '56 100
>> '60 Sprite
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:38:01 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:38:01 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags
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Hi David,

Over here Graffiti still means the same thing it always did but the person
that does it has some sort of image or symbol they use instead of their
name, so they can claim credit with other graffitists (?) and that's known
as their 'tag'.

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 20:08, David Doiron via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> >>>>
> Weslake1330 wrote:
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
> >>>>
> Kent McLean wrote:
> Correct. Also called a license plate.
> >>>>
>
> I respectfully disagree.
> Kent is revealing his Eastern bias...Tag is a misused term.
> Tags were the stickers, separate from the plates.
>
> So now that the definition of Tags has become corrupted, fewer
> people use the term anymore.
>
> I understand that language is a living thing but it is not
> useful when words get re-defined by misuse. Bad now means good,
> sick means exceptional, graffiti is now tagging instead of
> vandalism, etc, etc.
>
> YMMV
> W David Doiron
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 13:41:33 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:41:33 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags
In-Reply-To: <D4447CBC-D582-465E-B1AA-E7B15A10CC32@chartermi.net>
References: <959997178.463758.1630955290268@myemail.cox.net>
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Yep, English standards have slipped and I see written mistakes that you
would once never see other than if written by a young child.  'Course with
English often the meaning of a word is in the spelling but it is spoken the
same (stationery and stationary).  One thing I like to catch is where
somewhere calls an abbreviation an acronym!

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 20:24, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Don't get me started on the way people misuse "bring" and "take".  Makes
> me crazy.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> > On Sep 6, 2021, at 3:08 PM, David Doiron via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > I understand that language is a living thing but it is not
> > useful when words get re-defined by misuse. Bad now means good,
> > sick means exceptional, graffiti is now tagging instead of
> > vandalism, etc, etc.
> >
> > YMMV
> > W David Doiron
> > ------------------------
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 13:42:16 2021
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 14:42:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Stapleton=E2=80=99s_book_at_work=2E?=
References: <2E281ED4-12C6-46B1-9360-DD9102136231.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2E281ED4-12C6-46B1-9360-DD9102136231@yahoo.com>

From a few weeks ago. https://youtu.be/Kd2o-3PL-L0

Ron Soave
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Mon Sep  6 13:52:19 2021
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 15:52:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1630951202.5353.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1630951202.5353.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <64071011-C5D5-4C78-80F0-98BF9488D71F@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
>  Title goes with the car, and the new owner will get a new title when he registers the vehicle.

And to add another correction, titles are issued by the state, so titles and proof of ownership varies by state. New Hampshire (NH) used to not issue titles for vehicles over 15 years old. They changed that so that if the vehicle has a title, it is issued a new title on change of ownership, even if beyond the 15 year time frame. And that got unwieldy, so they made 1999 a cutoff date.
https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/title/index.htm

I'm sure all of this information has clarified things for Weslake1330. :)  One thing we can all agree on is that "tags and titles" vary by state. It is best to check the local state authorities for particulars. And even the "local state authorities" will vary by state. That "independence" thing runs deep.
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 19:29:53 2021
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 01:29:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Stapleton's book at work re-do
References: <1052302339.3479320.1630978193492.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1052302339.3479320.1630978193492@mail.yahoo.com>

Some apparently got this link and others didn't. Sorry if it is a repeat - here's a bit of the Spridget race from Grattan Raceway 3 weeks ago. There were 28 Spridgets including 2 factory prototypes with aluminum bodies, cross flow head, fuel injection - amazing. This is John Salisbury #34 and me doing our thing at the pointy end of the pack.
Grattan 2021 VSCDA Spridget Race


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"It only goes one way." - P. Asgeirsson
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Sep  6 20:08:32 2021
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 (null))
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 22:08:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stapleton's book at work re-do
In-Reply-To: <1052302339.3479320.1630978193492@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1052302339.3479320.1630978193492@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DB180928-D90E-4505-BFA8-2B79CB9D31B6@aol.com>

Ron,

Mine came thru fine both times. Thanks for the 12+ minute ride along. I watched that race from the VERY busy 5,5a,6&7 series of turns. 

Great driving, all weekend long. I?m glad you captured it on video for posted it for all of us to enjoy

Howard 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Some apparently got this link and others didn't. Sorry if it is a repeat - here's a bit of the Spridget race from Grattan Raceway 3 weeks ago. There were 28 Spridgets including 2 factory prototypes with aluminum bodies, cross flow head, fuel injection - amazing. This is John Salisbury #34 and me doing our thing at the pointy end of the pack.
> 
> Grattan 2021 VSCDA Spridget Race
> 
> 	
> Grattan 2021 VSCDA Spridget Race
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Soave 
> Roscoe, IL 
> "It only goes one way." - P. Asgeirsson
> "Pay it forward." - F. Clarici III
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 20:40:35 2021
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 21:40:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stapleton's book at work re-do
In-Reply-To: <DB180928-D90E-4505-BFA8-2B79CB9D31B6@aol.com>
References: <DB180928-D90E-4505-BFA8-2B79CB9D31B6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <853DE32E-A3BD-4179-A8F9-C9854D994DFB@yahoo.com>

Thank you, Howard! There?s video of me being mean to the Porsche as well but I take the YouTube version of pleading the 5th!

Ron Soave

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 9:08 PM, miniac7 (null) <miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Ron,
> 
> Mine came thru fine both times. Thanks for the 12+ minute ride along. I watched that race from the VERY busy 5,5a,6&7 series of turns. 
> 
> Great driving, all weekend long. I?m glad you captured it on video for posted it for all of us to enjoy
> 
> Howard 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 6, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Some apparently got this link and others didn't. Sorry if it is a repeat - here's a bit of the Spridget race from Grattan Raceway 3 weeks ago. There were 28 Spridgets including 2 factory prototypes with aluminum bodies, cross flow head, fuel injection - amazing. This is John Salisbury #34 and me doing our thing at the pointy end of the pack.
>> 
>> Grattan 2021 VSCDA Spridget Race
>> 
>> 	
>> Grattan 2021 VSCDA Spridget Race
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron Soave 
>> Roscoe, IL 
>> "It only goes one way." - P. Asgeirsson
>> "Pay it forward." - F. Clarici III
>> ------------------------
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 14:25:59 2021
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:25:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
In-Reply-To: <E2E6331A-FC2D-42BB-AAEA-8BE183AB7300@chartermi.net>
References: <13F642B9-8386-40EA-B0B2-5EB47E63D24A@comcast.net>
 <E2E6331A-FC2D-42BB-AAEA-8BE183AB7300@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CANx9iMPHpoG6F6+txmcPJm1Gh4PXDdfadup-XdyHCkZ1djh7rw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 12:37 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
>
> One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate
> on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only
> require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a
> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone
> back away from the scene of a crime?
>

And then there's the state of Missouri that require only a front plate for
trucks.

I've never understood that one.

On the discussion of "vanity" plates, my favorites are the failures - where
the owner sees one thing but others read it quite differently.

We have a woman that drives a red New Beetle convertible around here with a
plate that I'm sure she thinks says "BLOSSOM 1" - but I'm not so sure...
Her plate is "BLOSOM 1"
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From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com  Wed Sep  8 15:47:13 2021
From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 21:47:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vanity plates...
References: <315688013.4243918.1631137633410.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Mary Anne insists our Vibe needs a "RATER" plate....? ?*sigh*......Chuck
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From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com  Thu Sep  9 17:13:50 2021
From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 23:13:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Old...OLD Champion racing spark plugs
References: <548549821.28143.1631229230407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <548549821.28143.1631229230407@mail.yahoo.com>

Ok you dinosaur types!For my Saab 2 stroke I have some NOS Champion K61R plugs.? ?They have the pressed in side electrode to adjust the gap.There was a tool to press in the electrode to set the gap on these plugs.??Anyone even remember these plugs...and if so do you have the tool that set the plug gaps?? ?I am interested in locating that tool.Thank you!Chuck
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 19:59:22 2021
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 20:59:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Old...OLD Champion racing spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <548549821.28143.1631229230407@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <548549821.28143.1631229230407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <548549821.28143.1631229230407@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CANuE7YBbq1b4Rbn6D5HU=ivxbX4H8=0udgLPMN9tbxM0LHeocA@mail.gmail.com>

I THINK you are talking about a "massive" electrode plug?  Which one on the
attached photo is it?
[image: images.jpg]


On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Ok you dinosaur types!
> For my Saab 2 stroke I have some NOS Champion K61R plugs.   They have the
> pressed in side electrode to adjust the gap.
> There was a tool to press in the electrode to set the gap on these plugs.
> Anyone even remember these plugs...and if so do you have the tool that set
> the plug gaps?   I am interested in locating that tool.
> Thank you!
> Chuck
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From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com  Thu Sep  9 20:42:35 2021
From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:42:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Old...OLD Champion racing spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <CANuE7YBbq1b4Rbn6D5HU=ivxbX4H8=0udgLPMN9tbxM0LHeocA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <548549821.28143.1631229230407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <548549821.28143.1631229230407@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CANuE7YBbq1b4Rbn6D5HU=ivxbX4H8=0udgLPMN9tbxM0LHeocA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1448276828.95888.1631241755493@mail.yahoo.com>

 Far left , high performance.The side electrode is adjustable with a tool that pushed it inward from the side of the plug .? ?that was how they got the gap set.Chuck
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 09:59:35 PM EDT, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I THINK you are talking about a "massive" electrode plug?? Which one on the attached photo is it?


On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

Ok you dinosaur types!For my Saab 2 stroke I have some NOS Champion K61R plugs.? ?They have the pressed in side electrode to adjust the gap.There was a tool to press in the electrode to set the gap on these plugs.??Anyone even remember these plugs...and if so do you have the tool that set the plug gaps?? ?I am interested in locating that tool.Thank you!Chuck------------------------

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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 10 06:50:53 2021
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 07:50:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Old...OLD Champion racing spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <1448276828.95888.1631241755493@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <548549821.28143.1631229230407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <548549821.28143.1631229230407@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CANuE7YBbq1b4Rbn6D5HU=ivxbX4H8=0udgLPMN9tbxM0LHeocA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANuE7YCkaqY33CBVhNaGmiHB-CfnQwa73Kf9wPwfB6AC1iVdvQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have never seen one of those outside of text books and photos like the
one I sent.  I did a little googleing but trying to search for high
performance in connection with spark plug is a lost cause.  Do you know
what the tool might look like?  I'll ask around at the shop and see if any
of the guys there know.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:42 PM crusaderchuck55 at aol.com <
crusaderchuck55 at aol.com> wrote:

> Far left , high performance.
> The side electrode is adjustable with a tool that pushed it inward from
> the side of the plug .   that was how they got the gap set.
> Chuck
>
> On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 09:59:35 PM EDT, John Innis <
> jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I THINK you are talking about a "massive" electrode plug?  Which one on
> the attached photo is it?
> [image: images.jpg]
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Ok you dinosaur types!
> For my Saab 2 stroke I have some NOS Champion K61R plugs.   They have the
> pressed in side electrode to adjust the gap.
> There was a tool to press in the electrode to set the gap on these plugs.
> Anyone even remember these plugs...and if so do you have the tool that set
> the plug gaps?   I am interested in locating that tool.
> Thank you!
> Chuck
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From frogeye at cox.net  Fri Sep 10 07:31:36 2021
From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan Fisher)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:31:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3.7 rear differential
Message-ID: <F6E67FD8-0ACE-4C5E-9D7A-89DDDE806A38@cox.net>

I have an extra one here
$375 plus shipping 
Also a 3.9 if your looking to replace your 4.22
Alan

Sent from my iPad

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Sep 10 07:36:49 2021
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:36:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3.7 rear differential
In-Reply-To: <F6E67FD8-0ACE-4C5E-9D7A-89DDDE806A38@cox.net>
References: <F6E67FD8-0ACE-4C5E-9D7A-89DDDE806A38@cox.net>
Message-ID: <3074330C-E4C0-4FCD-91A4-99FAD276A460@chartermi.net>

What is the price on the 3.9?

> On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Alan Fisher via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have an extra one here
> $375 plus shipping 
> Also a 3.9 if your looking to replace your 4.22
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 10 08:25:10 2021
From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3.7 rear differential
In-Reply-To: <F6E67FD8-0ACE-4C5E-9D7A-89DDDE806A38@cox.net>
References: <F6E67FD8-0ACE-4C5E-9D7A-89DDDE806A38@cox.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_PrN-pQ+eYSH9S2E3uthKKk+C48mn4fn87-FWZAY1u8A@mail.gmail.com>

I sold a 3.7 diff to a guy in Scotland one time.  I did not want to ship it
internationally.  He was very persuasive so I told I would box it up, get a
quote, and ship it but once it left my hands I did not want to hear about
it again.  I hope he got it.
I used to find a 3.7 or 3.9 about every other month when I was frequenting
the u pull it yards.  Every six months or so a Datsun 210 5 speed would pop
up.  Ah, the good ole days.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 8:32 AM Alan Fisher via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I have an extra one here
> $375 plus shipping
> Also a 3.9 if your looking to replace your 4.22
> Alan
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From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com  Fri Sep 10 21:30:31 2021
From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 03:30:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Old...OLD Champion racing spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <CANuE7YCkaqY33CBVhNaGmiHB-CfnQwa73Kf9wPwfB6AC1iVdvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <548549821.28143.1631229230407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 I have an idea as to what the tool looked like .? Been searching the internet and all I keep coming up with are 80's& 90's every day gap gauges.? ?My son inhereted all my father's tools.? Oddly I do not recall seeing my father owning the gap setting tool.? ?My father have me the plugs.Chuck
    On Friday, September 10, 2021, 08:51:05 AM EDT, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I have never seen one of those outside of text books and photos like the one I sent.? I did a little googleing but trying to search for high performance in connection with spark plug is a lost cause.? Do you know what the tool might look like?? I'll ask around at the shop and see if any of the guys there know.? 

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:42 PM crusaderchuck55 at aol.com <crusaderchuck55 at aol.com> wrote:

 Far left , high performance.The side electrode is adjustable with a tool that pushed it inward from the side of the plug .? ?that was how they got the gap set.Chuck
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 09:59:35 PM EDT, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I THINK you are talking about a "massive" electrode plug?? Which one on the attached photo is it?


On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

Ok you dinosaur types!For my Saab 2 stroke I have some NOS Champion K61R plugs.? ?They have the pressed in side electrode to adjust the gap.There was a tool to press in the electrode to set the gap on these plugs.??Anyone even remember these plugs...and if so do you have the tool that set the plug gaps?? ?I am interested in locating that tool.Thank you!Chuck------------------------

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From stanbmason at aol.com  Sat Sep 11 10:49:00 2021
From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 16:49:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Grattan Follow-up
In-Reply-To: <2005087135.2775858.1631378786362@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <951699797.105433.1630138882228.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <951699797.105433.1630138882228@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1390830565.102174.1630139015851@mail.yahoo.com>
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I am forwarding this information on parts from a Bug Eye.? Please contact Dorr Johnson's email and not me if interested.??oldcop47 at hotmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Dorr Johnson <oldcop47 at hotmail.com>

Sent: Tue, Sep 7, 2021 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Grattan Follow-up

Stan,? I have sold my red Bug Eye ( WMR Log book 06-50).? ?I have a brand new in the box 948 crank shaft left over.? Purchased in London in the 80,s.? Also set of? real Mini Lite wheels and various other wheels.? 3 PERFECT Bug Eye doors.? ?VERY nice original bonnet.? And? other misc parts.? I realize this is not a buy/sell forum but would like this stuff to go to people who will actually use it .? Located just south of GR mi.? Prices will be fair.? Regards,? Dorr Johnson? ?616 893 1013
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From stanbmason at aol.com  Sat Sep 11 10:50:41 2021
From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 16:50:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Bug Eye Parts
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I am forwarding this information on parts from a Bug Eye.? Please contact Dorr Johnson's email and not me if interested.??oldcop47 at hotmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Dorr Johnson <oldcop47 at hotmail.com>

Sent: Tue, Sep 7, 2021 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Grattan Follow-up

Stan,? I have sold my red Bug Eye ( WMR Log book 06-50).? ?I have a brand new in the box 948 crank shaft left over.? Purchased in London in the 80,s.? Also set of? real Mini Lite wheels and various other wheels.? 3 PERFECT Bug Eye doors.? ?VERY nice original bonnet.? And? other misc parts.? I realize this is not a buy/sell forum but would like this stuff to go to people who will actually use it .? Located just south of GR mi.? Prices will be fair.? Regards,? Dorr Johnson? ?616 893 1013
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 11 14:14:16 2021
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 16:14:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Kent's Bugeye restoration
In-Reply-To: <651CF0E3-E5E1-4F2D-BAD9-D1EEF4E36699@comcast.net>
References: <09506D48-9BEA-4C23-A26F-5DC9C130CEE9@comcast.net>
 <ECD33CEC-2DBC-4F3C-A5D3-4AB207619FB4@chartermi.net>
 <A7262389-8225-4235-893D-79B88284B2CE@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfEeVDCNgkP1EGphKKama1Ehep8X8i4K-O2xveN8ccBQg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kent,
I loved the video of you hauling the bonnet up the barn!
I am lighting a fire under you now.
Linda

62 California Sprite Pinky

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 5:57 PM Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote:

> Linda wrote:
>
> Hi Kent,
> Sounds like the engine has some potential. You might want to add the
> thread I started in:
> https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/my-new-1960-bugeye-build.233472/.
> This way we can continue to see the updates in order with a photo build.
> Keep us posted either way. I haven't touched any of my fleet because I
> needed to paint the house and garage this summer inbetween summer teaching.
>
>
> Ha. I promised to paint the house before I started on the Bugeye. We had
> 35" of rain in July. Needless to say, that job stalled, the Bugeye stalled.
> I gotta light a fire under my butt before October makes it too cold to
> paint. Wasn't it Shakespeare's Richard III that said, "A round tuit, A
> round tuit, My kingdom for a round tuit." or something to that effect.
>
>

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From ggroiss at gmail.com  Sat Sep 11 14:42:38 2021
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 16:42:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [EasternOshitGroup] Old...OLD Champion racing spark
 plugs
In-Reply-To: <1673562235.451147.1631331031948@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <548549821.28143.1631229230407.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <1448276828.95888.1631241755493@mail.yahoo.com>
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Looks a little like an aviation plug to me. Have you tried looking up
Champion aerospace plug gap tools?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 11:30 PM crusaderchuck55 at aol.com via groups.io
<crusaderchuck55=aol.com at groups.io> wrote:

> I have an idea as to what the tool looked like .  Been searching the
> internet and all I keep coming up with are 80's& 90's every day gap
> gauges.
> My son inhereted all my father's tools.  Oddly I do not recall seeing my
> father owning the gap setting tool.   My father have me the plugs.
> Chuck
>
> On Friday, September 10, 2021, 08:51:05 AM EDT, John Innis <
> jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have never seen one of those outside of text books and photos like the
> one I sent.  I did a little googleing but trying to search for high
> performance in connection with spark plug is a lost cause.  Do you know
> what the tool might look like?  I'll ask around at the shop and see if any
> of the guys there know.
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:42 PM crusaderchuck55 at aol.com <
> crusaderchuck55 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Far left , high performance.
> The side electrode is adjustable with a tool that pushed it inward from
> the side of the plug .   that was how they got the gap set.
> Chuck
>
> On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 09:59:35 PM EDT, John Innis <
> jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I THINK you are talking about a "massive" electrode plug?  Which one on
> the attached photo is it?
> [image: images.jpg]
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Ok you dinosaur types!
> For my Saab 2 stroke I have some NOS Champion K61R plugs.   They have the
> pressed in side electrode to adjust the gap.
> There was a tool to press in the electrode to set the gap on these plugs.
> Anyone even remember these plugs...and if so do you have the tool that set
> the plug gaps?   I am interested in locating that tool.
> Thank you!
> Chuck
> ------------------------
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sat Sep 11 14:44:12 2021
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 16:44:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Kent's Bugeye restoration
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Message-ID: <A63A1631-A1A8-47AB-9DD8-62144D8CFB27@comcast.net>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> I am lighting a fire under you now.

Please. I had plans for today. We got a call early this AM, "Can you watch the kids?" We started around 10:00. At 1:30, their two cousins came over to join them. At 4:30 we said good-bye to everyone. Now I'm too tired to do what I had planned. But... The paint-half-the-house clapboards are repaired, seams and nail heads caulked, and I'm almost done sanding the loose paint off. Once all the prep work is done, it'll take only half a day to paint with my sprayer. _Then_ I can get back to working on the Bug Eye. Maybe. Sigh.


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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 10:44:44 2021
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 09:44:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Hood (Convertible top)
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEOOUJ14hTOZUxd-_dLnDO-r-=ef1piG7HH5x_+giczBjxA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone bought a convertible top for their Bugeye recently?  About 15
years ago I bought a top from Little British Car Company for my 60 Bugeye.
They get their tops from a manufacturer in the UK.  After installation the
front top bow, when extended, did not fit in the "pocket" sewn in the top
making the it loose and look deflated.  See the pictures below.  One
picture shows the top looking deflated with the front bow fully extended.
The other picture shows the front bow pulled back a little positioning it
in the sewn fold (pocket).  If the pocket is under tension, the front bow
will pop our place when I hit a bump or pothole in the road.  Then the top
becomes loose and flaps in the wind.  In the past when I canvassed this
list the top bows extended measured out the same as everyone else's.  I
recently bought a Robbins top from Moss and could not fit it.  No matter if
it sat in the sun for a while to relax the vinyl or not, it was too small.
I could not even get close to getting the front bar under the windshield
lip with the front bow folded back and the top bows retracted into
themselves on both sides to relieve tension.  The top was a full inch to
inch and a half away from the top of the windshield.   It leaves me
wondering where to get a correct fitting top now.  Where did you buy your
last top?
Mike MacLean
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 04:09:01 2021
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:09:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Kent's Bugeye restoration
In-Reply-To: <A63A1631-A1A8-47AB-9DD8-62144D8CFB27@comcast.net>
References: <09506D48-9BEA-4C23-A26F-5DC9C130CEE9@comcast.net>
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Kent,
I understand completely, this summer I painted the garage, still working on
the doors and windows and hired a company to paint the house. I'm almost
done. Then I can rebuild my deep pink Sprite's carburetors now that I have
the new kit from Joe Curto, highly recommended by Tom Colby of Speedwell
Engineering. Then flush my new brake system I bought from Gerard
https://www.gerardsgarage.com, who is one of the best rebuilders. I've had
air in the system for 2 years and now I'll try the bicycle pump trick
thanks to Alan Fisher who sent me a couple of master cylinder caps
and sells outstanding original Spridget parts! Thanks for paying it forward
Alan. I'll need to remember to pick up that bicycle tube valve so I can
install it on my cap and hopefully get that last bit of air out before
winter sets in. Once school started in September every project was pushed
back.

We all should read old posts from our dear friend Frank Clarici to get
motivated, and of course always pay it forward.
Power On Spridgeteers,
Linda

62 California Deep Pink Sprite "Pinky"

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 4:44 PM Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote:

> Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
> I am lighting a fire under you now.
>
>
> Please. I had plans for today. We got a call early this AM, "Can you watch
> the kids?" We started around 10:00. At 1:30, their two cousins came over to
> join them. At 4:30 we said good-bye to everyone. Now I'm too tired to do
> what I had planned. But... The paint-half-the-house clapboards are
> repaired, seams and nail heads caulked, and I'm almost done sanding the
> loose paint off. Once all the prep work is done, it'll take only half a day
> to paint with my sprayer. _Then_ I can get back to working on the Bug Eye.
> Maybe. Sigh.
>
>
>

-- 
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 04:16:05 2021
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:16:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Hood (Convertible top)
In-Reply-To: <CAL4ZEOOUJ14hTOZUxd-_dLnDO-r-=ef1piG7HH5x_+giczBjxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL4ZEOOUJ14hTOZUxd-_dLnDO-r-=ef1piG7HH5x_+giczBjxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcdxfviOHpxxo+DsgksvEamkOwKbyAaBSmCG5CQJ2uxyA@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,
Have you tried an antique car canvas shop? I have a guy near me who is a
master vintage car canvas expert who makes tops by hand and I'll have him
fit mine (needs the snaps installed) as I just know my limits. I hired him
to install the seals in my side screens. Maybe you can find a guy who can
improve yours before buying another.
Linda

62 California deep pink Sprite "Pinky"



On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:48 PM Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Has anyone bought a convertible top for their Bugeye recently?  About 15
> years ago I bought a top from Little British Car Company for my 60 Bugeye.
> They get their tops from a manufacturer in the UK.  After installation the
> front top bow, when extended, did not fit in the "pocket" sewn in the top
> making the it loose and look deflated.  See the pictures below.  One
> picture shows the top looking deflated with the front bow fully extended.
> The other picture shows the front bow pulled back a little positioning it
> in the sewn fold (pocket).  If the pocket is under tension, the front bow
> will pop our place when I hit a bump or pothole in the road.  Then the top
> becomes loose and flaps in the wind.  In the past when I canvassed this
> list the top bows extended measured out the same as everyone else's.  I
> recently bought a Robbins top from Moss and could not fit it.  No matter if
> it sat in the sun for a while to relax the vinyl or not, it was too small.
> I could not even get close to getting the front bar under the windshield
> lip with the front bow folded back and the top bows retracted into
> themselves on both sides to relieve tension.  The top was a full inch to
> inch and a half away from the top of the windshield.   It leaves me
> wondering where to get a correct fitting top now.  Where did you buy your
> last top?
> Mike MacLean
> ------------------------
>
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>
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep 22 04:39:07 2021
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:39:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Kent's Bugeye restoration
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdxdRgEYU+fvUUgRjq+Ni+0bUoKMvHBZwYbUbWwqMjxtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <09506D48-9BEA-4C23-A26F-5DC9C130CEE9@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <19588916-5E66-4A92-8973-DB145DDD7A34@comcast.net>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Kent,
> I understand completely, this summer I painted the garage, still working on the doors and windows and hired a company to paint the house. I'm almost done. Then I can  ...

Almost done painting the house. Just need to finish the trim on 2 doors and a window, but the weather isn't cooperating. Neither are the step-kids. "We're going to Disney World for a week. Can you watch our 2 dogs?" Can't say, "No." 
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:10:49 2021
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 10:10:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEOPfoOfPtUZALbF3OpURJi4UsP08zqUKWEcc2vvCEjVN8g@mail.gmail.com>

For those in need of a new convertible top, you might want to go directly
to the Robbins web site.
www.robbinsautotop.com
They are having a 25% off sale with free shipping.  That makes the price
about $100 cheaper than Moss with no shipping charges!  Just saying.  No
financial interest, just ordering a new top myself.
Mike MacLean
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From stanbmason at aol.com  Thu Sep 23 15:48:24 2021
From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:48:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: BlackOctoberfest
In-Reply-To: <CAFrbxiJy1=jjSGjW-0pngv1U=U6GHquanfBum-NKpVr8VUdEfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFrbxiJy1=jjSGjW-0pngv1U=U6GHquanfBum-NKpVr8VUdEfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1387051186.515007.1632433704308@mail.yahoo.com>

Message from Tom Wilcox below for those attending Blacktober Event.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Wilcox <tawilcox57 at gmail.com>
To: stanbmason at aol.com <stanbmason at aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 4:21 pm
Subject: BlackOctoberfest

Hi Stan-
Hope you are doing well. Could you please send out an ?all Spridget? e-mail and advise the reciepients that I?ll host the BlackOctoberfest brat cookout at my paddock on Sat?? Bring your precooked brats or whatever other meat suits your fancy.?
ThanksTom
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 24 05:26:14 2021
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 06:26:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawtoberfest
In-Reply-To: <1387051186.515007.1632433704308@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1387051186.515007.1632433704308@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1F5156F4-F3AC-428B-B8F7-2605A3B2D011@yahoo.com>

Last year we had 16 or 17 Spridgets. If we have enough this year, I?ll add a race for us (a rogue not part of our ?series?). Let me know PRIVATELY if you?ll be there.  

Ron Soave

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 4:48 PM, stanbmason at aol.com wrote:
> 
> ?
> Message from Tom Wilcox below for those attending Blacktober Event.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Wilcox <tawilcox57 at gmail.com>
> To: stanbmason at aol.com <stanbmason at aol.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 4:21 pm
> Subject: BlackOctoberfest
> 
> Hi Stan-
> 
> Hope you are doing well. Could you please send out an ?all Spridget? e-mail and advise the reciepients that I?ll host the BlackOctoberfest brat cookout at my paddock on Sat?  Bring your precooked brats or whatever other meat suits your fancy. 
> 
> Thanks
> Tom
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 24 09:13:21 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:13:21 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawtoberfest
In-Reply-To: <1F5156F4-F3AC-428B-B8F7-2605A3B2D011@yahoo.com>
References: <1387051186.515007.1632433704308@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1F5156F4-F3AC-428B-B8F7-2605A3B2D011@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1X4bBbcffyiW1VZKTbH=_ck-O2q=J_jg8=cqKavbaK-Sw@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm.  Pre-cooked brats!  Over here brats are badly behaved children!

On Fri, 24 Sept 2021 at 12:33, Ron Soave via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Last year we had 16 or 17 Spridgets. If we have enough this year, I?ll add
> a race for us (a rogue not part of our ?series?). Let me know PRIVATELY if
> you?ll be there.
>
> Ron Soave
>
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 4:48 PM, stanbmason at aol.com wrote:
>
> ?
> Message from Tom Wilcox below for those attending Blacktober Event.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Wilcox <tawilcox57 at gmail.com>
> To: stanbmason at aol.com <stanbmason at aol.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 4:21 pm
> Subject: BlackOctoberfest
>
> Hi Stan-
>
> Hope you are doing well. Could you please send out an ?all Spridget?
> e-mail and advise the reciepients that I?ll host the BlackOctoberfest brat
> cookout at my paddock on Sat?  Bring your precooked brats or whatever other
> meat suits your fancy.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
>
> ------------------------
>
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>
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From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Sep 24 11:10:51 2021
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 10:10:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] gas tank sealing
Message-ID: <a2c468d3-f598-612c-05be-8c4d5838a764@dinospider.com>

 ?So this is not 100% Spridget related but I am putting in a 1098 into 
my car, so it is a Sprite motor and gearbox :)

 ?I got a "new" gas tank for my car.? Its brand new but was made a 
decade ago and has surface rust all over it, inside and out.? Its really 
light rust, not a concern.? The guy that had these tanks made said some 
had minor leaks and I should check for leaks. Thinking about rigging up 
something to pressure test it with compressed air instead of filling it 
with water as he suggested. The tank inside is pretty rust free, except 
where they welded the bungs for drain plug and filler plug and also the 
baffles, seems the welding area is what rusted on the inside.? Outside 
is just surface rust all over.

 ?I have used Hirsch tank sealer in the past with more or less success, 
but I see POR and Eastwood and many others are out there now.? Those 
would also seal any pinholes according to them.

 ?Any recommendations ? I am not against sending it out and having it 
done but I think being brand new and rust being minor, I should be able 
to do this myself.? The tank is fully exposed when in the car so its not 
something I can send out where they coat the inside and outside of the 
tank, only the inside can be done because the outside is painted car 
color and fully visible.? That is the only reason I am considering 
sending it out to have it cleaned of rust and coated inside, I don't 
want to use the wrong product, have to fix it and have to repaint it in 
a few years.

 ??? mike

-- 
A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have it,
you'll probably never need one again.


From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 25 17:16:39 2021
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 19:16:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] gas tank sealing
In-Reply-To: <a2c468d3-f598-612c-05be-8c4d5838a764@dinospider.com>
References: <a2c468d3-f598-612c-05be-8c4d5838a764@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0w84RtO0tUX2VV1-hHjfWhuhbWv-xWuONZFcF2bVno8rQ@mail.gmail.com>

*I have used  Red Kote Fuel Tank Liner in the past with great results. Used
it in my TR-6 tank as well as several motorcycles in the past. Just pour it
in, let it spread by raising and lowering the tank edges, drain out excess
and let it cure... Pretty sure I used it in the Bugeye tank after having it
dunked and soldered too.*

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:11 PM Mike Rambour via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

>   So this is not 100% Spridget related but I am putting in a 1098 into
> my car, so it is a Sprite motor and gearbox :)
>
>   I got a "new" gas tank for my car.  Its brand new but was made a
> decade ago and has surface rust all over it, inside and out.  Its really
> light rust, not a concern.  The guy that had these tanks made said some
> had minor leaks and I should check for leaks. Thinking about rigging up
> something to pressure test it with compressed air instead of filling it
> with water as he suggested. The tank inside is pretty rust free, except
> where they welded the bungs for drain plug and filler plug and also the
> baffles, seems the welding area is what rusted on the inside.  Outside
> is just surface rust all over.
>
>   I have used Hirsch tank sealer in the past with more or less success,
> but I see POR and Eastwood and many others are out there now.  Those
> would also seal any pinholes according to them.
>
>   Any recommendations ? I am not against sending it out and having it
> done but I think being brand new and rust being minor, I should be able
> to do this myself.  The tank is fully exposed when in the car so its not
> something I can send out where they coat the inside and outside of the
> tank, only the inside can be done because the outside is painted car
> color and fully visible.  That is the only reason I am considering
> sending it out to have it cleaned of rust and coated inside, I don't
> want to use the wrong product, have to fix it and have to repaint it in
> a few years.
>
>      mike
>
> --
> A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have it,
> you'll probably never need one again.
>
> ------------------------
>
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>
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-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2017 Home built shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
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From weslake1330 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 26 08:25:28 2021
From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 15:25:28 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tyres
Message-ID: <CAMhoh1V-qcjFtEaJx3LzfsFXiJ213CsbPVvfL0+XeM5gub-=Hw@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZY6uTzDb7w
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 26 11:49:29 2021
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 12:49:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tyres
In-Reply-To: <CAMhoh1V-qcjFtEaJx3LzfsFXiJ213CsbPVvfL0+XeM5gub-=Hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMhoh1V-qcjFtEaJx3LzfsFXiJ213CsbPVvfL0+XeM5gub-=Hw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <162265F7-0A27-4C15-A540-9AC74CDCBD49@yahoo.com>

Luvvit!!

We set the unofficial track record for our race group a few weeks ago at Grattan raceway on these. Hoosier isn?t shipping our tires until October 7!

Ron Soave

> On Sep 26, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZY6uTzDb7w
> ------------------------
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep 27 09:13:42 2021
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:13:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] !960 Bugeye
References: <2bc7ed82-b82a-e309-0b49-ef411f04e641.ref@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2bc7ed82-b82a-e309-0b49-ef411f04e641@frontiernet.net>

I have a 1960 Bugeye in the process. Can anyone tell me where I can 
source Part #260-345. (Link. Accelerator Pedal)??

My moss catalog shows on Page 21, number 8 and is listed N/A.

Thanks much,

Jim Fournier

Huguenot N.Y.



From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep 27 10:04:46 2021
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:04:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] !960 Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <2bc7ed82-b82a-e309-0b49-ef411f04e641@frontiernet.net>
References: <2bc7ed82-b82a-e309-0b49-ef411f04e641@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2D28903F-CE0D-4A48-B1E3-7A23A19C9EC3@chartermi.net>

Moss Europe (UK) has them in stock for about $25.  Part number AHA6255.

https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/austin-healey/sprite/interior/pedals/engine-controls-emission-sprite-iv-midget-iii-1500-1967-79.html

Rick

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Jim via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have a 1960 Bugeye in the process. Can anyone tell me where I can source Part #260-345. (Link. Accelerator Pedal)??
> 
> My moss catalog shows on Page 21, number 8 and is listed N/A.
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> Jim Fournier
> 
> Huguenot N.Y.
> 
> 
> ------------------------
> 
> spridgets at autox.team.net
> 
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep 27 10:21:39 2021
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:21:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] !960 Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <2bc7ed82-b82a-e309-0b49-ef411f04e641@frontiernet.net>
References: <2bc7ed82-b82a-e309-0b49-ef411f04e641@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <8EFD7323-8446-4C49-9618-AFFEF281E4AF@chartermi.net>

PS - Victoria British had them in stock when they were bought out by Moss last year.  Call the brain trust at Moss and ask them what they did with the VB parts.  ?

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Jim via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have a 1960 Bugeye in the process. Can anyone tell me where I can source Part #260-345. (Link. Accelerator Pedal)??
> 
> My moss catalog shows on Page 21, number 8 and is listed N/A.
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> Jim Fournier
> 
> Huguenot N.Y.
> 
> 
> ------------------------
> 
> spridgets at autox.team.net
> 
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From frogeye at cox.net  Mon Sep 27 14:24:45 2021
From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan Fisher)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:24:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal link
Message-ID: <E1372030-AD70-4085-9507-D22A89247A19@cox.net>

I have a few spares here
Alan

Sent from my iPad