From lesterewing at mac.com Fri Dec 3 12:57:01 2021 From: lesterewing at mac.com (Lester Ewing) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 13:57:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!! NEW EMAIL ADDRESS In-Reply-To: <001BCDDE-523B-421B-A608-69A990236FB6@mac.com> References: <01f98a9d-0036-d785-47fa-167cff343f76@gmail.com> <001BCDDE-523B-421B-A608-69A990236FB6@mac.com> Message-ID: <6E15F1D1-4BD7-43B4-A905-FC4ADD6BBE98@mac.com> I didn?t see it either? Lester > On Nov 24, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: > > Well, I didn?t see this email so I have no way t confirm I got it. > > > >> On Nov 24, 2021, at 11:17 AM, David Woerpel via Spridgets > wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> I don't think my new email address got to you. My former provider has dropped service as of November 1st. Can you please switch to my new address? >> >> Old address was: dwoerpel at wi.net >> >> New address is: dtwoerpel at gmail.com Note the "t". >> >> I tried to go to the "manage" page but my address had changed by then. I miss the list! I was on Spridgets, MGs, & Austin Healeys. >> >> Please acknowledge receipt of this email. It will be a Happy Thanksgiving if I can get back on the lists. >> >> Enjoy the holiday and know how thankful we all are for your efforts. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> David Woerpel >> >> '59 :{) >> '59 MGA 1500 >> Burlington WI >> "Pay It Forward" >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > > ? > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at mac.com > > > ?Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,? he said. ?Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don?t just give up.? > ~Stephen Hawking > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 23:44:29 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 22:44:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch Message-ID: You guys that have a Datsun 5 speed trans conversion using a modified flywheel to accept a Datsun clutch assembly by Paul A., can you tell me what slave cylinder you are you using? Also, can you describe your pedal feel. I have always had a very stiff pedal that more or less acts like an on and off switch. All the action is a few inches up from the floor. Moving from a standing start is difficult, but once moving, changing gears is not a problem. Very difficult not to chirp the tires in 1st or reverse. I am using the 948 slave cylinder which according to Paul A. would be OK. Just not fun to drive this way. I have just converted to disc brakes using a 3/4" Lockheed master. Nothing will change for the clutch as I had my original 7/8" master with a 3/4" sleeve on the clutch side. Have been thinking of re-engineering the clutch back to a 1275 clutch with a Spridget slave. I don't want to go to the expense if it won't change anything. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Zormecteon at comcast.net Wed Dec 8 08:39:29 2021 From: Zormecteon at comcast.net (Bill L.) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 07:39:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <821523390.20211208073929@comcast.net> Hello Michael, When we put it together Paul just re-used the slave from the tranny on the 1098. I believe we have the slave adjusted "all the way out" so that the take up is not at the top of the pedal range, nor just off the floor. We also used the original master. I don't have the problem that you have at all. Easy to slip the clutch and the engagement f -- Best regards, Bill mailto:Zormecteon at comcast.net Listen to sermon, THEN eat missionary! From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Dec 8 09:34:53 2021 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 11:34:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch In-Reply-To: <821523390.20211208073929@comcast.net> References: <821523390.20211208073929@comcast.net> Message-ID: <80742557-8EB8-46FE-B835-10251A9CDE17@chartermi.net> I have an uninstalled Rivergate kit in my garage. It came with a Datsun slave cylinder and a modified Datsun clutch disc. You use the standard A-series flywheel and pressure plate. Go figure. :-) > On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Bill L. via Spridgets wrote: > > ?Hello Michael, > > > When we put it together Paul just re-used the slave from the tranny on the 1098. > I believe we have the slave adjusted "all the way out" so that the take up is not at the top of the pedal range, nor just off the floor. > We also used the original master. > I don't have the problem that you have at all. Easy to slip the clutch and the engagement f > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:Zormecteon at comcast.net > > > Listen to sermon, THEN eat missionary! > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 17:27:03 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 16:27:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch In-Reply-To: <171c3702-665b-98c4-f31d-c807c5734764@gmail.com> References: <171c3702-665b-98c4-f31d-c807c5734764@gmail.com> Message-ID: We have decided that without pulling the engine and looking what's going on in the bell housing, we're done with the clutch for now. Another problem now is with the brake pedal. The whole purpose of this was to switch to disc brakes from the original drums. I swapped the old master with a 7/8" bore to a new AP Lockheed master with dual 3/4" bores as per disc brake 1098/1275 Spridgets up to 1967. I used the old 7/8" brake pushrod that was 4 - 1/8" long and cut it down to 3- 11/16" in length. The clutch pushrod was already cut down for the 3/4" sleeve in the original master to accommodate the Datsun clutch. After bleeding the brakes and clutch, the clutch is just as it was with the old master cylinder, but the brake pedal goes half way to the floor before becoming solid. Brakes work OK, but the excessive travel in the pedal is a mystery. If there was air in the system, you could pump it up to have the pedal at the top, but pumping the brake pedal makes no difference. No air in the system, so what could it be? Mike M On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 10:16 AM Jeff Kelly wrote: > Michael et all, > > I have a Rivergate kit. When I installed I used the modified Datsun > clutch disk , spridget 1275 flywheel and the billet slave cylinder they > supplied. I think it is a 7/8" slave. My master is a3/4" bore. Went to > 3/4" when I converted to front disc brakes. The clutch system did not > work out too well. I burned up 2 disks before I sent my flywheel to > Gerard and had it drilled for the Datsun clutch plate and disk. Works > better, but still needs some adjusting. To completely disengage, my > pedal is all the way to the floor. I wonder if a 7/8" master would work > better. Long range I plan to install seperate brake and clutch masters > and us a 7/8" for the clutch. > > Jeff Kelly > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Dec 8 17:37:31 2021 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:37:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D2592DE-0B22-400A-BA76-19307C5457DD@chartermi.net> Mike, How much play do you have between the pedal and pushrods? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > We have decided that without pulling the engine and looking what's going on in the bell housing, we're done with the clutch for now. Another problem now is with the brake pedal. The whole purpose of this was to switch to disc brakes from the original drums. I swapped the old master with a 7/8" bore to a new AP Lockheed master with dual 3/4" bores as per disc brake 1098/1275 Spridgets up to 1967. I used the old 7/8" brake pushrod that was 4 - 1/8" long and cut it down to 3- 11/16" in length. The clutch pushrod was already cut down for the 3/4" sleeve in the original master to accommodate the Datsun clutch. After bleeding the brakes and clutch, the clutch is just as it was with the old master cylinder, but the brake pedal goes half way to the floor before becoming solid. Brakes work OK, but the excessive travel in the pedal is a mystery. If there was air in the system, you could pump it up to have the pedal at the top, but pumping the brake pedal makes no difference. No air in the system, so what could it be? > Mike M > >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 10:16 AM Jeff Kelly wrote: >> Michael et all, >> >> I have a Rivergate kit. When I installed I used the modified Datsun >> clutch disk , spridget 1275 flywheel and the billet slave cylinder they >> supplied. I think it is a 7/8" slave. My master is a3/4" bore. Went to >> 3/4" when I converted to front disc brakes. The clutch system did not >> work out too well. I burned up 2 disks before I sent my flywheel to >> Gerard and had it drilled for the Datsun clutch plate and disk. Works >> better, but still needs some adjusting. To completely disengage, my >> pedal is all the way to the floor. I wonder if a 7/8" master would work >> better. Long range I plan to install seperate brake and clutch masters >> and us a 7/8" for the clutch. >> >> Jeff Kelly >> > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 18:27:09 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:27:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch In-Reply-To: <2D2592DE-0B22-400A-BA76-19307C5457DD@chartermi.net> References: <2D2592DE-0B22-400A-BA76-19307C5457DD@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Adjusted. Close, but not contacting the bolt stop. Mike M On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 4:37 PM Rick Fisk wrote: > Mike, > > How much play do you have between the pedal and pushrods? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 8, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > We have decided that without pulling the engine and looking what's going > on in the bell housing, we're done with the clutch for now. Another > problem now is with the brake pedal. The whole purpose of this was to > switch to disc brakes from the original drums. I swapped the old master > with a 7/8" bore to a new AP Lockheed master with dual 3/4" bores as per > disc brake 1098/1275 Spridgets up to 1967. I used the old 7/8" brake > pushrod that was 4 - 1/8" long and cut it down to 3- 11/16" in length. The > clutch pushrod was already cut down for the 3/4" sleeve in the original > master to accommodate the Datsun clutch. After bleeding the brakes and > clutch, the clutch is just as it was with the old master cylinder, but the > brake pedal goes half way to the floor before becoming solid. Brakes work > OK, but the excessive travel in the pedal is a mystery. If there was air > in the system, you could pump it up to have the pedal at the top, but > pumping the brake pedal makes no difference. No air in the system, so what > could it be? > Mike M > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 10:16 AM Jeff Kelly wrote: > >> Michael et all, >> >> I have a Rivergate kit. When I installed I used the modified Datsun >> clutch disk , spridget 1275 flywheel and the billet slave cylinder they >> supplied. I think it is a 7/8" slave. My master is a3/4" bore. Went to >> 3/4" when I converted to front disc brakes. The clutch system did not >> work out too well. I burned up 2 disks before I sent my flywheel to >> Gerard and had it drilled for the Datsun clutch plate and disk. Works >> better, but still needs some adjusting. To completely disengage, my >> pedal is all the way to the floor. I wonder if a 7/8" master would work >> better. Long range I plan to install seperate brake and clutch masters >> and us a 7/8" for the clutch. >> >> Jeff Kelly >> >> ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Dec 8 20:36:44 2021 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:36:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I should have said how much play between the pushrod and pistons? > On Dec 8, 2021, at 8:27 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ? > Adjusted. Close, but not contacting the bolt stop. > Mike M > >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 4:37 PM Rick Fisk wrote: >> Mike, >> >> How much play do you have between the pedal and pushrods? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> We have decided that without pulling the engine and looking what's going on in the bell housing, we're done with the clutch for now. Another problem now is with the brake pedal. The whole purpose of this was to switch to disc brakes from the original drums. I swapped the old master with a 7/8" bore to a new AP Lockheed master with dual 3/4" bores as per disc brake 1098/1275 Spridgets up to 1967. I used the old 7/8" brake pushrod that was 4 - 1/8" long and cut it down to 3- 11/16" in length. The clutch pushrod was already cut down for the 3/4" sleeve in the original master to accommodate the Datsun clutch. After bleeding the brakes and clutch, the clutch is just as it was with the old master cylinder, but the brake pedal goes half way to the floor before becoming solid. Brakes work OK, but the excessive travel in the pedal is a mystery. If there was air in the system, you could pump it up to have the pedal at the top, but pumping the brake pedal makes no difference. No air in the system, so what could it be? >>> Mike M >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 10:16 AM Jeff Kelly wrote: >>>> Michael et all, >>>> >>>> I have a Rivergate kit. When I installed I used the modified Datsun >>>> clutch disk , spridget 1275 flywheel and the billet slave cylinder they >>>> supplied. I think it is a 7/8" slave. My master is a3/4" bore. Went to >>>> 3/4" when I converted to front disc brakes. The clutch system did not >>>> work out too well. I burned up 2 disks before I sent my flywheel to >>>> Gerard and had it drilled for the Datsun clutch plate and disk. Works >>>> better, but still needs some adjusting. To completely disengage, my >>>> pedal is all the way to the floor. I wonder if a 7/8" master would work >>>> better. Long range I plan to install seperate brake and clutch masters >>>> and us a 7/8" for the clutch. >>>> >>>> Jeff Kelly >>>> >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Dec 10 16:19:42 2021 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:19:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel lines for Bugeye with a 1275 engine Message-ID: Listerati, I am getting back on the upgrade to my Bugeye. When I got the car it had a 948 engine, the fuel line was rubber from the tank (actually the replacement electric pump} to the engine. Since the 1275 doesn't have a block mounted fuel pump I need to replace the fuel line and feel it would be best to use something more durable than rubber. Any suggestions? thanks, Hal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Dec 10 16:32:05 2021 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel lines for Bugeye with a 1275 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where is your pump located? The Bugeye originally had a steel line all the way from the tank to the engine mounted mechanical pump, with no rubber hoses at all. If your electric pump is mounted in front of the rear axle I would install a steel line from there to the engine with a short rubber hose connecting the steel line to the front carb. Rick > On Dec 10, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > Listerati, I am getting back on the upgrade to my Bugeye. When I got the car it had a 948 engine, the fuel line was rubber from the tank (actually the replacement electric pump} to the engine. Since the 1275 doesn't have a block mounted fuel pump I need to replace the fuel line and feel it would be best to use something more durable than rubber. Any suggestions? > thanks, Hal > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Dec 10 16:37:19 2021 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:37:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel lines for Bugeye with a 1275 engine In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Thanks for the quick reply Rick. Pump is mounted just forward of the rear axle. Any suggestions where to source such a fuel line? Hal On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 3:32 PM Rick Fisk wrote: > Where is your pump located? The Bugeye originally had a steel line all > the way from the tank to the engine mounted mechanical pump, with no rubber > hoses at all. If your electric pump is mounted in front of the rear axle I > would install a steel line from there to the engine with a short rubber > hose connecting the steel line to the front carb. > > Rick > > > On Dec 10, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ? > > Listerati, I am getting back on the upgrade to my Bugeye. When I got > the car it had a 948 engine, the fuel line was rubber from the tank > (actually the replacement electric pump} to the engine. Since the 1275 > doesn't have a block mounted fuel pump I need to replace the fuel line and > feel it would be best to use something more durable than rubber. Any > suggestions? > > thanks, Hal > > > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Dec 10 16:49:03 2021 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:49:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel lines for Bugeye with a 1275 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <840BA9DF-9F3A-41CF-91C2-540099C5F4F7@chartermi.net> Moss has one available for the later cars with a rear mounted pump, but it's expensive! I would just go to the local auto parts store, buy some steel tube, and bend my own. I don't have a great photo available, but you can see in this shot it runs along the channel on the passenger side and then goes up into the engine compartment and across to the carbs. It's fastened to the channel along the floor with hairpin shaped clips. > On Dec 10, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > > ? > Thanks for the quick reply Rick. Pump is mounted just forward of the rear axle. Any suggestions where to source such a fuel line? > > Hal > >> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 3:32 PM Rick Fisk wrote: >> Where is your pump located? The Bugeye originally had a steel line all the way from the tank to the engine mounted mechanical pump, with no rubber hoses at all. If your electric pump is mounted in front of the rear axle I would install a steel line from there to the engine with a short rubber hose connecting the steel line to the front carb. >> >> Rick >> >> > On Dec 10, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets wrote: >> > >> > ? >> > Listerati, I am getting back on the upgrade to my Bugeye. When I got the car it had a 948 engine, the fuel line was rubber from the tank (actually the replacement electric pump} to the engine. Since the 1275 doesn't have a block mounted fuel pump I need to replace the fuel line and feel it would be best to use something more durable than rubber. Any suggestions? >> > thanks, Hal >> > >> > ------------------------ >> > >> > spridgets at autox.team.net >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68579 bytes Desc: not available URL: From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Dec 11 20:34:50 2021 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 22:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's alive! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Super nice. Linda On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 9:14 PM Michael MacLean via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Finally after numerous attempts the Bugeye is running! The new ECCO > fuel pump delivers more fuel than the Facet pump at the correct pressure. > This time I blew out the steel fuel lines with compressed air. Apparently > that did the trick. Blowing air in the tank to pressurize it was not > successful. This time the pump was self priming. > When I was running the Facet pump, fuel would fill the clear fuel > filter only at the bottom of the clear capsule. I never understood how the > car ran OK like that. Now the fuel filter is full under pump pressure and > no overflow from the carb. With the ECCO pump the car started immediately > cold. With the Facet pump it would take a little longer to fire up. Now > it won't idle, but I attribute that to old gas sitting in the carb for over > eight months. I plan to take it out tomorrow and try to blow it out on the > freeway. If that doesn't do it. The single HIF44 carb comes off for > disassembly and cleaning. Woohoo! Alive! Just in time for the new gas > prices. > Mike MacLean > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > -- "Pay if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Dec 11 20:52:59 2021 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 22:52:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: <1F9672A0-0523-4646-9575-FB1108596472@mac.com> References: <1F9672A0-0523-4646-9575-FB1108596472@mac.com> Message-ID: List, I haven't been on the list for several months now and I apologize but it sure warms my heart to see a post about our dear friend Frank Clarici. Frank revived my confidence when my parents passed and I lost all my sense of self confidence in all the things I loved. Frank reassured my confidence in welding, tools and machines of all sorts. He never doubted that I could complete a repair and enjoy it like I did in the past. I will always be grateful for Frank's encouragement and fortitude to move forward with the love of the LBC. I continue with "Pay it forward" as he is the essence of the term, and as I grow older I continue to do much more of it. Lift your glasses up gentleman and have a toast, to our dear friend Frank Clarici, may we all work toward his kindness toward others and keep our LBC's running. Linda 62 Deep Pink California Sprite Pinky On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:49 AM Larry Macy via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Mark, > > Thanks you for this email. Frank was AWESOME. I could leave this email at > that and everyone who ever met Frank would understand. I met Frrank virtual > in Oct of 1997. I was on the MG Autox list and there was announcement of a > new list for ?SPRIDGETS? I think I was number 4 in subscribing, It was > Franks insistence that made Mark (mjb) create this list. > > A while later I was in need of a pumpkin. Frank said he had one so I drove > from Lansdale PA to Toms River. Frank was gracious and would not take > anything for it. He just handed it to me. Instant respect and friendship. A > few years later, and I am not sure of the date a group of us, Frank, Allen > Hefner, Chuck Crist and Kevin Valentine (I hope I didn't forget anyone) > went to Latrobe, PA (home of Rolling Rock beer) to work on Amy?s Sprite. We > spent the weekend (and boy was her tub a mess after we had all showered) > fixing up her car. I had the honor of first drive. A while later we > repeated the group going to help fix up another car (it might have been > Chris King?s, I don?t recall). Well since we all enjoyed doing this we > figured we might need a name. There were a few bandied about. One I > remember was CRAPOS, I don?t recall what that stood for, but I suggested > Organization of Spridget Hanymen In Transit and OSHIT was born. (I always > wonder how many folks actually realize what OSHIT stands for). After that > we did a lot more transiting as handymen and worked on a lot of cars. We > did a lot at Frank?s and Kevin?s. My Midget was reborn at Kevin?s. > > When my first wife left me for my best friend, it was Frank and Ron that > reached out and took me to see Bruce Springsteen. I drove to Toms River and > Frank and I drove to the Meadowlands, in his Sprite, to see the show. At > that time I only had the Midget, with no top, as my car and I drove home > at 1 AM in a drizzle. > > My Midget 1500 had gotten a few upgrades over the years. I had a Weber, 5 > speed transmission, hi compression pistons and a mild street cam. One day, > in Toms River, Franks asked me to take him for a ride. So we did his > ?loop?. He said he hadn?t realized how fast a 1500 could be. Boy did I > smile. > > Eventually, my Midget had gotten to the point of body rot so bad it was > not worth fixing. So I bought a shell in good shape and had it trailered to > Toms River. The OSHIT crew got together and fixed that shell up like new. > It was in Frank?s garage, in primer when word came that Frank had suddenly > passed. What the shock that was. > > Well, the thing that Frank was inspirational for, the OSHIT idea, has > thankfully remained alive. I no longer have a Midget, I sold in 2019 to a > relative of Kevin?s so I could live, full time, in an RV. > > Frank was my friend, he is missed. > > Larry > > Here are linkks to my tribute to Frank at the Midget 50th in Elkhart Lake. > First kink is a video, second is my powerpoint with pics and Frankisms. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/svm5fepeowwkq3k/Larry%20Macy%20Tribute%20-%20Frank%20Clarici.mpg?dl=0 > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/kanf3n84aa1q0i4/Frank_Memorial.pptx?dl=0 > > > > On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. > I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he > mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to > help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it > was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. > Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative > process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long > distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his > motto "Pay it Forward". > This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my > attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a > long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. > The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he > believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their > time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I > have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have > acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention > the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. > The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work > toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, > not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are > great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so > distant is a gift that I cannot express. > If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've > never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet > like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some > friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to > The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. > As always, PAY IT FORWARD! > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way- Pay It Forward > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at mac.com > > > Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and > the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > -- "Pay if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmari2 at verizon.net Sat Dec 11 21:34:21 2021 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George Marinos) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 23:34:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0C1A8B17-EC41-4242-AFAB-24B9242A8386@verizon.net> Thoughtfully stated. George Sent from my iPad > On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > List, > I haven't been on the list for several months now and I apologize but it sure warms my heart to see a post about our dear friend Frank Clarici. Frank revived my confidence when my parents passed and I lost all my sense of self confidence in all the things I loved. Frank reassured my confidence in welding, tools and machines of all sorts. He never doubted that I could complete a repair and enjoy it like I did in the past. I will always be grateful for Frank's encouragement and fortitude to move forward with the love of the LBC. > I continue with "Pay it forward" as he is the essence of the term, and as I grow older I continue to do much more of it. > > Lift your glasses up gentleman and have a toast, to our dear friend Frank Clarici, may we all work toward his kindness toward others and keep our LBC's running. > Linda > 62 Deep Pink California Sprite Pinky > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:49 AM Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: >> Mark, >> >> Thanks you for this email. Frank was AWESOME. I could leave this email at that and everyone who ever met Frank would understand. I met Frrank virtual in Oct of 1997. I was on the MG Autox list and there was announcement of a new list for ?SPRIDGETS? I think I was number 4 in subscribing, It was Franks insistence that made Mark (mjb) create this list. >> >> A while later I was in need of a pumpkin. Frank said he had one so I drove from Lansdale PA to Toms River. Frank was gracious and would not take anything for it. He just handed it to me. Instant respect and friendship. A few years later, and I am not sure of the date a group of us, Frank, Allen Hefner, Chuck Crist and Kevin Valentine (I hope I didn't forget anyone) went to Latrobe, PA (home of Rolling Rock beer) to work on Amy?s Sprite. We spent the weekend (and boy was her tub a mess after we had all showered) fixing up her car. I had the honor of first drive. A while later we repeated the group going to help fix up another car (it might have been Chris King?s, I don?t recall). Well since we all enjoyed doing this we figured we might need a name. There were a few bandied about. One I remember was CRAPOS, I don?t recall what that stood for, but I suggested Organization of Spridget Hanymen In Transit and OSHIT was born. (I always wonder how many folks actually realize what OSHIT stands for). After that we did a lot more transiting as handymen and worked on a lot of cars. We did a lot at Frank?s and Kevin?s. My Midget was reborn at Kevin?s. >> >> When my first wife left me for my best friend, it was Frank and Ron that reached out and took me to see Bruce Springsteen. I drove to Toms River and Frank and I drove to the Meadowlands, in his Sprite, to see the show. At that time I only had the Midget, with no top, as my car and I drove home at 1 AM in a drizzle. >> >> My Midget 1500 had gotten a few upgrades over the years. I had a Weber, 5 speed transmission, hi compression pistons and a mild street cam. One day, in Toms River, Franks asked me to take him for a ride. So we did his ?loop?. He said he hadn?t realized how fast a 1500 could be. Boy did I smile. >> >> Eventually, my Midget had gotten to the point of body rot so bad it was not worth fixing. So I bought a shell in good shape and had it trailered to Toms River. The OSHIT crew got together and fixed that shell up like new. It was in Frank?s garage, in primer when word came that Frank had suddenly passed. What the shock that was. >> >> Well, the thing that Frank was inspirational for, the OSHIT idea, has thankfully remained alive. I no longer have a Midget, I sold in 2019 to a relative of Kevin?s so I could live, full time, in an RV. >> >> Frank was my friend, he is missed. >> >> Larry >> >> Here are linkks to my tribute to Frank at the Midget 50th in Elkhart Lake. First kink is a video, second is my powerpoint with pics and Frankisms. >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/svm5fepeowwkq3k/Larry%20Macy%20Tribute%20-%20Frank%20Clarici.mpg?dl=0 >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kanf3n84aa1q0i4/Frank_Memorial.pptx?dl=0 >> >> >> >>> On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: >>> >>> This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. >>> I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. >>> Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward". >>> This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. >>> The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. >>> The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express. >>> If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. >>> As always, PAY IT FORWARD! >>> Mark Haynes >>> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> >> -- >> >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> lmacy at mac.com >> >> >> Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money >> >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > > -- > "Pay if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Sun Dec 12 06:40:54 2021 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 08:40:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: <0C1A8B17-EC41-4242-AFAB-24B9242A8386@verizon.net> References: <0C1A8B17-EC41-4242-AFAB-24B9242A8386@verizon.net> Message-ID: In many ways, Frank embodied the spirit of the Sprite ... a simple guy who knew how to have fun. He knew everything about keeping these cars running and wasn't afraid to mod them. He enjoyed sharing all that knowledge but never talked down to folks who asked dumb questions. And his generous nature and respect in which he was held was shown by the long lines of folks waiting outside his wake. When I see the prices that bugeyes are selling for now I often wonder, "What would Frank think?" A great guy sorely missed. Rick Neville Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 11:37 PM George Marinos via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Thoughtfully stated. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > List, > I haven't been on the list for several months now and I apologize but it > sure warms my heart to see a post about our dear friend Frank Clarici. > Frank revived my confidence when my parents passed and I lost all my > sense of self confidence in all the things I loved. Frank reassured my > confidence in welding, tools and machines of all sorts. He never doubted > that I could complete a repair and enjoy it like I did in the past. I will > always be grateful for Frank's encouragement and fortitude to move forward > with the love of the LBC. > I continue with "Pay it forward" as he is the essence of the term, and as > I grow older I continue to do much more of it. > > Lift your glasses up gentleman and have a toast, to our dear friend Frank > Clarici, may we all work toward his kindness toward others and keep our > LBC's running. > Linda > 62 Deep Pink California Sprite Pinky > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:49 AM Larry Macy via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> Thanks you for this email. Frank was AWESOME. I could leave this email at >> that and everyone who ever met Frank would understand. I met Frrank virtual >> in Oct of 1997. I was on the MG Autox list and there was announcement of a >> new list for ?SPRIDGETS? I think I was number 4 in subscribing, It was >> Franks insistence that made Mark (mjb) create this list. >> >> A while later I was in need of a pumpkin. Frank said he had one so I >> drove from Lansdale PA to Toms River. Frank was gracious and would not take >> anything for it. He just handed it to me. Instant respect and friendship. A >> few years later, and I am not sure of the date a group of us, Frank, Allen >> Hefner, Chuck Crist and Kevin Valentine (I hope I didn't forget anyone) >> went to Latrobe, PA (home of Rolling Rock beer) to work on Amy?s Sprite. We >> spent the weekend (and boy was her tub a mess after we had all showered) >> fixing up her car. I had the honor of first drive. A while later we >> repeated the group going to help fix up another car (it might have been >> Chris King?s, I don?t recall). Well since we all enjoyed doing this we >> figured we might need a name. There were a few bandied about. One I >> remember was CRAPOS, I don?t recall what that stood for, but I suggested >> Organization of Spridget Hanymen In Transit and OSHIT was born. (I always >> wonder how many folks actually realize what OSHIT stands for). After that >> we did a lot more transiting as handymen and worked on a lot of cars. We >> did a lot at Frank?s and Kevin?s. My Midget was reborn at Kevin?s. >> >> When my first wife left me for my best friend, it was Frank and Ron that >> reached out and took me to see Bruce Springsteen. I drove to Toms River and >> Frank and I drove to the Meadowlands, in his Sprite, to see the show. At >> that time I only had the Midget, with no top, as my car and I drove home >> at 1 AM in a drizzle. >> >> My Midget 1500 had gotten a few upgrades over the years. I had a Weber, >> 5 speed transmission, hi compression pistons and a mild street cam. One >> day, in Toms River, Franks asked me to take him for a ride. So we did his >> ?loop?. He said he hadn?t realized how fast a 1500 could be. Boy did I >> smile. >> >> Eventually, my Midget had gotten to the point of body rot so bad it was >> not worth fixing. So I bought a shell in good shape and had it trailered to >> Toms River. The OSHIT crew got together and fixed that shell up like new. >> It was in Frank?s garage, in primer when word came that Frank had suddenly >> passed. What the shock that was. >> >> Well, the thing that Frank was inspirational for, the OSHIT idea, has >> thankfully remained alive. I no longer have a Midget, I sold in 2019 to a >> relative of Kevin?s so I could live, full time, in an RV. >> >> Frank was my friend, he is missed. >> >> Larry >> >> Here are linkks to my tribute to Frank at the Midget 50th in Elkhart >> Lake. First kink is a video, second is my powerpoint with pics and >> Frankisms. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/svm5fepeowwkq3k/Larry%20Macy%20Tribute%20-%20Frank%20Clarici.mpg?dl=0 >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kanf3n84aa1q0i4/Frank_Memorial.pptx?dl=0 >> >> >> >> On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets < >> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit. >> I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he >> mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to >> help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it >> was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'. >> Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative >> process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long >> distances to help people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his >> motto "Pay it Forward". >> This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my >> attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a >> long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. >> The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he >> believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their >> time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I >> have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have >> acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention >> the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?. >> The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work >> toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, >> not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are >> great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so >> distant is a gift that I cannot express. >> If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If >> you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll >> meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some >> friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to >> The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici. >> As always, PAY IT FORWARD! >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> >> >> -- >> >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> lmacy at mac.com >> >> >> Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and >> the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money >> >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com >> > > > -- > "Pay if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrik at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Sun Dec 12 11:36:12 2021 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 18:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Ruminations on OSHITs and Frank In-Reply-To: References: <0C1A8B17-EC41-4242-AFAB-24B9242A8386@verizon.net> Message-ID: <673531360.2037139.1639334172702@mail.yahoo.com> Ok,After a few early OSHIT gatherings I can say I saw a lot of how this all got here from there.I have the complete 1/4 that Amy was told she needed for her museum find Spridget where I repaired the rear of her car ( without the 1/4) and I have the tattoo ( Amy did it there!)? on my back to prove I was there and contributed to soiling her bathtub.??Larry's midget rust , 5 speed and of course paint .? Allen's front suspension and brakes.? Larry's lower control arm at spridgetfest (1 of 2!).? Kevin's (& family!) LBC rallys and my navigator who got every F-word under the sun who unknown to me was the Pastor for the church a few doors away from Kevin's home....thanks for not telling me until AFTER the rally. ( very embarrassing!? ?We drove across a lawn , did a doughnut next to a porta-potty and tore up grass and passed a pretty peppy MGB that could not keep up with my Bugeye....in a no passing zone!)The time Frank & I went to the Healey Conclave with our Bugeyes roaring into the lot of restored well muffled show cars...In one way it seems like it was yesterday yet in another way a lifetime ago.And now 10 years after Frank's passing having his now completed race car here in our carport.? In spite of his really not liking this specific car , I think he would approve of how it turned out.? The New Jersey plate I found in the dirt in the car is on the car and a Speedwell emblem is on the dash.*sigh*ChuckFormerly "The Worlds Largest Sprite Driver" On Sunday, December 12, 2021, 08:41:26 AM EST, HealeyRick via Spridgets wrote: In many ways, Frank embodied the spirit of the Sprite ... a simple guy who knew how to have fun.? He knew everything about keeping these cars running and wasn't afraid to mod them.? He enjoyed sharing all that knowledge but never talked down to folks who asked dumb questions.? And his generous nature and respect in which he was held was shown by the long lines of folks waiting outside his wake.? When I see the prices that bugeyes are selling for now I often wonder, "What would Frank think?"? A great guy sorely missed. Rick Neville | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 11:37 PM George Marinos via Spridgets wrote: Thoughtfully stated. ?George Sent from my iPad On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets wrote: ?List,I haven't been on the list for several months now and I apologize?but it sure?warms?my heart to see a post about our dear friend Frank Clarici. Frank revived my confidence when my parents passed and I lost all my sense?of self confidence in all the things I loved. Frank reassured?my confidence?in ?welding, tools and machines of all sorts. He never doubted that I could complete a repair and enjoy it like I did in the past. I will always be grateful?for Frank's encouragement and fortitude?to move forward with the love of the LBC.?I continue with "Pay it forward" as he is the essence?of the term, and as I grow older I continue to do much more of it. Lift your glasses up gentleman?and have a toast, to our dear friend Frank Clarici, may we all work toward his kindness toward others and keep our LBC's running.?Linda62 Deep Pink California Sprite Pinky On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:49 AM Larry Macy via Spridgets wrote: Mark, Thanks you for this email. Frank was AWESOME. I could leave this email at that and everyone who ever met Frank would understand. I met Frrank virtual in Oct of 1997. I was on the MG Autox list and there was announcement of a new list for ?SPRIDGETS? I think I was number 4 in subscribing, It was Franks insistence that made Mark (mjb) create this list.? A while later I was in need of a pumpkin. Frank said he had one so I drove from Lansdale PA to Toms River. Frank was gracious and would not take anything for it. He just handed it to me. Instant respect and friendship. A few years ?later, and I am not sure of the date a group of us, Frank, Allen Hefner, Chuck Crist and Kevin Valentine (I hope I didn't forget anyone) went to Latrobe, PA (home of Rolling Rock beer) to work on Amy?s Sprite. We spent the weekend (and boy ?was her tub a mess after we had all showered) fixing up her car. I ?had the honor of first drive. A while later we repeated the group going to help fix up another car (it might have been Chris King?s, I ?don?t recall). Well since we all enjoyed doing this we figured we might need a name. There were a few bandied about. One I remember was CRAPOS, I don?t recall what that stood for, but I suggested Organization of Spridget Hanymen In Transit and OSHIT was born. (I always wonder how many folks actually realize what OSHIT stands for). After that we did a lot more transiting as handymen and worked on a lot of cars. We did a lot at Frank?s and Kevin?s. My Midget was reborn at Kevin?s.? When my first wife left me for my best friend, it was Frank and Ron that reached out and took me to see Bruce Springsteen. I drove to Toms River and Frank and I drove to the Meadowlands, in his Sprite, to see the show. At that time I only had the Midget, with no top, ?as my car and I drove home at 1 AM in a drizzle.? My Midget 1500 had gotten a few upgrades over the years. I had a Weber, ?5 speed transmission, hi compression pistons and a mild street cam. One day, in Toms River, Franks asked me to take him for a ride. So we did his ?loop?. He said he hadn?t realized how fast a 1500 could be. Boy did I smile.? Eventually, my Midget had gotten to the point of body rot so bad it was not worth fixing. So I bought a shell in good shape and had it trailered to Toms River. The OSHIT crew got together and fixed that shell up like new. It was in Frank?s garage, in primer when word came that Frank had suddenly passed. What the shock that was.? Well, the ?thing that Frank was inspirational for, the OSHIT idea, has thankfully remained alive. I no longer have a Midget, I sold in 2019 to a relative of Kevin?s so ?I could live, full time, in an RV.? Frank ?was my ?friend, he is missed. Larry Here are linkks to my tribute to Frank at the Midget 50th in Elkhart Lake. First kink is a video, second is my powerpoint with pics and Frankisms.https://www.dropbox.com/s/svm5fepeowwkq3k/Larry%20Macy%20Tribute%20-%20Frank%20Clarici.mpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kanf3n84aa1q0i4/Frank_Memorial.pptx?dl=0 On Oct 22, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: This'll be a little long, so bear with me or just delete as you see fit.I was having a beer with a friend who got me into AutoX last night and he mentioned that he'd told his wife about how I travelled to Dodge City to help out Jim Johnson with his Sprite. he inferred that I did it because it was pay back, and I told him no, that I did it 'um, I'm not sure why'.Today I was stacking wood for the winter, which is a kind of meditative process, and realized that the reason why I am willing to travel long distances to help? people that I've never met is Frank Clarici, and his motto "Pay it Forward".This realization that Frank is still affecting my life and correcting my attitude was very powerful. That a man who I never met could have such a long lasting affect on me and my approach to others simply astonishes me. The fact that OSHITs are still occurring is a testament to what he believed, that there is always someone out there willing to devote their time and skills to help others who are unable to finish a labor of love. I have found that I enjoy the sharing of the knowledge and skills we all have acquired, both ways, is one of the best parts of an OSHIT, not to mention the prodding and poking and general lack of any respect for one's person ?.The ability of everyone to come together from great distances and work toward a common goal for another is such a gift to all who are involved, not the least of whom is the car owner. My local British car buddies are great, but having the opportunity to come together with folks from so distant is a gift that I cannot express.If you're still reading this, I'm sure that you too, knew Frank. If you've never taken part in an OSHIT, I would encourage you to do so, you'll meet like-minded folks, enjoy some laughs, make some memories, make some friends, drink some beers and most of all, create an enduring memorial to The Dean of Spridgets, Frank Clarici.As always, PAY IT FORWARD! Mark Haynes It only goes one way- Pay It Forward ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets ?http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com --? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at mac.com Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets? http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com -- "Pay if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets ?http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets? http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrik at gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck55 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've owned one of my Bugeyes since 1968 and that clip is missing. The rod was also missing when I bought the car. :-( Rick > On Dec 13, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > What's it? Owning Bugeyes since 1971 and I never noticed this before. Look at the picture below and tell me what this clip just behind the grill is for. > Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20211130_153915.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 52265 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Mon Dec 13 17:53:14 2021 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 00:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Whatsit? In-Reply-To: <17FB8104-5176-4B84-A2A3-751E8D43DFF5@chartermi.net> References: <17FB8104-5176-4B84-A2A3-751E8D43DFF5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1099261532.1129211.1639443194084@mail.yahoo.com> THAT'S IT!One of the "throw it away" pieces of a race car....excess stuff.Chuck.I've had my Bugeye since '74....Longer than 2 wives and a son!? ? On Monday, December 13, 2021, 07:09:58 PM EST, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: Hi Mike, I believe that clip retains the end of the bonnet prop rod (which is inserted from the other side).? I've owned one of my Bugeyes since 1968 and that clip is missing.? The rod was also missing when I bought the car.? :-( Rick > On Dec 13, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > > ? > What's it?? Owning Bugeyes since 1971 and I never noticed this before.? Look at the picture below and tell me what this clip just behind the grill is for. > Mike MacLean > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck55 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Mon Dec 13 18:02:08 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:02:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Whatsit? In-Reply-To: <1099261532.1129211.1639443194084@mail.yahoo.com> References: <17FB8104-5176-4B84-A2A3-751E8D43DFF5@chartermi.net> <1099261532.1129211.1639443194084@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Duh. I should have looked on the other side to see the hole the prop rod goes into. I just thought it was a hole, never guessed there was a retaining clip on the other side. OK, nevermind. Mike M On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:53 PM crusaderchuck55 at aol.com < crusaderchuck55 at aol.com> wrote: > THAT'S IT! > One of the "throw it away" pieces of a race car....excess stuff. > Chuck. > I've had my Bugeye since '74.... > Longer than 2 wives and a son! > > On Monday, December 13, 2021, 07:09:58 PM EST, Rick Fisk via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > I believe that clip retains the end of the bonnet prop rod (which is > inserted from the other side). I've owned one of my Bugeyes since 1968 and > that clip is missing. The rod was also missing when I bought the car. :-( > > Rick > > > On Dec 13, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ? > > What's it? Owning Bugeyes since 1971 and I never noticed this before. > Look at the picture below and tell me what this clip just behind the grill > is for. > > Mike MacLean > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck55 at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Mon Dec 13 18:14:14 2021 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (Dave and Terri Woerpel) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:14:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Whatsit? In-Reply-To: <17FB8104-5176-4B84-A2A3-751E8D43DFF5@chartermi.net> References: <17FB8104-5176-4B84-A2A3-751E8D43DFF5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Ditto what Rick said. There should be a hole for the prop rod to fit into. A similar clip on the driver's side (LHD) radiator to inner fender bracket for storing the rod. Dave W '59 :() '59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI "Pay It Forward" On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 6:09 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I believe that clip retains the end of the bonnet prop rod (which is > inserted from the other side). I've owned one of my Bugeyes since 1968 and > that clip is missing. The rod was also missing when I bought the car. :-( > > Rick > > > On Dec 13, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets < > spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ? > > What's it? Owning Bugeyes since 1971 and I never noticed this before. > Look at the picture below and tell me what this clip just behind the grill > is for. > > Mike MacLean > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dtwoerpel at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From weslake1330 at gmail.com Thu Dec 16 13:14:10 2021 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 20:14:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning out a gas tank Message-ID: How aircraft restorers clean out an old gas tank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RWMMJZNsdE Seems like a posher version of Frank's barbeque and stones method. Regards Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Thu Dec 16 14:45:17 2021 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 15:45:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning out a gas tank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good one Daniel!? Just get a good cement mixer setup that wasn't made in? C****.? Oops, Frank's influence is everywhere! Don't know how it would work with the baffles in our tanks.? Barbie worked well for me but I was just boiling out gunk in there...careful of the nylon pick-up strainer. "Tanks" for the video!? sorry couldn't help myself. Dave W '59 :{) '59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI "Pay It Forward" On 12/16/2021 2:14 PM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets wrote: > How aircraft restorers clean out an old gas tank. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RWMMJZNsdE > > Seems like a posher version of Frank's barbeque and stones method. > > Regards > > > Daniel > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dtwoerpel at gmail.com From mdmyersct at gmail.com Fri Dec 17 08:34:40 2021 From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Mike Myers) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 10:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning out a gas tank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Daniel, This was a common finishing process for needle bearing rollers and races when I worked a Torrington bearings - barrels were open and loaded with metal parts and various tumble media and water to take the parts from finish ground to the final mirror polish. The media and barrel angle were changed to get different action on the metal parts. Mike Myers in Connecticut > On Dec 16, 2021, at 4:45 PM, David Woerpel via Spridgets wrote: > > ?Good one Daniel! Just get a good cement mixer setup that wasn't made in C****. Oops, Frank's influence is everywhere! > Don't know how it would work with the baffles in our tanks. Barbie worked well for me but I was just boiling out gunk in there...careful of the nylon pick-up strainer. > > "Tanks" for the video! sorry couldn't help myself. > > Dave W > '59 :{) > '59 MGA 1500 > > Burlington WI > > "Pay It Forward" > > > >> On 12/16/2021 2:14 PM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets wrote: >> How aircraft restorers clean out an old gas tank. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RWMMJZNsdE >> >> Seems like a posher version of Frank's barbeque and stones method. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Daniel >> >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dtwoerpel at gmail.com > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdmyersct at gmail.com From weslake1330 at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 10:57:01 2021 From: weslake1330 at gmail.com (Weslake1330) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 17:57:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Merry Christmas Message-ID: Hi list, Merry Christmas (in about 4 hours time here) and one of my favourite cheery clips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTpVI93hddY I'm fairly sure my daughters were never this well behaved at that age but now they are 25 and 19 it's been a couple (yes, only a couple) of years since they were up at about 4AM (they would have done Christmas Stockings about 1.30 AM) and we might make 6AM tomorrow. 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On 12/24/2021 9:57 AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets wrote: > Hi list, > > Merry Christmas (in about 4 hours time here) and one of my favourite > cheery clips. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTpVI93hddY > > I'm fairly sure my daughters were never this well behaved at that age > but now they are 25 and 19 it's been a couple (yes, only a couple) of > years since they were up at about 4AM (they would have done Christmas > Stockings about 1.30 AM) and we might make 6AM tomorrow. > > Regards > > > Daniel > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 12:42:51 2021 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 13:42:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9280a3ff-9bed-b99b-87a2-17c10553be2a@gmail.com> Daniel, that was priceless!!? Thanks for sending and a Merry Christmas to all on the LIST? and may with the Hope this season represents may 2022 be a better year(it wouldn't be difficult) for all. Warmest Regards, Dave W. '59 :{) '59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI "Pay It Forward" On 12/24/2021 11:57 AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets wrote: > Hi list, > > Merry Christmas (in about 4 hours time here) and one of my favourite > cheery clips. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTpVI93hddY > > I'm fairly sure my daughters were never this well behaved at that age > but now they are 25 and 19 it's been a couple (yes, only a couple) of > years since they were up at about 4AM (they would have done Christmas > Stockings about 1.30 AM) and we might make 6AM tomorrow. > > Regards > > > Daniel > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dtwoerpel at gmail.com From crusaderchuck55 at aol.com Fri Dec 24 13:20:50 2021 From: crusaderchuck55 at aol.com (crusaderchuck55 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 20:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] HO-HO-HO! References: <595653192.1955294.1640377250697.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <595653192.1955294.1640377250697@mail.yahoo.com> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE!Chuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miniac7 at aol.com Fri Dec 31 09:14:59 2021 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Mountain Driving Event : Spring '22 References: <1663347338.372419.1640967299954.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1663347338.372419.1640967299954@mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Happy New Spridgeteers !?I would like to poll my fellow Sprite/Midget owners as to who might be interested in embarking on a multi-day scenic drive in the Shenandoah and Blue Ridge Mountain regions of western Virginia sometime in the late Spring of 2022.?My thoughts are to meet up in Charlottesville, VA. and head north on scenic secondary roads to Front Royal. From there we would pick up the start of the Skyline Drive and continue south and onto the Blue Ridge Parkway. This would most likely be a three day event all-in, with the option of dropping out after the second day for those who prefer that. If I receive enough interest, I will continue the planning and would make the arrangements for the meeting place as well as the lodging accommodations along the Parkways each night.?We could either arrange this as a mid-week run to avoid potential congestion on the Parkways, or we could straddle a weekend for those who have day jobs or other weekday commitments. If and when I receive any initial interest, I will start to get a bit more serious and will fill in those interested parties with additional details as they develop.?We have done this same thing with a small group classic Mini's three times in the past four years, and each time we all had an absolute ball.?Please either respond here so all can see or contact me privately.?Thank you,Howard Collins?PS: I plan to post this information on the Sprite Forum of the Healey Experience, The Midget Forum of the MG Experience and the Spridget Forum of the British Car Forum?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: