[Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 58, Issue 6

Wed Jan 20 19:51:15 MST 2016

Listen, kids - understanding "why" is very much the point of the article. Things are better when there is a purpose, a vision. When we did the Bustercluster, the "why" was never "To restore this Sprite."  It was "Pam and Buster will recreate their first date on Sunday in this car." Microsoft brought its Zune MP3 player to market before the iPod and spouted specs, memory, size and sound quality in all its advertising. No one really paid attention because they did not explain "why."  Apple came out with the iPad and simply stated "4,000 songs on your pocket." Everyone got it. 

China? Not under my watch. www.kaneyaerospace.com.Made in the USA by people on this list. 

Ron Soave

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Point well taken- Especially the IP factor. Mea Culpa
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> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward
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>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That is all true, BUT, there is another layer to this.  My company has also done business with sub-contractors in China, and I spent some time there getting the subs up to speed on the work they were doing for us.  They work we got form them was of acceptable quality, but definitely the minimum possible quality that we could accept.  The subs that we worked with did not care if we rejected some product, it was cheaper for them to have rework than to do the work to a higher standard.  So we basically had to inspect everything we got from them.  The reject rate was definitely much higher than any of the other subcontractors we worked with.  
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>> Then there is the IP issue.  Just about every design that the China-based sub worked on for us ended up getting ripped off and marketed by a different Chinese company shortly after out contract ended.  Both companies were owned by the government of China, so it seems likely they deliberately transferred our technology to one of our competitors.  Fortunately they did NOT try to sell our design in the US.  I am pretty sure we could have stopped them, but it would have been expensive.  
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>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> This article is right on point, My brother in-law has traveled to China for business (very astute Engineer BTW) and stated that the Chinese will make anything that you want to whatever price/quality point YOU define. They CAN make very good tools, but its up to the outsourcing company to tell them what level of quality they want.
>>> Unfortunately most of the US firms are more concerned with cost to produce rather than longevity and quality (Are you listening HF?).
>>> JMHO,
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>>> Mark Haynes
>>> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward
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