From bkitterer at me.com Fri Mar 1 10:36:04 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:36:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum Message-ID: <70F16BA3-68EF-4385-9EDB-AA1ED939E794@me.com> Photos from the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum have been added to my web site. Photos from four other museums will be add in the near future. http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/acd-museum-photos/ Enjoy Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Mar 1 11:31:01 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:31:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum In-Reply-To: <70F16BA3-68EF-4385-9EDB-AA1ED939E794@me.com> References: <70F16BA3-68EF-4385-9EDB-AA1ED939E794@me.com> Message-ID: <1362162661.61213.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> HealeyRick and I visited the ACD Museum a few years ago and it is quite the museum. One of those places where it is hard to fathom the depth of the cars on display. I recommend a visit to anyone. jay ________________________________ From: Bob Kitterer To: Spridgets Sent: Fri, March 1, 2013 1:07:54 PM Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum Photos from the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum have been added to my web site. Photos from four other museums will be add in the near future. http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/acd-museum-photos/ Enjoy From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 1 13:06:12 2013 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:06:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden Loss of Clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When the Moss part showed up . . the new clutch line. . a big difference in wall thickness to say the least (even from a Moss part). I replaced it as soon as the new line came in. Eventually the thin walled material I used as a bypass measure replacing the area that had the whole burned into it . . . . the thin wall hardware store material could have swelled open and burst apart. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, derf wrote: > Sounds unsafe. Epoxy and hydraulic pressure lines should not interact in > such ways. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 1 14:04:32 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:04:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum - Auburn IN Message-ID: <1362171872.712.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ACD Museum - Been there 3 times in the last 10 years. Never fails to amaze me when this country managed to produce way, way, back when. Beautiful Auburns, Cords, and the Duesenbergs plus a whole lot other very interesting period cards plus things like a nice original 427 Cobra, oddities, brands produces in Indiana. Lots of stuff that makes a visit worthwhile. An the Auburn Inn, nice place to stay with lots of period pictures adorning the hallyways. If you are in the mid west definitely worth the trip. PS around Labor Day they have an ACD Museum Festival, parades where these cars get driven, and even stage a Duesenberg Drag Race out at the airport. That I'd like to see. From lmacy at mac.com Fri Mar 1 15:35:59 2013 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:35:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum In-Reply-To: <1362162661.61213.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <70F16BA3-68EF-4385-9EDB-AA1ED939E794@me.com> <1362162661.61213.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39DF7A68-A942-41B9-A253-ED23B16F622E@mac.com> I am pretty sure that is where we stopped on the way to the Midget 50th. Me the Clarici clan and Phil Nase and Jane. Was a veddy cool place. I could stayed for another day, but we were on our way to a PARTY!! Larry On Mar 1, 2013, at 13:31 PM, Jay wrote: > HealeyRick and I visited the ACD Museum a few years ago and it is quite the > museum. One of those places where it is hard to fathom the depth of the cars on > display. > > I recommend a visit to anyone. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bob Kitterer > To: Spridgets > Sent: Fri, March 1, 2013 1:07:54 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum > > Photos from the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum have been added to my web site. > Photos from four other museums will be add in the near future. > > http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/acd-museum-photos/ > > Enjoy > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com From lists at dinospider.com Fri Mar 1 16:22:46 2013 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:22:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] ACD Museum In-Reply-To: <70F16BA3-68EF-4385-9EDB-AA1ED939E794@me.com> References: <70F16BA3-68EF-4385-9EDB-AA1ED939E794@me.com> Message-ID: <51313846.40906@dinospider.com> I went there about 18-20 years ago, I was sent to South Bend for 2 weeks and on the weekend I was bored and drove up to the ACD, I really loved it but I had not planned on going there so I got there near closing time, luckily they let me be the last out of the building so I got about an hour to look around. I was really impressed, especially with the full size (or was it 3/4 size?) clay model and all the offices showing how they worked, etc. I hope that is still there and did not get removed to add more cars. Then by pure luck a month later I was sent back to South Bend, this time I planned on being at the ACD at opening time on Saturday AND I was still there at closing time! One of the curators came by mid-afternoon and asked me how I was doing because he had noticed I had been there all day, I ended up with a tour of non-public areas and saw some of their stuff that they don't exhibit, I really loved it. GREAT auto museum and one that should be on everyones bucket list. mike On 03/01/2013 09:36 AM, Bob Kitterer wrote: > Photos from the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum have been added to my web site. > Photos from four other museums will be add in the near future. > > http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/acd-museum-photos/ > > Enjoy > > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ From bkitterer at me.com Sat Mar 2 00:50:09 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:50:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Auto Museums Message-ID: <5067C7A9-9219-4E49-9077-C17DC70CB476@me.com> The Lane, Shelby and Tallahassee Auto Museums have been added to the web site. http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/ Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Mar 2 07:09:42 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 09:09:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget and Arden 8 port head Message-ID: It must have been 20 years since a saw a Midget with an Arden 8 port head will today I saw the same car and go to hear it as well. Very different exhaust not compared to a 5 port head. Weslake-Monza 1330 From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 03:48:01 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:48:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Web Site - some LBC In-Reply-To: <74613D65-C781-4D1F-9C6A-24DCB246BC2A@me.com> References: <4087FBA26B9E4496A4CD0A6C8A578E5D@HomeComputer> <74613D65-C781-4D1F-9C6A-24DCB246BC2A@me.com> Message-ID: I love this photo Bob, but where did you put the 2 blue luggage cases in your Bugeye? Lin http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/1960-austin-healey-sprite/photos-1960-sprite/1960-austin-healey-sprite08.html#previous-photo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bob Kitterer wrote: > Hello Folks, > > The preliminary version of our new web site is up. The site is about our > hobbies which of course includes the Sprite, other cars that I have owned > and > soon some of our other activities in addition to our travels. This site > also > contains the log pages from our 2009 to 2011 travels along with a little > additional information. This is just the early version of the site but we > would appreciate any comments - how does the site look, how easy is it to > navigate, does it sound interesting or any other comments, positive or > negative. Also let me know if you would like to be notified when new > information has been added. Like the old sites I will have a notify list. > > The site is at: > > http://www.gpsztwo.net > > pronounced gypsy two > > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Mon Mar 4 08:00:13 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 07:00:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Web Site - some LBC In-Reply-To: References: <4087FBA26B9E4496A4CD0A6C8A578E5D@HomeComputer> <74613D65-C781-4D1F-9C6A-24DCB246BC2A@me.com> Message-ID: They went in the center on top of the spare. Some of the smaller bags/boxes went in the very rear and around the sides. This left room for the garment bag to go cross wise on top of the two small suitcases filling that area. Things were packed in the revers order that they would be needed. For instance there is a small tool box, it went at the very back since I hoped it would not be needed, as was the case. By using lots of small containers we were able to take advantage of the areas around the spare as well as the corners at the very rear. I seriously doubt that I am still agile enough to do that type of packing now! Bob and Dolores On Mar 4, 2013, at 2:48 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I love this photo Bob, but where did you put the 2 blue luggage cases in your Bugeye? > Lin > http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/1960-austin-healey-sprite/photos-1960-sprit e/1960-austin-healey-sprite08.html#previous-photo > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bob Kitterer wrote: >> Hello Folks, >> >> The preliminary version of our new web site is up. The site is about our >> hobbies which of course includes the Sprite, other cars that I have owned and >> soon some of our other activities in addition to our travels. This site also >> contains the log pages from our 2009 to 2011 travels along with a little >> additional information. This is just the early version of the site but we >> would appreciate any comments - how does the site look, how easy is it to >> navigate, does it sound interesting or any other comments, positive or >> negative. Also let me know if you would like to be notified when new >> information has been added. Like the old sites I will have a notify list. >> >> The site is at: >> >> http://www.gpsztwo.net >> >> pronounced gypsy two >> >> >> Bob and Dolores >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Tue Mar 5 13:05:13 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:05:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question Message-ID: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but the picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to find any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a car? TIA Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Tue Mar 5 13:56:07 2013 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question In-Reply-To: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> References: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> Message-ID: <51365BE7.7030309@bellsouth.net> Sounds like an uninformed statement. Minis came in Morris and Austin flavors. Perhaps the friend just saw "Austin" or some joker added a "Healey" label? Bob 3/5/2013 3:05 PM, Bob Kitterer wrote: > A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but the > picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to find > any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a > car? > > TIA > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mgmaven at bellsouth.net From grday at btinternet.com Tue Mar 5 15:09:10 2013 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 22:09:10 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question References: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> Message-ID: <4838040B94624E1DBAF788F43C578B3E@user8634b3d69b> As a quick question - which way does the engine face - north-south or east-west? All Minis had transverse (east-west) engines. It could be an Austin Mini. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kitterer" < To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question >A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but >the > picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to > find > any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a > car? > > TIA > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13 From swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 6 10:27:20 2013 From: swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk (G & J Swann-Price) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:27:20 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question In-Reply-To: <4838040B94624E1DBAF788F43C578B3E@user8634b3d69b> References: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> <4838040B94624E1DBAF788F43C578B3E@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <0FE9B79DD3DD4C02BFF84C81A896FF99@TINY2> There was a limited edition mini called the 'Sprite'. But nothing to do with Healey Geri. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of GUY DAY Sent: 05 March 2013 22:09 To: Bob Kitterer; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mini question As a quick question - which way does the engine face - north-south or east-west? All Minis had transverse (east-west) engines. It could be an Austin Mini. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kitterer" < To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question >A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but >the > picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to > find > any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a > car? > > TIA > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Mar 5 17:17:21 2013 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 19:17:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question Message-ID: <0AB985848348438C9AAC51A279670B1F@HomeComputer> There was a Sprite model of Mini. http://www.cars-data.com/en/rover-mini-sprite-specs/41395#sthash.5reWQzCf.dp bs -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but the picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to find any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a car? TIA Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes ------------------------ From mark at bradakis.com Wed Mar 6 13:10:38 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:10:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Network outage Message-ID: <5137A2BE.8030100@bradakis.com> Had a network outage last night. I took advantage of the downtime to do a bit of work on the server, got the forums [ link below ] working once again. mjb. From miniac7 at aol.com Wed Mar 6 13:58:30 2013 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:58:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question In-Reply-To: <0AB985848348438C9AAC51A279670B1F@HomeComputer> References: <0AB985848348438C9AAC51A279670B1F@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <8CFE8C47CEACC84-940-8491@webmail-m209.sysops.aol.com> No Mini was ever labeled or branded as an Austin Healey. If it's a late model classic Mini as you surmised, there's a chance that it might have been re-vin'd using an AH vin and title to get it in into the country. Howard Collins '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: Dean Swanson To: spridgets Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2013 2:59 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mini question There was a Sprite model of Mini. http://www.cars-data.com/en/rover-mini-sprite-specs/41395#sthash.5reWQzCf.dp s -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but he icture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to find ny information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a ar? TIA Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes ----------------------- ----------------------- spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From bkitterer at me.com Tue Mar 5 22:03:56 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:03:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Museums Message-ID: Photos from the National Automobile Museum in Reno, NV and the Blackhawk Museum in Danville, CA are now on my site. The Blackhawk is a very special museum and the National has the remains of the Harrah collection. Both have 150 to 200 cars. Also if you have been wondering what we are doing now that we are "off" the road there are photos of Dolores Garden. The museum index and write ups are at: http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/ The National Museum photos are at: http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/photos-nam/ The Blackhawk photos are at: http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/auto-museums/photos-blackhawk/ and Dolores garden can be found at: http://www.gpsztwo.net/hobbies/dolores-garden/ Enjoy Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From bkitterer at me.com Wed Mar 6 17:40:07 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:40:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question In-Reply-To: <8CFE8C47CEACC84-940-8491@webmail-m209.sysops.aol.com> References: <0AB985848348438C9AAC51A279670B1F@HomeComputer> <8CFE8C47CEACC84-940-8491@webmail-m209.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for the answers. It is certain that it is an Austin Mini. Some where there is a photo of the car that is labeled "Nice Austin Healy" but I am not sure where. It may be a photo from my non-car friend who fixit up a bit. Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > No Mini was ever labeled or branded as an Austin Healey. If it's a late model > classic Mini as you surmised, there's a chance that it might have been > re-vin'd using an AH vin and title to get it in into the country. > > Howard Collins > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > '68 Austin Mini > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Swanson > To: spridgets > Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2013 2:59 pm > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mini question > > > There was a Sprite model of Mini. > http://www.cars-data.com/en/rover-mini-sprite-specs/41395#sthash.5reWQzCf.dp > s > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question > A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but > he > icture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to find > ny information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a > ar? > TIA > Bob and Dolores > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ----------------------- > ----------------------- > spridgets at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > uggested annual donation: $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > nsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com From bkitterer at me.com Tue Mar 5 16:59:42 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:59:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question In-Reply-To: <4838040B94624E1DBAF788F43C578B3E@user8634b3d69b> References: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> <4838040B94624E1DBAF788F43C578B3E@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <8A081F6F-4E5C-4C84-8C3D-3732F76EF495@me.com> All I've seen is a photo from the front. I'm fairly certain that it is a Mini rather than a Austin Amercia, or was that MG? Bob and Dolores On Mar 5, 2013, at 2:09 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > As a quick question - which way does the engine face - north-south or east-west? > All Minis had transverse (east-west) engines. > It could be an Austin Mini. > > Guy R Day > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kitterer" < > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:05 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question > > >> A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but the >> picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to find >> any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a >> car? >> >> TIA >> >> Bob and Dolores >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13 From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Mar 7 09:40:10 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:40:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting suspension (no spridget content) Message-ID: Thinking outside the box and inside the wheel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w7_N9Aenn8 From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Mar 7 09:56:11 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:56:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air actuated engine valves (no spridget content) Message-ID: I guess I'm a bit distracted today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bch5B23_pu0 From miniac7 at aol.com Wed Mar 6 18:37:02 2013 From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:37:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question In-Reply-To: <8A081F6F-4E5C-4C84-8C3D-3732F76EF495@me.com> References: <802E1738-38B8-46D1-832E-88737BB823D3@me.com> <4838040B94624E1DBAF788F43C578B3E@user8634b3d69b> <8A081F6F-4E5C-4C84-8C3D-3732F76EF495@me.com> Message-ID: MG 1100? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > All I've seen is a photo from the front. I'm fairly certain that it is a Mini > rather than a Austin Amercia, or was that MG? > > > Bob and Dolores > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 2:09 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > >> As a quick question - which way does the engine face - north-south or > east-west? >> All Minis had transverse (east-west) engines. >> It could be an Austin Mini. >> >> Guy R Day >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kitterer" < >> To: "Spridgets" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:05 PM >> Subject: [Spridgets] Mini question >> >> >>> A friend meet a fellow in NV who had a car he called an Austin Healey but > the >>> picture looks like a late model original Mini. I have not been able to > find >>> any information where Donald modified a Mini. Does anyone know of such a >>> car? >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> Bob and Dolores >>> >>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From shop at justbrits.com Fri Mar 8 10:18:09 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 11:18:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Same Co. butg no 'title' - gives it away (sortof spridget content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <513A1D51.2030706@justbrits.com> << On 3/7/2013 10:56 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: I guess I'm a bit distracted today: >> Understatement, Trevor ! ! ! HOW did you miss THIS one????: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzVc13UF2s8 Pay CLOSE attention to what he says (@ 1/2 - 2/3 thru) about 4 bangers ! ! ! From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 8 13:32:46 2013 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:32:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine, and parts## Message-ID: <1362774766.60692.YahooMailNeo@web161302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Maryville Tennessee. N.F.I. http://knoxville.craigslist.org/pts/3556594607.html From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Mar 8 13:43:43 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:43:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine, and parts## In-Reply-To: <1362774766.60692.YahooMailNeo@web161302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1362774766.60692.YahooMailNeo@web161302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1362775423.78810.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Should I write to him and tell him I sold two of the same spec engines for $300 less than he is asking? jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Red Midget Maryville Tennessee. N.F.I. http://knoxville.craigslist.org/pts/3556594607.html From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 9 13:07:44 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] gone baby, gone.... Message-ID: <1362859664.37094.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Gone baby, gone... Sold the car today to a guy in TN. He's gonna Auto Cross it. Pretty cool, but kinda sad. Thanks all you guys for all your help, encouragement, and knowledge over the years. I'll pop into the list every now and then to check in. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ From mark at bradakis.com Tue Mar 12 23:14:20 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:14:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Forums Message-ID: <51400B2C.4060506@bradakis.com> I have fixed the problem with new registrations for the forums [ link below ] so those who are not already registered can sign up. mjb. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Mar 13 15:12:43 2013 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can anyone here help this gentleman? Cheers!! Jim ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sprite Midget Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM Subject: Fwd: King Pin Reamer To: Jim Johnson ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM Subject: King Pin Reamer To: SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com ** I am restoring a 1972 MG Midget and am in need of a King Pin Reamer. New sources appear to be out of stock with no dates of availability. If you have one available or know who has one, please let me know. Thank you, David Ventura -- Jim Johnson Sprite - Midget Club USA 1001 First Ave Dodge City, KS 67801 SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 From abcoz at hky.com Wed Mar 13 15:36:33 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03e401ce2032$d5791920$806b4b60$@hky.com> Scott Harper, at Team Triumph, in Warren, OH. offers a rebuilding service. For a very reasonable price. Just have your friend contact Scott at 330-392-7176 (he's not real good about email correspondence) and Scott can give him the details. Scott will probably have a reconditioned Spridget king pin/stub axle assembly in stock and can send it out right away. Scott is one of the finest people you can ever hope to encounter in the Brit car world. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:13 PM To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer Can anyone here help this gentleman? Cheers!! Jim ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sprite Midget Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM Subject: Fwd: King Pin Reamer To: Jim Johnson ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM Subject: King Pin Reamer To: SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com ** I am restoring a 1972 MG Midget and am in need of a King Pin Reamer. New sources appear to be out of stock with no dates of availability. If you have one available or know who has one, please let me know. Thank you, David Ventura -- Jim Johnson Sprite - Midget Club USA 1001 First Ave Dodge City, KS 67801 SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/abcoz at hky.com From peter at nosimport.com Wed Mar 13 15:44:02 2013 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer In-Reply-To: <03e401ce2032$d5791920$806b4b60$@hky.com> References: <03e401ce2032$d5791920$806b4b60$@hky.com> Message-ID: <20130313214402.2AD76F44072@mx2.netinteraction.com> I agree about Scott. Nice guy. Peter C -- At 04:36 PM 3/13/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote: >Scott Harper, at Team Triumph, in Warren, OH. offers a rebuilding service. >For a very reasonable price. Just have your friend contact Scott at >330-392-7176 (he's not real good about email correspondence) and Scott can >give him the details. Scott will probably have a reconditioned Spridget >king pin/stub axle assembly in stock and can send it out right away. >Scott is one of the finest people you can ever hope to encounter in the Brit >car world. > >Bud Osbourne > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:13 PM >To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list >Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer > >Can anyone here help this gentleman? > >Cheers!! >Jim From george.brokaw at cox.net Wed Mar 13 15:49:28 2013 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:49:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer In-Reply-To: <20130313214402.2AD76F44072@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <03e401ce2032$d5791920$806b4b60$@hky.com> <20130313214402.2AD76F44072@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <0b0b01ce2034$a3a6aa00$eaf3fe00$@cox.net> Funny, I was just about to recommend YOU, Peter, since you did mine! :^) Paul Herder -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:44 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer I agree about Scott. Nice guy. Peter C -- At 04:36 PM 3/13/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote: >Scott Harper, at Team Triumph, in Warren, OH. offers a rebuilding service. >For a very reasonable price. Just have your friend contact Scott at >330-392-7176 (he's not real good about email correspondence) and Scott >can give him the details. Scott will probably have a reconditioned >Spridget king pin/stub axle assembly in stock and can send it out right away. >Scott is one of the finest people you can ever hope to encounter in the >Brit car world. > >Bud Osbourne > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:13 PM >To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list >Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer > >Can anyone here help this gentleman? > >Cheers!! >Jim ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/george.brokaw at cox.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 14 09:13:59 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:13:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Free brochure link for cars Message-ID: * www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html * * * *Great link guys look up your American car from your youth and see print and download the brochure.* *Lin* From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 14 18:23:28 2013 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:23:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer In-Reply-To: <20130313214402.2AD76F44072@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <03e401ce2032$d5791920$806b4b60$@hky.com> <20130313214402.2AD76F44072@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <6E410F62-9533-4758-A667-A4DF86C00D0E@yahoo.com> Wow - I first talked to Scott back in 1991 restoring my Spitfire. Good to know he's still around. Ron On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > I agree about Scott. Nice guy. Peter C > -- > At 04:36 PM 3/13/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote: >> Scott Harper, at Team Triumph, in Warren, OH. offers a rebuilding service. >> For a very reasonable price. Just have your friend contact Scott at >> 330-392-7176 (he's not real good about email correspondence) and Scott can >> give him the details. Scott will probably have a reconditioned Spridget >> king pin/stub axle assembly in stock and can send it out right away. >> Scott is one of the finest people you can ever hope to encounter in the Brit >> car world. >> >> Bud Osbourne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson >> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:13 PM >> To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list >> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer >> >> Can anyone here help this gentleman? >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Mar 15 12:35:35 2013 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:35:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer Message-ID: <38BD31738F9243B5AE655E60EAC05340@mail2world.com> Same here, Peter, you did a great job on mine several years ago! -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Paul Herder [george.brokaw at cox.net] >Sent: 3/13/2013 4:54:28 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer > >Funny, I was just about to recommend YOU, Peter, since you did mine! :^) > >Paul Herder > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:44 PM >To: 'Spridgets' >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer > >I agree about Scott. Nice guy. Peter C >-- >At 04:36 PM 3/13/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote: >>Scott Harper, at Team Triumph, in Warren, OH. offers a rebuilding service. >>For a very reasonable price. Just have your friend contact Scott at >>330-392-7176 (he's not real good about email correspondence) and Scott >>can give him the details. Scott will probably have a reconditioned >>Spridget king pin/stub axle assembly in stock and can send it out right >away. >>Scott is one of the finest people you can ever hope to encounter in the >>Brit car world. >> >>Bud Osbourne >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >>[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson >>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:13 PM >>To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list >>Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer >> >>Can anyone here help this gentleman? >> >>Cheers!! >>Jim >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/george.brokaw at cox.net >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu >. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 16 11:04:17 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:04:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 16 11:09:09 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:09:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale Message-ID: <01B10AEAD6734C25BE80D4A187010CEE@HomePC> I have a brand new Weber 42 DCOE sidedraft carb for sale. My plans have changed and I no longer have the car I was going to put it on. Asking $275 OBO. From abcoz at hky.com Thu Mar 14 20:06:15 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:06:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer In-Reply-To: <6E410F62-9533-4758-A667-A4DF86C00D0E@yahoo.com> References: <03e401ce2032$d5791920$806b4b60$@hky.com> <20130313214402.2AD76F44072@mx2.netinteraction.com> <6E410F62-9533-4758-A667-A4DF86C00D0E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010701ce2121$ad205de0$076119a0$@hky.com> Yeah, he had a pretty rough time of it, a few years back. For a while, it didn't look like he was going to make it. He's in much better health, at this point and I hope it stays that way. A bunch of us in the Pittsburgh area Triumph and MG clubs think the world of him. We make a point of getting up to Warren to visit him a couple (several, actually) of times a year. Bud -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:23 PM To: Peter Caldwell Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer Wow - I first talked to Scott back in 1991 restoring my Spitfire. Good to know he's still around. Ron On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > I agree about Scott. Nice guy. Peter C > -- > At 04:36 PM 3/13/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote: >> Scott Harper, at Team Triumph, in Warren, OH. offers a rebuilding service. >> For a very reasonable price. Just have your friend contact Scott at >> 330-392-7176 (he's not real good about email correspondence) and >> Scott can give him the details. Scott will probably have a >> reconditioned Spridget king pin/stub axle assembly in stock and can send it out right away. >> Scott is one of the finest people you can ever hope to encounter in >> the Brit >> car world. >> >> Bud Osbourne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson >> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:13 PM >> To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list >> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: King Pin Reamer >> >> Can anyone here help this gentleman? >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/abcoz at hky.com From bkitterer at me.com Sat Mar 16 14:43:28 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:43:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DDEFD59-E067-4AAF-96F3-DE0F5A249866@me.com> It worked Bob and Dolores On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Mar 16 14:47:51 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale Message-ID: <3f19.7298154a.3e763477@aol.com> Ask double if not three times that. Rare, NLA and a 40 or 45 would cost double anyway. In a message dated 16/03/2013 17:09:26 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: I have a brand new Weber 42 DCOE sidedraft carb for sale. My plans have changed and I no longer have the car I was going to put it on. Asking $275 OBO. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 17 08:44:42 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:44:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. Message-ID: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> Last year before I buttoned up the Sprite for winter I took it for a usual weekly ride. About 4 miles from home I was waiting to get around a tree service crew. As I passed them the car began to stumble an run really rough. It felt like it was running on two cyclinders along with a pinging type of sound. I limped home and parked the car for winter. I figured that perhaps something was wrong with my home brewed MSD box. I would deal with it in the Spring. So today I'm out troubleshooting the thing. I started by making a little harness that allows me to swap out the MSD box. I figured this is a good thing to have anyway. But the MSD box was not the issue. In fact spark is not the issue. Plenty of spark on every cylinder even without the msd box. It seemed like at idle, I could pull cylinders 1 & 2 spark plug boots and not see an appreciable drop in rpms. So I thought maybe something was wrong with the front SU carb. I opened and drained it's float and removed the bell. I then took canned air and reverse blew through the main jet to make sure the tube was not clogged. That was'nt it. Now I'm worried, so I pull the valve cover to make sure none of the rocker adjuster had'nt worked loose. No problem there... So now I'm thinking either valves or head gasket. But the failure was sudden. Has to be head gasket. I Googled "symptoms of blown head gasket between cylinders" and I find this... http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&threa d=102462 Which has a link to this video on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k1zNcXUq834 Which is almost EXACTLY what my Sprite sounds like right now. Guess I need to finish up that 12G295 head in a hurry. Ordered all the bits. Need to get this done before the 55th shindig... From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 08:51:38 2013 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:51:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. In-Reply-To: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> References: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> Message-ID: Dean, A leak-down compression test will tell you if you have a problem with the head gasket (before you rip the head off ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Last year before I buttoned up the Sprite for winter I took it for a usual > weekly ride. > > About 4 miles from home I was waiting to get around a tree service crew. > As I passed them the car began to stumble an run really rough. It felt > like > it was running > on two cyclinders along with a pinging type of sound. > > I limped home and parked the car for winter. I figured that perhaps > something was wrong > with my home brewed MSD box. I would deal with it in the Spring. > > So today I'm out troubleshooting the thing. I started by making a little > harness that allows > me to swap out the MSD box. I figured this is a good thing to have anyway. > But the MSD box > was not the issue. In fact spark is not the issue. Plenty of spark on > every > cylinder even without > the msd box. > > It seemed like at idle, I could pull cylinders 1 & 2 spark plug boots and > not see an appreciable > drop in rpms. So I thought maybe something was wrong with the front SU > carb. > > I opened and drained it's float and removed the bell. I then took canned > air and reverse blew > through the main jet to make sure the tube was not clogged. > > That was'nt it. > > Now I'm worried, so I pull the valve cover to make sure none of the rocker > adjuster had'nt worked > loose. No problem there... > > So now I'm thinking either valves or head gasket. But the failure was > sudden. Has to be head gasket. > > I Googled "symptoms of blown head gasket between cylinders" and I find > this... > > http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&threa > d=102462 > > Which has a link to this video on youtube... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k1zNcXUq834 > > Which is almost EXACTLY what my Sprite sounds like right now. > > Guess I need to finish up that 12G295 head in a hurry. Ordered all the > bits. > Need to get this done > before the 55th shindig... > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kevinv1275 at gmail.com From biffjones at verizon.net Sun Mar 17 09:00:38 2013 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:00:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. References: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1515E641B5BD43BA8AF3591D2C33019A@dell1> Check the intake header/head connection and the carb/ intake manifold connection for air leaks. From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sun Mar 17 09:06:17 2013 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:06:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. In-Reply-To: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> References: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <201303171506.r2HF6hkM023610@mail.usimperio.com> Pull one plug at a time and do a compression test on each cylinder. My Morris did the same as your Sprite and the problem was two valve seats dropped out of cylinders 1 and 4. Dave At 10:44 AM 3/17/2013, you wrote: >Last year before I buttoned up the Sprite for winter I took it for a usual >weekly ride. > >About 4 miles from home I was waiting to get around a tree service crew. >As I passed them the car began to stumble an run really rough. It felt like >it was running >on two cyclinders along with a pinging type of sound. > >I limped home and parked the car for winter. I figured that perhaps >something was wrong >with my home brewed MSD box. I would deal with it in the Spring. > >So today I'm out troubleshooting the thing. I started by making a little >harness that allows >me to swap out the MSD box. I figured this is a good thing to have anyway. >But the MSD box >was not the issue. In fact spark is not the issue. Plenty of spark on every >cylinder even without >the msd box. > >It seemed like at idle, I could pull cylinders 1 & 2 spark plug boots and >not see an appreciable >drop in rpms. So I thought maybe something was wrong with the front SU carb. > >I opened and drained it's float and removed the bell. I then took canned >air and reverse blew >through the main jet to make sure the tube was not clogged. > >That was'nt it. > >Now I'm worried, so I pull the valve cover to make sure none of the rocker >adjuster had'nt worked >loose. No problem there... > >So now I'm thinking either valves or head gasket. But the failure was >sudden. Has to be head gasket. From abcoz at hky.com Sun Mar 17 10:32:37 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:32:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. In-Reply-To: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> References: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <025e01ce232d$0a0715a0$1e1540e0$@hky.com> Had a similar problem, last fall, with the MGB I was putting together for my wife. To make a very long story short, it was nothing more than fuel starvation, caused by a partial blockage of the hard line that runs under the car. Before you do anything radical, like pulling the head, make damn sure you don't have a fuel supply issue. Look at the simple, inexpensive items first, before working your way up the "food chain" in order of expense and difficulty/complication. We all have a tendency to out-smart ourselves, on occasion, when trying to diagnose problems on these cars and it's a very easy trap to fall into. Some guys never escape it. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:45 AM To: 'spridgets' Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. Last year before I buttoned up the Sprite for winter I took it for a usual weekly ride. About 4 miles from home I was waiting to get around a tree service crew. As I passed them the car began to stumble an run really rough. It felt like it was running on two cyclinders along with a pinging type of sound. I limped home and parked the car for winter. I figured that perhaps something was wrong with my home brewed MSD box. I would deal with it in the Spring. So today I'm out troubleshooting the thing. I started by making a little harness that allows me to swap out the MSD box. I figured this is a good thing to have anyway. But the MSD box was not the issue. In fact spark is not the issue. Plenty of spark on every cylinder even without the msd box. It seemed like at idle, I could pull cylinders 1 & 2 spark plug boots and not see an appreciable drop in rpms. So I thought maybe something was wrong with the front SU carb. I opened and drained it's float and removed the bell. I then took canned air and reverse blew through the main jet to make sure the tube was not clogged. That was'nt it. Now I'm worried, so I pull the valve cover to make sure none of the rocker adjuster had'nt worked loose. No problem there... So now I'm thinking either valves or head gasket. But the failure was sudden. Has to be head gasket. I Googled "symptoms of blown head gasket between cylinders" and I find this... http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&threa d=102462 Which has a link to this video on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k1zNcXUq834 Which is almost EXACTLY what my Sprite sounds like right now. Guess I need to finish up that 12G295 head in a hurry. Ordered all the bits. Need to get this done before the 55th shindig... From Ron.Corry at iol.ie Sun Mar 17 11:17:41 2013 From: Ron.Corry at iol.ie (Ron Corry) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:17:41 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. In-Reply-To: <025e01ce232d$0a0715a0$1e1540e0$@hky.com> References: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> <025e01ce232d$0a0715a0$1e1540e0$@hky.com> Message-ID: My fuel pump sorta failed, and gave me exactly the same type of result. As Bud says, check you have these things right:- atomised Fuel, Compression and Spark (at the right time). If those three are right for all four cylinders, the engine should fire up nicely. On changing to a new fuel pump, my engine ran just fine. My b,0.02 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Dean Hedin'" ; "'spridgets'" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. > Had a similar problem, last fall, with the MGB I was putting together for > my > wife. To make a very long story short, it was nothing more than fuel > starvation, caused by a partial blockage of the hard line that runs under > the car. Before you do anything radical, like pulling the head, make damn > sure you don't have a fuel supply issue. Look at the simple, inexpensive > items first, before working your way up the "food chain" in order of > expense > and difficulty/complication. > We all have a tendency to out-smart ourselves, on occasion, when trying to > diagnose problems on these cars and it's a very easy trap to fall into. > Some guys never escape it. > > Bud Osbourne > > -----Original Message----- >>From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:45 AM > To: 'spridgets' > Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. > > Last year before I buttoned up the Sprite for winter I took it for a usual > weekly ride. > > About 4 miles from home I was waiting to get around a tree service crew. > As I passed them the car began to stumble an run really rough. It felt > like > it was running on two cyclinders along with a pinging type of sound. > > I limped home and parked the car for winter. I figured that perhaps > something was wrong with my home brewed MSD box. I would deal with it in > the Spring. > > So today I'm out troubleshooting the thing. I started by making a little > harness that allows me to swap out the MSD box. I figured this is a good > thing to have anyway. > But the MSD box > was not the issue. In fact spark is not the issue. Plenty of spark on > every > cylinder even without the msd box. > > It seemed like at idle, I could pull cylinders 1 & 2 spark plug boots and > not see an appreciable drop in rpms. So I thought maybe something was > wrong > with the front SU carb. > > I opened and drained it's float and removed the bell. I then took canned > air and reverse blew through the main jet to make sure the tube was not > clogged. > > That was'nt it. > > Now I'm worried, so I pull the valve cover to make sure none of the rocker > adjuster had'nt worked loose. No problem there... > > So now I'm thinking either valves or head gasket. But the failure was > sudden. Has to be head gasket. > > I Googled "symptoms of blown head gasket between cylinders" and I find > this... > http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&threa > d=102462 > > Which has a link to this video on youtube... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k1zNcXUq834 > > Which is almost EXACTLY what my Sprite sounds like right now. > > Guess I need to finish up that 12G295 head in a hurry. Ordered all the > bits. > Need to get this done > before the 55th shindig... > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ron.corry at iol.ie From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 17 11:59:54 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:59:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting.. In-Reply-To: <1363538697.78022.YahooMailNeo@web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <5A90AB4C81ED4A308A9E74ECE96BAA7C@blackbox2> <025e01ce232d$0a0715a0$1e1540e0$@hky.com> <1363538697.78022.YahooMailNeo@web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At this point I am 100% certain it is a blown head gasket between cylinders 1 & 2. I'll probably pull the head next weekend and we will see. Remember, I was planing to install a refurbed 12G295 head anyhow. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 17 13:58:47 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:58:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale In-Reply-To: <3f19.7298154a.3e763477@aol.com> References: <3f19.7298154a.3e763477@aol.com> Message-ID: <6D08B6FD6B97443D9E332D038EA0F4E6@HomePC> Daniel, Ibm sure I could probably get a bit more for this if I wanted to wait for the right buyer. Double or triple sounds a little optimistic to me, though. If you know anybody willing to give me that much, please send them my way and Ibll cut you a nice commission! In any case, Ibm not losing anything on it at $275, so Ibm ok with this. Larry From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:47 PM To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale Ask double if not three times that. Rare, NLA and a 40 or 45 would cost double anyway. In a message dated 16/03/2013 17:09:26 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: I have a brand new Weber 42 DCOE sidedraft carb for sale. My plans have changed and I no longer have the car I was going to put it on. Asking $275 OBO. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Mar 17 15:17:49 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale Message-ID: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> Hi Larry, In the UK I doubt you get could a brand new 40 or 45 for whatever UK pounds B#275 works out in dollars (maybe US$500?) ! Why not list on UK ebay? Of course the really rare webers will fetch a couple of thousands pounds. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 (who is Daniel?) In a message dated 17/03/2013 19:58:53 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Daniel, Ibm sure I could probably get a bit more for this if I wanted to wait for the right buyer. Double or triple sounds a little optimistic to me, though. If you know anybody willing to give me that much, please send them my way and Ibll cut you a nice commission! In any case, Ibm not losing anything on it at $275, so Ibm ok with this. Larry From: _WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_ (mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:47 PM To: _ladaniels at sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net) ; _spridgets at autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net) Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale Ask double if not three times that. Rare, NLA and a 40 or 45 would cost double anyway. In a message dated 16/03/2013 17:09:26 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: I have a brand new Weber 42 DCOE sidedraft carb for sale. My plans have changed and I no longer have the car I was going to put it on. Asking $275 OBO. From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 17 15:34:23 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:34:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale In-Reply-To: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> References: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> Message-ID: <514636DF.1040109@bradakis.com> If I had the money I'd have bought it already. 42s are a good size for Triumph TR3-4s. Think anyone would get suspicious if I started the Team.Net spring fund drive now? Donate early, donate often! mjb. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 17 16:23:06 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:23:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale In-Reply-To: <514636DF.1040109@bradakis.com> References: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> <514636DF.1040109@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1E30934B5ABF457EB3640DC62D9A732A@HomePC> What do you mean early? Spring starts in only three days. I'll start it out by donating $25 to the MJB Weber Carb Fund Drive! It's not like we don't all owe you! Larry -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:34 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale If I had the money I'd have bought it already. 42s are a good size for Triumph TR3-4s. Think anyone would get suspicious if I started the Team.Net spring fund drive now? Donate early, donate often! mjb. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From mark at bradakis.com Sun Mar 17 16:34:16 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:34:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale In-Reply-To: <1E30934B5ABF457EB3640DC62D9A732A@HomePC> References: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> <514636DF.1040109@bradakis.com> <1E30934B5ABF457EB3640DC62D9A732A@HomePC> Message-ID: <514644E8.6050703@bradakis.com> Larry Daniels wrote: > What do you mean early? Spring starts in only three days. I'll start it > out by donating $25 to the MJB Weber Carb Fund Drive! > > It's not like we don't all owe you! > > > Larry > > Traditionally I send out the message begging for money on April 11th the "birthday" of Team.Net - that was the day in 1991 that the domain was registered. Some of you on Facebook may have seen my post about how my favorite radio station started its fund drive this weekend, and they go on and on and on for nine days. Aren't you glad I don't do that? mjb. From bkitterer at me.com Sun Mar 17 18:21:21 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:21:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding the Sprite Message-ID: <532B8356-4A01-453E-B524-9A5F72C3ED0A@me.com> Photos and some articles from when we redid our Sprite in 1996 are up on the web site. Enjoy http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/rebuilding-the-sprite/ Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 17 18:30:27 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:30:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding the Sprite In-Reply-To: <532B8356-4A01-453E-B524-9A5F72C3ED0A@me.com> References: <532B8356-4A01-453E-B524-9A5F72C3ED0A@me.com> Message-ID: <31354173942C43BF99D7A4BDDBB8E35D@blackbox2> I love Nevada Beige even more so now with wire wheels. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kitterer Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:21 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding the Sprite Photos and some articles from when we redid our Sprite in 1996 are up on the web site. Enjoy http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/rebuilding-the-sprite/ Bob and Dolores From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 17 18:41:01 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:41:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding the Sprite In-Reply-To: <532B8356-4A01-453E-B524-9A5F72C3ED0A@me.com> References: <532B8356-4A01-453E-B524-9A5F72C3ED0A@me.com> Message-ID: <209223DEBF3F4A53A76BF728559EE19B@blackbox2> Man, I never saw your web page before. Love the original photos from 1960. Explain what this photo is about. http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/1960-austin-healey-sprite/photos-1960-spri te/1960-austin-healey-sprite08.html The photo with all the stuff on and in front of the car. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kitterer Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:21 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding the Sprite Photos and some articles from when we redid our Sprite in 1996 are up on the web site. Enjoy http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/rebuilding-the-sprite/ Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 17 19:25:09 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding the Sprite In-Reply-To: <209223DEBF3F4A53A76BF728559EE19B@blackbox2> References: <532B8356-4A01-453E-B524-9A5F72C3ED0A@me.com> <209223DEBF3F4A53A76BF728559EE19B@blackbox2> Message-ID: <51466CF5.90100@justbrits.com> << On 3/17/2013 7:41 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: Man, I never saw your web page before. >> You blind, Dean ? ? ? LOL Bob has announced it 3 or 4 DOZEN times lately ! ! ! (NO, I am NOT gonna go thru The Archives to "actually" count them ) << Love the count original photos from 1960. >> They ARE kewl ! ! ! << Explain what this photo is about. http://www.gpsztwo.net/automotive/1960-austin-healey-sprite/photos-1960-spri te/1960-austin-healey-sprite08.html >> There IS a caption, right ? ! ? And the link you posted IS a PERFECT example of when to USE www.tinyurl.co ! ! ! From mark at bradakis.com Mon Mar 18 12:51:27 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:51:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! Message-ID: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this morning. Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a check it will likely be a few days before I see it. Thanks again, mjb. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Mar 18 19:23:23 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> References: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Life is too short for Mark not to have the rare and coveted 42 DCOE Weber. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:51 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this morning. Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a check it will likely be a few days before I see it. Thanks again, mjb. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 06:30:21 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:30:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chuck Christ Message-ID: If you see this, send me a message off list please. -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 11:05:46 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. Message-ID: Hi Listers, It's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a motor porter which is a VW dealer item. The beauty is that you have more than one axis of movement to help get the little airhead motors into beetles and buses So put this image in your head and when you come across one let me know. http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg you may recall seeing one look like this: http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg or this: http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg Thanks Linda From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 19 13:35:56 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Porter Message-ID: <1363721756.16976.YahooMailNeo@web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Linda, Who needs a high tech tool like that. I can recall jacking up my '63 Bug, disconnecting all bolts and hoses and wires, and along with a couple of friends dropping the whole engine onto a big stack of newspapers. Reverse was just about the same. We might have used a scissors jack to balance the engine atop of as we put it back in place. With some of those students of yours you ought to be able to do the same. Can't say it was exactly safe but "Necessity Is The..." From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 19 13:41:56 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:41:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83D8EE661DE247E495C8E6074C545255@spider> Try googling VW "motor porter" ...then save the results at http://tinyurl.com/brbl9pv http://tinyurl.com/ca76dup http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59988 http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=124840636 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1437871 ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:06 AM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. Hi Listers, It's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a motor porter which is a VW dealer item. The beauty is that you have more than one axis of movement to help get the little airhead motors into beetles and buses So put this image in your head and when you come across one let me know. http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg you may recall seeing one look like this: http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg or this: http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg Thanks Linda ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 14:02:44 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:02:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Porter In-Reply-To: <1363721756.16976.YahooMailNeo@web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1363721756.16976.YahooMailNeo@web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Somewhere there's a video of a father/son team who drive a Beetle up, swap out the motor, and drive off in under 30 minutes. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 17 18:28:23 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:28:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale In-Reply-To: <1E30934B5ABF457EB3640DC62D9A732A@HomePC> References: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> <514636DF.1040109@bradakis.com> <1E30934B5ABF457EB3640DC62D9A732A@HomePC> Message-ID: <8536B9780DEF4EE090917B7E8A74441F@blackbox2> Here..here.. I second it...with a $25 donation. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:23 PM To: Mark J Bradakis; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale What do you mean early? Spring starts in only three days. I'll start it out by donating $25 to the MJB Weber Carb Fund Drive! It's not like we don't all owe you! Larry -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:34 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale If I had the money I'd have bought it already. 42s are a good size for Triumph TR3-4s. Think anyone would get suspicious if I started the Team.Net spring fund drive now? Donate early, donate often! mjb. ------------------------ From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 08:30:30 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:30:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] fate of the Midget In-Reply-To: References: <5F87FC215C7949C8BEEE8244478008A8@AndrewHP> <4BE61F7A.8070204@comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm reviving this old thread as I was looking for some sheet metal tools for our shop order at school and wanted to know what our sheet metal gauge is on our Spridgets and or other cars. Boy's Frank will always be with us helping us all the way with his kindness in his words on the threads here on the list. Lin On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, derf wrote: > Sometimes it helps to bring donuts. > > > > Tell them you are patching up an old car, they will help. > > My shop is union, and they told me it will cost union rates to fire up > and > > use the machines so the guys made my stuff on their coffee break so I > didn't > > have to pay the going rate. > > > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Mar 20 05:08:01 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 04:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale In-Reply-To: <8536B9780DEF4EE090917B7E8A74441F@blackbox2> References: <1f9.4edfb229.3e778cfd@aol.com> <514636DF.1040109@bradakis.com><1E30934B5ABF457EB3640DC62D9A732A@HomePC> <8536B9780DEF4EE090917B7E8A74441F@blackbox2> Message-ID: <36A9B4EEC03F4BA3B82C9903A4102FE8@spider> ...and another $25 into the Carb pot. Bill in Oregon ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 5:28 PM To: 'Larry Daniels'; 'Mark J Bradakis'; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale Here..here.. I second it...with a $25 donation. ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:23 PM To: Mark J Bradakis; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale What do you mean early? Spring starts in only three days. I'll start it out by donating $25 to the MJB Weber Carb Fund Drive! It's not like we don't all owe you! Larry =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:34 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber 42 DCOE for sale If I had the money I'd have bought it already. 42s are a good size for Triumph TR3-4s. Think anyone would get suspicious if I started the Team.Net spring fund drive now? Donate early, donate often! mjb. ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From abcoz at hky.com Wed Mar 20 08:30:34 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:30:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> I wonder how many they actually sold. I've never seen one before and I was very involved with air-cooled VWs (and getting back into them, again, now) back when they were new. I know the dealers around Pittsburgh never used them, nor did the VW dealer I worked for in Alton, IL. Pretty neat devices, for sure. Still, most VW guys (myself included) did just fine with a conventional floor jack. When combined with a shop lift (the dealers used a 4 post model, which was pretty much the standard for VW/Porsche service departments), the floor jack made short work of an engine r&r for an experienced mechanic. Lin, you might want to keep your eyes peeled, at Import Carlisle. You just never know when something like that might show up. Bud -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:06 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. Hi Listers, It's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a motor porter which is a VW dealer item. The beauty is that you have more than one axis of movement to help get the little airhead motors into beetles and buses So put this image in your head and when you come across one let me know. http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg you may recall seeing one look like this: http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg or this: http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg Thanks Linda From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Mar 20 09:07:38 2013 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter,- Now Speedwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1363792058.61264.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Lin, Never saw that before, I always used an old skateboard. Anyway, it wasn't a dealer item, it was made by EMPI, who produced all kinds of V-dub speed parts. And in the world of six degrees of Sprite separation, my googling discovered that EMPI had a tie-in with Speedwell. This article even mentions the Motor Porter: http://www.kes.u-net.com/speedwell/story.html Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. Hi Listers, It's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a motor porter which is a VW dealer item. The beauty is that you have more than one axis of movement to help get the little airhead motors into beetles and buses So put this image in your head and when you come across one let me know. http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg you may recall seeing one look like this: http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg or this: http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg Thanks Linda ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From r.alkins001 at comcast.net Wed Mar 20 09:38:08 2013 From: r.alkins001 at comcast.net (Randy Alkins) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:38:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sign on Message-ID: <3CCD07FB55784F2AA9626786E957D585@CaptRandyPC> Tried to log on but says user name is inactive. CaptRandy From mark at bradakis.com Wed Mar 20 09:48:04 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:48:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sign on In-Reply-To: <3CCD07FB55784F2AA9626786E957D585@CaptRandyPC> References: <3CCD07FB55784F2AA9626786E957D585@CaptRandyPC> Message-ID: <5149DA34.40402@bradakis.com> Randy Alkins wrote: > Tried to log on but says user name is inactive. CaptRandy > Oops. My fault, you should be set now. mjb. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 10:47:23 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:47:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: <83D8EE661DE247E495C8E6074C545255@spider> References: <83D8EE661DE247E495C8E6074C545255@spider> Message-ID: Wow how did I miss that on on the samba site of which I have my thread for my bus? Good eye, Yes the HF motorcycle stands are similar but wow it sure would be nice to have the tilting axis for aligning up the bolts. Lin On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM, wrote: > Try googling VW "motor porter" ...then save the results at > http://tinyurl.com/brbl9pv > > > http://tinyurl.com/ca76dup > > http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59988 > > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=124840636 > > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1437871 > > ======================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:06 AM > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see > image. > > Hi Listers, > It's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a > motor porter which is a VW dealer item. The beauty is that you have more > than one axis of movement to help get the little airhead motors into > beetles and buses So put this image in your head and when you come across > one let me know. > > http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg > > you may recall seeing one look like this: > http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg > > or this: > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg > > Thanks Linda > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 10:51:39 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:51:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> References: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> Message-ID: Hey Bud that's a great idea as many people may not even know what it is if they had it : ) Well hopeful wishing anyway. So Bud are you restoring/repairing an aircooled bus or bug now? If I had a jack like this I'm sure I can pull my engine out single handed. I don't need to pull it it would just make it easier to swap out my heater boxes as well as cool factor being every aircooled motorhead talks about how easy it is with only 4 bolts holding it in place which still amazes me. Thanks Lin On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > I wonder how many they actually sold. I've never seen one before and I was > very involved with air-cooled VWs (and getting back into them, again, now) > back when they were new. I know the dealers around Pittsburgh never used > them, nor did the VW dealer I worked for in Alton, IL. Pretty neat > devices, > for sure. Still, most VW guys (myself included) did just fine with a > conventional floor jack. When combined with a shop lift (the dealers used > a > 4 post model, which was pretty much the standard for VW/Porsche service > departments), the floor jack made short work of an engine r&r for an > experienced mechanic. > > Lin, you might want to keep your eyes peeled, at Import Carlisle. You just > never know when something like that might show up. > > Bud > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:06 PM > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see > image. > > Hi Listers, > It's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a > motor porter which is a VW dealer item. The beauty is that you have more > than one axis of movement to help get the little airhead motors into > beetles > and buses So put this image in your head and when you come across one let > me know. > > http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg > > you may recall seeing one look like this: > http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg > > or this: > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg > > Thanks Linda From abcoz at hky.com Wed Mar 20 11:36:05 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:36:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: References: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> Message-ID: <006401ce2591$66d6ec90$3484c5b0$@hky.com> Lin, Suddenly, yes, I'm finishing up a long-dormant restoration project on a '73 std. beetle. I finally accepted the reality (actually, the reality has been crammed down my throat!) that I need to replace my Golf III daily driver. I decided that I'd be damned if I would ever again have a daily driver that needed to go any farther than my own garage/workshop for ANYTHING. For me, that can only mean an air-cooled VW. I had already completed the metal work (LOTS of it!) on this particular beetle about 15+ years ago, so it's more a matter of painting and assembly. However, I've got a lot of parts to dig out of my stash, sort, clean, recondition/whatever before I actually assemble the car. Still, I expect to have the car up and running sometime in May without too much difficulty. Among the many projects assuring my immortality (wife says "don't you DARE die before you finish all of these projects and get them gone!") is my 387,000 mile '72 Super Beetle and a '68 VW panel van. The '72 SB will replace the Golf as my back-up daily driver (the '73 will replace the Golf as my main daily driver). If you can find one of those engine hoist thingies, it would be helpful, but not at all essential, for r & r ing your bus motor. A floor jack, with a good block of wood on the pad, is really all you need. After you've done it a few times, it's just like riding a bicycle. You never quite forget how. As with most things, it's best to take your time and be very methodical about it, so you don't end up with an engine hanging by a throttle cable of part of the wiring harness. ;) It really does help to have a second person, to operate the jack while the other guides the engine/tilts the engine on the jack as needed, but I've done it myself a whole bunch of times, over the years and still have all of my fingers, toes, etc..and have never damaged car or engine in the process. I'll send you some pics of the project later on. Now back to "normal" subject material: I need to schedule an appointment to get my cats' annual booster shots 7 check-ups. And it's time to get the short to medium range artillery out and start shooting this year's crop of ground hogs. Bud From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:52 PM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. Hey Bud that's a great idea as many people may not even know what it is if they had it : ) Well hopeful wishing anyway. So Bud are you restoring/repairing an aircooled bus or bug now? If I had a jack like this I'm sure I can pull my engine out single handed. I don't need to pull it it would just make it easier to swap out my heater boxes as well as cool factor being every aircooled motorhead talks about how easy it is with only 4 bolts holding it in place which still amazes me. Thanks Lin From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed Mar 20 12:13:16 2013 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:13:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item, ...see image. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5149FC3C.9030306@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Yes the HF motorcycle stands are similar but wow it sure would be nice to > have the tilting axis for aligning up the bolts. Go to your local home center and by a package of wooden shims. Where the engine needs to be tilted to align the bolt with the hole, insert a shim on that low side and tap it to raise that side of the engine. -- Kent McLean '56 Austin-Healey 100 BN2 From ridleymj at brant.net Wed Mar 20 12:41:15 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:41:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Message-ID: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> Has anybody any experience with the aluminium radiators being advertised by several groups on E-Bay. Its time for the Frog to get a replacement so I checked about and there seem to be several different firms selling but, and this is a big but, not from the places I where expected to buy - Moss US/UK, Brown& Gammons, AH Spares, Head 4 Healeys etc. - not even Vicky B. All I found was a strong denouncement from Speedwell - and their version looks very different and at twice the price. Appreciate any feedback you may have. Cheers, Martyn From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 20 13:01:35 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:01:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Message-ID: I'm sitting here wondering how many of the coming responses will contain a quote from Frank... >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Martyn Ridley wrote: Has anybody any experience with the aluminium radiators being advertised by several groups on E-Bay.B Its time for the Frog to get a replacement so I checked about and there seem to be several different firms selling but, and this is a big but, not from the places I where expected to buy - Moss US/UK, Brown& Gammons, AH Spares, Head 4 Healeys etc. - not even Vicky B.B All I found was a strong denouncement from Speedwell - and their version looks very different and at twice the price. Appreciate any feedback you may have. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Mar 20 13:11:03 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> Message-ID: <1363806663.4557.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Ron Soave has info on the subject of aluminium radiators for Sprites. I would wait for confirmation from Ron, but this may be who he has used: http://www.rondavisradiators.com jay fishbein wallingford, ct 63 Pink Sprite Mk II 61 Innocenti 950 Spider ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, March 20, 2013 2:50:44 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Has anybody any experience with the aluminium radiators being advertised by several groups on E-Bay. Its time for the Frog to get a replacement so I checked about and there seem to be several different firms selling but, and this is a big but, not from the places I where expected to buy - Moss US/UK, Brown& Gammons, AH Spares, Head 4 Healeys etc. - not even Vicky B. All I found was a strong denouncement from Speedwell - and their version looks very different and at twice the price. Appreciate any feedback you may have. From lotuspilot at frontier.com Wed Mar 20 13:27:54 2013 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <1363806663.4557.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> <1363806663.4557.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1363807674.80071.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have been using a $170 one off of ebay for nearly three years now. Not a problem at all. Mike ________________________________ From: Jay To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Ron Soave has info on the subject of aluminium radiators for Sprites. I would wait for confirmation from Ron, but this may be who he has used: http://www.rondavisradiators.com jay fishbein wallingford, ct 63 Pink Sprite Mk II 61 Innocenti 950 Spider ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, March 20, 2013 2:50:44 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Has anybody any experience with the aluminium radiators being advertised by several groups on E-Bay. Its time for the Frog to get a replacement so I checked about and there seem to be several different firms selling but, and this is a big but, not from the places I where expected to buy - Moss US/UK, Brown& Gammons, AH Spares, Head 4 Healeys etc. - not even Vicky B. All I found was a strong denouncement from Speedwell - and their version looks very different and at twice the price. Appreciate any feedback you may have. ------------------------ From ridleymj at brant.net Wed Mar 20 13:46:08 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:46:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rads - slight correction Message-ID: <514A1200.2070008@brant.net> Since writing that note I have come across European Rads from Frontline Spridget and also in the Moss UK book. Don't know how I missed them but would appreciate experiences on these also. Cheers, Martyn From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Mar 20 14:06:41 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Message-ID: <175d.3381c0e8.3e7b70d1@aol.com> You tend to get what you pay for. If I was in the USA I'd buy an aluminium radiator from Tom Colby at Speedwell. In fact even though I'm in the UK I still bought my replacement Panhard rod tower from Tom who made it in a bespoke size for me. Radiators from China are a bit like con-rods from China - they might be a bargain but then again they might not. Weslake Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/03/2013 18:43:31 GMT Standard Time, ridleymj at brant.net writes: Has anybody any experience with the aluminium radiators being advertised by several groups on E-Bay. Its time for the Frog to get a replacement so I checked about and there seem to be several different firms selling but, and this is a big but, not from the places I where expected to buy - Moss US/UK, Brown& Gammons, AH Spares, Head 4 Healeys etc. - not even Vicky B. All I found was a strong denouncement from Speedwell - and their version looks very different and at twice the price. Appreciate any feedback you may have. Cheers, Martyn From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Mar 20 19:30:40 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:30:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> Message-ID: <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the ones on ebay are from China. For a while there was only the guy in New York selling them for $500. Now I think there are a bunch of other radiator guys in the US getting in on the action. Free market at work and we all win. Like this.. http://tinyurl.com/cujls6j From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Mar 20 19:42:28 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:42:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cooling... Message-ID: >From the "BMC Special Tunning for Sprites and Midgets".. "Assuming the thermostat is working correctly, overheating can result if it is removed without fitting a blanking sleeve 11G 176 in it's place. Alternatively, the bypass connection between the cylinder head and water pump may be sealed on 'A' series engines." Does the above mean that if my 12G295 cylinder head has the bypass braized closed that I can now run without a thermostat WITHOUT using the blanking sleeve? What if I do want to run a thermostat? Do I have to unplug the bypass? From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 20 20:48:09 2013 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> Message-ID: <1363834089.21225.YahooMailNeo@web122105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> talk to Rod @ www.spridgetech.com Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: Martyn Ridley >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:41 PM >Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China > >Has anybody any experience with the aluminium radiators being advertised by several groups on E-Bay. Its time for the Frog to get a replacement so I checked about and there seem to be several different firms selling but, and this is a big but, not from the places I where expected to buy - Moss US/UK, Brown& Gammons, AH Spares, Head 4 Healeys etc. - not even Vicky B. All I found was a strong denouncement from Speedwell - and their version looks very different and at twice the price. > >Appreciate any feedback you may have. > >Cheers, >Martyn >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 20 20:52:00 2013 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1363834320.22726.YahooMailNeo@web122105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> As Jay said, Ron Davis is the very best. I have a downflow Bugeye unit on White Trash 1 and it is absolutely drop in and amazing quality. Speedwell just uses Ron's, doesn't even take the labels off. But I have a "Made in USA" excellent quality one from Rod at Spridgetech for a lot less $$ ave on White Trash 2. Talk to Rod, 810-229-8639. www.spridgetech.com Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: Dean Hedin >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:30 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China > >Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the ones on ebay are from China. >For a while there was only the guy in New York selling them for $500. > >Now I think there are a bunch of other radiator guys in the US getting >in on the action. Free market at work and we all win. > >Like this.. > >http://tinyurl.com/cujls6j >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 07:03:52 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:03:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: <006401ce2591$66d6ec90$3484c5b0$@hky.com> References: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> <006401ce2591$66d6ec90$3484c5b0$@hky.com> Message-ID: Cool my 67 bus engine is a Super Beetle engine 1600 DP, so do I have to pull the engine in order to replace my heater boxes? Hoping to do some maintenance on Pinky in the warm dry garage once the bus get all her glass. Frank would have had all this work done in one afternoon ; ) Lin On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > Lin,**** > > Suddenly, yes, Im finishing up a long-dormant restoration project on a > 73 std. beetle. I finally accepted the reality (actually, the reality has > been crammed down my throat!) that I need to replace my Golf III daily > driver. I decided that Id be damned if I would ever again have a daily > driver that needed to go any farther than my own garage/workshop for > ANYTHING. For me, that can only mean an air-cooled VW.**** > > I had already completed the metal work (LOTS of it!) on this particular > beetle about 15+ years ago, so its more a matter of painting and > assembly. However, Ive got a lot of parts to dig out of my stash, sort, > clean, recondition/whatever before I actually assemble the car. Still, I > expect to have the car up and running sometime in May without too much > difficulty.**** > > Among the many projects assuring my immortality (wife says dont you DARE > die before you finish all of these projects and get them gone!) is my > 387,000 mile 72 Super Beetle and a 68 VW panel van. The 72 SB will > replace the Golf as my back-up daily driver (the 73 will replace the Golf > as my main daily driver).**** > > ** ** > > If you can find one of those engine hoist thingies, it would be helpful, > but not at all essential, for r & r ing your bus motor. A floor jack, > with a good block of wood on the pad, is really all you need. After youve > done it a few times, its just like riding a bicycle. You never quite > forget how. As with most things, its best to take your time and be very > methodical about it, so you dont end up with an engine hanging by a > throttle cable of part of the wiring harness. ;) It really does help to > have a second person, to operate the jack while the other guides the > engine/tilts the engine on the jack as needed, but Ive done it myself a > whole bunch of times, over the years and still have all of my fingers, > toes, etcand have never damaged car or engine in the process. Ill send > you some pics of the project later on.**** > > ** ** > > Now back to normal subject material: I need to schedule an appointment > to get my cats annual booster shots 7 check-ups. And its time to get the > short to medium range artillery out and start shooting this years crop of > ground hogs.**** > > ** ** > > Bud**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:52 PM > *To:* Bud Osbourne > *Cc:* Spridget list > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item > ...see image.**** > > ** ** > > Hey Bud that's a great idea as many people may not even know what it is if > they had it : ) Well hopeful wishing anyway.**** > > So Bud are you restoring/repairing an aircooled bus or bug now? If I had a > jack like this I'm sure I can pull my engine out single handed. I don't > need to pull it it would just make it easier to swap out my heater boxes as > well as cool factor being every aircooled motorhead talks about how easy it > is with only 4 bolts holding it in place which still amazes me.**** > > Thanks Lin**** > > ** ** From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 07:10:57 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:10:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item, ...see image. In-Reply-To: <5149FC3C.9030306@comcast.net> References: <5149FC3C.9030306@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes if I have to thanks. I may just buy a motorcycle jack and modify a bit. I can also use it on my motorcycle ....wink. Thanks, Lin On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> Yes the HF motorcycle stands are similar but wow it sure would be nice to >> have the tilting axis for aligning up the bolts. >> > > Go to your local home center and by a package of wooden shims. > Where the engine needs to be tilted to align the bolt with the > hole, insert a shim on that low side and tap it to raise that > side of the engine. > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 Austin-Healey 100 BN2 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/grunthaner@**gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 07:18:56 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:18:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Will a motorcycle jack clear our spridget in the front? Message-ID: So I was thinking about how much I hate using 2 small hydraulic jacks to get stands under my Spridget and being I'll most likely buy a motorcycle jack for my bus engine (also for the bike) has anyone ever used one to lift their Spridget from the front? It appears it will easily slide under but I don't know if they are low enough or if the front mechanism will clear enough without hitting the front valance. http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-capacity-atv-motorcycle-lift-2792.html I think this Horrible Freight brand will hold up our light LBC's as it is good for 1.5K lbs. Thanks Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 07:24:52 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:24:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter,- Now Speedwell In-Reply-To: <1363792058.61264.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1363792058.61264.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow Rick very cool info, so from reading this article I do have good Karma in my little garage with both a Spridget and a VW .....wink. I'll be scoping out the treasures at Carlisle in May. Thanks for that link!!!! Lin On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:07 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Lin, > > Never saw that before, I always used an old skateboard. Anyway, it > wasn't a dealer item, it was made by EMPI, who produced all kinds of V-dub > speed parts. And in the world of six degrees of Sprite separation, my > googling discovered that EMPI had a tie-in with Speedwell. This article > even > mentions the Motor Porter: http://www.kes.u-net.com/speedwell/story.html > > > Rick > > > "Madman in a death machine" > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: > http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda > Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:05 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor > Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. > > Hi Listers, > It's a long shot but it > can't hurt to ask. This image below is called a > motor porter which is a VW > dealer item. The beauty is that you have more > than one axis of movement to > help get the little airhead motors into > beetles and buses So put this image > in your head and when you come across > one let me know. > http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/IMG_2423.jpg > > you may recall > seeing one look like this: > http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s86/TJKustoms/untitled.jpg > > or this: > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/802792.jpg > > Thanks Linda > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Thu Mar 21 08:38:05 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:38:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Will a motorcycle jack clear our spridget in the front? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A9918AF-3AD2-4EDE-882F-A61B871E5933@me.com> Have not done it - yet. But have considered modifying one to lift the entire car coming in from the passenger side to make the lift. Then putting the car on body stands. Bob and Dolores On Mar 21, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > So I was thinking about how much I hate using 2 small hydraulic jacks to > get stands under my Spridget and being I'll most likely buy > a motorcycle jack for my bus engine (also for the bike) has anyone ever > used one to lift their Spridget from the front? It appears it will easily > slide under but I don't know if they are low enough or if the front > mechanism will clear enough without hitting the front valance. > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-capacity-atv-motorcycle-lift-2792.html > > I think this Horrible Freight brand will hold up our light LBC's as it is > good for 1.5K lbs. > > Thanks Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com From abcoz at hky.com Thu Mar 21 08:42:30 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:42:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: References: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> <006401ce2591$66d6ec90$3484c5b0$@hky.com> Message-ID: <011c01ce2642$516a6fb0$f43f4f10$@hky.com> Lin, If you are into pain & suffering, I suppose you could replace the heater boxes with the engine in place. Long-time air-cooled VW folks tend to pull the engine as casually as normal people say "excuse me". ;) Look at it this way: the exhaust flange nuts are probably pretty well rusted to the manifold studs and if you break one of the studs, you're going to have to pull the engine, anyway. Also, have the heads been re-torqued since you've had the bus? Easier to do that with the engine out. On my air-cooled engines, I used to (and will, again) remove the engine every two or three years just re-torque the heads and to pull the cooling tin off and make sure everything is clean under there. It only takes a little bit of an oil mist (and if you think Spridgets leak oil...) to land on cooling fins of heads or cylinders or oil cooler and start accumulating fine particles of dust, which continues to build-up until you've got some significant blockage of cooling air. Not a good thing! Also, with the engine out, EVERYTHING on the engine (except the oil drain plug and sump plate) and engine compartment is easily accessible, so you can come up with a nice list of "might as wells". J Fun stuff! You'll want to make sure all of the rubber around the perimeter of the engine compartment and on the rear cover plate is in good shape and that there are no significant openings in the cover plates. This is critical to keeping the engine temperatures down to a survivable (for the engine) level. Also, how's the clutch looking? Bus clutches really do take a beating, so you don't want to start the season with a worn clutch. Clutch release shaft bushings OK? Easy to access with the engine out and not that difficult to replace. Food for thought and, yes, you'll want to have some help, when you pull that engine out for the first few times. Looking longingly at the Midget, yesterday and remembering that it had already been out for several runs on salt-free roads by this time, last year L Beginning to think that the run to Import Carlisle may be it's first time out, this year. By Import Carlisle, last year, I had already put a couple thousand miles on it! Bud From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:04 AM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. Cool my 67 bus engine is a Super Beetle engine 1600 DP, so do I have to pull the engine in order to replace my heater boxes? Hoping to do some maintenance on Pinky in the warm dry garage once the bus get all her glass. Frank would have had all this work done in one afternoon ; ) Lin From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Mar 21 10:22:21 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:22:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <5EA1BCADCBE1436182ED9BF99B565466@HomePC> References: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> <5EA1BCADCBE1436182ED9BF99B565466@HomePC> Message-ID: <514B33BD.1030709@wi.net> Thanks for the reminder Larry, I just sent my contribution. Win-win for all. Dave W. On 3/20/2013 9:36 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > For those who are new and not aware, Mark Bradakis is the owner of these > lists as well as quite a few others. He supplies all of the equipment and > maintenance costs and time to keep these lists going. In recognition of > that and to defray his costs to keep these lists up and running for us, we > annually contribute a few bucks to him to cover some of that expense. If > you appreciate what he does for us, please consider throwing in whatever you > feel you can afford. > > Mark has said he would like to have the 42 DCOE Weber carb I am selling. If > any of you would like to kick in a few bucks toward that, I am sure he would > appreciate it. I am putting in $25 and a couple others have done so, as > well. > > If anybody belongs to any of Marks other lists, please forward this to those > lists so they can do something as well. Mark, it may be easiest if you just > forward this to all of your lists? > > The link to contribute is on the bottom of every email that goes out to the > lists. > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Thanks, > > Larry Daniels > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Hedin > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:23 PM > To: 'Mark J Bradakis' ; Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks! > > Life is too short for Mark not to have the rare and coveted 42 DCOE Weber. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:51 PM > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! > > Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this > morning. > Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a > check it will likely be a few days before I see it. > > Thanks again, > > mjb. > ------------------------ From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 21 10:43:01 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <514B33BD.1030709@wi.net> References: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> <5EA1BCADCBE1436182ED9BF99B565466@HomePC> <514B33BD.1030709@wi.net> Message-ID: <1363884181.81505.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I just donated as well. IMO, anyone who reads or uses these list should support Mark's dedication to maintaining these lists. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: dwoerpel To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 12:23:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! Thanks for the reminder Larry, I just sent my contribution. Win-win for all. Dave W. On 3/20/2013 9:36 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > For those who are new and not aware, Mark Bradakis is the owner of these > lists as well as quite a few others. He supplies all of the equipment and > maintenance costs and time to keep these lists going. In recognition of > that and to defray his costs to keep these lists up and running for us, we > annually contribute a few bucks to him to cover some of that expense. If > you appreciate what he does for us, please consider throwing in whatever you > feel you can afford. > > Mark has said he would like to have the 42 DCOE Weber carb I am selling. If > any of you would like to kick in a few bucks toward that, I am sure he would > appreciate it. I am putting in $25 and a couple others have done so, as > well. > > If anybody belongs to any of Marks other lists, please forward this to those > lists so they can do something as well. Mark, it may be easiest if you just > forward this to all of your lists? > > The link to contribute is on the bottom of every email that goes out to the > lists. > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Thanks, > > Larry Daniels > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Hedin > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:23 PM > To: 'Mark J Bradakis' ; Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks! > > Life is too short for Mark not to have the rare and coveted 42 DCOE Weber. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:51 PM > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! > > Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this > morning. > Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a > check it will likely be a few days before I see it. > > Thanks again, > > mjb. > ------------------------ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 21 10:56:25 2013 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:56:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <1363884181.81505.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> <5EA1BCADCBE1436182ED9BF99B565466@HomePC> <514B33BD.1030709@wi.net> <1363884181.81505.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130321165617.7301FF44198@mx2.netinteraction.com> Me too... ppp At 11:43 AM 3/21/2013, Jay wrote: >I just donated as well. > >IMO, anyone who reads or uses these list should support Mark's dedication to >maintaining these lists. > > jay fishbein > >wallingford, ct > > > > >________________________________ >From: dwoerpel >To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 12:23:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! > >Thanks for the reminder Larry, I just sent my contribution. Win-win for >all. > >Dave W. > > >On 3/20/2013 9:36 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > For those who are new and not aware, Mark Bradakis is the owner of these > > lists as well as quite a few others. He supplies all of the equipment and > > maintenance costs and time to keep these lists going. In recognition of > > that and to defray his costs to keep these lists up and running for us, we > > annually contribute a few bucks to him to cover some of that expense. If > > you appreciate what he does for us, please consider throwing in > whatever you > > feel you can afford. > > > > Mark has said he would like to have the 42 DCOE Weber carb I am > selling. If > > any of you would like to kick in a few bucks toward that, I am > sure he would > > appreciate it. I am putting in $25 and a couple others have done so, as > > well. > > > > If anybody belongs to any of Marks other lists, please forward > this to those > > lists so they can do something as well. Mark, it may be easiest > if you just > > forward this to all of your lists? > > > > The link to contribute is on the bottom of every email that goes out to the > > lists. > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Larry Daniels > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dean Hedin > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:23 PM > > To: 'Mark J Bradakis' ; Spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks! > > > > Life is too short for Mark not to have the rare and coveted 42 DCOE Weber. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:51 PM > > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! > > > > Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this > > morning. > > Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a > > check it will likely be a few days before I see it. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > mjb. > > ------------------------ >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6188 - Release Date: 03/19/13 From grbyrns at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 10:59:40 2013 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:59:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> Message-ID: <287DFA97-74BB-4CAB-A4B9-A8FE64BDA2A4@gmail.com> > I've got the Speedwell rad and it's excellent. Mine also came with a cool Speedwell shift knob. My Moto Lita wheel scorched in the fire, but the Speedwell knob just needed a bit of scrubbing. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Mar 21 12:45:15 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] More on cooling... Message-ID: No Yes At least in my opinion In a message dated 21/03/2013 01:45:08 GMT Standard Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: Does the above mean that if my 12G295 cylinder head has the bypass braized closed that I can now run without a thermostat WITHOUT using the blanking sleeve? What if I do want to run a thermostat? Do I have to unplug the bypass? From bkitterer at me.com Thu Mar 21 11:20:46 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:20:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <20130321165617.7301FF44198@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> <5EA1BCADCBE1436182ED9BF99B565466@HomePC> <514B33BD.1030709@wi.net> <1363884181.81505.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130321165617.7301FF44198@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <45875888-67AD-476E-B41C-17EED6F80244@me.com> Done Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes On Mar 21, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Me too... > ppp > > At 11:43 AM 3/21/2013, Jay wrote: >> I just donated as well. >> >> IMO, anyone who reads or uses these list should support Mark's dedication to >> maintaining these lists. >> >> jay fishbein >> >> wallingford, ct >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: dwoerpel >> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 12:23:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! >> >> Thanks for the reminder Larry, I just sent my contribution. Win-win for >> all. >> >> Dave W. >> >> >> On 3/20/2013 9:36 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: >> > For those who are new and not aware, Mark Bradakis is the owner of these >> > lists as well as quite a few others. He supplies all of the equipment and >> > maintenance costs and time to keep these lists going. In recognition of >> > that and to defray his costs to keep these lists up and running for us, we >> > annually contribute a few bucks to him to cover some of that expense. If >> > you appreciate what he does for us, please consider throwing in whatever you >> > feel you can afford. >> > >> > Mark has said he would like to have the 42 DCOE Weber carb I am selling. If >> > any of you would like to kick in a few bucks toward that, I am sure he would >> > appreciate it. I am putting in $25 and a couple others have done so, as >> > well. >> > >> > If anybody belongs to any of Marks other lists, please forward this to those >> > lists so they can do something as well. Mark, it may be easiest if you just >> > forward this to all of your lists? >> > >> > The link to contribute is on the bottom of every email that goes out to the >> > lists. >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Larry Daniels >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dean Hedin >> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:23 PM >> > To: 'Mark J Bradakis' ; Spridgets at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks! >> > >> > Life is too short for Mark not to have the rare and coveted 42 DCOE Weber. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis >> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:51 PM >> > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >> > Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! >> > >> > Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this >> > morning. >> > Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a >> > check it will likely be a few days before I see it. >> > >> > Thanks again, >> > >> > mjb. >> > ------------------------ >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6188 - Release Date: 03/19/13 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com From gmari2 at verizon.net Thu Mar 21 20:16:53 2013 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (Gmari2) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <20130321165617.7301FF44198@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <5147622F.2050303@bradakis.com> <5EA1BCADCBE1436182ED9BF99B565466@HomePC> <514B33BD.1030709@wi.net> <1363884181.81505.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130321165617.7301FF44198@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <462442FD-A049-411E-A217-36657ACF7762@verizon.net> Absolutely. Thanks. George Sent from my iPad On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Me too... > ppp > > At 11:43 AM 3/21/2013, Jay wrote: >> I just donated as well. >> >> IMO, anyone who reads or uses these list should support Mark's dedication to >> maintaining these lists. >> >> jay fishbein >> >> wallingford, ct >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: dwoerpel >> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 12:23:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Thanks! >> >> Thanks for the reminder Larry, I just sent my contribution. Win-win for >> all. >> >> Dave W. >> >> >> On 3/20/2013 9:36 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: >> > For those who are new and not aware, Mark Bradakis is the owner of these >> > lists as well as quite a few others. He supplies all of the equipment and >> > maintenance costs and time to keep these lists going. In recognition of >> > that and to defray his costs to keep these lists up and running for us, we >> > annually contribute a few bucks to him to cover some of that expense. If >> > you appreciate what he does for us, please consider throwing in whatever you >> > feel you can afford. >> > >> > Mark has said he would like to have the 42 DCOE Weber carb I am selling. If >> > any of you would like to kick in a few bucks toward that, I am sure he would >> > appreciate it. I am putting in $25 and a couple others have done so, as >> > well. >> > >> > If anybody belongs to any of Marks other lists, please forward this to those >> > lists so they can do something as well. Mark, it may be easiest if you just >> > forward this to all of your lists? >> > >> > The link to contribute is on the bottom of every email that goes out to the >> > lists. >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Larry Daniels >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dean Hedin >> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:23 PM >> > To: 'Mark J Bradakis' ; Spridgets at autox.team.net >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks! >> > >> > Life is too short for Mark not to have the rare and coveted 42 DCOE Weber. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis >> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:51 PM >> > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >> > Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks! >> > >> > Well, shucks. I didn't find an extra $275 in my Paypal account this >> > morning. >> > Oh, well. But I did find a nice donation, thanks Dean! If anyone sent a >> > check it will likely be a few days before I see it. >> > >> > Thanks again, >> > >> > mjb. >> > ------------------------ >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6188 - Release Date: 03/19/13 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Mar 21 21:02:26 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:02:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> Message-ID: <61B47A87A7614A778180F0E52F46975A@blackbox2> I just want to add to this... The guy in New York was Wizard Cooling. That is a quality aluminum unit. There was the later model green Sprite with the Judson at the 50th that had one installed. It was very nicely welded together. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:31 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the ones on ebay are from China. For a while there was only the guy in New York selling them for $500. Now I think there are a bunch of other radiator guys in the US getting in on the action. Free market at work and we all win. Like this.. http://tinyurl.com/cujls6j ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From mark at bradakis.com Thu Mar 21 21:39:33 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:39:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow! Message-ID: <514BD275.4060801@bradakis.com> Larry, box up that carb. I spent the afternoon down at my favorite community radio station taking calls for their pledge drive. A nice way to support something I enjoy. And I come home to find support for something I provide that many others enjoy. Very nice. Thank you everyone, I really appreciate it. mjb. From lotuspilot at frontier.com Fri Mar 22 05:49:40 2013 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <61B47A87A7614A778180F0E52F46975A@blackbox2> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> <61B47A87A7614A778180F0E52F46975A@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1363952980.7753.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> How do I tell if I have one of the bad Chinese aluminum radiators, by the welds? Everything about the radiator looks over built even with great welding. It was an exact fit. I think the brand was Champion Radiators if that rings a bell with anyone. I really couldn't bother to clean or repair an older original radiator for the price and have run exceptionally for three years. Thanks, Mike ________________________________ From: Dean Hedin To: 'Dean Hedin' ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China I just want to add to this... The guy in New York was Wizard Cooling. That is a quality aluminum unit. There was the later model green Sprite with the Judson at the 50th that had one installed. It was very nicely welded together. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:31 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the ones on ebay are from China. For a while there was only the guy in New York selling them for $500. Now I think there are a bunch of other radiator guys in the US getting in on the action. Free market at work and we all win. Like this.. http://tinyurl.com/cujls6j ------------------------ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 10:32:59 2013 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:32:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow! In-Reply-To: <514BD275.4060801@bradakis.com> References: <514BD275.4060801@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Let me help pay for that carb. I just sent in my 2 pence...er 25 bucks. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Larry, box up that carb. > > I spent the afternoon down at my favorite community radio station taking > calls > for their pledge drive. A nice way to support something I enjoy. > > And I come home to find support for something I provide that many others > enjoy. > Very nice. Thank you everyone, I really appreciate it. > > mjb. From johnsfolly at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 11:29:25 2013 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:29:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators Message-ID: I'm running a Spridgetech radiator from Rod Hahneman as well. He told me he gets them from Ron Davis and from somebody in Indianapolis. The one he sold me came from Winners Circle but he said it was a Ron Davis without the name stenciled on the fins....therefore cheaper. However, without a tank on the radiator, I had to add a custom-fabricated remote tank on the firewall, which was an unexpected expense. --JohnD *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing >>Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Soave To: Dean Hedin , "spridgets at autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Message-ID: <1363834320.22726.YahooMailNeo at web122105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As Jay said, Ron Davis is the very best. I have a downflow Bugeye unit on White Trash 1 and it is absolutely drop in and amazing quality. Speedwell just uses Ron's, doesn't even take the labels off. But I have a "Made in USA" excellent quality one from Rod at Spridgetech for a lot less $$ ave on White Trash 2. Talk to Rod, 810-229-8639. www.spridgetech.com Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 12:59:45 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:59:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also, I've seen some good quality air/air intercoolers that were made in China. If they can make intercoolers then they can make radiators, IMO. From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Mar 22 13:25:16 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:25:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <180A3612-CD78-4A60-9042-17F8702184E9@chartermi.net> Everybody tell John "Happy birthday, ya old fart". Sent from my keyboard On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:29 PM, JohnD wrote: > I'm running a Spridgetech radiator from Rod Hahneman as well. He told me he > gets them from Ron Davis and from somebody in Indianapolis. The one he sold > me came from Winners Circle but he said it was a Ron Davis without the name > stenciled on the fins....therefore cheaper. However, without a tank on the > radiator, I had to add a custom-fabricated remote tank on the firewall, > which was an unexpected expense. > --JohnD > > *Driving in the past lane!* > JohnsfollyVintageRacing > >>> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ron Soave > To: Dean Hedin , "spridgets at autox.team.net" > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China > Message-ID: > <1363834320.22726.YahooMailNeo at web122105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > As Jay said, Ron Davis is the very best. I have a downflow Bugeye unit on > White Trash 1 and it is absolutely drop in and amazing quality. Speedwell > just uses Ron's, doesn't even take the labels off. But I have a "Made in > USA" > excellent quality one from Rod at Spridgetech for a lot less $$ ave on White > Trash 2. Talk to Rod, 810-229-8639. www.spridgetech.com > > Ron Soave > Roscoe, IL > "It only goes one way." > "Pay it forward." > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 16:11:16 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:11:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Will a motorcycle jack clear our spridget in the front? In-Reply-To: <6A9918AF-3AD2-4EDE-882F-A61B871E5933@me.com> References: <6A9918AF-3AD2-4EDE-882F-A61B871E5933@me.com> Message-ID: The investigation continues...wink. Lin On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Have not done it - yet. But have considered modifying one to lift the > entire car coming in from the passenger side to make the lift. Then > putting the car on body stands. > > Bob and Dolores > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > > So I was thinking about how much I hate using 2 small hydraulic jacks to > > get stands under my Spridget and being I'll most likely buy > > a motorcycle jack for my bus engine (also for the bike) has anyone ever > > used one to lift their Spridget from the front? It appears it will easily > > slide under but I don't know if they are low enough or if the front > > mechanism will clear enough without hitting the front valance. > > > > > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-capacity-atv-motorcycle-lift-2792.html > > > > I think this Horrible Freight brand will hold up our light LBC's as it is > > good for 1.5K lbs. > > > > Thanks Lin > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 16:31:36 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:31:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item ...see image. In-Reply-To: <011c01ce2642$516a6fb0$f43f4f10$@hky.com> References: <004401ce2577$7c7d85a0$757890e0$@hky.com> <006401ce2591$66d6ec90$3484c5b0$@hky.com> <011c01ce2642$516a6fb0$f43f4f10$@hky.com> Message-ID: Bud, My neighbor 2 blocks away has the same bus he has offered to give me a hand maybe I'll do that in the fall as the engine was installed by a VW guy before I bought it but he didn't want to do the body work. I believe the clutch is in very good shape and some other essentials. Lin On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > Lin,**** > > If you are into pain & suffering, I suppose you could replace the heater > boxes with the engine in place. Long-time air-cooled VW folks tend to > pull the engine as casually as normal people say excuse me. ;) **** > > Look at it this way: the exhaust flange nuts are probably pretty well > rusted to the manifold studs and if you break one of the studs, youre > going to have to pull the engine, anyway. Also, have the heads been > re-torqued since youve had the bus? Easier to do that with the engine > out. On my air-cooled engines, I used to (and will, again) remove the > engine every two or three years just re-torque the heads and to pull the > cooling tin off and make sure everything is clean under there. It only > takes a little bit of an oil mist (and if you think Spridgets leak oil) > to land on cooling fins of heads or cylinders or oil cooler and start > accumulating fine particles of dust, which continues to build-up until > youve got some significant blockage of cooling air. Not a good thing! > Also, with the engine out, EVERYTHING on the engine (except the oil drain > plug and sump plate) and engine compartment is easily accessible, so you > can come up with a nice list of might as wells. J Fun stuff!**** > > Youll want to make sure all of the rubber around the perimeter of the > engine compartment and on the rear cover plate is in good shape and that > there are no significant openings in the cover plates. This is critical to > keeping the engine temperatures down to a survivable (for the engine) > level. Also, hows the clutch looking? Bus clutches really do take a > beating, so you dont want to start the season with a worn clutch. Clutch > release shaft bushings OK? Easy to access with the engine out and not that > difficult to replace.**** > > Food for thought and, yes, youll want to have some help, when you pull > that engine out for the first few times.**** > > ** ** > > Looking longingly at the Midget, yesterday and remembering that it had > already been out for several runs on salt-free roads by this time, last > year L Beginning to think that the run to Import Carlisle may be its > first time out, this year. By Import Carlisle, last year, I had already > put a couple thousand miles on it!**** > > ** ** > > Bud**** > > *From:* Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:04 AM > > *To:* Bud Osbourne > *Cc:* Spridget list > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Looking for a Motor Porter, VW dealer item > ...see image.**** > > ** ** > > Cool my 67 bus engine is a Super Beetle engine 1600 DP, so do I have to > pull the engine in order to replace my heater boxes? **** > > ** ** > > Hoping to do some maintenance on Pinky in the warm dry garage once the bus > get all her glass. **** > > ** ** > > Frank would have had all this work done in one afternoon ; )**** > > Lin**** > > ** ** From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Mar 22 17:50:58 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:50:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cooling... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4545A9D7F3D545F78BAD5410D36A977D@blackbox2> So you're saying that if I want to run a thermostat then I need to open up the blocked bypass? How come the later heads do away with the bypass entirely? I'm thinking that, for now at least, I leave the bypass blocked and put a thermostat in (and block off the water pump bypass). Maybe later I 'll get a blanking sleeve and put that it. Sound reasonable? _____ From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:45 PM To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More on cooling... No Yes At least in my opinion In a message dated 21/03/2013 01:45:08 GMT Standard Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: Does the above mean that if my 12G295 cylinder head has the bypass braized closed that I can now run without a thermostat WITHOUT using the blanking sleeve? What if I do want to run a thermostat? Do I have to unplug the bypass? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Mar 23 07:21:35 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] More on cooling... Message-ID: <84f6.617d3779.3e7f065f@aol.com> The Metro heads have a different thermostat housing with different pipework. In a message dated 22/03/2013 23:51:08 GMT Standard Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: So you're saying that if I want to run a thermostat then I need to open up the blocked bypass? How come the later heads do away with the bypass entirely? I'm thinking that, for now at least, I leave the bypass blocked and put a thermostat in (and block off the water pump bypass). Maybe later I 'll get a blanking sleeve and put that it. Sound reasonable? From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Sat Mar 23 13:11:01 2013 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:11:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <1363952980.7753.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> <61B47A87A7614A778180F0E52F46975A@blackbox2> <1363952980.7753.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have been interested in an aluminum radiator since Leo S. ran a proposal past the group in Feb. 2010. I have a bugeye with a 1275. I retained the stock bugeye Downflow radiator. I also looked on eBay and found they listed a Superadiator at I think $299.99 plus shipping. They also list two from GPI Racing. Both are $273.24 plus $75.90 shipping. One says the manufacturer is Opel / Vauxhall ??? and cooling capacity is increased 30% to 40%. The other says the manufacturer is Austin ??? and the cooling capacity is increased. Both are 2 Row and the pictures look identical. Anybody have any knowledge about these? I am debating the choice of spending much more for the best recommended ones, or going a less expensive route. Also, what's the consensus of replacing the metal 4 blade fan with a plastic 6 blade one? Thanks, John On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:49 AM, lotuspilot at frontier.com < lotuspilot at frontier.com> wrote: > How do I tell if I have one of the bad Chinese aluminum radiators, by the > welds? Everything about the radiator looks over built even with great > welding. It was an exact fit. I think the brand was Champion Radiators if > that rings a bell with anyone. I really couldn't bother to clean or > repair an > older original radiator for the price and have run exceptionally for three > years. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > ________________________________ > From: Dean Hedin > > To: 'Dean Hedin' ; > spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: > [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China > > I just want to add to this... > The guy in New York was Wizard Cooling. That is a quality aluminum unit. > There > was the later model green Sprite with the Judson at the 50th that had > one > installed. > > It was very nicely welded together. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin > Sent: > Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:31 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: > [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China > > Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't > think the ones on ebay are from China. > For a while there was only the guy in > New York selling them for $500. > > Now I think there are a bunch of other > radiator guys in the US getting in on > the action. Free market at work and we > all win. > > Like this.. > > http://tinyurl.com/cujls6j > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jmfarley61 at gmail.com From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Mar 23 16:34:39 2013 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:34:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net> <2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2> <61B47A87A7614A778180F0E52F46975A@blackbox2> <1363952980.7753.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <994517210.20130323153439@pacifier.com> Hello John, The extra blades steal horsepower. ...At high speeds you don't need the extra .. and at low speeds you don't overheat... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "Happy Halloween!" Tom said gravely. (*2) From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Mar 23 19:59:36 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 21:59:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China In-Reply-To: <994517210.20130323153439@pacifier.com> References: <514A02CB.7060407@brant.net><2E3042A7700E44A192869A8D0A4158E9@blackbox2><61B47A87A7614A778180F0E52F46975A@blackbox2><1363952980.7753.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <994517210.20130323153439@pacifier.com> Message-ID: It's a matter of opinion. I'm liking the 6 blade fan. I could care less how much power it eats. I'm not racing in H-production. I want reliability. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:35 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminium Radiators - From China Hello John, The extra blades steal horsepower. ...At high speeds you don't need the extra .. and at low speeds you don't overheat... From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Mar 23 20:27:03 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:27:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A little head action... Message-ID: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2> Well, This morning I pulled off the old head in under 40 minutes. Spent the rest of the day pulling parts off the old head to put on the new one. Then re-installing. It was a blown gasket between 1 & 2 like I suspected. http://tinyurl.com/d8shsav One thing I've discovered is that all the manifold & thrmostat housing studs I bought from Moss were about 1/4" longer than I prefer. I turned them down on the lathe. All the other studs were easily removed from the old head using a pair of nuts backed to back. I didn't trust the aluminum valve spring retainers so I pulled the steel ones off the old head. I used the springs on the 12G295 head since they looked thicker. There was another hitch. The 12G295 head had locating sleeves for the intake manifold. Unfortunately, my manifold does not have the cutouts for locating sleeves. I thought all 1-1/4" manifolds would have the locating sleeve cutouts. Is this something that was added later? I did'nt bother with them. In any case. It all worked out. Car runs fine. I think I'll take her out for a spin tommorow and then re-torque the head, re-adjust the valves, and then change the oil. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Mar 23 20:39:26 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:39:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A little head action... In-Reply-To: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2> References: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1B5DF720FB824567A1E0B74A33650B99@blackbox2> Oh yeah, I left the bypass blocked but I kept the bypass hose in place. No water flows throught it. I installed a new 160 degree thermostat. Here is a blurry picture of the new head.. http://tinyurl.com/cp8gkuo From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Mar 23 20:50:22 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:50:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Cruise 2013 Message-ID: <5F7990376AD04B3D845F1C88C2B4A84C@blackbox2> Dr. Moses has posted the info for the upcomming "Sprite Cruise 2013" http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/ From miniac7 at aol.com Sat Mar 23 21:05:35 2013 From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:05:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Cruise 2013 In-Reply-To: <5F7990376AD04B3D845F1C88C2B4A84C@blackbox2> References: <5F7990376AD04B3D845F1C88C2B4A84C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <40658EE2-4AED-4169-9C7E-71FCB6FE9160@aol.com> I'm going, but probably Friday and Saturday only. Who else is going? Howard Collins '60 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > Dr. Moses has posted the info for the upcomming > "Sprite Cruise 2013" > > http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From frogeye at cox.net Sat Mar 23 21:42:38 2013 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:42:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spritefest 2013 Message-ID: <9D3ED67430AC4687B080D7238D0F0085@alanfPC> I will be at Carlisle vending on Thursday-Sunday I will be fairly busy with my 2 usual spots C-38 and C-39 but hope to catch some of the events if time allows I wonbt have one of my cars there but expect to get involved somewhere along the path If anyone expects or plans to stop by the Fairgrounds and roam the field please stop by and say hello and share a few stories. I will be bringing down my usual stash of highly prized Spridget bits If you are looking for anything in particular drop me a line off list Alan From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sun Mar 24 06:32:16 2013 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:32:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spritefest 2013 In-Reply-To: <9D3ED67430AC4687B080D7238D0F0085@alanfPC> References: <9D3ED67430AC4687B080D7238D0F0085@alanfPC> Message-ID: What are the Dates for Carlisle this year? Jim f -----Original Message----- From: alan Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 11:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Spritefest 2013 I will be at Carlisle vending on Thursday-Sunday I will be fairly busy with my 2 usual spots C-38 and C-39 but hope to catch some of the events if time allows I wonbt have one of my cars there but expect to get involved somewhere along the path If anyone expects or plans to stop by the Fairgrounds and roam the field please stop by and say hello and share a few stories. I will be bringing down my usual stash of highly prized Spridget bits If you are looking for anything in particular drop me a line off list Alan ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6185 - Release Date: 03/17/13 From abcoz at hky.com Sun Mar 24 07:24:45 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:24:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] if I bring a '76 Midget shell to Import Carlisle, will anyone be interested? Message-ID: <02bf01ce2892$f44c7230$dce55690$@hky.com> As part of what I call "ground clutter", in my pole barn, I have a '76 Midget shell, with some new sill panels installed by a previous owner. Originally, I acquired this car for my youngest son (who wanted to install a Mazda rotary engine, etc.), who has moved on to other interests. I was thinking of throwing it on my trailer and bringing it to Carlisle this year, to see if I can find a new home for it. I do have a title for it. I'd even bring the engine & transmission, if anyone is interested in the car. Please understand that this is a bare shell, although the original hood, doors and trunk lid will be with it. I will be very flexible on price, as the pole barn space is of more value to me, right now, than the Midget. Bud Osbourne From pvanwig at mac.com Sun Mar 24 09:00:24 2013 From: pvanwig at mac.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A little head action... In-Reply-To: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2> References: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2> Message-ID: <56215778-1FF8-42AE-84FB-DA056851B529@mac.com> One little trick I do the first time I need to open up the thermostat housing is throw away the studs and reassemble with bolts. So much easier to take it apart next time. And yes the locating sleeves are later additions. Paul Van Wig Big Bear/Long Beach, CA pvanwigatmacdotcom facebook.com/pvanwig 1959 Nash Metropolitan (the wife's fun ride) 1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD 1960 Bug Eye (awaiting restoration) 1980 CJ7 Lives @ 7440' 2003 Toyota 4Runner (the wife's Mountain car) 2012 Cadillac SRX 3.6 (the wife's work ride) 2012 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4 1958 Minor-wrecked 1960 Minor woody (For restoration, Soon to be for sale) 1965 Midget-parts 1981 Datsun 210 1500 w/ 5 speed On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: Well, This morning I pulled off the old head in under 40 minutes. Spent the rest of the day pulling parts off the old head to put on the new one. Then re-installing. It was a blown gasket between 1 & 2 like I suspected. http://tinyurl.com/d8shsav One thing I've discovered is that all the manifold & thrmostat housing studs I bought from Moss were about 1/4" longer than I prefer. I turned them down on the lathe. All the other studs were easily removed from the old head using a pair of nuts backed to back. I didn't trust the aluminum valve spring retainers so I pulled the steel ones off the old head. I used the springs on the 12G295 head since they looked thicker. There was another hitch. The 12G295 head had locating sleeves for the intake manifold. Unfortunately, my manifold does not have the cutouts for locating sleeves. I thought all 1-1/4" manifolds would have the locating sleeve cutouts. Is this something that was added later? I did'nt bother with them. In any case. It all worked out. Car runs fine. I think I'll take her out for a spin tommorow and then re-torque the head, re-adjust the valves, and then change the oil. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at mac.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 24 11:49:11 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:49:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A little head action... In-Reply-To: <56215778-1FF8-42AE-84FB-DA056851B529@mac.com> References: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2> <56215778-1FF8-42AE-84FB-DA056851B529@mac.com> Message-ID: <7AF1F970363D4AF8BD971B24A8D0AD32@blackbox2> That's funny. I bought the studs for the thermostat housing because I wanted to get back to the original configuration (I used to have the bolts). It will be a 'bear' getting that off next time. Another tip. Clean up and paint the thermostat hosing..inside and out. It's aluminium and tends to want to corrode. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Van Wig Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:00 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A little head action... One little trick I do the first time I need to open up the thermostat housing is throw away the studs and reassemble with bolts. So much easier to take it apart next time. And yes the locating sleeves are later additions. Paul Van Wig Big Bear/Long Beach, CA pvanwigatmacdotcom facebook.com/pvanwig From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Mar 24 14:05:48 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A little head action... Message-ID: <14a76.3758be71.3e80b69c@aol.com> Until you strip the threads in the head or the bolts seize in the head? I've never understood why anyone does that when you can buy an ARP stainless stud kit. Weslake-monza 1330 In a message dated 24/03/2013 15:01:20 GMT Standard Time, pvanwig at mac.com writes: throw away the studs and reassemble with bolts. So much easier to take it apart next time. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 25 07:00:10 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:00:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A little head action... In-Reply-To: <7AF1F970363D4AF8BD971B24A8D0AD32@blackbox2> References: <32FE9879C2FA4E3CBDBA9EBAA05CC44D@blackbox2>, <56215778-1FF8-42AE-84FB-DA056851B529@mac.com>, <7AF1F970363D4AF8BD971B24A8D0AD32@blackbox2> Message-ID: Personally, I wouldn't paint the inside of the housing. I wouldn't trust the paint to not flake off, circulate around the cooling system and possibly clog something up. I do paint the base of it tho and use a little blue goop between the housing and gasket. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > From: dlh2001 at comcast.net > To: pvanwig at mac.com > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:49:11 -0400 > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A little head action... > > That's funny. I bought the studs for the thermostat housing because I > wanted to get back > to the original configuration (I used to have the bolts). It will be a > 'bear' getting that off next time. > > Another tip. Clean up and paint the thermostat hosing..inside and out. > It's aluminium and tends to want to corrode. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Van Wig > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:00 AM > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A little head action... > > One little trick I do the first time I need to open up the thermostat > housing is throw away the studs and reassemble with bolts. So much easier > to take it apart next time. > And yes the locating sleeves are later additions. > > > > Paul Van Wig > Big Bear/Long Beach, CA > pvanwigatmacdotcom > facebook.com/pvanwig > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com From lsr_man at yahoo.com Mon Mar 25 07:40:56 2013 From: lsr_man at yahoo.com (Dick J) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 06:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] lugnuts Message-ID: <1364218856.8901.YahooMailClassic@web162302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Does anybody know where to find open end lug nuts for mag wheels? Dick J From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Mar 25 08:00:03 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:00:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] lugnuts In-Reply-To: <1364218856.8901.YahooMailClassic@web162302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1364218856.8901.YahooMailClassic@web162302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <675F839F969E4F73A6C25E1212FBFEFF@spider> http://tinyurl.com/c5hjl67 ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dick J Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:41 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] lugnuts Does anybody know where to find open end lug nuts for mag wheels? Dick J ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Mar 25 09:56:54 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:56:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] lugnuts In-Reply-To: <1364218856.8901.YahooMailClassic@web162302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1364218856.8901.YahooMailClassic@web162302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3AC0DA99-1F4E-45F9-A46A-6AD4A28D0CAF@chartermi.net> These are specifically for Spridget mags..... http://tinyurl.com/3uzdkzb Sent from my keyboard On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dick J wrote: > Does anybody know where to find open end lug nuts for mag wheels? > > Dick J > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Mar 25 14:00:35 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] lugnuts In-Reply-To: <3AC0DA99-1F4E-45F9-A46A-6AD4A28D0CAF@chartermi.net> References: <1364218856.8901.YahooMailClassic@web162302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <3AC0DA99-1F4E-45F9-A46A-6AD4A28D0CAF@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Better link....... http://tinyurl.com/cwzvba5 Sent from my keyboard On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: > These are specifically for Spridget mags..... > > http://tinyurl.com/3uzdkzb > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dick J wrote: > >> Does anybody know where to find open end lug nuts for mag wheels? >> >> Dick J >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Mar 25 18:46:29 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 20:46:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... Message-ID: <6E2513D05C90416A8C0072427AC5F8FC@blackbox2> As you recall, fronm the "Special Tunning for Sprites and Midgets".. "Assuming the thermostat is working correctly, overheating can result if it is removed without fitting a blanking sleeve 11G 176 in it's place. Alternatively, the bypass connection between the cylinder head and water pump may be sealed on 'A' series engines." I've thought it over. The above statement is true. If you block the bypass then you don't need the blanking sleeve (and no thermostat). The only purpose of the blanking sleeve is to obstruct the flow to the bypass. Here's my justifiction. In the normal case, in a warmed up engine, the water pump is pushing water into the block up through the head through the OPENED thermostat and then the water expells out the thermostat housing into the top of the radiator. Water from the bottom of the radiator feeds the water pump But when the engine is cold the thermostat is closed, so no water enters the top of the radiator. In this case the water comes from the head via the bypass. It a little "sub loop" until the head warms up enough to open the thermostat. The important thing is this. If you block the bypass then you must remove the thermostat! Which means I gotta go pull my thermostat out! From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Mar 25 18:50:44 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <6E2513D05C90416A8C0072427AC5F8FC@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1364259044.33938.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> My bypass is blocked and I have a thermostat. Never runs over 190 to 200 degrees in Southern California. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... To: "'Spridgets'" Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 12:46 AM As you recall, fronm the "Special Tunning for Sprites and Midgets".. "Assuming the thermostat is working correctly, overheating can result if it is removed without fitting a blanking sleeve 11G 176 in it's place. Alternatively, the bypass connection between the cylinder head and water pump may be sealed on 'A' series engines." I've thought it over. The above statement is true. If you block the bypass then you don't need the blanking sleeve (and no thermostat). The only purpose of the blanking sleeve is to obstruct the flow to the bypass. Here's my justifiction. In the normal case, in a warmed up engine, the water pump is pushing water into the block up through the head through the OPENED thermostat and then the water expells out the thermostat housing into the top of the radiator. Water from the bottom of the radiator feeds the water pump But when the engine is cold the thermostat is closed, so no water enters the top of the radiator. In this case the water comes from the head via the bypass. It a little "sub loop" until the head warms up enough to open the thermostat. The important thing is this. If you block the bypass then you must remove the thermostat! Which means I gotta go pull my thermostat out! ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Mar 25 19:29:02 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:29:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <1364259044.33938.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <6E2513D05C90416A8C0072427AC5F8FC@blackbox2> <1364259044.33938.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> Let me tell you why I think that is bad. When the engine is cold, the thermostat is closed and because the bypass is blocked no water can circulate through the head AT ALL. So what could happen is localized heating could occur in an area of the head/block that is far away from the thermostat. Eventually the front of your head will get warm and open the thermostat, but it may take a while. Basicaly you need some flow to let the thermostat "know" things are warming up. The benefit of running with the bypass blocked is that none of the hot head water gets mixed with the normal flow, so you get better cooling. The downside is longer warmup time and running too cool in colder temps. But since you have a blocked bypass like I now have, then you should not run with the thermostat (or open the bypass) _____ From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:51 PM To: 'Spridgets'; Dean Hedin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... My bypass is blocked and I have a thermostat. Never runs over 190 to 200 degrees in Southern California. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Mar 25 19:54:31 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dean, You may be right. I don't think it takes the thermostat very long to open up and I have not had any problems so far. I have the thermostat bulb in the head right by the thermostat and it seems to read the warm up pretty fast. Mike MacLean --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... To: "'Michael MacLean'" , "'Spridgets'" Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 1:29 AM Let me tell you why I think that is bad. When the engine is cold, the thermostat is closed and because the bypass is blocked no water can circulate through the head AT ALL. So what could happen is localized heating could occur in an area of the head/block that is far away from the thermostat. Eventually the front of your head will get warm and open the thermostat, but it may take a while. Basicaly you need some flow to let the thermostat "know" things are warming up. The benefit of running with the bypass blocked is that none of the hot head water gets mixed with the normal flow, so you get better cooling. The downside is longer warmup time and running too cool in colder temps. But since you have a blocked bypass like I now have, then you should not run with the thermostat (or open the bypass) From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:51 PM To: 'Spridgets'; Dean Hedin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... My bypass is blocked and I have a thermostat. Never runs over 190 to 200 degrees in Southern California. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Mar 25 20:15:26 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> I was just googling thermostats. Some modern ones are two stage affairs so that when they open they have another valve that closes the bypass. A solution that might work for you and I. Drill a small bypass hole (maybe around 3/16") in the thermostat itself. That will allow a small amount of flow to bleed past to let the thermostat know things are warming up. I don't know, The more I think about it, it might just be best to run without the thermostat. I'm curious anyway, I'd like to see how cool it runs with the bypass blocked on a hot 105F day. If I'm driving it on a cool day I'll just get on it harder to make it warm up. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Mar 25 20:30:58 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1364265058.69359.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Well, let me know what happens. You have my curiosity up. The thermostats with the blocking sleeve are quite expensive and you are limited in the temp range. I did run with a blanking sleeve at one time, but I did not block off the bypass. I don't remember having good results with that, but I did not know much about the cooling system back then. Besides, it was something I tried on the original 948 I had in the Bugeye at the time because it was overheating. The 1275 I have in there now runs at a perfect temp all the time. Gerard built the short block for me and did an exceptional job. His work is impeccable. Mike MacLean --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... To: "'Michael MacLean'" , "'Spridgets'" Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 2:15 AM I was just googling thermostats. Some modern ones are two stage affairs so that when they open they have another valve that closes the bypass. A solution that might work for you and I. Drill a small bypass hole (maybe around 3/16") in the thermostat itself. That will allow a small amount of flow to bleed past to let the thermostat know things are warming up. I don't know, The more I think about it, it might just be best to run without the thermostat. I'm curious anyway, I'd like to see how cool it runs with the bypass blocked on a hot 105F day. If I'm driving it on a cool day I'll just get on it harder to make it warm up. From dwramsey at att.net Tue Mar 26 00:35:30 2013 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yea, great idea don't use a thermostat, all they really do is bring the engine temp up to optimum level faster. Who needs that? The reason there isn't a bypass on the later cars was because it really didn't do all that much and wasn't needed. Use it or don't makes no difference. You do know where to get the restrictor plate to replace your thermostat? Really I just think your pulling my chain, but good luck whatever you decide to do. Crash I don't know, The more I think about it, it might just be best to run without the thermostat. I'm curious anyway, I'd like to see how cool it runs with the bypass blocked on a hot 105F day. If I'm driving it on a cool day I'll just get on it harder to make it warm up. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Mar 26 17:57:20 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:57:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's not called a "restrictor plate". It's called a "blanking sleeve". Moss sells them. Clearly you are not following. The BMC Special Tuning Guide states... "Assuming the thermostat is working correctly, overheating can result if it is removed without fitting a blanking sleeve 11G 176 in it's place. Alternatively, the bypass connection between the cylinder head and water pump may be sealed on 'A' series engines." It's not that I want to run without a thermostat. My situation is that the previous owner on the 1100 head that I just installed blocked the bypass. At this point I'd have to remove the head to unblock it and I'm not up to doing that. Now, I don't think it is safe to run a thermostat if the bypass is blocked. I think I provided a good reason why it's bad to do this. I just looked at Moss's catalog and it looks like the 1275 cars have the bypass too. The 1500 design is a different animal (but I'll bet there is still a bypass mechanism) And no, I'm not trying to pull anybody's chain. Now, you explain to me why the bypass "did'nt do all that much and was'nt needed" or else I will think you are pulling everyone's chain. You can start by drawing yourself a little schematic of how the water flows through the A series cooling system. With any luck it should then become clear to you why the bypass is there. With a little more luck it might become clear to you that just about any car with a thermostat must have (and does have) a bypass mechanism. ________________________________ From: dwramsey at att.net [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:36 AM To: Dean Hedin Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... Yea, great idea don't use a thermostat, all they really do is bring the engine temp up to optimum level faster. Who needs that? The reason there isn't a bypass on the later cars was because it really didn't do all that much and wasn't needed. Use it or don't makes no difference. You do know where to get the restrictor plate to replace your thermostat? Really I just think your pulling my chain, but good luck whatever you decide to do. Crash From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Mar 26 18:54:07 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:54:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Drill a 1/4" hole on the edge of your thermostat and you'll have a bypass and a thermostat. Sent from my keyboard On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:57 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > It's not called a "restrictor plate". It's called a "blanking sleeve". Moss > sells them. > > Clearly you are not following. > > The BMC Special Tuning Guide states... > "Assuming the thermostat is working correctly, overheating can result if it > is removed without fitting a blanking sleeve 11G 176 in it's place. > Alternatively, the bypass connection between the cylinder head and water > pump may be sealed on 'A' series engines." > > It's not that I want to run without a thermostat. > My situation is that the previous owner on the 1100 head that I just > installed blocked the bypass. > At this point I'd have to remove the head to unblock it and I'm not up to > doing that. > > Now, I don't think it is safe to run a thermostat if the bypass is blocked. > > I think I provided a good reason why it's bad to do this. > > I just looked at Moss's catalog and it looks like the 1275 cars have the > bypass too. > The 1500 design is a different animal (but I'll bet there is still a bypass > mechanism) > > And no, I'm not trying to pull anybody's chain. > > Now, you explain to me why the bypass "did'nt do all that much and was'nt > needed" or else I will think you are pulling everyone's chain. > You can start by drawing yourself a little schematic of how the water flows > through the A series cooling system. > With any luck it should then become clear to you why the bypass is there. > With a little more luck it might become clear to you that just about any car > with a thermostat must have (and does have) a bypass mechanism. > ________________________________ > > From: dwramsey at att.net [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:36 AM > To: Dean Hedin > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... > > > Yea, great idea don't use a thermostat, all they really do is bring the > engine temp up to optimum level faster. Who needs that? The reason there > isn't a bypass on the later cars was because it really didn't do all that > much and wasn't needed. Use it or don't makes no difference. You do know > where to get the restrictor plate to replace your thermostat? Really I just > think your pulling my chain, but good luck whatever you decide to do. > Crash > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Mar 26 19:01:18 2013 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1364346078.51983.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> And you won't surge the water pump, which is the primary reason for the bypass. Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: Rick Fisk >To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" >Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... > >Drill a 1/4" hole on the edge of your thermostat and you'll have a bypass and >a thermostat. > > >Sent from my keyboard > >On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:57 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > >> It's not called a "restrictor plate". It's called a "blanking sleeve". >Moss >> sells them. >> >> Clearly you are not following. >> >> The BMC Special Tuning Guide states... >> "Assuming the thermostat is working correctly, overheating can result if it >> is removed without fitting a blanking sleeve 11G 176 in it's place. >> Alternatively, the bypass connection between the cylinder head and water >> pump may be sealed on 'A' series engines." >> >> It's not that I want to run without a thermostat. >> My situation is that the previous owner on the 1100 head that I just >> installed blocked the bypass. >> At this point I'd have to remove the head to unblock it and I'm not up to >> doing that. >> >> Now, I don't think it is safe to run a thermostat if the bypass is blocked. >> >> I think I provided a good reason why it's bad to do this. >> >> I just looked at Moss's catalog and it looks like the 1275 cars have the >> bypass too. >> The 1500 design is a different animal (but I'll bet there is still a bypass >> mechanism) >> >> And no, I'm not trying to pull anybody's chain. >> >> Now, you explain to me why the bypass "did'nt do all that much and was'nt >> needed" or else I will think you are pulling everyone's chain. >> You can start by drawing yourself a little schematic of how the water flows >> through the A series cooling system. >> With any luck it should then become clear to you why the bypass is there. >> With a little more luck it might become clear to you that just about any >car >> with a thermostat must have (and does have) a bypass mechanism. >> ________________________________ >> >> From: dwramsey at att.net [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:36 AM >> To: Dean Hedin >> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... >> >> >> Yea, great idea don't use a thermostat, all they really do is bring the >> engine temp up to optimum level faster. Who needs that? The reason there >> isn't a bypass on the later cars was because it really didn't do all that >> much and wasn't needed. Use it or don't makes no difference. You do know >> where to get the restrictor plate to replace your thermostat? Really I >just >> think your pulling my chain, but good luck whatever you decide to do. >> Crash >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From dwramsey at att.net Tue Mar 26 19:32:44 2013 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Moss sells them? I bet they do, they also sell the acordian bypass hose. Call it what you want. A restrictor plate or blanking sleeve is just a thermostat with the works cut out and the plate used by itself. The reason it overheats without one is because of the increase of flow, the coolant doesn't stay in the radiator long enough to cool. 90% of all engine ware is at start up on a cold engine. No thermostat, more ware. You might have a point that if the thermostat fails closed and if you look at one they are designed to fail open. You car would over heat a little faster without the bypass but not by much. My point is no bypass and a thermostat will work fine. No thermostat equals more engine ware Crash From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Mar 26 20:17:12 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You don't know what you are talking about. All the sleeve does is block the bypass port. The bottom hole is BIG. Bigger than an opened thermostat. It is not designed to restrict flow. That's some sort of fantasy in your mind. Here, read this or look at the pictures or something... http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/cooling/cool_103b.htm Your point about the thermostat working properly with the bypass blocked is equally wrong. With the bypass blocked and with the thermostat closed (like when the engine first starts up) there will be no flow around the thermostat or through the block and the head. As the back of the block/head warms up the thermostat will not be made aware, since there is no flow. Trust me the back of the block heats up first, and cast iron and non flowing water are poor conductors of heat. Remember the thermostat is at the front of the engine, cool water from the top of radiator will slosh against it. It won't know that the back of the block is heating up unless the water is flowing through the bypass. _______________________________ From: dwramsey at att.net [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:33 PM To: Dean Hedin Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... Moss sells them? I bet they do, they also sell the acordian bypass hose. Call it what you want. A restrictor plate or blanking sleeve is just a thermostat with the works cut out and the plate used by itself. The reason it overheats without one is because of the increase of flow, the coolant doesn't stay in the radiator long enough to cool. 90% of all engine ware is at start up on a cold engine. No thermostat, more ware. You might have a point that if the thermostat fails closed and if you look at one they are designed to fail open. You car would over heat a little faster without the bypass but not by much. My point is no bypass and a thermostat will work fine. No thermostat equals more engine ware Crash From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Tue Mar 26 21:09:03 2013 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:09:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201303270309.r2R39GPQ027347@mail.usimperio.com> Instead of the blanking sleeve you could make a disc out of a piece/disc of aluminium the same outside diameter of the thermostat and drill a 5/8" hole in the center, just make sure the disc is thick enough to fit snug. Remove thermostat and insert the disc. We do this in all the race engines we rebuild. Some of them we have to fiddle with the center hole size but we use the 5/8" as a starting point. You may have to change the size for winter and summer driving. Most of the heads have the bypass plugged. Dave From dwramsey at att.net Wed Mar 27 12:42:48 2013 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1364409768.19363.YahooMailRC@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Your right I'm to stupid to be on this list. Where did I get all these dumb ideas back in the day. Crash You don't know what you are talking about. Your point about the thermostat working properly with the bypass blocked is equally wrong. From mark at bradakis.com Wed Mar 27 13:45:10 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:45:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Healeys at the Beach with Healey Celebrities - April 4 -7 In-Reply-To: <5971754.1364412146685.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5971754.1364412146685.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <51534C46.2050302@bradakis.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Healeys at the Beach with Healey Celebrities - April 4 -7 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:22:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: John H Reply-To: John H To: mark at bradakis.com Healeys at the Beach. Check out this line up of Healey Celebrities. This event has become international! Gerry Coker - Designer of the Healey 100 and Bugeye Gus Ehrman - A Big Healey Sebring Driver in 1958 Jack Hoogland - the Secretary of the Healey Museum in the Netherlands! Itbs not too late to register for a Healey trip to the beach in North Florida! Register and Book your Room NOW. The rooms are almost gone! The host hotel, The Amelia Hotel at the Beach is right across the street from the Atlantic Ocean. Amelia is just north of Jacksonville and easy to get to..just off of I-95. Everyone is invited to attend SE Classic XXVII on April 4-7, hosted by the St. Johns Chapter of the AHCA. Expect to see up to 80 Healeys at one place at the car show in downtown Fernandina...the car show site features a history of pirates, great restaurants/cafes and shopping. Expect a Poker Rally, Funkhana, Tech Session and Car Show. Oh yes, there will be time for relaxing and catching up with Healey friends ... old and new. Please see the link for more information and Registration Form. http://sjahc.com/2013/Southeastern/SE%20Classic%202013%20main.htm. 1 week to go. Get your registrations in now or register onsite Thursday, April 4, 2013. Join us for a great time in Amelia Island. John Homonek 1959 BN7 1974 Jensen-Healey John Homonek bn7 at mindspring.com From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 18:53:51 2013 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (Jeff Kelly) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:53:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Testing Message-ID: Testing to see if my post will get to the website. Jeff Kelly From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 18:59:19 2013 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:59:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It did ;) Kevin V. Too many Midgets On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: > Testing to see if my post will get to the website. > > Jeff Kelly From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 19:24:29 2013 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (Jeff Kelly) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:24:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks , Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Valentine Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:59 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Testing It did ;) Kevin V. Too many Midgets On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: > Testing to see if my post will get to the website. > > Jeff Kelly ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye at gmail.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Mar 27 19:55:26 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:55:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <1364409768.19363.YahooMailRC@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364409768.19363.YahooMailRC@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Don't take it that way. You got it from other people who were wrong. I just looked through Vizard's "How to modify your Mini" and his discussion about the blanking sleeve is also incorrect. Vizard states that if you install the blanking sleeve then you'll want to block off the bypass. That's wrong. The blanking sleeve WILL block off the bypass. If you read Vizard's text on this it will be clear that it is second hand info he is relaying. e.g. "I have it on good authority..." In addition, he doesn't describe the flow of water around the thermostat and why the bypass is there in the first place. I am absolutely certain that if you have the bypass blocked off, then you MUST NOT install a thermostat. You risk overheating areas of the engine furthermost from the thermostat. Just draw yourself a diagram of how the water flows with the thermostat closed off and it all becomes clear. It's unsettling that Vizard was wrong about this...but he was so right on everything else that I can easily forgive him. ________________________________ From: dwramsey at att.net [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:43 PM To: Dean Hedin Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... Your right I'm to stupid to be on this list. Where did I get all these dumb ideas back in the day. Crash You don't know what you are talking about. Your point about the thermostat working properly with the bypass blocked is equally wrong. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 27 23:01:10 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:01:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Blanking sleeve and blocked bypass again... In-Reply-To: <1364409768.19363.YahooMailRC@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <7F36E710BA1F493CB53D398FD94BC5B9@blackbox2> <1364262871.34537.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47998302B7864F3FA27E9FF3164480E9@blackbox2> <1364279730.84051.YahooMailRC@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364347964.21123.YahooMailRC@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364409768.19363.YahooMailRC@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5153CE96.9090609@justbrits.com> << On 3/27/2013 1:42 PM, dwramsey at att.net wrote: Your right I'm to stupid to be on this list. >> Well, DUH ? ! ? << Where did I get all these dumb ideas back in the day. Crash >> A little sailboat told you ??? Did I get that correct, Crash ? ? ? ? Ed From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Mar 28 08:03:55 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:03:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hagerty's 10 Best Message-ID: <51544DCB.5030607@wi.net> Some of you may have seen this already. We don't know anyone who would do such things.....do we? ;-) http://www.hagerty.com/classic-car-articles-resources/Features/News/All-Articles/2013/03/25/April-Fools?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%2003-27-2013 OR use the tiny version: *http://tinyurl.com/bpqp3p4 *Dave W.* * From mark at bradakis.com Thu Mar 28 13:30:03 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:30:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks again Message-ID: <51549A3B.6090601@bradakis.com> Over the course of the afternoon I hope to get caught up sending quick thank you notes to all those who donated recently. The Weber 42 is in town, I need to go sign for it at the post office. But thanks to all those who helped out, you are certainly off the hook for the spring fund drive coming up. If you want to avoid the rush before the official fund drive, http://www.team.net/donate.html is open 24/7 :-) Thanks again to those who help make Team.Net such a nice, unique little slice of the internet. mjb. From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Thu Mar 28 14:27:18 2013 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiator & Silicone Hoses Message-ID: After much checking, I decided to go with an aluminum radiator manufactured by Wizard Cooling in West Falls, NY to replace my stock downflow in my 1275 bugeye. From what I can see, their quality is *much* better than the Chinese variants. Their number is 716-655-6760. I have been talking with Scott and he has been most helpful. Their original design did not include the shrouds. He is adding them to mine at no additional cost. In the end, I will be paying $499 - which is somewhat more that the various ones on eBay, which seem to be the same even though they have different names, but less than the one produced by Ron Davis. Does anybody know of a producer Silcone hoses for the downflow type? Thanks, John From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Mar 29 04:34:17 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiator & Silicone Hoses Message-ID: <5c71e.40d83ac3.3e86c829@aol.com> ME! Orange is in stock anything else has to be made: Blue or Black with or without Samco branding, other colours are a maybe (purple, green). Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 28/03/2013 20:27:25 GMT Standard Time, jmfarley61 at gmail.com writes: Does anybody know of a producer Silcone hoses for the downflow type? Thanks, John From swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 29 12:52:33 2013 From: swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk (G & J Swann-Price) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:52:33 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Silicone Hoses and Stuff In-Reply-To: <5c71e.40d83ac3.3e86c829@aol.com> References: <5c71e.40d83ac3.3e86c829@aol.com> Message-ID: <268DF36B4E824019856B3E8CBE9E22F7@TINY2> Do you do track-rod end ball joint boots as well? Geri -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: 29 March 2013 10:34 To: jmfarley61 at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiator & Silicone Hoses ME! Orange is in stock anything else has to be made: Blue or Black with or without Samco branding, other colours are a maybe (purple, green). Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 28/03/2013 20:27:25 GMT Standard Time, jmfarley61 at gmail.com writes: Does anybody know of a producer Silcone hoses for the downflow type? Thanks, John ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Mar 29 16:10:37 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Silicone Hoses and Stuff Message-ID: No, nor do I know of anyone who does. In a message dated 29/03/2013 18:53:33 GMT Standard Time, swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk writes: Do you do track-rod end ball joint boots as well? Geri From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 29 16:43:30 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:43:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] It arrived Message-ID: <51561912.7070406@bradakis.com> http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=149 This episode regarding the Weber 42 DCOE was mainly a Spridget list thing, but there was some overlap with the MG list as well. Thanks again. mjb.