[Spridgets] Racer guys Engine help

bmwwxman . bmwwxman at gmail.com
Tue Jul 15 16:08:40 MDT 2014


It's definitely a spark timing problem if it is backfiring through the
carb(s).

Cheers!!
Jim


On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM, bmwwxman . <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> What Mike said.....    I've seen this happen before too.  On my MKIII
> Midget I have to rotate the dizzy 180 degrees from where it *should* be.
> You could try that too.  I've known a number of different 4 bangers where
> the dizzy was 180 degrees out.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  40 years ago when I was a stupid teenager who knew it all, I spent 2
>> days trying to get a engine to fire, it kept spitting back through the
>> carbs and not running.  On the second day I was going through everything
>> and checking valve clearances...Following the firing order 1,3,4,2   then
>> my girlfriend said "if 3 comes after 1, why did 4 intake valve open ?" or
>> something like that.   40 years and I still hear about it from her (married
>> 36 years now).
>>
>>  Some idiot has put in a new cam that had a different firing order,
>>  1,2,4,3 is what the cam was, I have no idea where that cam came from it
>> was in the boxes with the block and other motor parts when I bought the
>> basket case and I never checked it just assumed it was right.   So check
>> your firing order !   take off the valve cover, set motor at TDC and double
>> check valve timing, then rotate motor watching both valves and rotor on
>> distributor (I think you said it was electronic so oops if it is).   This
>> will take 5 minutes to do and eliminate a 1,000 possible things wrong and
>> you will now be able to diagnose from a known starting point.  And keep
>> your gf away or she might fix it and remind you for decades.
>>
>>  I personally can't imagine how a carb could cause backfiring through the
>> carbs unless you forgot to put parts in or like that. So for fire to get to
>> the carb it has to be valve timing is way off or ignition timing is way
>> off.  Yeah, I suppose really really bad valve clearances could cause the
>> symptoms you are seeing but that would be the last thing I would check.
>>
>>   Mike
>>
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