From stanbmason at aol.com Wed Oct 6 08:27:07 2021 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Victory Lane Grattan / SMRS 10th References: <1999089070.1495105.1633530427968.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1999089070.1495105.1633530427968@mail.yahoo.com> Spridgets, Victory Lane Magazine is now on line and free.? This has been a great magazine for US Vintage Sports Car Racing through the years and has always treated SMRS well, publishing articles that I have provided.? Chauncy Moran one of our favorite Photographers wrote a great article covering the weekend and our 10th SMRS Anniversary.? Click the following for a view of that article with great shots of many Spridgets as well. https://www.flipsnack.com/victorylane/victory-lane-vol-36-no-9-september-2021/full-view.html I also wrote and article on our 10th Anniversary that was not published, but maybe will show up in a later version. EnjoyStan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stanbmason at aol.com Wed Oct 6 08:28:44 2021 From: stanbmason at aol.com (stanbmason at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Victory Lane Grattan / SMRS 10th In-Reply-To: <1999089070.1495105.1633530427968@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1999089070.1495105.1633530427968.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1999089070.1495105.1633530427968@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1341852101.1499187.1633530524364@mail.yahoo.com> Spridgets, Victory Lane Magazine is now on line and free.? This has been a great magazine for US Vintage Sports Car Racing through the years and has always treated SMRS well, publishing articles that I have provided.? Chauncy Moran one of our favorite Photographers wrote a great article covering the weekend and our 10th SMRS Anniversary.? Click the following for a view of that article with great shots of many Spridgets as well. https://www.flipsnack.com/victorylane/victory-lane-vol-36-no-9-september-2021/full-view.html I also wrote and article on our 10th Anniversary that was not published, but maybe will show up in a later version. EnjoyStan Mason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Wed Oct 6 13:02:11 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:02:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2nd fuel pump Message-ID: At the present time I have a Facet pump mounted at the top of the arch above the axle in my Bugeye. The facet has problems pulling fuel at this location above the tank. I have an ECCO fuel pump to mount in it's place and I intend on mounting it on the vertical sheet metal in front of the tank. Would I have a problem if I just left the Facet pump in place and cut the new pump in line in the lower location? Would fuel flow freely through the Facet pump, or should I just remove it? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jorkin at emory.edu Wed Oct 6 13:37:09 2021 From: jorkin at emory.edu (Orkin, Jack L) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 19:37:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [External] 2nd fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, see these articles by Dave Dubois, courtesy of Dave Braun: http://www.dbraun99.com/Dave%20DuBois/Back_up_Fuel_Pump.pdf http://www.dbraun99.com/Dave%20DuBois/SU_Fuel_Pumps_Facts_and_Myths.pdf http://www.dbraun99.com/Dave%20DuBois/ A Facet pump should be able to pull fuel from that location with no trouble. And, yes, these pumps can pump through each other so putting a spare in line with the working one is easy to do. After changing a pump in an Illinois corn field on a trip, I did just that when I got home. I'll try to attach a picture of what I did. Good luck. Jack Dave DuBois - dbraun99 The Collected Writings of Dave DuBois. Dave DuBois was a gifted technician who started driving MG sport cars early on, and never ceased driving them as his family's "Daily Drivers". www.dbraun99.com SU Fuel Pumps Facts and Myths - dbraun99 Title: Microsoft Word - SU Fuel Pumps Facts and Myths.doc Author: DuBois Created Date: 10/15/2012 8:03:26 PM www.dbraun99.com BACK UP FUEL PUMP by Dave DuBois - dbraun99 BACK UP FUEL PUMP by Dave DuBois Talk about what spares to carry on a trip and just about everyone agrees that a spare fuel pump should be one of the primary items to carry. www.dbraun99.com ________________________________ From: Spridgets on behalf of Michael MacLean via Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 3:02 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [External] [Spridgets] 2nd fuel pump At the present time I have a Facet pump mounted at the top of the arch above the axle in my Bugeye. The facet has problems pulling fuel at this location above the tank. I have an ECCO fuel pump to mount in it's place and I intend on mounting it on the vertical sheet metal in front of the tank. Would I have a problem if I just left the Facet pump in place and cut the new pump in line in the lower location? Would fuel flow freely through the Facet pump, or should I just remove it? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: dualfuelpumps.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1819204 bytes Desc: dualfuelpumps.jpg URL: From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 6 14:34:11 2021 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 13:34:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [External] 2nd fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you have the square Facet, or the round Facet? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 6 15:26:59 2021 From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:26:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [External] 2nd fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had two of the newer, black Posi-Flow Facet pumps fail in short order on my 1966 Mustang. The failures were probably caused by lack of use as I only drive it about once a month. But, when the second one failed I just installed a mechanical pump and it's been working fine. The tank was drained, removed, steam cleaned and reinstalled recently. Also, the Mustang gets non-ethanol gas. I never had trouble with either the metal square pumps or the cylindrical pumps. On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:34 PM Billy Zoom via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Do you have the square Facet, or the round Facet? > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jorkin at emory.edu Thu Oct 7 06:54:59 2021 From: jorkin at emory.edu (Orkin, Jack L) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 12:54:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [External] 2nd fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for the delay. Your message went to my spam. I use the square Facet. See the pic. I posted. Jack Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 4:34:11 PM To: Orkin, Jack L Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net ; Michael MacLean Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [External] 2nd fuel pump Do you have the square Facet, or the round Facet? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From weslake1330 at gmail.com Sat Oct 9 12:03:48 2021 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 19:03:48 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] British motorsport 1964 Message-ID: Hi list, Just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxWl1JnM0cs Regards Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Sat Oct 9 16:31:21 2021 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (Dave and Terri Woerpel) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 17:31:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] British motorsport 1964 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fantastic video!! Love the Roscoe films. Is Rex your father, uncle? Thanks for sharing, Daniel. Will watch again during the long winter months. Best, Dave W. 59 :() 59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI "Pay It Forward" On Sat, Oct 9, 2021, 1:07 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi list, > > Just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxWl1JnM0cs > > Regards > > Daniel > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From weslake1330 at gmail.com Sun Oct 10 11:48:47 2021 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:48:47 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] British motorsport 1964 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nope, my uncles were gardners apart from one who did motoX when he was younger. The person posting the video has a bunch of others he has also put up. On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 at 23:31, Dave and Terri Woerpel wrote: > Fantastic video!! Love the Roscoe films. Is Rex your father, uncle? > Thanks for sharing, Daniel. > Will watch again during the long winter months. > > Best, > Dave W. > > 59 :() > 59 MGA 1500 > > Burlington WI > "Pay It Forward" > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021, 1:07 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> Just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxWl1JnM0cs >> >> Regards >> >> Daniel >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Sat Oct 16 00:20:09 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 23:20:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Feed Message-ID: I have had a fuel delivery problem with my Bugeye for a while now. Finally, the fuel just stopped getting to the engine. The pump was running furiously like it was dry.. Today I installed a ECCO fuel pump (Moss 377-176) on the vertical wall forward of the axle and plumbed it up leaving the little square Facet pump in place just above the axle. The thinking was the fuel would flow right through the old pump I thought no longer worked. After installing the pump and wiring it up, I turned the key. The new pump sounded like it was working. A heck of a lot quieter that the Facet too. The problem was gas was still not getting to the engine. As you can see in the picture the filter I installed between the tank and the pump was bone dry. The pump wasn't picking up fuel from the tank. Tomorrow I will remove the old pump and replace it with fuel line so there is a direct line from the tank to the new pump in case the integral filter in the Facet is clogged. If that doesn't get gas flowing, I have a new Bugeye tank that has been sitting on the shelf for several years. One step at a time. I may just replace the whole system. Who knows, maybe the old Facet was still working. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From lbcs at embarqmail.com Sat Oct 16 16:23:24 2021 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller - LBCs) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 18:23:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas starter question In-Reply-To: <597359871.3802410.1634421147823@mail.yahoo.com> References: <597359871.3802410.1634421147823.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <597359871.3802410.1634421147823@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01d7c2dc$70ab7f00$52027d00$@embarqmail.com> Some tractors used a three hole lucas starter. -Bill From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 5:52 PM To: Spridgets Net; Eastern OSHIT Group Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas starter question We all know spridget starters have 2 opposed bolt hole flanges....right? So what used a 3 bolt mounting flange? Recently aquired one and somewhere in a long ago past I remember seeing one of these but no imprinted " that's what it fits". Same number teeth bendix and field housing and end plate. Any ideas? Thank you!! Chuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Sat Oct 16 18:24:57 2021 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 00:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas 3 bolt starter! References: <1998182629.883225.1634430297013.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1998182629.883225.1634430297013@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Kevin!English Ford 1600cc ( pinto motor) and 2000c ...That explains it!!? ?I rebuilt a 1969 Elden PH10 formula Ford a number of years ago.? 1600cc motor with the 3bolt Lucas starter.Now it comes back to me like a ball peen hammer to the head!? ?LOL!I knew I had seen it before but just could not recall the aplication.Thank you!Chuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From weslake1330 at gmail.com Sun Oct 17 11:35:01 2021 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 18:35:01 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Feed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had that a while ago after I had removed the carb from the manifold and then refitted it. Facet pump was running like the clappers and the engine wouldn't fire. Then I remembered the fuel line was capped at the regulator and plugged on the carb hose (Goodridge all round). So the pump was doing its best against a closed outlet pipe. On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 07:26, Michael MacLean via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have had a fuel delivery problem with my Bugeye for a while now. > Finally, the fuel just stopped getting to the engine. The pump was running > furiously like it was dry.. Today I installed a ECCO fuel pump (Moss > 377-176) on the vertical wall forward of the axle and plumbed it up leaving > the little square Facet pump in place just above the axle. The thinking > was the fuel would flow right through the old pump I thought no longer > worked. After installing the pump and wiring it up, I turned the key. The > new pump sounded like it was working. A heck of a lot quieter that the > Facet too. The problem was gas was still not getting to the engine. As > you can see in the picture the filter I installed between the tank and the > pump was bone dry. The pump wasn't picking up fuel from the tank. Tomorrow > I will remove the old pump and replace it with fuel line so there is a > direct line from the tank to the new pump in case the integral filter in > the Facet is clogged. If that doesn't get gas flowing, I have a new > Bugeye tank that has been sitting on the shelf for several years. One > step at a time. I may just replace the whole system. Who knows, maybe the > old Facet was still working. > Mike MacLean > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslake1330 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Mon Oct 18 23:43:49 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 22:43:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Fuel Tank Message-ID: Do I need to coat the inside of a new fuel tank? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 220caribou at gmail.com Fri Oct 22 18:44:05 2021 From: 220caribou at gmail.com (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 18:44:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank Message-ID: This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward". This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express. If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. As always, PAY IT FORWARD! Mark Haynes It only goes one way- Pay It Forward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmari2 at verizon.net Fri Oct 22 19:11:31 2021 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George Marinos) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 21:11:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5194E823-3663-47CD-9706-4BA34687CAC9@verizon.net> Very well said. The single best way to honor someone who has passed is to talk about them. I had the honor and pleasure to be friends with Frank. To call him and get a part or to get his call and to give a part. ?Frank, I have a hard top I need to give you.? ?I don?t want it.? ?I?ll be down tomorrow and leaving it on the side of your garage.? Miss him as we all do. I got a call from British CAr Magazine wanting to do a feature on Sprites. I called Frank. Franks custom bugeye, another friends restored MKIV and my tired original MKII were on the cover. He really liked being part of that. A long time ago. I still have 4 copies of that issue. Thanks for your posting Mark. George MArinos Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. > I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. > Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward". > This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. > The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. > The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express. > If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. > As always, PAY IT FORWARD! > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way- Pay It Forward > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Oct 22 20:13:18 2021 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 22:13:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: <5194E823-3663-47CD-9706-4BA34687CAC9@verizon.net> References: <5194E823-3663-47CD-9706-4BA34687CAC9@verizon.net> Message-ID: I had the privilege of attending one of the first OSHITs at Peter C's Madison facility many, many years ago. I got to meet many of the list's frequent contributors who, up until then, were only names on a post. That day was all about working on a few projects and eating hometown specials while enjoying the camaraderie of spridget enthusiasts. I remember having scrapple, deep fried turkey, an octopus dish and cheese curds as well as helping put some cars back in better shape... I have met several folks from the list over the years and have had many parts dealings with listers as well. I have always considered listers as "friends that I just haven't met yet". Recently I met a person that I had a transaction with that I kept in touch with over many years. I always said that some day I would be in the area with time to visit and would come meet him. I finally met him and I was amazed how our lives ran on a parallel course. It was because of this meeting that I finally have something on my bucket list! When asked in the past about said list, I never really had anything that I felt that I had to do before the great beyond. I have concluded that going forward, as I do some more traveling, I will make the effort to come meet any lister who is anywhere remotely close to my path. I enjoy camping out of my van and plan to see more of the U.S. in the years to come. When I do, I will reach out on the lists that I subscribe to so I can see if anyone wants to meet after all these years. It's not about the things in your life as much as it is the people in your life that enjoy the same things! I hope to meet you all some day. Kent On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 9:12 PM George Marinos via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Very well said. The single best way to honor someone who has passed is to > talk about them. I had the honor and pleasure to be friends with Frank. > To call him and get a part or to get his call and to give a part. ?Frank, I > have a hard top I need to give you.? ?I don?t want it.? ?I?ll be down > tomorrow and leaving it on the side of your garage.? Miss him as we all > do. I got a call from British CAr Magazine wanting to do a feature on > Sprites. I called Frank. Franks custom bugeye, another friends restored > MKIV and my tired original MKII were on the cover. He really liked being > part of that. A long time ago. I still have 4 copies of that issue. > Thanks for your posting Mark. > George MArinos > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ? > > This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. > > I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and > he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to > help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it > was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. > > Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative > process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long > distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his > motto "Pay it Forward". > > This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my > attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a > long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. > > The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he > believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their > time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I > have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have > acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention > the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. > > The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work > toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, > not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are > great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so > distant is a gift that I cannot express. > > If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If > you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll > meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some > friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to > The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. > > As always, PAY IT FORWARD! > > Mark Haynes > > It only goes one way- Pay It Forward > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2017 Home built shed full of excess spridget parts!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Oct 22 20:17:23 2021 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (cbaustin at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank References: <62532954.329484.1634955443303.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <62532954.329484.1634955443303@mail.yahoo.com> I came to the OSHIT mob a bit late. Frank, and all the?otherfolks I've since?met (and all the give-and-take) have just beengreat, as is any interaction with the Clarici family. ?The overwhelming positive?experience of assisting?in the'Holy Sprite' project?certainly had?an impact on my furtherappreciation and respect for Frank's organizing and support skills. I especially remember (and will never forget) a dinner with Frankand Father Jack where we sorted some issues with the car. And - well, thanks Frank! Charley Braum "Very well said.? The single best way to honor someone who haspassed is to talk about them."? 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Name: FrankClarici.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 526596 bytes Desc: FrankClarici.jpg URL: From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Fri Oct 22 20:42:39 2021 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (Dave and Terri Woerpel) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 21:42:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark my friend, you had me close to tears...not at the passing of Frank, although it wouldn't take much, but for the pure altruism of kindness and service to others. When I took part in the Holy Sprite project I did so because I had to be a part of whatever it was that made folks relay a Sprite from California to New Jersey, tear it apart, restore, and reassemble in 2-3 months and hand it off to a retiring priest. There was something Big at work. All walks of life came together for a common purpose and all have been Paying It Forward ever since. It's Frank's legacy and it's there on the sticker on my toolbox: WWFD? It's why I wrote an article to Vintage Motorsports (IIRC); the world needed to know about Frank. Why can't the world pick up where Frank left off? In some small way it is...with US! Thanks for the reminder Mark and George. Dave W 59 :() 59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI "Pay It Forward" On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 7:43 PM Mark Haynes via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. > I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he > mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to > help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it > was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. > Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative > process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long > distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his > motto "Pay it Forward". > This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my > attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a > long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. > The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he > believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their > time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I > have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have > acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention > the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. > The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work > toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, > not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are > great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so > distant is a gift that I cannot express. > If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've > never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet > like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some > friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to > The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. > As always, PAY IT FORWARD! > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way- Pay It Forward > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Sat Oct 23 01:04:43 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:04:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Doh! Message-ID: I just replaced the fuel tank on my Bugeye today. The coating inside the tank was breaking down and clogging the fuel filter. The fuel pump was also replaced with an ECCO pump. The location of the pump was changed. I had a Facet pump screwed to the top of the arch above the axle. It was a ways to draw the fuel, but the Facet did OK while it worked. The ECCO pump was installed to the vertical panel in front of the axle. Closer to the level of the tank pickup outlet tube. If any of you have installed a fuel tank in a Bugeye, you know what a bitch it is to route the filler neck out the hole in the rubber bung in the rear deck lid. Not a one person job. I was lucky a friend dropped by while I was in the middle of the installation. After all was installed and the fuel tubing was re-routed to accomodate the new pump I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank and turned the key. The fuel pump started clicking, but still no fuel to the engine. What the heck? At this point my back was starting to hurt. I had skinned my right knee and my neck was sore. Somehow being 70 and getting under a Bugeye pushing a fuel tank in place is not the physical therapy I was hoping for. At this point I said screw it. It was time for supper and I decided to take a whack at it tomorrow. Well at about 10 PM, I had a thought. Did I hook up the fuel lines backward? So, I went out to the garage and lay down on the floor to take a look. What I found had me going "Doh" like Homer Simpson. First thing I noticed was the black wire was ground to the body and the red wire to the power connection. My Bugeye is a positive ground car. Tomorrow I switch the wires. "Doh!" Mikke MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Oct 23 05:14:11 2021 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 06:14:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One reason I race a Spridget is that the spirit is still very much alive and well. The silent force behind many OSHITs and what still goes on today is Kevin Valentine. His knowledge and generosity is unparalleled. After many years of never havingvenough space, I finally have a dream garage (attached to a nightmare house). Nothing would make me happier than to plan an OSHIT to properly christen it. My one stipulation is that everyone needs to take parts off my shelves when you go. I can?t believe how much there is. As my great friend Ron Downs says, ?I?ve got more projects left than I do haircuts.? Ron Soave > On Oct 22, 2021, at 9:47 PM, Dave and Terri Woerpel via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Mark my friend, you had me close to tears...not at the passing of Frank, although it wouldn't take much, but for the pure altruism of kindness and service to others. When I took part in the Holy Sprite project I did so because I had to be a part of whatever it was that made folks relay a Sprite from California to New Jersey, tear it apart, restore, and reassemble in 2-3 months and hand it off to a retiring priest. There was something Big at work. All walks of life came together for a common purpose and all have been Paying It Forward ever since. It's Frank's legacy and it's there on the sticker on my toolbox: WWFD? It's why I wrote an article to Vintage Motorsports (IIRC); the world needed to know about Frank. Why can't the world pick up where Frank left off? In some small way it is...with US! > > Thanks for the reminder Mark and George. > > Dave W > > 59 :() > 59 MGA 1500 > > Burlington WI > > "Pay It Forward" > >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 7:43 PM Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: >> This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. >> I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. >> Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward". >> This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. >> The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. >> The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express. >> If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. >> As always, PAY IT FORWARD! >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ron.corry.iol at gmail.com Sat Oct 23 06:54:18 2021 From: ron.corry.iol at gmail.com (Ron Corry) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:54:18 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mark, Well, you certainly wet my eyes this morning. What a wonderful expression of altruism and kindness! And also, so heart-warming to read the other posts commenting favourably on your post and reminiscing on joyful occasions in the past. Thank you all. I was privileged to visit with Frank in the late 1990s, when he showed me around his cars, his workshop and then entertained myself and my sons with his family. We had driven from Albany NY, (whilst on holiday there), to Toms River, to get to meet the great man. Just what a character he was, and his all-too-early passing was, and remains, such a loss. I still recall that afternoon/evening with such mixed happiness and sadness at what now cannot be replicated. However, Frank's spirit lives on. Only three weeks ago, at a meeting of our recently formed Ireland Area of the Midget and Sprite Club, I introduced the concept of an OSHIT (to some hilarity), and having explained its origin and purpose, we agreed to hold one early next year! One of our members is busy with work and life and is bogged down in his Midget 1500 rebuild. Thankfully, his wife has also bought into the idea, and all we need to do now is to set the date once we see what 2022 looks like, Covid-19 wise. I am really looking forward to this event. Thank you, Mark, for such an inspirational post and also again for your most welcome package earlier this year with a part for my spare 1275 Ital engine. You truly live the maxim, "Pay It Forward". Kindest regards, Ron, in Ireland. On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 01:43, Mark Haynes via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. > I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he > mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to > help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it > was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. > Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative > process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long > distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his > motto "Pay it Forward". > This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my > attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a > long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. > The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he > believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their > time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I > have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have > acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention > the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. > The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work > toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, > not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are > great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so > distant is a gift that I cannot express. > If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've > never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet > like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some > friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to > The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. > As always, PAY IT FORWARD! > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way- Pay It Forward > ------------------------ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 23 09:01:30 2021 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 11:01:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Doh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not exactly that, but BTDT many times. ?Doh? is right. Larry > On Oct 23, 2021, at 3:04 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > > I just replaced the fuel tank on my Bugeye today. The coating inside the tank was breaking down and clogging the fuel filter. The fuel pump was also replaced with an ECCO pump. The location of the pump was changed. I had a Facet pump screwed to the top of the arch above the axle. It was a ways to draw the fuel, but the Facet did OK while it worked. The ECCO pump was installed to the vertical panel in front of the axle. Closer to the level of the tank pickup outlet tube. If any of you have installed a fuel tank in a Bugeye, you know what a bitch it is to route the filler neck out the hole in the rubber bung in the rear deck lid. Not a one person job. I was lucky a friend dropped by while I was in the middle of the installation. > After all was installed and the fuel tubing was re-routed to accomodate the new pump I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank and turned the key. The fuel pump started clicking, but still no fuel to the engine. What the heck? At this point my back was starting to hurt. I had skinned my right knee and my neck was sore. Somehow being 70 and getting under a Bugeye pushing a fuel tank in place is not the physical therapy I was hoping for. At this point I said screw it. It was time for supper and I decided to take a whack at it tomorrow. > Well at about 10 PM, I had a thought. Did I hook up the fuel lines backward? So, I went out to the garage and lay down on the floor to take a look. What I found had me going "Doh" like Homer Simpson. First thing I noticed was the black wire was ground to the body and the red wire to the power connection. My Bugeye is a positive ground car. Tomorrow I switch the wires. "Doh!" > Mikke MacLean > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at mac.com Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 23 09:29:08 2021 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:29:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank Message-ID: <41786f5392f69a6726c022dd600196a45a73afce@webmail> I still have Father Jack's old Midget (which Frank worked on for him).. the one he sold to raise funds for work on the Holy Sprite. A back injury several years ago has left me largely unable to work on it, so it's been sitting in my garage all this time. If any lister is interested in it, I'd love to see it go to someone who knew Frank. I have a bunch of used spare parts you're welcome to rifle through too, lol. -Nory On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 01:43, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward". This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express. If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. As always, PAY IT FORWARD! Mark Haynes It only goes one way- Pay It Forward ------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fogbro1 at comcast.net Sat Oct 23 09:36:51 2021 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 11:36:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Like old times! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: O o. M Sent from my o phone o. open toolbox i. O O oo o > On Sep 2, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Rick Fisk via > Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Cool! > >>> On Sep 2, 2021, >>> at 12:51 PM, brian S via Spridgets wrote: >>> >> ?lol o P. O >> My Aunt's name is on the side of #73. >> She was part of the Ring y O T O.a >> kindly of $$. >> Now, that's a down payment...sigh. T. Pp. t >> >> Brian S. >> Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.! >> >> From: Spridgets on behalf of Ron Soave via Spridgets >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 7:29 AM >> To: Rick Fisk >> Cc: Spridgets >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Like old times! >> >> The Sprites Rick mentions: >> >> >> >> Ron Soave >> >> > On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:03 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: >> > >> > ?It was great to meet Howard and get lapped by Ron (again). We had two factory Sprite race cars with fuel injected A-series engines with 8 port heads brought up from Texas to take part in the festivities. We had a great turnout of Sprites and Midgets and a good time! >> > >> > Rick >> > >> >> On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Ron Soave via Spridgets wrote: >> >> >> >> ?Howard Collins made it out from Virginia Beach to Grattan Raceway in Michigan this weekend to watch the VSCDA vintage races along with the 10th anniversary of our Spridget race series. What a great pleasure to meet a 20+ year list mate, and looking forward to other opportunities to hang out. In the past this list had many such meet-ups, and it was great to do it again. We put on a pretty good show, thankfully! Great weekend!! >> >> >> >> Ron Soave >> >> ------------------------ >> >> >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net >> > >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fogbro1 at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 23 17:06:19 2021 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 23:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Doh! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <759657071.978963.1635030379812@mail.yahoo.com> OK, I was wrong again.? I have the wires and fuel lines hooked up correctly.? I thought I had the black wire going to ground until I got under the car and saw the black wire to ground had a red stripe.? The other wire was all black and went to power.? So everything is hooked up correctly for a positive ground car, but it is still not drawing fuel from the tank.? The only original parts in this system now is a small portion of steel fuel line that exits the tank for the pickup in the new fuel tank, the steel fuel line that runs from the output side of the pump.? It is connected to the pump with a short piece of rubber fuel line..? That original steel line then runs under the car to the engine compartment and connects to the single HIF44 carb with a piece of flexible line.? There is a filter installed in this flexible hose line.? There is also a filter cut into the flexible line just before the "in" connection of the pump coming from the tank.? Still no fuel draw.? It's not a weak battery.? I charged it all night on a float charger.? Does the ECCO fuel pump have to be primed?? I'm stumped.Mike MacLean On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 08:02:05 AM PDT, Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: Not ?exactly that, but BTDT many times. ?Doh? is right. Larry On Oct 23, 2021, at 3:04 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: ? ? ?I just replaced the fuel tank on my Bugeye today.? The coating inside the tank was breaking down and clogging the fuel filter.? The fuel pump was also replaced with an ECCO pump.? The location of the pump was changed.? I had a Facet pump screwed to the top of the arch above the axle.? It was a ways to draw the fuel, but the Facet did OK while it worked.? The ECCO pump was installed to the vertical panel in front of the axle.? Closer to the level of the tank pickup outlet tube.? If any of you have installed a fuel tank in a Bugeye, you know what a bitch it is to route the filler neck out the hole in the rubber bung in the rear deck lid.? Not a one person job.? I was lucky a friend dropped by while I was in the middle of the installation.??? ? ?After all was installed and the fuel tubing was re-routed to accomodate the new pump I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank and turned the key.? The fuel pump started clicking, but still no fuel to the engine.? What the heck? At this point my back was starting to hurt.? I had skinned my right knee and my neck was sore.? Somehow being 70 and getting under a Bugeye pushing a fuel tank in place? is not the physical therapy I was hoping for.? At this point I said screw it.? It was time for supper and I decided to take a whack at it tomorrow.??? ? Well at about 10 PM, I had a thought.? Did I hook up the fuel lines backward?? So, I went out to the garage and lay down on the floor to take a look.? What I found had me going "Doh" like Homer Simpson.? First thing I noticed was the black wire was ground to the body and the red wire to the power connection.? My Bugeye is a positive ground car. Tomorrow I switch the wires.? "Doh!"Mikke MacLean------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets ?http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com --? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at mac.com Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpaschke at bak.rr.com Sat Oct 23 17:49:55 2021 From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 16:49:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Doh! In-Reply-To: <759657071.978963.1635030379812@mail.yahoo.com> References: <759657071.978963.1635030379812@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71d949af-b9d8-9dfc-ba40-e172a0f4e822@bak.rr.com> Hi Mike, I use the old fashion method of priming the pump. Take the gas cap off and blow some air pressure into the tank and it will force fuel to the pump and vola primed pump. I have to do my Sprite every year I take it out of storage. Jon On 10/23/2021 4:06 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > OK, I was wrong again.? I have the wires and fuel lines hooked up > correctly.? I thought I had the black wire going to ground until I got > under the car and saw the black wire to ground had a red stripe.? The > other wire was all black and went to power.? So everything is hooked > up correctly for a positive ground car, but it is still not drawing > fuel from the tank.? The only original parts in this system now is a > small portion of steel fuel line that exits the tank for the pickup in > the new fuel tank, the steel fuel line that runs from the output side > of the pump.? It is connected to the pump with a short piece of rubber > fuel line..? That original steel line then runs under the car to the > engine compartment and connects to the single HIF44 carb with a piece > of flexible line.? There is a filter installed in this flexible hose > line.? There is also a filter cut into the flexible line just before > the "in" connection of the pump coming from the tank.? Still no fuel > draw.? It's not a weak battery.? I charged it all night on a float > charger.? Does the ECCO fuel pump have to be primed?? I'm stumped. > Mike MacLean > On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 08:02:05 AM PDT, Larry Macy via > Spridgets wrote: > > > Not ?exactly that, but BTDT many times. ?Doh? is right. > > Larry > >> On Oct 23, 2021, at 3:04 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets >> > wrote: >> >> ? ? ?I just replaced the fuel tank on my Bugeye today. The coating >> inside the tank was breaking down and clogging the fuel filter.? The >> fuel pump was also replaced with an ECCO pump. The location of the >> pump was changed.? I had a Facet pump screwed to the top of the arch >> above the axle.? It was a ways to draw the fuel, but the Facet did OK >> while it worked. The ECCO pump was installed to the vertical panel in >> front of the axle.? Closer to the level of the tank pickup outlet >> tube.? If any of you have installed a fuel tank in a Bugeye, you know >> what a bitch it is to route the filler neck out the hole in the >> rubber bung in the rear deck lid.? Not a one person job.? I was lucky >> a friend dropped by while I was in the middle of the installation. >> ? ? ?After all was installed and the fuel tubing was re-routed to >> accomodate the new pump I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank >> and turned the key.? The fuel pump started clicking, but still no >> fuel to the engine.? What the heck? At this point my back was >> starting to hurt.? I had skinned my right knee and my neck was sore. >> Somehow being 70 and getting under a Bugeye pushing a fuel tank in >> place? is not the physical therapy I was hoping for.? At this point I >> said screw it.? It was time for supper and I decided to take a whack >> at it tomorrow. >> ? ? Well at about 10 PM, I had a thought.? Did I hook up the fuel >> lines backward?? So, I went out to the garage and lay down on the >> floor to take a look.? What I found had me going "Doh" like Homer >> Simpson.? First thing I noticed was the black wire was ground to the >> body and the red wire to the power connection.? My Bugeye is a >> positive ground car. Tomorrow I switch the wires. "Doh!" >> Mikke MacLean >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at mac.com > > > Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned > and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat > money > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jpaschke at bak.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lmacy at mac.com Sun Oct 24 06:48:42 2021 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 08:48:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F9672A0-0523-4646-9575-FB1108596472@mac.com> Mark, Thanks you for this email. Frank was AWESOME. I could leave this email at that and everyone who ever met Frank would understand. I met Frrank virtual in Oct of 1997. I was on the MG Autox list and there was announcement of a new list for ?SPRIDGETS? I think I was number 4 in subscribing, It was Franks insistence that made Mark (mjb) create this list. A while later I was in need of a pumpkin. Frank said he had one so I drove from Lansdale PA to Toms River. Frank was gracious and would not take anything for it. He just handed it to me. Instant respect and friendship. A few years later, and I am not sure of the date a group of us, Frank, Allen Hefner, Chuck Crist and Kevin Valentine (I hope I didn't forget anyone) went to Latrobe, PA (home of Rolling Rock beer) to work on Amy?s Sprite. We spent the weekend (and boy was her tub a mess after we had all showered) fixing up her car. I had the honor of first drive. A while later we repeated the group going to help fix up another car (it might have been Chris King?s, I don?t recall). Well since we all enjoyed doing this we figured we might need a name. There were a few bandied about. One I remember was CRAPOS, I don?t recall what that stood for, but I suggested Organization of Spridget Hanymen In Transit and OSHIT was born. (I always wonder how many folks actually realize what OSHIT stands for). After that we did a lot more transiting as handymen and worked on a lot of cars. We did a lot at Frank?s and Kevin?s. My Midget was reborn at Kevin?s. When my first wife left me for my best friend, it was Frank and Ron that reached out and took me to see Bruce Springsteen. I drove to Toms River and Frank and I drove to the Meadowlands, in his Sprite, to see the show. At that time I only had the Midget, with no top, as my car and I drove home at 1 AM in a drizzle. My Midget 1500 had gotten a few upgrades over the years. I had a Weber, 5 speed transmission, hi compression pistons and a mild street cam. One day, in Toms River, Franks asked me to take him for a ride. So we did his ?loop?. He said he hadn?t realized how fast a 1500 could be. Boy did I smile. Eventually, my Midget had gotten to the point of body rot so bad it was not worth fixing. So I bought a shell in good shape and had it trailered to Toms River. The OSHIT crew got together and fixed that shell up like new. It was in Frank?s garage, in primer when word came that Frank had suddenly passed. What the shock that was. Well, the thing that Frank was inspirational for, the OSHIT idea, has thankfully remained alive. I no longer have a Midget, I sold in 2019 to a relative of Kevin?s so I could live, full time, in an RV. Frank was my friend, he is missed. Larry Here are linkks to my tribute to Frank at the Midget 50th in Elkhart Lake. First kink is a video, second is my powerpoint with pics and Frankisms. https://www.dropbox.com/s/svm5fepeowwkq3k/Larry%20Macy%20Tribute%20-%20Frank%20Clarici.mpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kanf3n84aa1q0i4/Frank_Memorial.pptx?dl=0 > On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: > > This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. > I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. > Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward". > This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. > The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. > The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express. > If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. > As always, PAY IT FORWARD! > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way- Pay It Forward > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at mac.com Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ddoiron at cox.net Mon Oct 25 20:49:17 2021 From: ddoiron at cox.net (David Doiron) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 19:49:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Spridgets] Roller bearings...again Message-ID: <1917652521.1423897.1635216557196@myemail.cox.net> Dear List, Every so often the old chestnut of putting roller bearings in the front hubs of Sprites is resurrected. Seems like a good idea no? NO!!! Just saw it again in an article in the November Healey Marque on converting a Sprite to disc brakes. Here is my experience. When I changed my Sprite to front disc brakes back in the mid 60s, I went right out and got the roller bearings and did that conversion as well. And then I broke a swivel axle. "Bad part" I thought, and fitted a new one. Some months later the other side broke. Then the old heads at the shop clued me in: The weak link in the Sprite front suspension is NOT the bearing! I went back to the ball bearings WITH the correct distance piece, and have in the following 53 years put a cumulative 450,000 miles on 3 of my Sprites. There have been no further swivel axle failures. The "why" goes something like this: Ball bearings with spacer done up tight give the swivel axle an effective diameter that includes the inner races as well as the spacer. Roller bearings cannot use the spacer, so the net size of the swivel axle (read "strength") is effectively less than factory design. Add to that the age of the parts, the variation in the materials over the years, and (the biggie) the wider tires used today. The risk of breaking a swivel axle is greatly increased with roller bearings, UNLESS you NEVER drive the car in a Spritely manner! In both of the cases where my swivel axles broke, steering became unpredictable. If I had been on a mountain road, or crossed over into opposing traffic, my fate would have also been unpredictable. The original designers at Austin had it right. Please call with any questions, W David Doiron...ex BMC mechanic 602-550-3583 From jorkin at emory.edu Tue Oct 26 05:15:17 2021 From: jorkin at emory.edu (Orkin, Jack L) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:15:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [External] Roller bearings...again In-Reply-To: <1917652521.1423897.1635216557196@myemail.cox.net> References: <1917652521.1423897.1635216557196@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: Hello David, you are right about the weakness of the stub axle without the spacer. But, your information is 50 yrs. old. With the new roller bearing kits you keep the spacer. I went with the rollers after I replaced the ball bearings and there was too much endplay and no way to adjust. With the rollers you can shim them for proper end play. I only have about 5000 miles on them but they seem to be working just fine. Many people prefer the ball bearings but I think the new roller kits are a reasonable alternative. (my view is from a street use, not racing. I have no experience with racing set ups.) Here is an article that explains exactly what you were mentioning: https://www.mgexp.com/article/mg-midget-and-sprite-front-wheel-bearings.271 Jack [https://www.asnstatic.com/article/mgb/mg-midget-wheel-bearings/original-bearings.jpg] MG Midget & Sprite Front Wheel Bearings : How-To Library : The MG Experience Here's an interesting thing: there should be no reason why tapered roller bearings could not be used in the Midget hub. If the inner bearing that is used has the necessary 2mm radius to clear the base of the stub axle, and if the whole assembly is shimmed properly, using the spacer between the two bearings (following the MGB shimming procedure). www.mgexp.com ________________________________ From: Spridgets on behalf of David Doiron via Spridgets Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 10:49 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [External] [Spridgets] Roller bearings...again Dear List, Every so often the old chestnut of putting roller bearings in the front hubs of Sprites is resurrected. Seems like a good idea no? NO!!! Just saw it again in an article in the November Healey Marque on converting a Sprite to disc brakes. Here is my experience. When I changed my Sprite to front disc brakes back in the mid 60s, I went right out and got the roller bearings and did that conversion as well. And then I broke a swivel axle. "Bad part" I thought, and fitted a new one. Some months later the other side broke. Then the old heads at the shop clued me in: The weak link in the Sprite front suspension is NOT the bearing! I went back to the ball bearings WITH the correct distance piece, and have in the following 53 years put a cumulative 450,000 miles on 3 of my Sprites. There have been no further swivel axle failures. The "why" goes something like this: Ball bearings with spacer done up tight give the swivel axle an effective diameter that includes the inner races as well as the spacer. Roller bearings cannot use the spacer, so the net size of the swivel axle (read "strength") is effectively less than factory design. Add to that the age of the parts, the variation in the materials over the years, and (the biggie) the wider tires used today. The risk of breaking a swivel axle is greatly increased with roller bearings, UNLESS you NEVER drive the car in a Spritely manner! In both of the cases where my swivel axles broke, steering became unpredictable. If I had been on a mountain road, or crossed over into opposing traffic, my fate would have also been unpredictable. The original designers at Austin had it right. 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With the Facet pump it would take a little longer to fire up. Now it won't idle, but I attribute that to old gas sitting in the carb for over eight months. I plan to take it out tomorrow and try to blow it out on the freeway. If that doesn't do it. The single HIF44 carb comes off for disassembly and cleaning. Woohoo! Alive! Just in time for the new gas prices. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20211026_170400.mp4 Type: video/mp4 Size: 7173361 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ddoiron at cox.net Tue Oct 26 20:09:27 2021 From: ddoiron at cox.net (David Doiron) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 19:09:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Spridgets] Roller Bearings Message-ID: <1529756129.1462727.1635300567849@myemail.cox.net> Well Folks, I have been caught with my hair trigger showing. I fired a shot across the bow too soon! I failed to notice that the Moss kit uses a spacer. That makes all the difference. Moss sourced bearings are purpose fitted, and should be used with the spacer. American cars didn't use spacers so mechanics who were familiar with that arrangement would be tempted to leave them out. Back when I did it, the only source was a generic bearing supply, and THOSE bearings were not compatible with the spacer. (which I luckily kept!) And yes, I did the conversion when the MkII came out, so my stub axles were the early version. Ergo the metallurgy was not as strong as the later stub axles. BUT Since used items are a common source of stub axles these days, you might be looking at early versions. It would be safer to use the later part #s. (If anybody wants those numbers ask me). I have never seen an aluminum spacer. All the factory spacers I've seen were dimensionally stable cast iron. Regarding the statement that the threads would strip before the nut was tight enough to add strength to the stub axle, I say show me the math. Every stress diagram I can imagine indicates that the spacer adds strength. W David Doiron...ex BMC mechanic From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Oct 26 21:16:19 2021 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:16:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Roller Bearings In-Reply-To: <1529756129.1462727.1635300567849@myemail.cox.net> References: <1529756129.1462727.1635300567849@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <45D970C2-5474-4FF0-911B-AD85EC066971@chartermi.net> I agree David, the spacer adds a lot of strength to the assembly. I still use roller bearings. :-) > On Oct 26, 2021, at 10:10 PM, David Doiron via Spridgets wrote: > > ?Well Folks, > I have been caught with my hair trigger showing. > I fired a shot across the bow too soon! > I failed to notice that the Moss kit uses a spacer. > > That makes all the difference. > Moss sourced bearings are purpose fitted, and should be used with the spacer. > American cars didn't use spacers so mechanics who were familiar with that > arrangement would be tempted to leave them out. > > Back when I did it, the only source was a generic bearing supply, and > THOSE bearings were not compatible with the spacer. (which I luckily kept!) > > And yes, I did the conversion when the MkII came out, so my stub axles were the > early version. Ergo the metallurgy was not as strong as the later stub axles. > BUT > Since used items are a common source of stub axles these days, you might > be looking at early versions. It would be safer to use the later part #s. > (If anybody wants those numbers ask me). > > I have never seen an aluminum spacer. All the factory spacers I've seen > were dimensionally stable cast iron. > > Regarding the statement that the threads would strip before the nut was > tight enough to add strength to the stub axle, I say show me the math. > Every stress diagram I can imagine indicates that the spacer adds strength. > > W David Doiron...ex BMC mechanic > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Wed Oct 27 02:01:24 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 01:01:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Facet pumps for cheap! Message-ID: Now that I got the ECCO fuel pump working I find myself with two brand new Facet fuel pumps. They have never been mounted or hooked up electrically. I don't need them. If you want one I will ship it via the Post Office to you. You can have a new Facet pump for $30 plus shipping. Moss sells this same model pump for $100! After tax and shipping it becomes a very expensive pump. So, if you need one of these pumps let me know. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Sun Oct 31 22:19:46 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:19:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Left stub axle wanted Message-ID: Anyone have a left stub axle for disc brakes they would sell?. Converting to disc brakes on my Bugeye and left stub axle is the only missing piece. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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